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budaatum:

Primesky my friend, I see buda is not the only one who twists the Bible, according to you. Seems you are the only one who has the untwisted version.

I'm worried about you.

At the end of the day, the truth is, Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life!. If any man have Him, he has life, otherwise no life.

Theism is in every man, atheism is self inflicted. What a confusion!.

The inability of those who claim atheism to abstain from anything God, is in itself a proof that God truly exist, because He's got His finger prints in every man. Otherwise, why can't a non believer live without talking about Him? . Atheists are on self punishment, their souls yearns for God but pride and human weakness steps in the way.

May the light of God shine in every atheist heart.

budaatum:

Primesky why do you like making imaginary things up in your head? Can you possibly find understanding by so doing?

You tell me to worry about my death, as if each day has not enough trouble of its own! And yet you claim it is "Christ" , the Christ who said I should not worry about life even!

Just goes to show how much of his kingdom and his righteousness, you yourself still need to seek.

_{Matthew 6}

Twisting and misquoting scriptures can not save anybody bro.

À person with Jesus Christ need not worry about anything at all, because God, His Father, will take care of Him. But the man who is not born again, cannot claim the same promises!. Who was Jesus addressing in the said statement you're latching onto?. Of cause children of God!. Do you now believe in God, it are you now His born again son?.

Only the children of God can lay claim to that promise my dear, which is why you need to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal saviour.

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Sons are entitled to their Father's promises, unfortunately, non sons cannot lay claim to it. But the good news is everyone yet alive today can become a son of God, if only they can repent, confess and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and personal saviour.

But anybody without this cover is in serious danger and hopelessness. I invite you to take the olive branch. Jesus loves you.

Restroom:


Hi, I am glad you went round to get those bible verses to yourself

Well, I want you to please read Mattew 5:verse 3, 5

Also read

Mattew 6:9, 10

Read Revelations 14:1-4.

How do you understand all the scriptures you quoted?

Do you know there are two categories of sheep who will be rewarded differently?

The first with immortal life in heaven
The second with everlasting life on earth?

Do you know that?

Please respond !

Mathew 5:3 The meek inheriting the earth does not mean they will live on earth forever!. Moses was the meekest of men in his days, what happened to him, and where will he spend eternity, on earth or in heaven?, since he is a meek sheep, as you said?.

Mathew 6:9 The kingdom of God is within you, the kingdom of heaven is a particular place, still a part of the kingdom of God, where God's throne is situated. This is where there are many mansions, and it's where Jesus Christ is preparing for his faithful followers no matter where they come from. This current earth will be destroyed and a new one will be formed. You people should please stop making God look powerless and poor. He created the earth all by himself, now He has said, look, after all these nonsense the devil and wicked men are doing has been brought to an end, and my purpose is accomplished, I will wipe away this earth and all its memories, I will bring about a new heaven and a new earth. Why does that sound hard for God to do in watch tower's eyes?

Please bro when you read the bible, don't pick a verse and just interpret it on its own basis, scripture must be interpreted with scripture that's what the bible said.
Regarding the 144 thousand you people claim are the only ones who will go to heaven, the bible you quoted also gave you the accurate fact and truth if only you will accept it.

Please Read Revelation 7:4-17 very meditatively.

You will see that the 144 thousand people were sealed from the 12 tribes of Israel alone!. These do not include people of other nations and tongues and tribes. This was done in fulfilment of a promise of God to the Jewish nation that a remnant will be saved for the fact that they were used by God to teach and reach out to all other nations and for the covenant He had with them. Don't forget that the rejection of the Jews. brought about the acceptance of the gentiles. Look at the promise made in the Old Testament in Isaiah, repeated by Paul in the New Testament, and fulfilled in Revelation chapter 7. These are the 144 thousand!.

Isaiah 10:22 For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.

Romans 9:27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:

Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Now look very carefully, you will see that while John could number the 144 thousand before the throne of God, he could not number the others, which clearly tells you of another set of redeemed souls from all over the world, who are also in heaven standing where the 144 thousand where standing. Do you see that Watch tower is lying and deceiving you people?.

Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

How could John not number these people after numbering 144 thousand?, does that not tell you they are a different set of redeemed souls?, and how come they are standing before the throne of God?. Is the throne of God on earth or in heaven?. How did these uncountable people get there?.

budaatum:

Actually, no, I do not expect you to paint the truth for buda.


I see you know. Primesky the knoa.


Come to me from knoa? You must be kidding! But in case you're not, no thank you. I pick up the Book and read it myself if you don't mind.


Knoa knees the ground that day, the Truth!

You don't know any Truth, knoa, so it's rather impossible for you to have the ability to have said, say or be saying, the Truth, yet.

Oh OK, so you want me to bend the message to tickle your fancy right?. Can't you see that your soul is yearning for the Lord, yet you're suffering it daily by pridefully rejecting the hope and life it needs, how could you be so wicked to yourself?.

I know not everything of my own accord, but by the spirit of truth, and I know the truth, which is Christ, and I will speak the truth, no amount of sentiment, verbal assault will stop me, and you can not read and understand the bible without the Holy Spirit of God, for the content of that book are spiritually discerned. Please to unlock the secrets to the treasures of God's word, you need Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

You could literally not keep away from anything about God whom you say you don't believe, yet you can't say away, and neither can you, because His finger prints are all over you.

But hear this, He Jesus Christ is 'the way, not 'a'way, or 'one of' the way, but He is 'the way, the truth and the life's, no man comment to God the father but by Him, every other way is fake and unacceptable to God!. You can't twist this.

1 John 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

If you have Jesus Christ, you have life, but if you have not Jesus Christ, you don't have life. There are no go between here. You're either in or out, dead or alive. The man without Christ is absolutely hopeless, except he/sh repents, and that must be done before he/she dies physically, after which there is no other way.

Repent and be saved, Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. There is no other way!.

Peacefullove:


The time you wasted typing the above could have been better spent answering those questions primesky couldn't answer.

And are you aware of the various lies Primesky has awarded on this thread .

Let me show you two.

1) the people who died in Noah's day went to hell

2) Jesus went to heaven the day he died

Is that the person you Are ing ?


Bro, kindly help explain why those who died in the sea do not go to hell ? Rev 20 vs 13

It shocks me the way you twist things all in a bid to defend a lie. The question two you talked about, who did I say went to heaven, when Jesus committed His spirit into God's hands at the cross, where went His spirit, to the grave?. Is the grave God's hands?. If Jesus committed His spirit into God's hands, how come He went down into the prison to preach and at the same time His body was in the tomb, does that alone not teach something about man having a trinity?. You people have absolutely no excuse, because the scripture is very clear about this truth. Despite the clear explanation, you still chose to stick with falsehood, why do you do this to yourself?.

Your problem as I have always said, is in the fact that you don't believe in man having an active, conscious spirit, soul and body.

God bless you MrPRevailer, I feel so terribly sad to see that these our brothers are being deceived like this. I know that only God by His infinite mercy can save them. This people do not know that they are directly opposing Jesus Christ in every way. Please help me ask Peacefullove and OneJ to answer the questions below.

1. When Jesus came in 1914 according to watch tower, where did He enter, and where is He now?. What actually did the Bible say about the time and coming of Jesus Christ?.

2. Jesus Christ commanded that we observe the holy communion in remembrance of Him, so why do guys make a mockery of it?, are you not then mocking Jesus Christ who gave the command?.

3. How did Jesus Christ rise from the dead, bodily or spiritually?.

4. Is spirit a being or a mere force?. If spirits are mere forces or active force, can mere force talk, teach and reason with people?.

Let me stop here. Please do well to answer the above questions.

tomakint:


Our brother just needs to be freed from dogma of trinity he is entangled in.....

If you do not believe in the Trinity, you do not believe in God. Denial of the trinity is an agenda of Satan to sideline Jesus Christ, and if he succeeds in making you accept that, your connection to God is broken. Because without Jesus Christ, you cannnot get to God.

Now stop swallowing the lies of watch tower. Jesus Christ was never created, watch tower is the one twisting and lieing about the person of Jesus Christ.

To show you the falsehood of that organization, I will like you tomakint, to answer these questions that Peaceful love and oneJ have refused to answer.

1. When Jesus came in 1914 according to watch tower, where did He enter, and where is He now. What actually did the Bible say about the time and coming of Jesus Christ?.

2. Jesus Christ commanded that we observe the holy communion, so why do you guys make a mockery of it?, are you not then mocking Jesus Christ who gave the command?.

3. How did Jesus Christ rise from the dead, bodily or spiritually?.

4. Is spirit a being or a mere force?. If yes, can mere force talk, teach and reason with people?.

Let me stop here. Please do well to answer the above questions. Thank you.

Peacefullove:


Church man, you have been so programmed to shut the door of reasoning.

You lied Jesus ascend to heaven the day he died.

He said he didn't Mr Primesky . John 20 vs 17 said it all .

Lie Lie primesky


Are you fighting Jesus with your lies ?

My friend, can you stop running away from the questions?. Who or what is a spirit?. Tell us.

Then tell us the house Jesus entered when He came down in 1914?.

Yes, also please tell us, is the Holy communion a pegan ceremony, that warrant your refusing it?.

Oh so sorry!, just this once. Please tell us how Jesus Christ rose up again, spiritually or bodily?. Thank you.

When you've finished answering these questions, you can then laugh

budaatum:

A person with Christ would never ever write what you wrote above, is the point I was making with the forest in your eyes!

Any person with Christ would at least know the lesson taught in the parable of the Samaritan, who the people who were being taught at the time would have made a similar comment about! A person with Christ would also have considered their dentist bill in "thank you Lord that I am not like that tax collector over there".

Sorry Primesky, but if your version of Jesus was the Way, I intentionally and gladly go in the opposite direction to you since my destination is not the one you're going to.

No amount of sentiment from you will excuse this fact. The bible tells us that He that believes in Jesus is saved, and not condemned, but he that believeth not is condemned already!.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


Do you expect me to paint the truth for you, and make it sweet?. Stop misquoting and misapplying scriptures!. Do you know what it means for a man to die without Christ?. If only you know, you will be begging to be saved. I repeat, it will be better never to be born, than that a man will die without Jesus Christ!. Don't play with eternity here my dear, it's not religion. This ice cream gospel is the reason why we have very care free Christians today. I judge no one, but I will not paint the gospel to suit your feelings nor my feelings.You either take the gospel as it comes to you, and be saved or you don't. But you must understand that it is for your own good, both you and me. It doesn't matter who you are or where you come from, if you have Christ in you, beautiful!, you are good to go. If you don't, sorry, you have need of a major change that is the bible.

You want the type of preaching that tells you that Christans and Muslims worship the same God, or it's a season of grace, so we can actually do what we like, absolutely unchristian!.

What I said and I'm still saying is the raw truth!. If you don't have Jesus Christ in you, and you away like that, you're forever lost!.Tell me that doesn't call for seriousness?.

OP, don't worry yourself alright?. I have been using the name 'Jesus Christ', and it has always worked for me.

God understands all languages, if God accepts it, then Satan has no say about it. If there is any addition or subtraction, the Lord Holy Spirit is always available to guide us.

In dealing and relating with God, the Holy Spirit, and not just history, is all we need. Thanks.

The Bible is not a scam!. I won't be surprised to hear something else. We are engaged in a battle of mind and soul. The devil and his fallen angels colleagues will spew any lie just to deceive people. He doesn't have to come out personally as he has foot soldiers as well, but he will fail woefully!.

A man denying the existence of God, or the authenticity of the bible is like a man who sits on a branch of a tree, and is actively cutting off the branch of the tree.

The life of every man can only be sustained in God by the word of God.

budaatum:

It is fear mongering! And I fear not! You have no evidence whatsoever for this so called "eternal life" you live in fear of not attaining. And life on this earth and the amazing things one could get on with rather take up so much of the time I have that I don't see the benefit of bothering about whatever might happen to me once I'm dead. Doing so would be considering myself lower than the birds and the bees. I'd rather leave such bothers to the gods, if there are any. But since there aren't any. I'd rather get on with living, thank you, than bother what happens after I'm dead.

A man without Christ is worst of than the ants!. Such a man is hopelessly lost. It were better that such a person was never created, than that he/she should live without Christ.

How wise is your position?. The messenger is entitled to give his message, the recipient has the choice to accept or deceive himself. What will you call a teenager who rejects the warnings about HIV/AIDS given to him/her by married couples?. The teenager may as well say it's fear mongering like you.

This is the same thing that happened in the time of Noah, until the flood came and drowned them. It would have been such a foolish thing in their eyes and ears for Noah to keep talking about flood to a people who knew nothing like rain. Yet, for 120 years Noah warned them, but for them, like you, it was fear mongering, as there was no evidence. Unfortunately, both the evidence and the consequences came along the same time, it was rather too late. Wake up now!.

Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life. While you yet live, make peace with your maker and be saved. Jesus still loves you dearly!.

Peacefullove:


Stop telling lies

He said he didn't go to heaven - I ( Jesus) haven't ascend to my Father and God , John 20 vs 17

He didn't went to his Father in heaven the day he died . his Sprit is not a person . shey you grab ?

I know you must continue to lie that he go to his Father the day he died so that u can maintain your gabbage definition of human spirit. But as the case reveal , It's a Big lie.

What a pity!. You have simply refused to it the obvious truth. But that won't save you. Why do you harm your self like this?.

The Spirit is not a person?. Who said that, God or Mr. Russell?. The bible or the watch tower?.

If the spirit is not a person, then who or what is it?.

A spiritless or soulless man is a demon!. Get that very clear. So tell me who you are?.

You call it garbage, nonsense and non existent as you have been programmed by watch tower to believe. The bible refers to the spirit as a person!. So who is the lair, you or the Holy scriptures?. Isn't it shameful that you would reject the bible truth and accept the doctrine of a man or men?, because they told you that no matter how much you read the bible, you can never know it well enough except they, the chief slaves at watch tower interpret it. What a horrible prison!. My dear, repent and come out of that cult!. It's a plea, not an insult please.

budaatum:

Really? You must be one of those who have not sinned. If you weren't, you'd be focusing on the speck in your own eye instead of the forest you see in the eyes of others.

Who are you then to tell me I am a sinner?. Who is it that condenmeth?.

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are ed away; behold, all things are become new.
Please stop misquoting and misapplying scriptures.

Now read the ages below and acquire knowledge. People should stop misquoting the scripture that says "...judge not that ye be not judged". You must differentiate between condemnation and correction.

Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.


Now I say it again, a man/woman who does not believe in the person of the Holy Spirit, and that Jesus Christ is God, and that Jesus Christ rose bodily from the grave, is acting contrary to the bible.

A person who blatantly reject the Holy communion, which was commanded by Jesus Christ Himself, needs to repent and seek forgiveness.

A person who tells you that Jesus Christ has already come the second time in spirit form is lying and does not speak about Jesus Christ the Son of God!. If you see a brother or sister in such a lie, and don't correct him/her, then you're wicked!.

Restroom:


Can you back up your statements above with evidence from the bible?

Can you defend your beliefs above?

Jesus said He was going away to heaven, and that He will return again to take those who believe in Him so that they can be with Him where He is. Have you not read this age in the scriptures?.

John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.


2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were ed away; and there was no more sea.


Jesus Christ will return again with the sound of the arch angel's trumpet, and all who TRUELY believe in Him will be taken up to meet Him in the air. Please note that this event has not happened yet, as Jesus Christ has not come the second time. This is the truth of the gospel. Shalom.

budaatum:

Not safe from what, exactly?

The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. If you don't have Jesus Christ, you're in danger. It is not fear mongering.

I believe this is true. Anything that doesn't glorify God, cannot be a righteous thing/act. It can't be excused either. It's hypocrisy to sing worldly song and say, 'na God dey do am'.

Christians carry the 'Holy Spirit' of God!. How do we expect Him to abide in us, when you're constantly playing and dancing to that which is inspired by lust, pride and Satan?.

We must be careful of the 'it doesn't matters'. Yes, little they may appear in our eyes, but they are very weighty. May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ abide with us all forever. Amen!.

budaatum:

Black pots and kettles arguing about colour!

Without Christ Jesus, you're not safe!. Repent and receive Jesus Christ today.

thesicilian:
Let's all work on our own salvation instead of focusing too much on others.

Very correct, but it is wickedness to see a brother in a fault, and not correct or direct him. This is not to condemn them, but to show them the lies and false teachings they're meant to believe. I think some of them are ignorant of these falsehood.

Restroom:
Have you heard about God’s kingdom before?

Do you know how it will affect your future on this earth?
How much do you know about God’s Kingdom?
Some religious leaders claim that it is in our heart or established on earth. What does the Bible Say?
Well, lets see some verses in the Bible, to learn about this very important subject.

Majority of the problems facing mankind today, emanates from two sources:
1. The first source is Satan the Devil
2. The second source is Satan followers, evil doers who are multiplying all over the earth like grass.
If you can take care of these two groups, man’s problems on earth are practically solved.

Now, who amongst us can contain Satan or his followers? Can we do a better Job than God, who has promised to handle these two groups at the appointed time?

According to Jeremiah 10:23 states:
(Jeremiah 10:23) I well know, O Jehovah, that man’s way does not belong to him. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.

We do not have the power over our own lives, let alone our fellow man or the powerful spirit enemy of God, Satan. We do not have ability to fix our problems, only God, our creator has.

The Bible clearly shows us how God intends to make life better for everyone who believes in Gods promise to make the earth, into a paradise. Central to the realization of God’s purpose for righteous humans on earth, is God’s Kingdom or Government. It is interesting that Christendom leaders don’t preach about paradise on earth or God Kingdom. They invest a lot of energy in the doctrine of hellfire but nothing on Paradise on earth or what God’s Kingdom will do.

The Truth is this: The Churches don’t preach about God’s Kingdom, because they don’t want it to come. They what God’s Kingdom will do when it comes, and because they don’t like what it will do, they have decided to Ignore this very important Bible teaching and kept their in the dark about God purpose to make mankind live forever on paradise earth in perfect health.
Now let me go ahead and share with you what the Bible says, about what God’s Kingdom will do.

According to the Bible book of Daniel Chapter 2:44 -“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be ed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever,

From this verse:
Jehovah himself established the Kingdom in heaven.
The kingdom will never be destroyed

It will not be ed from one government to another or handover to humans afterwards
Finally, it will destroy all present human government all over the earth and become the only theocratic government earthwide. For 6000 and counting, humans have tried all form of governemt and failed. The only government that has not been tested and allowed to rule over humans on earth is God’s Kingdom. Death, sickness, poverty, corruption, wars and all manner of evils are ills human government have not been able to eradicate from this world despite man’s advances in science. IF God ‘s kingdom were start ruling physically over the earth today, do you think we will still be faced with the above problems?

Personally, I answer no.

Do you know why?

Because Jehovah has installed Jesus Christ, his firstborn son as King over the Kingdom.
That is why Jesus Christ is referred to as the ‘King of Kings’ and Lord of Lords in the scriptures(1Tim 6:15). By means of this Kingdom, under the headship of Jesus Christ, God will bring unimaginable blessings to righteous humans living on this earth and at the same time, everlasting destruction at Armageddon of all the wicked living presently on this earth. For good people, God kingdom means everlasting life, but for evil doers, it means eternal destruction.

Does God give the wicked hope of everlasting life? The wages of sin is death. All evil doers will be killed by Armaggedon!
If evil people think that God wont smash unrepentant evil doers on earth soon, the perfect example of the flood that wiped out the wicked in that righteous man’s time is a pointed remainder that there is no peace and future for the wicked!

God does not put the unrepentant evil doers in his purpose for this earth. Only Good people fit into God future arrangement of everlasting life in a peaceful new world.

In the Bible book of Matthew chapter 6:9, Jesus taught righteous humans an important lesson about God’s kingdom.

In that verse, he stated: “You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.

In Matthew 6:10, Jesus added: Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth.

From the above verse, we see, that if Gods Kingdom does not come, the Will of God for the earth will not take place. Hence, Jesus encouraged righteous ones to pray continually for the Kingdom of God to come. It is only when this Kingdom comes, that is when Gods will or purpose for righteous children of Adam will be accomplished. You see, good cannot permanently conquer evil permanently, if this Kingdom does not come. Mankind needs this Kingdom for his survival, future and lasting happiness. God’s will for this earth will only be realized if his Kingdom comes as Jesus asked us to pray!

Now, for Gods will to take place without hindrance on earth, wicked ones need to be cleared first from the earth. God’s kingdom cannot allow or coexist with evil doers. That is why Daniel 2:44 says human governments will be destroyed from the face of the earth, because they are permanently in opposition to Jehovah Gods purpose. It is not a question of if, no. God has penciled down all human government for destruction. Who can stop it?

Revelation 16:13 states: And I saw three unclean inspired expressions that looked like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and they perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.
Can you fight against God and win? Of course we know the answer!

No
To be continued!

The kingdom of God is within us. The kingdom of heaven is a location above us. We will first go to heaven, stand before the throne of God almighty.

This earth will be completely destroyed, with everything in it. The bible told us that God will make a new heaven and a new earth. This one will be completely destroyed.

The most important thing is to repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal Savior, and to believe that God raised Him bodily from death, then live by faith. This is the gospel.

OneJ:


Keep quiet there ! In another thread ("my take on the Trinity... " by tomakint) U wey dey deny that Jesus confirmed that he is "the Christ, the son of the Living God".
The revelation that God gave to Simon Peter (matt 16:13-17) .

Stop lying OneJ. Don't allow hate to fill your heart because you have erroneously believed in a lie, and someone is pointing out that to you, rather than look at it objectively and repent and come to Jesus Christ, you are attacking, misquoting, lying and misinterpreting post and scriptures. That's not the way to go about it dear. JW is a false religion, it's not an insult, but the truth, and it's open for you to see it, if only you'll be humble. The Holy Spirit is always ready to help you if you seek Him.

OneJ:


Mumu posts littered with half truths & bigotry . Anti JW virus done corrupt una brain finish.
alBAHGDADI (in another thread) saw & read the definition of "begotten" coupled with scriptures which proves beyond doubt that Christ was created by God, the guy deny am jejeli.
Una wan fry beans & drink madquinine for JW matter.

U point one finger at JWs, four others points back at U.
Pls keep it up deary.
Shalom.

Very good!. That's the Antichrist spirit we are talking about. Who ever says Jesus was 'created'?. Absolute falsehood, and these lies of yours will continue to be exposed.

Jesus commanded us to observe the holy communion, you people make jest of it, and deny it. Are you then for Christ?. Jesus said He will rise bodily, you people said no He never rose bodily, so which Jesus are you people preaching about?. Jesus said no body knows when He will return, and when He returns, He will be seen physically by all men, yet, you people said He came since 1914 in spirit, who is lying, Jesus and the Bible or watch tower?. I just pray you see the truth and come out of that cult regardless of how enticing it appears. Shalom!.

darkchild64:
A lot of Christians especially those on nairaland feel that anyone who is not a Christian is filthy,disgusting and foolish,they feel that anyone who doesn't believe what they do is headed for eternal torment in hell fire,so fine let me give them the chance to tell me why I should become a Christian

p.s Pls as much as possible make matured and reasonable comments

You don't just need to be a Christian, but you need to be born again. That is the only way to have eternal life.

It is wrong for any Christian to condemn another, but that's not to say that if they see wrong they shouldn't talk about it. It all boils down to how they do it. Some do it out of ignorance, others out of pride, but that's not what Jesus taught us.

What Christians say about heaven and hell is real and very true. The message is given just as God has given to all mankind. You may think it to be fear mongering or threat, but that's the message.

The message is simple and clear, we have all sinned going by God's holy standard, and no one can save us or be saved except God. Now He comes through Christ Jesus, and says, if you will repent, believe and accept Him as your personal Lord and Savior, you will be saved! But if you refuse to repent and be converted, you have invariably said, you're against God, because sin can't live together with Him. Just as you sweep your house and trash the dirt/unwanted stuff, so it will be for all those who reject His word.

In other words it's for your good. Repent and be saved. It's about religion or church hip, but about having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ the saviour. Shalom.

I do not wish this people any harm, but Jehovah witness is not a Christian body. They so much oppose Jesus Christ in so many subtle ways. I wonder if all of their adherents know this. May God save their souls.

The bible tells us one major characteristic of the anti Christ, and that is denying that Jesus came in the flesh.

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.


Jehovah's Witnesses deny the physical resurrection of Jesus from the dead. This is another radical departure from historic Christian teaching. The Watchtower Society maintains that the Lord's resurrection was purely spiritual and only appeared as physical.

Is this not another way of denying that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh?. This and many more leaves so much questions to be answered as to who this group of people truly are and who they actually believe in.

If you become a JW and then leave them because of their false teachings, you will be literally shunned. You family that remain in the organization will not be permitted to even talk to you!

The Watchtower Society is the only source of truth on earth today and your soul will be destroyed if you refuse their organization.

The Watchtower Society and its followers are all prophets of God today and the Governing Body is directed by angels from God.

The Watchtower and Awake magazines originate with and are treated as equal to the Bible.
They deny the that God consists of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

They deny the deity of Christ (Arian view) Jesus is a created being also called Michael the archangel, and was the first and only direct creation of God.

Jesus was not the Christ (Messiah) until age 30, even though their own bible says in Luke 2:11, "because there was born to you today a savior, who is Christ the Lord."

They deny the bodily resurrection. After Jesus was buried in the tomb, Jehovah dissolved his body into gases and it disappeared forever.
Jesus rose invisibly in three days, so Jehovah had to "materialize" a fake body for him complete with fake nail prints so His disciples would believe it was really Jesus risen.

They deny the personality of the Holy Spirit (viewed by the Watchtower organization as "God's active force", similar to radio waves)
They deny man consciously survives death.

They teach the eternal punishment of the lost is annihilation.
They deny the bodily, visible return of Christ (Christ's "return" was only His "turning his attention" invisibly toward earth in 1914, and there was an invisible "rapture" of the dead of the 144,000 in 1918.)

The cross is a pagan symbol of sex worship, and that all buildings or persons displaying the cross are likewise pagan. Jehovah's Witnesses deny that Jesus died on a cross but a stake. However, recent "new light" in the Watchtower now its they are not certain about the cross, but will continue to deny it anyway.
Further, the watchtower originally claimed it was a cross.
No one goes to heaven but 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses.
They teach Christ is the mediator for only the 144,000, not the average Jw.
Teach only the 144,000 must be "born again", not the average Jw.

Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob etc. were to be back on earth as perfect humans in 1925. The Society built a palatial home called "Beth Sarim" for them BUT when the patriarchs failed to show up, the President of the Society moved in.

Their light gets "brighter and brighter", allowing for many changes and "about faces" on their doctrines. Yesterday's error is today's "truth". Often the "light" bounces back and forth from old to new views and back again! (Might we call this discarded truth... "black Light"?)

Blood transfusions are rejected and if a Witness receives one willingly, it results in his eternal death. However, the society allows Hemopheliacs to consume blood for medical purposes to save their life.

To salute the flag is an act of idolatry.
Participation in any civil holidays, mothers day, birthdays brings condemnation of God.

Only persons who use the true name of God, Jehovah, will have their prayers heard by God. No salvation is possible without using the name "Jehovah."

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Could such a group be truly witnesses for God or against God, especially Jesus Christ?.

Every teaching of this group in some way attacks either the person of Jesus Christ or His work of grace. Otherwise, why do they deny and make mockery of the Holy communion, even when Jesus commanded that it be done often in remembrance of Him?.

OneJ:


Primesky ,did Jesus Christ give Judas a warm embrace & tell him well done ?

Did Moses dance & clap for rebellious Korah & his gang who "rose up against Moses"? Num16:1-50. "Expel the wicked man from among you"1 Cor 5:9-13.

The only begotten is strictly for father & son / parents & child relationship. Therefore, Jesus is the son of Jehovah/ Yahweh, that is why he attained the special status of God's only begotten son.

This is a wicked lie!. My dear be very careful. Everything about JW, is against the person of Jesus Christ!. Jesus Christ is God the son, He has been right from the beginning as such, even Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel identified Him as such, being the fourth man in the fire with Shedrack, Mishark and Abednego. Stop the wicked lie watch tower is feeding you. Oh my dear, wake up!

Did Jesus Christ rise bodily from the dead or not?.

Peacefullove:


Primesky the assumption and liar master.

I will respond to you shortly .

#Peacefullove

I pray God will grant you the Saul experience, because until then, you will keep being deluded thinking you're serving the Lord. I love you, but stop dwelling in a lie. Repent and be saved.

Peacefullove:



You wrote jargons up there , contradicting yourself here and there.

I will pick the sane and relevant point . and we would iron it out

Why am I not surprised?. Truth will always be jargons for the pridefully ignorant. I will keep praying for you though. The Lord is delivering many of your colleagues from that cult.

Peacefullove:

Nothing was twisted , the problem is you don't know your own Bible.

You twisted it!. Stop denying the obvious. Which bible are you talking about?.

the Holy Spirit of God teaches us Christians the bible. You, who teach you the bible?, the Holy Spirit or watch tower?.

Peacefullove:
Primesky lol come and see your partners in Lying affair

Repent and receive the real Jesus now. Stop believing in a lie and deceiving others as well.

Jesus Christ died for you on a CROSS, rose again bodily for you on the third day.

Stop believing in lies. For you people to say that Jesus Christ is here on earth since 1914, makes it clear you talking about false jesus, no wonder your while attack is against the person of Jesus Christ. Only the spirit of anti Christ can do this. Repent and come out from among them now.

Peacefullove:



I always call this guy assumption master and a liar , Can you all now see why?

Primesky says Jesus went to heaven the same say he died !!! Hahahahahahaha

What did Jesus and the Bible say ?

I did not ascend to the Father - John 20 vs 17

He didn't go to heaven until 40 days after been raised up - Act 1 vs 3,9

Primesky , When will you repent of telling lies in the name of doctrine ?

Wonderful!. Spiritual blindness is very real!. It's either you're spiritually blind, or you choose to ignore the truth. Your defense is such as to deny that Jesus has a body, soul and spirit. What a shame.
Peacefullove, Jesus rose bodily from the grave on the third day, ascended to heaven bodily after 40 days!. Do you accept this truth?.

Jessicha:



Seriously someone can be so blind to assume Jesus ascend to heaven the day he died just to protect his opinion . Lol really ?

Are you also one of them?. Did you even read the reply?, never trust this JWs except you're one of them.

Peacefullove left out everything said, and focused on the part that gives him comfort. Is pity this people call themselves witnesses of Jehovah.

I repeat, there is no way a man who does not believe in man having a spirit, soul and body can understand the scriptures!.

Jesus rose bodily from the tomb on the third day, ascended bodily to heaven after forty days!. Peacefullove, do you accept this bodily resurrection and ascension?. May God help this people o.