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OtemAtum:


I read the first paragraph and saw no sense in your premiss.

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

You better open your eyes before it's too late. When the lies of your sponsors are exposed, you try to cover up in pretence. No hiding place for the snakes, lizards and frogs, AKA fallen angels, who you now serve as a mouth piece. I repeat, they will fail woefully!

Jesus Christ is Lord over them all and forever. Salvation is now!

TATIME:
My good friend true Christianity's utterances are much more advanced than just quoting the Bible because Atheists aren't moved with words found in written documents! As i've told you before "Atheism" is another form of RELIGION foretold in the Bible.it is the end time religion that will destroy both Christendom and Islam,according to Revelation chapters 16-18 this group will emerge from nowhere and gradually catch the attention of most people,they will take over the political system and then ban all globally recognised religions because "they failed to bring lasting peace and security" so to atheists the global religious system lacks the merit to be kept alive. They are quietly and gradually catching most youths around the world today,soon they will outnumber religious people and stop them finally. It is the work of the Devil because Jesus will soon come to seize him and send him into the bottomless abbyse so Satan and his demons are using their last power to gather or recruit human SOLDIERS against TRUE CHRISTIANITY which is the ONLY group producing the fruit of the spirit. Today most people can't recognise or identify us due to countless groups claiming "Christians" but after atheism has taken over everywhere we will be seen standing alone as if we have nobody to protect us. Then Satan will now direct their attention towards us but Jehovah will give Jesus the go ahead to stand up and fight for us because we have remain obedient to God's son to the end. Matthew 24:11-14 Jesus' command is that we remain harmless no matter how Satan tries to frustrate or intimidate us! They will soon start doing things that's totally inhuman like taking people's possessions forcefully,mating with animals in broad day light,raping females openly,homosexuals and lesbianism publicly and the laws will permit them because they will be at the helms of affairs,who ever is having Atheism(the idea of no submission to divine standards) in his veins will NEVER listen to the truth rather they will attack you if your power of reasoning is disturbing their minds they scornfully detests MIND CONTROL! So they will try to ridicule every religious beliefs but when they face TRUE Christianity(Jehovah's Witnesses) their power of reasoning shall be conquered or silenced and they will result to VIOLENCE! Isaiah 54:17 compared to Revelations 12:11

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1 Corinthians 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

1 Corinthians 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.


We must trust the power of the word to make a change, not our skillful use of words. The scripture is God's word, it can break any rocky heart, maybe not when we think, but definitely!. Say the word, let the Holy Spirit do His work as He chooses.

geoworldedu:
The holy spirit sabi better thing, chei! Holy Spirit saw Elizabeth, didn't sleep with her, prolly cos she was old, haggard and ugly. Sexy Mary, chei! This girl too sweet for straff. Sharply, Holy Spirit straff am, perhaps he drugged her cos she wasn't aware.
Sharply Sexy Mary got pregnant.

Sex b4 marriage, holy spirit is guilty. Hmm.

Christians in the house, come and defend the Holy Spirit in this situation.


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Your hatred for the truth has blinded your mind and understanding.

Was Elizabet a virgin?. How are you so sure that she hadn't had sex with her husband before then?. A virgin must carry the sinless blood, to stop foolish talkers and boasters from doubting the authenticity of the blood. The blood of Jesus Christ remains the only sinless blood in the whole universe. Unless you're cleansed by it, you can never be cleansed not saved!

Can you see how dirty your heart is?. The mouth can never say what isn't in the heart. This is the reason you need Jesus Christ now!. Such filtiness can't survive God's glory and righteous presence.

A careful look at your reasoning and words will reveal the source. Such filthy and sexulised character is only promoted by the fallen angels. This is the same reason why God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah!

It is only an ignorant fly that will boast itself against a raging furnace.

Blessed be the one and only Holy and righteous God.

Salvation is free for all, but only the wise take it.

TATIME:
#Primesky I'm saying all these not because of the atheists but for your sake,why? Because you somehow feel for them and have good thoughts towards them. Judas Iscariot was an Apostle of Jesus,one of the fittest twelve of the first century Christians yet he was a son of destruction not by destiny as some may think but out of his own (personal) greed for material things. John 17:12 compare to James 1:13-15 Jesus' prayer recorded at John 17 was before the blunders of Judas Iscariot so it is clear that the Devil who confused PERFECT heavenly host like angels to sin must be able to get just one of the 12 Apostles no matter how Jesus train them,therefore it is left for each of them to remain faithful and loyal or fall into Satan's snare! This generation will face the greatest type of genocide that has never occured in the history of man on this planet (Daniel 12:1)but because it is divine judgement,we TRUE Christians are not fearful of what is coming since it has been revealed to warn us in the Bible. Zephaniah 2:2,3 compare to Roman 15:4 All we need to do now is to maintain our position and keep praying so that we do not give in to Satan's devices. Luke 21:36 I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses as i have often told you and i'm 100% sure that anyone who is not a member of that organization can't escape this impending catastrophe,granted some who are studying the Bible with us "PROGRESSIVELY" shall be spared(Malachi 3:16-18) but none of those who remain disobedient to the organization will be saved including those who are attending our meetings yet living a double life! James 4:7,8 I think i have tried all my effort but if you have any question to be sure that what i am saying is from the Bible please feel free to ask me. Farewell!

No body will see the punishment of hell and keep quiet about these guys. They have no idea what's on the other side. And I think most Christians are misbehaving now because, the whole story of hell sounds like a ferytale to them. That place is real and terrible!.

How I wish God will give you yourself just a minute of experience of it, then you will understand. You wouldn't want anybody to go there. We mustn't stop or give up on them regardless of what the bible said. The bible didn't mention a specific person. We can never know who will repent and change his ways and accept Christ.

Jesus Christ saves!. Salvation is now!.

TATIME:
#Primesky all these things i mentioned above could sound strange to you not so? But please ask atheists what is wrong in Bestiality(humans having sex with animals) or Homosexuality(man having sex with man) or Lesbianism(woman having sex with woman) or Rape (whether man forces woman or otherwise). Ask them what is wrong with stealing,money rituals,witchcraft,spiritism,oppression and so on. Well they will only tell you Otem or Odim or Octopus was the initiator of such things about 800 billion years ago so IT IS NO CRIME! Please be warned my friend because they are the generation the Bible foretold that will provoke God's anger to bring speedy destruction upon this system of things (Satan's dominance on earth)and they are gradually increasing in number by the second! No hypocritical Fasting or Prayers can stop them now because the ruler of this world (John 14:30 compared to 2Corinthians 4:4 and 1John 5:19)is the one speeding their growth so their fast increase will lead them DIRECT into the lake of fire(everlasting destruction). So instead of worrying yourself because of these sons of disobedience(Ephesians 5:6) why not looking forward to how you too can become a REAL Christian to fully understand all these things?

My dear, a hope for one more big revival. Hopefully, it will happen. If Jesus comes now, very few persons are ready to go with Him.

Like the story of the one lost sheep, we must continue to seek out the lost. We were lost, and Jesus came seeking for us. We now have that ministry of reconciliation for our kind, to bring them to the knowledge of Jesus Christ.

I believe very soon, some of these guys and some movie and secular music artists will our ranks and desimate the enemy's kingdom. I believe God has a big surprise for the kingdom of darkness. However, we must take heed lest we fall!.

The Quran was inspired by demons. Otherwise tell me, how the said prophet of Islam, by name Mohamed, who was recorded to have been possessed by a demon, be also the one speaking for God?. Can light and darkness dwell together in the same house?.

The very fruit of this man exemplified by his life and conduct, shows he wasn't from God, neither was he inspired by God. So all the so called words of advice are nothing but camouflage!.

Jesus is the way to life. Seek the living, not the dead. Listen to the one who is
alife, not the one who is dead!.

Stop drinking lies like water and eating deception as food.

The very nature itself is crying out in anticipation for the manifestation of the sons of God. So that the workers of iniquity and peddlers of the doctrine of aliens like you will forever be silenced with the power of God's word.

Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Repent and return to your maker now, because the coming power and glory will be too much for you and your sponsors to handle. See, I have warned you!.

Jesus Christ is Lord forever!.

Bluehaven:
(Read to the end before you comment)

If the above title seems to you like an insult to God, you may be sure that you do not know God, if at all, to the level you should. You may also be so sure, that you often limit God to your senses.
My relationship with God has proven beyond any reasonable room for doubt, that God is senseless. This is why a lot of people cannot hear from him, even though they claim to do so.
Hearing from God has been limited to certain people, who too may not be hearing from God.
God speaks all the time, but majority of people can't hear him, because he is oftentimes senseless.
No one is willing to hear from God until he's willing to be senseless.
As a proof of the above statement, two years after I have asked God for wisdom, I lived in utter foolishness, despite I was blessed with so much knowledge, because I was always willing to make sense to people, and perhaps be regarded as the wisest man in earth, but unknown to me, the reverse was what I needed.
Wisdom came to me, only when I was ready for him.
This readiness is inseparably attached to being senseless –willingness to do what he says whether or not, they make sense. This does not mean all senseless people are godly or can hear from God.
This was also my reason to opt out of the university, even after I have long labored for the ission.
Does it make any sense that a man, whose dream is to become one of the greatest philosophers the world has ever produced, opted out of the university to pursue that goal?
But that was what wisdom told me to do, though he never said it will be easy.
I have more evidences that, aside from mine, that God is senseless and that he does not, in most cases, respect human senses.
The case of Hosea in the Bible proves God’s senselessness.
Hosea was a known prophet in Israel, and God told him to marry a well-known prostitute. That obviously does not make any sense, but that was what God told him to do.
Many, who claim to hear from God, may not be hearing from God after all.
They may even reject God’s instructions many times, to do things that their religion dictates, for the fear of criticism.
Religion on its own is an obstruction to attainment of spirituality, the chief of which is hearing from God.
Spirituality is entirely different from religiosity; in fact, one, who is overly religious, cannot be entirely spiritual.
The above statement is proven true by the statement that most people who claim to be spiritual, under the realm of religion hardly hear from God.
They are in most cases, unable to do what God tells them to do, as they may and are often against their religious beliefs, on which they have their reputations well-built.
Majority of people also believe that whatever God says will be easy and perfect from the beginning to the end. It is not true!
That God told you to meet someone for help does not always mean the person will render such help.
That he says you should marry someone does not mean the person is an angel and you won’t have problems.
That he says you should stop your job does not mean you will have another job immediately.
However, if you learn the habit of listening to God all the time and doing as He Has told you to do, you will never fail to achieve the purpose for which he asked you to do it.

Adapted from GODLINESS WITHOUT RELIGION, a book by Soul’e Rhymez.

What a shame!. A mere mortal will open his insignificant mouth to say such foolishness!. Can you stand His least ranking angel?. Oh Lord how gracious you are!.

You asked God for something, and you haven't got an answer at your own stipulated time, and so God is senseless, how foolish can it get?. Are you in charge or is God in charge?. If you can actually tell God how He needs to answer you, when He should answer you and what He has to do as you please, then He is no longer God!.

Wake up from your slumber and repent of this foolishness already!.

Abraham waited way longer than you and never said this nonsense. The lame man waited for 38yrs and never said this. Who told you it was over?. How did you arrive at that conclusion?, that you have come out to open your mouth against the Lord?.

Repent of this thing and ask God to forgive you.

When asking, be sure you are doing so on His own . He is God and not man, you can't have it your way.

The devil is a liar and a thief!.

There is none Holy as the Lord God almighty!. The devil is a liar!

Only him can say such vileness. It is clear that this OtemAtum is an Antichrist!.

People of God know this, there's an attempt to deny the deity of Christ, oppose the knowledge of God, destroy our relationship with the true God and replace it with falsehood. Lying wonders and mesmerizing fantasies have been employed by these satanic agents. Watch and pray therefore and never buy this cheap lies.

Jesus Christ is Lord forever. At His appearing, all these and their sponsors, will be consumed like chaff in the fire!.

Islam is satanic and evil. Islam does not represent good nor does it speak of God. Pretence and false prophecies are no reasons to classify it as peaceful.

The prophet of Islam was demon possessed. That was clearly documented. So how won't you know who he was representing?.

With the brutal Child Abuse, lies and murder committed by islam founding prophet, it is very clear that it is far from the truth, and it's not in any way a promoter of peace.

No amount of compromise can make a chameleon change its nature.

Jesus Christ is the prince of peace. Seek the living not the dead!.

God is omnipotent!. He is perfectly perfect!. He is perfect in all His ways. Neither you nor any other creature present or yet to be made can fault Him in any way whatsoever!.

Rather, men in their sinfulness, need the kindness and mercy of the Lord, to help them.

The good Lord made man perfect from the beginning. Man listened to the voice of lies from Satan and fell into imperfections. Such lies is what you're now peddling. Repent quickly and be free from this great confusion!.

otemanuduno:

Bellorum 5 : 33

33. And Reverad(the Almighty God) said, that which you speak is not the reason for the violence of Nymphidis(Yahweh). Rather, he lacked the character called tolerance, which makes everything in the universe to co-habit.

May the light of truth from the Lord Jesus Christ, consumer every lying tongue against His majesty.

These are nothing but doctrine of demons and fallen angels.

Beware people of God. The time is short and that old serpent called devil is out with all manner of lies, trickery and confusion to deceive men and drag them to hell.

CAPSLOCKED:



NONBELIEVERS FOR A REASON.

WE DON'T BELIEVE IN MAGIC, OR MONEY RITUALS, OR THE EXISTENCE OF DEVIL.

WE DON'T BELIEVE IN ANYTHING WITHOUT CONCRETE VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE.




PS:
LET'S BE WISE, MY FRIENDS.
MONEY RITUALS DON'T WORK.
-IF IT DID BABALAWOS WILL BE THE RICHEST PEOPLE ON EARTH.
-IF IT DID WE WON'T SEE KILLERS SELLING BODY PARTS FOR AS LOW AS 10K, WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE USED IT TO GENERATE BILLIONS FOR THEMSELVES.
-IF IT DID... WELL, ONLY STUPIDITY WILL MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT BY KILLING YOUR FELLOW HUMANS MONEY WOULD START PILING UP IN YOUR WARDROBE, FROM NO WHERE.

PLEASE, STOP KILLING YOURSELVES. STOP KILLING YOUR RELATIVES. STOP KILLING YOUR FRIENDS. STOP KIDNAPPING AND KILLING INNOCENT SCHOOL PUPILS AND YOUNG LADIES. LET THEM LIVE, IT'S THEIR RIGHT. MONEY RITUALS DON'T WORK. THEY HAVE NEVER WORKED, AND WILL NEVER WORK. EVERY HONEST HERBALIST KNOWS THIS. BUT THEY WON'T TELL YOU BECAUSE OF THE MONEY YOU'LL PAY FOR THEIR SERVICES.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE LEGIT HUSTLE, AND CANNOT WORK HARD FOR MONEY.. BEG PEOPLE FOR HELP. KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR SELFISH PURPOSES DOESN'T PAY.

DON'T DO SOMETHING TODAY THAT YOU'LL REGRET TOMORROW BECAUSE OF FALSE CLAIMS, RUMORS, AND NOLLYWOOD SCRIPT DECEITS.

THANKS.

Self imposed unbelieve. The devil has got no friends and ignorance is no excuse. Everyman will be responsible for what he believes or chose not to believe.

If the devil has his way, he will never allow his identity and existence to be made public, so I'm not surprised by your stand. But it's very dangerous.

Don't wait until you see before you take a decision for God. You may not have the second chance. This is not fear mongering. The world unseen is bigger than what you see.

The devil is a liar and sore loser!.

This lies and confusion can only come from him.

The Lord God almighty made us for His glory and praise. It is satanic to suggest that men should not serve the living God. This effort of yours will fail!

Deuteronomy 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Repent and receive Jesus Christ today. He alone can save you.

Automatic ticket for what?. With this kind of practice, we would never be able to deepen democracy in our country. That's corruption in the highest order!.

Elections should be by merit!. It's good for individuals and groups to have unquestionable integrity, with that no body will hold you down like this. Everywhere you turn to in Nigeria, there's corruption. SMH.

May God save Nigeria from corruption!.

Guys be careful what you do in the name of love out there. Not every body in human form is a human. The devil is not joking!.

Secondly, if you disregard God's rules and order in relationship, and go ahead to do what you like, then get ready to go it all the way by yourself. It is wise to start with God and follow His principles. If anything comes along the way, you have the boldness to solicit His help.

People are becoming increasingly lukewarm and careless about the Salvation of their souls because the doctrine or grace has been commonised. Grace is free but it's not free.

Atheism is a poison to the soul of men. The alarming rate at which men and women are subscribing to atheism should be a serious cause for concern.

The undeniable truth is, if you die without Jesus Christ, you're gone forever!.

RuthlessLeader:

Prove that without Jesus there is no life.

Only Him could atone for our sins. We all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. If you're honest with yourself, you will agree that you yourself have issues you can't get through, sins that seem to overwhelm you.

And at the end of your life time on earth, you will for those wrongs. The wages of sin is death. By that we are all by our own very decisions, condemned to death. But Jesus Christ has the authority to deliver and give life to the condemned. If you don't have Him on your side, how can you then live?.

Only Jesus Christ can save. Receive Him today!.

One of the major obstacle to enjoying God's blessings is unforgiveness. If you don't forgive others their wrong against you, how can you be forgiven yourself?. Imagine you die in such a state, do you think you can make to heaven?.

May God grant us the grace in Jesus name. Amen!.

The devil can lie!. Every work shall be revealed in the end, whether it's true or false. Deceive as much as you like in the name of Jesus or in the name of whatever, that you will surely give of all you've done.

Yes!.

So that you won't have any excuse for not being saved. The price has been paid for. Salvation is open and available for the taking.

Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved. Mind you, there's no salvation in any other name except the name of Jesus Christ. That's the absolute truth!.

Deception at its peak!.

MuttleyLaff:
You can hahhhaha as much as you like.
Enjoy doing it at your expense because the joke is on you.

If you arent levelling false accusations,
you jump on to one strawman to another strawman.
Typical characteristics of someone without substance, depth and informed knowledge.

You still are defiant as you have no proof to tender.
Simple and easy three questions are scaring you to respond to.
What a pitiful sight to behold. SMH

Only the ignorant will buy your lies. You appear to be defending the bible, but you're not!. Stop trying to fool the people. You say one thing now, and another later. Why do you do this?. If you want to serve God, then serve Him honestly!.

I have shown you the error in your assumption of parables where they don't apply, yet, you're still beating about the bush. Stop it!.

Brethren, it's very important that we make our election sure just as the bible onished us. At no time should we feel like we have arrived. We must constantly be on the watch by taking heed to God's complete word.

2 Peter 1:10 wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

The bible said let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he falls!. 1 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
There's nothing like once saved, always saved. Otherwise the above age wouldn't be necessary.

Don't be fooled by anointing, visions and prophecy. The fact that you or anybody can do any or all of these and more, does not mean you're heaven bound automatically. The bible said, without holiness, no man shall see the Lord!. It's very unfortunate that we no longer hear of holiness and righteousness being preached as the top priority in our today's churches. That must stop!. Right before our eyes souls are being lost into eternal damnation, and we seem to feel complacent about it.

How can a Christian, who calls himself a child of God, be adorned with the fashion of hell?. You can't bring the fashion of hell to heaven, be warned!.

How can a Christian sister, who says she's born again, call herself a slay queen?. Who are you slaying?. Did God call us to slay in dressing and fashion?. You can't dress like a prostitute and be a prophetess of God, Never!.

How can you a child of God, all in the name of football, call yourself 'a red devil'. Like seriously?. Who told you is a mere joke?. Do soldiers jokes on the war front?.

There are many anointed men, prophets, miracle workers, prolific preachers and vision seers in hell. But no holy man who had totally surrendered everything to God is there. What ever you do brethren, don't forget that your service must be such that is acceptable to God, not your pastor or G.O, or whatever. They may approve you but God disapprove. Respect them non the less. But seek God's approval.

We must all return to God in sincere repentance, and live holy and righteously. Preach the word brethren, souls are perishing in large numbers!.

May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen!.

MuttleyLaff:
1/ Show me the reason why you have/had to show me a parable of a non parable Jesus made in the open
2/ Reproduce here my comment, exactly how I wrote, as in, what word for word did I write, that said "Jesus didn't say anything in the open without a parable"
3/ Please reproduce here, where I typed and you claim I've said:
Jesus always speaks in parable to the non disciples, but plainly to His disciples.

If you cant, if you are unable to, then please retract your false accusations
and tender apologies accordingly

I know you are defiant, as I know you cant, simply because your accusations are unfounded
Now, you being one, that doesnt understand the meaning of honour and integrity
cant be expected to know the needful that needs to be done

Each to their own. SMH.

PS: The main challenge for some here, is information overload,
so write up, is shorter, no more anyone becoming, a victim of information overload

Hahhaha... All I'm saying is, do not add what isn't in the bible to it. The bible is OK the way it is. It was never written to confuse anybody, God is not the author of confusion. So no need for assumption by suggesting, figure of speech, meaning of parable, this and that.

The bible is literal in meaning!. Where that isn't the case, it will also tell you.

All of this books down to the truth that hell fire exist, and people choose to go there by their decisions. Let no man deceive you.

Jesus describes it as the fire that never shall be quenched!, no need trying to twist the meaning of it.

TATIME:
The reality is that right after the incident in the garden God(Jehovah) stopped having any dealings with humans. The garden is where the Almighty God had a DIRECT dealing with humans but as Adam and Eve left the garden,another spirit started acting in place of Jehovah as a mediator,this spirit occupied that office of God throughout until a ransom sacrifice was performed to buy few humans as DIRECT children back to Jehovah again. That spirit is Jesus that was why Apostle John wrote in his gospel "in the beginning(of creation) was the word(JESUS whose VOICE was heard always as if God Almighty is communicating with humans) and the word was with GOD(Jesus was the one monitoring all affairs reporting back to His father who has turned HIS attention away because Jehovah is too pure to look upon evil)and the word was GOD(the one you all had been relating with as God)" John 1:1. So it was after the day of pentecost that God for the first time turned HIS attention back to humans since the incident in Eden to start dealing DIRECTLY with us again! Romans 8:14,19 God will make them rulers of the earth to take up the responsibility that Adam failed to take which is teaching others God's standards,that's why they are called the BORN AGAINS. Deuteronomy 6:6,7 So if not for Adam's blunder we should be direct sons of God. Luke 3:38 and Adam supposed to teach us God's laws! All these means that God don't know any of Adam's children because to HIM we're all as good as dead like our father Adam! Luke 9:60 It's the born agains that are DIRECTLY connected to God Almighty again as HE bought them by HIS holy spirit! Act 2:1-4 Please to the true God we're all dust(Psalm 103:14) so those who aren't ready to exercise faith in Jesus will perish no matter how many they are(John 3:16-18)to HIM they are good as manure for growing food in order that obedient ones may continue to have abundant food! Psalm 67:6,72:16,83:10 There is nothing God can do for them again my friend,HE has made a provision for everyone of Adam's descendants to be saved so if they failed to seize the opportunity it's their fault not God's. Deuteronomy 32:5

God has never at anytime abandoned His people because of sin, never!. Who told you that?.

The Lord himself came down on Mount Sinai.

Exodus 19:18 And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.

19:19 And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice.

19:20 And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the LORD called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.

19:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go down, charge the people, lest they break through unto the LORD to gaze, and many of them perish.


Yes, there are many times God sent His angel, which the bible always referred to as 'the angel of the Lord', however, God directly dealth with His people right from the garden of Eden after men fell. After Adam sinned and was driven out, it was still God who made animal skin and clothed them. It seems you don't know how much God loves man. Yes, He does not tolerate sin, but that is not to say, He was never directly involved in men's affirs after the fall. Look at the age below.

Exodus 32:34 Therefore now go, lead the people unto the place of which I have spoken unto thee: behold, mine Angel shall go before thee: nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them.

What happened in the verse above?.God was directly dealing with this people until they sinned greatly, then He said to Moses, I would rather send my angel to lead you, otherwise with the way this people are going, I will destroy them along the way. Then Moses pleaded to have the presence of God go with them. Even after that, on several occasions, God was directly involved with His people.

So, all along God has been dealing with man regardless of the intervention by his angels and prophets.

tomakint:


Don't always be in a hurry to know the mind of God concerning his Word. You need the Holy Spirit for deeper interpretations of the Scriptures to you. The Bible is never in of Trinity, a doctrine evoked by a Roman Emperor, Flavinus Constantine in the year 325 AD despite reading the lengthy piece of the origin of Trinity as a dogma in the first page of this thread, I wonder why you are trying hard to rubber stamp Trinity Doctrine into the Bible. There is only One God (Yahweh, Jehovah) there is only Begotten Son who also worships the Father as seen many times in the book of John chapters 6 upwards, also in Revelations from Chapters 4 to 6 and also this same Only Begotten Son can be worshipped as established by the Only One God ( Yahweh). Trinity preaches about three Gods united in one, under the same substance, co-equal in strength and authority........so looking at this, I still wonder why you are trying to squeeze Bible ages to Trinity when it is not so. Read other people's opinions here and learn......be opened to learn from others. God bless you!

That's a complete lie my dear. Don't deny the bible!

No amount of twisting and lying will push away the obvious truth. Trinity was not invented by any man.

Maybe you're not actually reading your own thread. There's only one God who manifest himself in three!. You yourself are a trinity. I wonder how difficult that is to understand. Let me tell you, denying the trinity is to not believe in who God is. You need to tread carefully, don't let the devil deceive you.

If you truly have the Holy Spirit, you wouldn't be arguing about this because He cannot deny himself!.

MuttleyLaff:
You are used to the fast food
You are at home with easily prepared processed food, as a quick meal or to be taken away like the kind served in snack bars and restaurants.
You prefer, the prepared and served quicker, typically less nutritionally, less valuable and unhealthy food
than the wholesome, well prepared, seasoning added, traditional food

Reading requires actual and full concentration.
but you're averse to write ups with detailed information because you lack discipline and concentration

I have given you opportunities to reproduced here, my exact words, where, when and how I have contradicted myself
but alas, you keep on shying away from doing so

I will reask you here again

Primesky does Matthew 5:2-12 come across as parables to you?
Are those parables? Hmm?

I feel so bad that you're more confused than confused.com
If you cant grow up like I earlier advised
then go for a change into a snug and/or close-fitting apparel,
instead of that oversized jacket, oversized shirt, oversized tros and oversized shoes you have on

My dear stop denying yourself!. You misquoted and misinterpreted a verse of scripture saying Jesus didn't say anything in the open without a parable. Now, I have shown you an example of a non parable Jesus made in the open, and you're here twisting tongue. If you're wrong why don't you own up and stop dancing around?.

TATIME:
#Primesky It's good to have ACCURATE knowledge of God's word(Romans 10:1-3) otherwise Satan can easily crept in with his deceptive means to divert our focus or blur our power of discernment. Jesus,when Satan came to tempt Him,Satan never came saying "i'm the devil and i've come to tempt you". So what helped Jesus? Of course it's His unshakable faith in God's words all of which came through Him to Bible writters. Satan kept quoting to change Jesus' resolve but Jesus kept quoting to maintain His balance. Matthew 4:1-11 Notice that Jesus knew the scriptures PERFECTLY so He knows where,when and how to apply each word,after Jesus ed the test God's angel came down and started attending to Him. Meaning spirits can come in any way to make you break God's word but it's your unshakable stand on what has been WRITTEN that will help you to discern whether it's a demon or an angel. Satan did not give up in tempting Jesus so he started watching Him closely to study His weaknesses(Luke 4:13)when Satan noticed that Jesus has began to trust Peter's reasoning he tried to come in through Peter. Matthew 16:13-23 Always alert,Jesus got it right again because He was relying solely on God's written words unlike King David who was misled by a demon to do what was wrong,of course he paid dearly for it! 2Samuel 24:1-4, 1Chronicles 24:1-4 Even when Joab was reminding David of what God had said in the written first five scriptures,David kept saying "i heard the voice of Jehovah" So lesson learnt any demon can come and speak to humans since you can't differentiate from the voice of angels and God because they are all spirits,what will help you? It's the same logic i gave the atheists! Sincerely,humbly and efficiently question such a spirit with the knowledge you heard in God's written word. If he is a demon,he can't withstand God's word so he will RUN away from you until another convenient time. Luke 4:13 Because it is man's DOUBLE MINDEDNESS that the demons capitalises to mislead humans! James 4:7,8

That's true!.

OneJ:




U are STILL confused !
U said "God the Father- the Supreme Head." (1 Cor11:3). Where U see "God the son " for your Bible?


Ntgreek agreed that. "Jesus is not the Father God". Why is the truth too difficult for una to understand?
I know say U go bring up this issue. Na which crime Jesus commit if he answer him Father title wey him Father permit? (John8:28,29. 10:25. ).
Therefore, Rev 22:16 is no proof that Jesus is God. Jesus is an Apostle ( Hebrew 3:1), does it mean he is of equal rank & status with his apostles ? Or does that mean that Jesus is the same person as Apostles Peter/Paul ?
For instance, Burutai is a military officer just as the Commandant of the NYSC is a military officer, na the same person them be ? After all, who is the source of this Revelation ?
Rev 1:1 " The Revelation of Jesus Christ ,which God gave unto him.... he sent & signified it by his angel unto his servant John".

This is my final response to U on Trinity issue. We can agree to disagree.
Shalom.

Hahaha... The truth remains the truth!. Please don't deny it. I won't mock you. I need you to see the truth for yourself, and the bible is very clear about who Jesus Christ is. It's just that you're trying to defend yourself and save face. That I understand, but please, don't continue in it.

Again, you have misinterpreted what the bible meant by calling Jesus Christ an Apostle.

If Jesus answering the name of God was just because God is his father, why should only him answer the name of his father?. Are the angels and men not sons of God, who can also answer the name of the Father?.

Let me show you again from scriptures.

John 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Why did the Jews say that by saying He is the Son of God, He makes Himself equal with God?. Did the language hide something from us?. Again, why is that everytime, Jesus is referred to, the definite article 'the' is always attached as a prefix to Son?. Why is it always 'the Son of God'?. Is Jesus Christ the only son of God?. Why is He always referred in such manner?.

Jesus is not a mere prophet or apostle, but Jesus Christ is God the Son!. Shalom.

MuttleyLaff:
Primesky please
1/ What are the lie charges you're levelling against?
2/ What are the falsehood charges you're levelling against?
3/ Show the trickery you accuse me of
4/ Provide the misinterpretation you alleged I did

Primesky, since you said my reply above has clearly exposed who I am
now I ask you: Who do you say I am?

You come across as being uncomfortable with this "Jesus and figures of speech" fact and truth
1/ Are you saying Jesus didnt use figures of speech?
2/ Are you denying that Jesus made use of figures of speech?

Primesky, I've come to notice that people hate the truth.
The truth actually bothers people
Also, that when the truth is no longer hidden, people strive to hide from facing it

You know what Primesky, truth is like the sun.
You can shut it out for a time and/or hide from it,
but that doesnt mean its gone or going away

Yes, the Holy Spirit will come to illuminate and to enlighten spiritually

I guess, if going along with your kind of reasoning,
then there are no more truths to know, no more truth to learn about.
and so what is there for the Holy Spirit to teach. Right?

You say my comments which are centred around factual information assumptions.
What do you know. Pfft. SMH.

Depends on what sort of man you're talking of
or what kind of man you're referring to

On the grounds, that you misquoted me.
You took my comments, distorted it, gargled it up
and then not only wrongly representing and misinterpreting them
but also out of context made remarks about them with your false accusations.

What position?
What "misinterpreted"?
You got caught up in your misunderstanding that you ended up giving a misreport of what I said in my comments

Please reproduce the statement here.
Reproduce here, word-by-word, exactly the same I wrote the statement
and lets both examine it to see what I was expressing

I dont know what you're talking about with this

Seems the import of that info,
about when I remarked, that the Bible originally didn't contain chapters or verses, went over your head

Can you please tell me, what it is,
tell, what this supposedly position of mine is?
Also I'll very much appreciate you reproducing in inverted commas, my statement, my remark or comment you based this on

None of both Primesky.
This is not a parable nor is it a figure of speech
Those, collectively, are called, the beatitudes

²⁸When Jesus had finished saying these things, the crowds were amazed at His teaching,
²⁹because He taught as one who had authority, and not as their scribes.
- Matthew 7:28-29

SMH. Facepalm
Why are you asking, "why didn't the disciples demand for it's explanation secretly like they use to", Primesky?
Are those parables? Hmm?
Does Matthew 5:2-12 come across as parables to you?

Now, Primesky, for your information, that event in Matthew chapter 5, went on, right across Matthew chapter 6
and up on to Matthew chapter 7 before the event, then came to a close, at Matthew 7:28-29

It's clear, you need to grow up.
I can bet my bottom dollar, you would easily misinterpret, my comment about you needing to grow up,
so I have to spell out, what I mean.
You need to beef and buff up, to fill in to that oversized jacket, oversized shirt, oversized tros and oversized shoes you have on.
Spiritual growth.

¹⁰But God has revealed it to us by the Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
¹¹For who among men knows the thoughts of man except his own spirit within him?
So too, no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
¹²We have not received the spirit of the world,
but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
¹³And this is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom,
but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
¹⁴Primesky The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God.
For they are foolishness to him Primesky,
and he Primesky cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
- 1 Corinthians 2:10-14

Wishful thinking.
You wish I am doing it with so much head knowledge.

Hahaha.... Please stop filling the page with words. Your whole write up is full of misup, confusion and assumptions. You have completely contradicted yourself.

If what Jesus said in Matthew chapter 5 isn't a parable, yet He spoke in public/openly to the crowed. Why don't you then believe that other cases exist where Jesus didn't use parable?. This is simply because you misinterpreted the scriptures!. Please ask the Holy Spirit to guide you before you misquote and misinterpret the bible.

I feel so bad that these kind of misinformation is spewed out like this. Quoting all manner of scriptures and making absolutely wrong assumptions, and misinterpretations. Rather than answer the questions, you are stylishly dodging it.

You're the one using head knowledge to interprete the scriptures, you're still the same person quoting spiritual discernment. Why are you confusing people?.

frank317:


U and I were actually created by a three headed red elephant that lives underground... And this elephant is not God... He is a three headed red elephant that's all.

U are the evidence that this elephant exists.

Oh how pitiful!. Can you see how you're reasoning?.

1 Corinthians 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;


1 Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.


Be very careful. This thing that looks stupid to you, is the very thing that brings life to men's souls.

Jesus is life. No Jesus, no life!.