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Truthseeker10:
Oga the word can be with "the God".

Good, so why did you ask in the first place?

the question now is who is "The God"In John 1:1? You claimed it was the Father out of all the three person in the Trinity? Where did you see The Father in John 1:1?

The Father didn't appear in John 1:1 and I've explained that I used that to show you the first God is a PERSON.

So are you denying that you did not claim definitely that "THE GOD" referred to "The Father" in John 1:1 instead of the three persons in the Trinity?

I never said I didn't say so that the Father is The God whom the word was with but I never said The God is all the TRINITY persons.

Did I?

Emusan:


If your brain is not paining you and full of dust, you should know that, the fact remains that Watchtower did what those Trinitarians did.

Do you agree with those Trinitarians what they did?

Let see how your hypocrisy mouth will sound this time?

Emusan,If you know your brain is not paining you and full of dust you should know that charity begins at home.
MUMU WAILING hypocrite ,Go and correct your fellow Trinitarians.

Emusan:


Good, so why did you ask in the first place?

Because The God is the three persons of the Trinity. If The Word in John 1:1 is the son, How can the word be with the father, the son and the Holy Spirit? how can The word be with the three persons?

The Father didn't appear in John 1:1 and I've explained that I used that to show you the first God is a PERSON.



I never said I didn't say so that the Father is The God whom the word was with but I never said The God is all the TRINITY persons.

Did I?

So The God is not all the Trinity persons but you said it was the father. Where Did John 1:1 say that it was the father?

Janosky:

Emusan,If your brain is not paining you and full of dust you should know that charity begins at home.
MUMU WAILING hypocrite ,Go and correct your fellow Trinitarians.

But your charity didn't begin at home when you call other TRANSLATIONS fraud and only NWT is the most accurate

Truthseeker10:
Because The God can be any person of the Trinity.

But not when one of the Three as already been mentioned as The Word.

But sure!

If The Word in John 1:1 is the son, the father and the Holy Spirit, how can The word be with the three persons?

Where did you read it that the Words is The Father, the son & the Holy Spirit?

So The God is not all the Trinity persons but you said it was the father.

Gosh....

How can The God be all the TRINITY persons when the word who is part of the Trinity is already mentioned?

It's evident you're lost here.

Where Did John 1:1 say that it was the father?

Already answered!

Stop going round in circles

Emusan:


My logis is that, a creature can never be the Creator.

The evidence from the scripture which you also agreed with is that Jehovah used Jesus to create the UNIVERSE
[s]which includes ALL THE ANGELS i.e Michael
[/s]
Jesus is the Creator the UNIVERSE according to JaNosense.

You can't force what is not in the scripture into it.

Hebrew 1:2
"The God created the universe"

Emusan LYING miscreant
"Jesus is the creator "

LYING faithless miscreant, you can't force what is in your deluded brain into the holy scriptures.

Your Trinitarian mentors proven that @ Genesis 16:7 Jesus is the first angel, the Chief /archangel Michael, the Head of all principalities and powers in your holy Bible.

MUMU WAILER deceiving himself.

Emusan:


But not when one of the Three as already been mentioned as The Word.

But sure!



Where did you read it that the Words is The Father, the son & the Holy Spirit?

I've corrected the statement in bold.

Gosh....

How can The God be all the TRINITY persons when the word who is part of the Trinity is already mentioned?

It's evident you're lost here.




Already answered!

Stop going round in circles

Oga where did you see the rule that The God cannot be The Father, The son and the Holy Spirit?

Who are you to set that rule if The God can be any person of the Trinity in John 1:1?

Janosky:

[b]Hebrew 1:2
"The God created the universe"

Emusan LYING miscreant
"Jesus is the creator "

Through who?

Oponu JaNosense

LYING faithless miscreant, you can't force what is your deluded brain into the holy scriptures.

See the shameless lying liar JaNosense who deliberately remove THE SON from Heb 1:2

Truthseeker10:
I've corrected the statement in bold.

What does your correction change?

Oga where did you see the rule that The God cannot be The Father, The son and the Holy Spirit?

Then answer my previous question.

How can The God be all the TRINITY persons when the word who is part of the Trinity is already mentioned?

Who are you to set that rule if The God can be any person of the Trinity in John 1:1?

Where did I set any rule in the first place?

Why is Christ the angel of the Lord?

I just love this topic!

Truthseeker10:

I've corrected the statement in bold.




Oga where did you see the rule that The God cannot be The Father, The son and the Holy Spirit?

Who are you to set that rule if The God can be any person of the Trinity in John 1:1?

Idiot.
The very diagram goes against such.

The council of Nicaea was not filled with dullards they took into consideration: theological, logical and ontological implications of the trinity!

They didn't have selective amnesia 👀.
They took all the verses and God helped them make sense of it in the right way unlike you guys offshoot of Arian!

Gabrielshow24:

Idiot.
The very diagram goes against such.

The council of Nicaea was not filled with dullards they took into consideration: theological, logical and ontological implications of the trinity!

They didn't have selective amnesia 👀.
They took all the verses and God helped them make sense of it in the right way unlike you guys offshoot of Arian!

Is your indoctrination in the Diagram?

[quote author=Emusan post=134599941]

Then answer my previous question.

How can The God be all the TRINITY persons when the word who is part of the Trinity is already mentioned?

The question is absolutely for you if you Agree that The God refers to the three persons of the Trinity not just The FATHER.

Where did I set any rule in the first place?

Below is your direct answer to a question I asked about the person referred to as THE God. Why did you not include The Holy Spirit and the Son as shown in the Diagram?

Emusan:


Through who?

Oponu JaNosense

See the shameless lying liar JaNosense who deliberately remove THE SON from Heb 1:2

God created the Universe through his son Emusan.
Is Emusan the Creator?

That is the MUMU logic deceiving Emusan.
MUMU deluded empty headed soul..

Janosky:

God created the Universe through his son Emusan.
Is Emusan the Creator?

Good! Why did you remove the son?

Which means the Song wasn't part of the UNIVERSE?

That is the MUMU logic deceiving Emusan.
MUMU deluded empty headed soul..

Did the Son part of what He was Created?

Untill you answer that JaNosense

Janosky:

God created the Universe through his son Emusan. Is Emusan the Creator?
That is the MUMU logic deceiving Emusan. MUMU deluded empty headed soul..

I've maintained politeness with Emusan, the other Gabriel guy can't discuss without adding insults but i look away since they both claim you are the cause why they can't discuss with us without resorting to abusive speeches.

Truthseeker10:
The question is absolutely for you if you Agree that The God refers to the three persons of the Trinity not just The FATHER.

WHERE DID I SAY THE GOD REFERS TO THE THREE PERSONS OF THE TRINITY?

Below is your direct answer to a question I asked about the person referred to as THE God. Why did you not include The Holy Spirit and the Son as shown in the Diagram?

Is this what you called RULE?

O ma se ooo

Your diagram only shows GOD not THE GOD.
It's through my explanation I used The GOD to show that God in the second part of John 1:1 is a person when you confused it with NATURE through my illustration.

How is that hard for you to understand?

MaxInDHouse:
I've maintained politeness with Emusan, the other Gabriel guy can't discuss without adding insults but i look away since they both claim you are the cause why they can't discuss with us without resorting to abusive speeches.

Now you confess you maintain politeness with with me but look at the post when your deluded brother JaNosense , have you condemned any of his action the way you want to be controlling others?

Emusan:


WHERE DID I SAY THE GOD REFERS TO THE THREE PERSONS OF THE TRINITY?

so The God only refers to The Father?

Is this what you called RULE?

O ma se ooo

Your diagram only shows GOD not THE GOD.
It's through my explanation I used The GOD to show that God in the second part of John 1:1 is a person when you confused it with NATURE through my illustration.

How is that hard for you to understand?

So the father, the son and holy spirit as presented in the Diagram is no longer The God which you claimed refers to person instead of nature in John 1:1?

Emusan:


Good! Why did you remove the son?

Which means the Song wasn't part of the UNIVERSE?

Did the Son part of what He was Created?

Untill you answer that JaNosense

Emusan,allow your deluded brain to function..
Process Hebrew 1:2 again
"Hebrew 1:2 "God created the universe THROUGH another person.".

That "another person" is not the Creator.

Emusan,MUMU deluded empty headed soul.

Emusan:

Now you confess you maintain politeness with with me but look at the post when your deluded brother JaNosense , have you condemned any of his action the way you want to be controlling others?

True Christians don't command respect we earn it so its appealing to others not ordering then on what to do.
For your information that's the purpose of the post you just quoted!

Truthseeker10:
so The God only refers to The Father?

I never said that.

So the father, the son and holy spirit is no longer The God which you claimed refers to person instead of nature?

Where did I say the Father, the son and the holy is THE GOD as a PERSON?

Don't skip this question.

Emusan:


Good! Why did you remove the son?

Which means the Song wasn't part of the UNIVERSE?



Did the Son part of what He was Created?

Untill you answer that JaNosense

MUMU WAILER, "God created the Universe" not his son.

Oga,Allow your brain to function.

Emusan:


I never said that.

So who does The God refer to?

Where did I say the Father, the son and the holy is THE GOD as a PERSON?

Don't skip this question.

Did you not say that The God refers to person instead of Nature again?
Is The Father, The son and holy spirit no longer persons according to the diagram?

Janosky:
Emusan,allow your deluded brain to function..
Process Hebrew 1:2 again
"Hebrew 1:2 "God created the universe THROUGH another person.".

The point here is THE UNIVERSE.

You agreed it through another person.

So will the person be PART OF THE UNIVERSE?

That "another person" is not the Creator.

The person is the CREATOR.

Emusan,MUMU deluded empty headed soul.

Oponu JaNosense.

How can you CREATE SOMETHING THROUGH ANOTHER PERSON BUT THE PERSON who is actually carrying the activities ISN'T THE CREATOR?

Truthseeker10:
So who does The God refer to?

You used ONLY the Father.

If you want to know who was referring 1 John 1:2 have answer

Did you not say that The God refers to person instead of Nature again?
Is The Father, The son and holy spirit no longer persons according to the diagram?

Did I combine them under THE GOD?

Janosky:

MUMU WAILER, "God created the Universe" not his son.

But the UNIVERSE was created through Him.

Now, can Him be part of what HE WAS CREATED?

Oga,Allow your brain to function.

I'll keep hitting your empty skull with that question.

MaxInDHouse:
True Christians don't command respect we earn it so its appealing to others not ordering then on what to do.
For your information that's the purpose of the post you just quoted!

Hypocrite!

You haven't condemned your deluded brother which you can see his post litter with abusive words the way you want others to stop using abusive words which you have demonstrated openly here.

The post I quoted shows bias and hypocrisy.

Emusan:


You used ONLY the Father.

If you want to know who was referring 1 John 1:2 have answer

Does 1 John 1:2 use The word and The God as used in John 1:1?

Did I combine them under one THE GOD?

So which one of the The God is used in John 1:1?

Emusan:

Hypocrite!
You haven't condemned your deluded brother which you can see his post litter with abusive words the way you want others to stop using abusive words which you have demonstrated openly here. The post I quoted shows bias and hypocrisy.

This is what most of you don't know !

We don't command or condemn people's behavior rather we appeal to them lovingly. So don't expect me to start insulting or abusing Janosky for the way and manner he's responding to you that's between you and him i can only appeal to him as my own brother to addressed you calmly not command him!

Truthseeker10:
Does 1 John 1:2 use The word and The God as used in John 1:1?

No! But it clearly stated who the ETERNAL LIFE which is Jesus was with.

So which one of the The God is used in John 1:1?

Your question should be which one of the The Gods is used in John 1:1?

Is there MULTIPLE OF THE GODS in John 1:1?

Don't skip this question

Emusan:


No! But it clearly stated who the ETERNAL LIFE which is Jesus was with.

which is specific....John 1:1 is not specific it uses The God which The son is part of.

Your question should be which one of the The Gods is used in John 1:1?

Is there MULTIPLE OF THE GODS in John 1:1?

Don't skip this question

That question is for you. How many The God(person) do we have according to the diagram that i showed you?