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delkuf:
Jesus is Christ.

OK so who told you JWs don't believe that Jesus is the Messiah (Christ) ?

It's clear you are ignorant and you want to continue in your ignorance but we will tell you the truth.

Jesus is God's only begotten son and God has many sons who are spirit beings, so if the Bible says Jesus is God's only begotten son it simply means he is the first born of all God's creation. Colossians 1:15

That doesn't change the fact that he is one of God's creation because there is no first born who is no part of those being born!

MaxInDHouse:


OK so who told you JWs don't believe that Jesus is the Messiah (Christ) ?

It's clear you are ignorant and you want to continue in your ignorance but we will tell you the truth.

Jesus is God's only begotten son and God has many sons who are spirit beings, so if the Bible says Jesus is God's only begotten son it simply means he is the first born of all God's creation. Colossians 1:15

That doesn't change the fact that he is one of God's creation because there is no first born who is no part of those being born!

so you guys believe that the Lord Jesus is Christ and you also believe that he is also an angel, is that not ignorance on your own part. How can a Christ, a savior be a massager. The Lord Jesus Christ is not a angel, get it right

delkuf:
so guys believe and you also believe that he is also an angel, is that not ignorance on your own part. How can a Christ, a savior be a massager. The Lord Jesus Christ is not a angel, get it right

He is God's messenger!

Ọmọ do you know Jesus more than himself or you want to create another Jesus?

MaxInDHouse:


He is God's messenger!

Ọmọ do you know Jesus more than himself or you want to create another Jesus?

The Lord Jesus Christ cannot be a angel

delkuf:

The Lord Jesus Christ cannot be a angel

Pigheadedness!
OK but he is a MESSENGER according to his own word shey?

MaxInDHouse:

Pigheadedness!
OK but he is a MESSENGER according to his own word shey?

he is not a messenger. I am not going back and forth with you on this because I can see you are so determined to the message of your master the devil.

delkuf:

he is not a messenger.

When Jesus himself said he is the MESSENGER of God!

Jesus, in turn, answered them and said: “What I teach is not mine, but belongs to him who sent me." John 7:16

Now who believes in Jesus of Nazareth between you and i?

MaxInDHouse:


Olódo!

Do Catholics agree that you people are true Christians?

Which version do you believe?
You can't be running from pillar to post arguing blindly if you don't have strong conviction on a particular version or what you want to challenge.

So are you challenging Jehovah's Witnesses conviction over Jesus being the Archangel or you want to learn?

There is only one Archangel according to the Bible but if you prefer the Catholic Bible then go and ask your Papa why he is not using the Catholic Bible to teach you before coming to question the faith of another religion with what Catholics say!

Okay, who God is and who is like God? Are they The same? Can you make a doctrine out of that, knowing that the name is not peculiar to the archangel?

MightySparrow:

Okay, who God is and who is like God? Are they The same? Can you make a doctrine out of that, knowing that the name is not peculiar to the archangel?

The angel of God is also God. Exodus 13:21; 14:19
Try to make a doctrine out of that!

MaxInDHouse:

There are many spirit sons of God or angels in heaven and they are all called "morning stars" {Job 38:7} but one was singled out among the rest as "the bright morning star" {Revelations 22:16} he is called the Arch/Chief angel {Jude 9} this angel always represent God in the Old Testament as the angel of God {Exodus 13:21 compare to Exodus 14:19} but the Bible call other angels as if they all belong to Archangel Michael and Satan being a rebellious spirit son also leads his cohorts who are rebels like him! Revelations 12:7

Whenever God makes any declaration in heaven it's Michael who often es the message to other angels so they all respect him as the voice or word of God {John 1:1 compare to Revelations 19:13} that's why he jumps into action whenever any of his angels have issues with Satan the head of rebels! Daniel 10:13; Jude 9

Salvation of obedient mankind rests on the shoulder of this angel {Daniel 12:3} as he always takes the lead in doing what his father wants and his father has given him the power to raise the dead with just a call! 1Thessalonians 4:16 compare to John 5:28 and 11:43

So it's the same angel that was sent to us as Jesus!

Angels are created beings. Jesus is uncreated. He is God Himself.

excanny:

Angels are created beings. Jesus is uncreated. He is God Himself.

Is that what the Bible told you or religion?

If someone is called the firstborn in the family does it separate himself from other children born into that family? Colossians 1:15-16

If Jesus is the firstborn of creation it simply means he is part of creation!

MaxInDHouse:


Is that what the Bible told you or religion?

If someone is called the firstborn in the family does it separate himself from other children born into that family? Colossians 1:15-16

If Jesus is the firstborn of creation it simply means he is part of creation!

you go explain tire

MaxInDHouse:


Is that what the Bible told you or religion?

If someone is called the firstborn in the family does it separate himself from other children born into that family? Colossians 1:15-16

If Jesus is the firstborn of creation it simply means he is part of creation!

How can someone that created all things be a part of creation?

All things were created by Him. Everything ever created.

Who else created all things if not God?

excanny:


How can someone that created all things be a part of creation?

All things were created by Him. Everything ever created.

Who else created all things if not God?

God empowered his two firstborn sons!

The firstborn spirit son of God was empowered to create living things while the firstborn human son of God was empowered to create non living things.

Jesus who is the firstborn spirit created trees, humans and animals but Adam (man the firstborn of God in the flesh) created aeroplanes, automobiles, spaceships, electronics, skyscrapers, telecommunication and so many other good things we are enjoying today.

Both of them are God's firstborn sons so don't confuse the matter neither Jesus nor Adam (man) can do anything without God's power!

Who takes JW serious??

delkuf:
you go explain tire

True faith is not a possession of all kinds of people! 2 Thessalonians 3:2

So you're free to continue in your idolatry where you only mimic what you were told but can't EXPLAIN!

MaxInDHouse:


That's exactly what a Jew will tell you if you claim Jesus is the Christ.

So enjoy your delusion!

Your time to enter hell is near. You are a child of perdition. Russell and Rutherford are already there suffering and regretting why they deceived many with their false teachings.

Ken4Christ:

Your time to enter hell is near. You are a child of perdition. Russell and Rutherford are already there suffering and regretting why they deceived many with their false teachings.

You called me:

Ken4Christ:
MaxinDHouse, come and defend your lies.

But now you ran away only to start typing nonsense.

Here is the question i asked you:

MaxInDHouse:

Who is Michael?

If you can't handle mature discussion try never to mention my name again on this forum please i hate mad people calling my name!

MightySparrow:


One of the Archangels.


I once in your publications decades ago. I can't really which now. It was said that Michael is interpreted as ' One like God or who God is ' but the scriptures show us many people bearing Michael.


Num.13.13 - Of the tribe of Asher, Sethur the son of Michael.

1Chr.5.13 - And their brethren of the house of their fathers were, Michael, and Meshullam, and Sheba, and Jorai, and Jachan, and Zia, and Heber, seven.

1Chr.5.14 - These are the children of Abihail the son of Huri, the son of Jaroah, the son of Gilead, the son of Michael, the son of Jeshishai, the son of Jahdo, the son of Buz;

1Chr.6.40 - The son of Michael, the son of Baaseiah, the son of Malchiah,
1Chr.7.3 - And the sons of Uzzi; Izrahiah: and the sons of Izrahiah; Michael, and Obadiah, and Joel, Ishiah, five: all of them chief men.

1Chr.12.20 - As he went to Ziklag, there fell to him of Manasseh, Adnah, and Jozabad, and Jediael, and Michael, and Jozabad, and Elihu, and Zilthai, captains of the thousands that were of Manasseh.

1Chr.27.18 - Of Judah, Elihu, one of the brethren of David: of Issachar, Omri the son of Michael:

2Chr.21.2 - And he had brethren the sons of Jehoshaphat, Azariah, and Jehiel, and Zechariah, and Azariah, and Michael, and Shephatiah: all these were the sons of Jehoshaphat king of Israel.

Ezra.8.8 - And of the sons of Shephatiah; Zebadiah the son of Michael, and with him fourscore males.

Dan.10.13 - But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

Dan.12.1 - And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

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The name Michael was in use far before Daniel to mean, ' who is like God or El' No one like God.

I will like you to enlighten us how you make Jesus this Archangel. Just to learn o. No fight.

wait was no one bearing Jesus before Jesus or after Jesus?

MightySparrow:


What is your point?

lol his point is simple and obvious there cannot be two first angels, there is only one first angel before the rest of them

delkuf:
that will be last thing. To believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is an angel. That would be the last thing I would believe. So keep your repentance to yourself

Is Jesus the Almighty God?

excanny:


Angels are created beings. Jesus is uncreated. He is God Himself.

Do you agree that the diagram below explains the Trinity correctly?

Truthseeker10:

Is Jesus the Almighty God?

Jesus is God

delkuf:
Jesus is God

Do you agree with the diagram in the screenshot below in explaining the Trinity?

Truthseeker10:

Do you agree with the diagram in the screenshot below in explaining the Trinity?

all this diagram na sakamaje. Jesus is God period

delkuf:
all this diagram na sakamaje. Jesus is God period

🤣🤣🤣.....ok so why is the diagram sakamaje? What is wrong with it?

MaxInDHouse:


You called me:


But now you ran away only to start typing nonsense.

Here is the question i asked you:


If you can't handle mature discussion try never to mention my name again on this forum please i hate mad people calling my name!

Run away from a serial liar? You are funny.

What kind of question is this? Michael is a name. Please rephrase your question.

Ken4Christ:

Run away from a serial liar? You are funny. What kind of question is this? Michael is a name. Please rephrase your question.

Good that's the name of Jesus in the spirit realms before his earthly mission!

Janosky:

LYING pastor, is Revelation 12:7-9 in your Bible?
Archangel Michael defeated Satan because Archangel Michael is Jesus Christ the Promised Seed of Genesis 3:15.
Satan is the original serpent of Genesis 3:15.
.
LYING pastor, did Revelation 19:14 -16 & 2 Thess 1:7-8 teach you that Jesus the Word is leading angels in battle & victory?
Yes.
Jesus the Archangel Michael is the leader of all angels, indeed the head of all principalities and powers cruising to victory over Satan, Revelation 12:7-9.

Pastor wey no know him Bible is displaying his ignorance.

Jesus Christ is an angel obeying Yahweh's voice and performing Yahweh's word. Psalms 103:30=John 14:24, Psalms 110:1-2.

Pastor wey no know him Bible.

Who gave Jesus Christ the command to forgive sins?

Psalms 103:20, Jesus Christ is obeying Yahweh's voice and performing Yahweh's word.
The disciples forgave sins, because Jesus taught them to perform Yahweh's word, Psalms 103:20 & John 7:16.

You are a rebellious liar. Seeing plain truth and denying it. Your punishment will be worse in hell. Keep rebelling against the word of God. You will weep and gnash your teeth day and night. You will these posts. But it will be too late to repent.

MaxInDHouse:

Good that's the name of Jesus in the spirit realms before his earthly mission!

Where are the evidence ing your claims?

Ken4Christ:

You are a rebellious liar. Seeing plain truth and denying it. Your punishment will be worse in hell. Keep rebelling against the word of God. You will weep and gnash your teeth day and night. You will these posts. But it will be too late to repent.

You keep amusing me each time you post these your illusion.

For your information both Russel and Rutherford are now in heaven sitting beside Jesus on thrones ready to come and wipe liars like you off our planet home!

Ken4Christ:

Where are the evidence ing your claims?

Jehovah's Witnesses organization is the indisputable evidence!

Michael is leading us to do God's will today globally.

Can you present the evidence that you are a believer in Christ Jesus?