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Ken4Christ: 3:52pm On Feb 20
The Jehovah Witness asserts that our Lord Jesus is the same person as Angel Michael. This is false. Below are reasons based on scriptures why Jesus cannot be the same person as angle Michael.

1. Jesus is Worshiped, but Angels (Including Michael) Are Not
Hebrews 1:6 – “Let all God’s angels worship him.”
The Bible commands all angels to worship Jesus, which includes Michael if he were an angel. However, only God deserves worship (Matthew 4:10).
Revelation 5:11-14 – Angels, living creatures, and elders worship Jesus, calling Him worthy to receive power and glory.
Colossians 2:18 – Warns against angel worship, meaning that Jesus, who is worshiped, cannot be an angel.

2. Jesus is the Son of God, Not an Angel
Hebrews 1:5 – “For to which of the angels did God ever say, ‘You are my Son; today I have begotten you’?”
This verse directly refutes the idea that Jesus is an angel. God never called any angel His begotten Son, but He called Jesus His Son.
John 3:16 – Jesus is called the only begotten Son of God, distinguishing Him from angels.

3. Jesus is the Creator, but Angels Are Created
John 1:1-3 – Jesus is the Word, and “through Him, all things were made.”
Colossians 1:16-17 – “For by Him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible.”
Jesus created all things, including angels. Michael, as an angel, would have been created, meaning he cannot be Jesus.

4. Michael is an Angel, But Jesus is God
Hebrews 1:8 – "But of the Son He says, ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever.’”
This shows that Jesus is God, not an angel.
Titus 2:13 – "Our great God and Savior Jesus Christ."
John 20:28 – Thomas calls Jesus "My Lord and my God."
Michael is always called an angel in Scripture, but Jesus is never called an angel. Instead, He is called God.

5. Michael Does Not Have Authority Over Satan, But Jesus Does
Jude 9 – Michael the Archangel says to Satan, "The Lord rebuke you!"
This shows that Michael does not have the authority to rebuke Satan directly.
Matthew 4:10 – Jesus directly commands Satan, "Be gone, Satan!"
Luke 10:18 – Jesus says, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.”
Jesus has absolute authority over Satan, unlike Michael.

6. Jesus is the King of Kings, But Michael is Just a Chief Prince
Revelation 19:16 – Jesus is called “King of Kings and Lord of Lords.”
Daniel 10:13 – Michael is called one of the chief princes, meaning he is not unique in authority.
Jesus is the sovereign ruler, while Michael is just a leading angel.

7. Jesus Sits at God’s Right Hand, But Angels Do Not
Hebrews 1:13 – “To which of the angels has He ever said, ‘Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet’?”
God never invited an angel to sit at His right hand, but Jesus sits there (Mark 16:19).
This proves Jesus is not an angel but the divine Son of God.

8. Jesus Has the Power to Forgive Sins, But Angels Do Not
Mark 2:5-7 – Jesus forgives sins, and the Pharisees say, "Who can forgive sins but God alone?"
Colossians 3:13 – Jesus has the power to forgive sins, proving He is God, not an angel.
No angel, including Michael, has the authority to forgive sins.

9. Jesus Will Judge the World, But Angels Do Not Judge
John 5:22 – "The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son."
Acts 17:31 – God will judge the world through Jesus.
Michael never judges anyone in the Bible, but Jesus is the appointed Judge of all mankind.

10. Jesus is the Good Shepherd, But Michael is Not
John 10:11, 14 – Jesus says, "I am the good shepherd."
Psalm 23:1 – “The Lord is my shepherd.”
Michael is never described as a shepherd, but Jesus is the Shepherd of God’s people.

11. Jesus is the Mediator, But Michael is Not
1 Timothy 2:5 – "For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus."
Michael is never called a mediator, but Jesus is the only mediator between God and people.

12. Jesus' Name is Above Every Name, But Michael is Just an Angelic Name
Philippians 2:9-11 – "God highly exalted Him and gave Him the name that is above every name."
Ephesians 1:21 – Jesus is exalted "above every name that is named, not only in this age but in the one to come."
If Jesus' name is above every name, then He is above Michael and all angels.
Ken4Christ: 3:59pm On Feb 20
MaxinDHouse, come and defend your lies.
Truthseeker10: 5:43pm On Feb 20
Ken4Christ:
The Jehovah Witness asserts that our Lord Jesus is the same person as Angel Michael. This is false. Below are reasons based on scriptures why Jesus cannot be the same person as angle Michael.

1. Jesus is Worshiped, but Angels (Including Michael) Are Not
Hebrews 1:6 – “Let all God’s angels worship him.”
The Bible commands all angels to worship Jesus, which includes Michael if he were an angel. However, only God deserves worship (Matthew 4:10).
Revelation 5:11-14 – Angels, living creatures, and elders worship Jesus, calling Him worthy to receive power and glory.
Colossians 2:18 – Warns against angel worship, meaning that Jesus, who is worshiped, cannot be an angel.

2. Jesus is the Son of God, Not an Angel
Hebrews 1:5 – “For to which of the angels did God ever say, ‘You are my Son; today I have begotten you’?”
This verse directly refutes the idea that Jesus is an angel. God never called any angel His begotten Son, but He called Jesus His Son.
John 3:16 – Jesus is called the only begotten Son of God, distinguishing Him from angels.

3. Jesus is the Creator, but Angels Are Created
John 1:1-3 – Jesus is the Word, and “through Him, all things were made.”
Colossians 1:16-17 – “For by Him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible.”
Jesus created all things, including angels. Michael, as an angel, would have been created, meaning he cannot be Jesus.

4. Michael is an Angel, But Jesus is God
Hebrews 1:8 – "But of the Son He says, ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever.’”
This shows that Jesus is God, not an angel.
Titus 2:13 – "Our great God and Savior Jesus Christ."
John 20:28 – Thomas calls Jesus "My Lord and my God."
Michael is always called an angel in Scripture, but Jesus is never called an angel. Instead, He is called God
.

5. Michael Does Not Have Authority Over Satan, But Jesus Does
Jude 9 – Michael the Archangel says to Satan, "The Lord rebuke you!"
This shows that Michael does not have the authority to rebuke Satan directly.
Matthew 4:10 – Jesus directly commands Satan, "Be gone, Satan!"
Luke 10:18 – Jesus says, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.”
Jesus has absolute authority over Satan, unlike Michael.

6. Jesus is the King of Kings, But Michael is Just a Chief Prince
Revelation 19:16 – Jesus is called “King of Kings and Lord of Lords.”
Daniel 10:13 – Michael is called one of the chief princes, meaning he is not unique in authority.
Jesus is the sovereign ruler, while Michael is just a leading angel.

7. Jesus Sits at God’s Right Hand, But Angels Do Not
Hebrews 1:13 – “To which of the angels has He ever said, ‘Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet’?”
God never invited an angel to sit at His right hand, but Jesus sits there (Mark 16:19).
This proves Jesus is not an angel but the divine Son of God.

8. Jesus Has the Power to Forgive Sins, But Angels Do Not
Mark 2:5-7 – Jesus forgives sins, and the Pharisees say, "Who can forgive sins but God alone?"
Colossians 3:13 – Jesus has the power to forgive sins, proving He is God, not an angel.
No angel, including Michael, has the authority to forgive sins.

9. Jesus Will Judge the World, But Angels Do Not Judge
John 5:22 – "The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son."
Acts 17:31 – God will judge the world through Jesus.
Michael never judges anyone in the Bible, but Jesus is the appointed Judge of all mankind.

10. Jesus is the Good Shepherd, But Michael is Not
John 10:11, 14 – Jesus says, "I am the good shepherd."
Psalm 23:1 – “The Lord is my shepherd.”
Michael is never described as a shepherd, but Jesus is the Shepherd of God’s people.

11. Jesus is the Mediator, But Michael is Not
1 Timothy 2:5 – "For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus."
Michael is never called a mediator, but Jesus is the only mediator between God and people.

12. Jesus' Name is Above Every Name, But Michael is Just an Angelic Name
Philippians 2:9-11 – "God highly exalted Him and gave Him the name that is above every name."
Ephesians 1:21 – Jesus is exalted "above every name that is named, not only in this age but in the one to come."
If Jesus' name is above every name, then He is above Michael and all angels.

King James Bible
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

New King James Version
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”

If Jesus is the God that is being referred to in Hebrews 1:8, Who is the God that is anointing in Hebrews 1:9, And who is the person that is being anointed?

And who are the fellows or companions referred to in Hebrews 1:9?

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MaxInDHouse(m): 5:46pm On Feb 20
Ken4Christ:

MaxinDHouse, come and defend your lies.

Who is Michael? smiley
MightySparrow: 6:42pm On Feb 20
MaxInDHouse:


Who is Michael? smiley

One of the Archangels.


I once in your publications decades ago. I can't really which now. It was said that Michael is interpreted as ' One like God or who God is ' but the scriptures show us many people bearing Michael.


Num.13.13 - Of the tribe of Asher, Sethur the son of Michael.

1Chr.5.13 - And their brethren of the house of their fathers were, Michael, and Meshullam, and Sheba, and Jorai, and Jachan, and Zia, and Heber, seven.

1Chr.5.14 - These are the children of Abihail the son of Huri, the son of Jaroah, the son of Gilead, the son of Michael, the son of Jeshishai, the son of Jahdo, the son of Buz;

1Chr.6.40 - The son of Michael, the son of Baaseiah, the son of Malchiah,
1Chr.7.3 - And the sons of Uzzi; Izrahiah: and the sons of Izrahiah; Michael, and Obadiah, and Joel, Ishiah, five: all of them chief men.

1Chr.12.20 - As he went to Ziklag, there fell to him of Manasseh, Adnah, and Jozabad, and Jediael, and Michael, and Jozabad, and Elihu, and Zilthai, captains of the thousands that were of Manasseh.

1Chr.27.18 - Of Judah, Elihu, one of the brethren of David: of Issachar, Omri the son of Michael:

2Chr.21.2 - And he had brethren the sons of Jehoshaphat, Azariah, and Jehiel, and Zechariah, and Azariah, and Michael, and Shephatiah: all these were the sons of Jehoshaphat king of Israel.

Ezra.8.8 - And of the sons of Shephatiah; Zebadiah the son of Michael, and with him fourscore males.

Dan.10.13 - But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

Dan.12.1 - And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

S
The name Michael was in use far before Daniel to mean, ' who is like God or El' No one like God.

I will like you to enlighten us how you make Jesus this Archangel. Just to learn o. No fight.
Truthseeker10: 6:57pm On Feb 20
MightySparrow:


One of the Archangels.


I once in your publications decades ago. I can't really which now. It was said that Michael is interpreted as ' One like God or who God is ' but the scriptures show us many people bearing Michael.


Num.13.13 - Of the tribe of Asher, Sethur the son of Michael.

1Chr.5.13 - And their brethren of the house of their fathers were, Michael, and Meshullam, and Sheba, and Jorai, and Jachan, and Zia, and Heber, seven.

1Chr.5.14 - These are the children of Abihail the son of Huri, the son of Jaroah, the son of Gilead, the son of Michael, the son of Jeshishai, the son of Jahdo, the son of Buz;

1Chr.6.40 - The son of Michael, the son of Baaseiah, the son of Malchiah,
1Chr.7.3 - And the sons of Uzzi; Izrahiah: and the sons of Izrahiah; Michael, and Obadiah, and Joel, Ishiah, five: all of them chief men.

1Chr.12.20 - As he went to Ziklag, there fell to him of Manasseh, Adnah, and Jozabad, and Jediael, and Michael, and Jozabad, and Elihu, and Zilthai, captains of the thousands that were of Manasseh.

1Chr.27.18 - Of Judah, Elihu, one of the brethren of David: of Issachar, Omri the son of Michael:

2Chr.21.2 - And he had brethren the sons of Jehoshaphat, Azariah, and Jehiel, and Zechariah, and Azariah, and Michael, and Shephatiah: all these were the sons of Jehoshaphat king of Israel.

Ezra.8.8 - And of the sons of Shephatiah; Zebadiah the son of Michael, and with him fourscore males.

Dan.10.13 - But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

Dan.12.1 - And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

S
The name Michael was in use far before Daniel to mean, ' who is like God or El' No one like God.

I will like you to enlighten us how you make Jesus this Archangel. Just to learn o. No fight.

What is the Hebrew and Greek word for Archangel, And has it ever been used in the plural form to refer to more than one Archangel?

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Janosky: 8:22pm On Feb 20
Ken4Christ:
The Jehovah Witness asserts that our Lord Jesus is the same person as Angel Michael. This is false. Below are reasons based on scriptures why Jesus cannot be the same person as angle Michael.

1. Jesus is Worshiped, but Angels (Including Michael) Are Not
Hebrews 1:6 – “Let all God’s angels worship him.”
The Bible commands all angels to worship Jesus, which includes Michael if he were an angel. However, only God deserves worship (Matthew 4:10).

Revelation 5:11-14 – Angels, living creatures, and elders worship Jesus, calling Him worthy to receive power and glory.
.

Oga, you contradicted yourself.
grin
Your Trinitarian rendition of Hebrew 1:6 contradicts your quote of Matthew 4:10 ONLY God deserves worship ".
The God to worship ALONE @Matthew 4:10 is NOT Jesus Christ.
The basic meaning of Greek proskuneo is homage, kneeling or prostrate to greet a monarch, Kabiyesi or elderly person. (Screenshot evidence).
@ Hebrew 1:6 God is saying "let angels pay homage to Jesus.

Matthew 4:10.& Mark 12:29 Aramaic Bible.
"Then Yeshua said to him, “Depart Satan, for it is written: 'You shall worship THE LORD JEHOVAH your God and him alone shall you serve"

Revelation 5:11-14, to receive power and glory doesn't equate to worship.
Revelation 5:11-14 didn't teach anyone to worship the Lamb.
Pastor you lied.

grin

Janosky: 8:33pm On Feb 20
Ken4Christ:


2. Jesus is the Son of God, Not an Angel
Hebrews 1:5 – “For to which of the angels did God ever say, ‘You are my Son; today I have begotten you’?”
This verse directly refutes the idea that Jesus is an angel. God never called any angel His begotten Son, but He called Jesus His Son.
John 3:16 – Jesus is called the only begotten Son of God, distinguishing Him from angels.

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Very weak argument of Ken, built on quick sand.
grin grin
The truth in your Bible is Hebrews 1:5 is a copy of Psalms 2:7 & 2 Samuel 7:13-14.
Did 2 Samuel 7:13-14 & Psalm 2:7 exclude Solomon and David from Israelites?
No .
Therefore ,because of Psalms 103:20& Psalms 110:1-2, Jesus Christ is an angel obeying Yahweh's voice and performing Yahweh's word, John 14:24=Psalms 103:20.
Hebrew 5:5 says Hebrew 1:5 meaning that Jesus inherited glory and honor just as King David and Solomon inherited glory above their fellow Israelites .(Hebrew 1:9, Psalms 45:7).
Janosky: 8:51pm On Feb 20
Ken4Christ:

The Jehovah Witness asserts that our Lord Jesus is the same person as Angel Michael. This is false. Below are reasons based on scriptures why Jesus cannot be the same person as angle Michael.
Your fellow Trinitarians believed that Jesus is archangel Michael.
For instance, Martin Luther, your Protestant mentor.
The belief is not exclusive to JW's.
Oga , Stop deceiving yourself.

Ken4Christ:

3. Jesus is the Creator, but Angels Are Created
John 1:1-3 – Jesus is the Word, and “through Him, all things were made.”
Colossians 1:16-17 – “For by Him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible.”
Jesus created all things, including angels. Michael, as an angel, would have been created, meaning he cannot be Jesus.

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Hebrews 1:1-2 agrees with John 1:1-3, God made the universe THROUGH his Son Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ is NOT the First Cause.

You avoided Colossians 1:15, Jesus is first born.
Eve is last born, see the hierarchy in 1 Corinthians 11:3.
She is the woman in 1 Corinthians 11:3.
Oga, stop LYING in a public forum.
MightySparrow: 8:54pm On Feb 20
Truthseeker10:

What is the Hebrew and Greek word for Archangel, And has it ever been used in the plural form to refer to more than one Archangel?

What is your point?
Truthseeker10: 9:10pm On Feb 20
MightySparrow:


What is your point?
Kindly state the Hebrew and Greek word for Archangel. Show us where the Greek and Hebrew word was used in plural in the bible.

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Janosky: 9:13pm On Feb 20
Ken4Christ:


4. Michael is an Angel, But Jesus is God
Hebrews 1:8 – "But of the Son He says, ‘Your throne, O God, is forever and ever.’”
This shows that Jesus is God, not an angel.
.

[b] Hosea 12:3-4,an angel is called 'God' too.
That doesn't make him God Almighty.
Is Hebrew 1:8 copied from Psalms 45:6-7?
Yes.

What did Psalms 45:6-7 say in Hebrew language?
"Your throne is from God/God is your throne".

Pastor is using a false rendition of Hebrew 1:8 to deceive himself and gullible folks.
See the Catholic Church Bible and Hebrews language proof of Psalms 45:6-7.
grin grin


Ken4Christ:

Titus 2:13 – "Our great God and Savior Jesus Christ."
John 20:28 – Thomas calls Jesus "My Lord and my God."
Michael is always called an angel in Scripture, but Jesus is never called an angel. Instead, He is called God.

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When skit makers shout 'oh my God!" in their online videos, are they refering to God Almighty?
No !

Your Bible rendition of John 20:28 ends with exclamation .
Exclamation a statement of evidence of surprise, or incredulity.
Thomas exclaimed because he doubted Christ resurrection.
Your Trinitarian devotees do NOT agree with your fictitious rendition of Titus 2:13.
Paul the apostle started his preaching with Acts 9:20.
Go and . grin
He didn't believe in your faulty rendition of Titus.

MaxInDHouse(m): 9:13pm On Feb 20
MightySparrow:

One of the Archangels.

There is only one Archangel: Michael

But if you don't agree then show me in your KJV where any other angel is referred to as Archangel apart from Michael!

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excanny: 9:51pm On Feb 20
Who then is the Angel of the Lord in the Old Testament?
Janosky: 9:56pm On Feb 20
Ken4Christ:

5[b]. Michael Does Not Have Authority Over Satan, But Jesus Does
Jude 9 – Michael the Archangel says to Satan, "The Lord rebuke you!"[/b]
This shows that Michael does not have the authority to rebuke Satan directly.
Matthew 4:10 – Jesus directly commands Satan, "Be gone, Satan!"
Luke 10:18 – Jesus says, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.”
Jesus has absolute authority over Satan, unlike Michael.
.
LYING pastor, is Revelation 12:7-9 in your Bible?
Archangel Michael defeated Satan because Archangel Michael is Jesus Christ the Promised Seed of Genesis 3:15.
Satan is the original serpent of Genesis 3:15.

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Ken4Christ:

6. Jesus is the King of Kings, But Michael is Just a Chief Prince
Revelation 19:16 – Jesus is called “King of Kings and Lord of Lords.”
Daniel 10:13 – Michael is called one of the chief princes, meaning he is not unique in authority.
Jesus is the sovereign ruler, while Michael is just a leading angel..
LYING pastor, did Revelation 19:14 -16 & 2 Thess 1:7-8 teach you that Jesus the Word is leading angels in battle & victory?
Yes.
Jesus the Archangel Michael is the leader of all angels, indeed the head of all principalities and powers cruising to victory over Satan, Revelation 12:7-9.

Ken4Christ:

7. Jesus Sits at God’s Right Hand, But Angels Do Not
Hebrews 1:13 – “To which of the angels has He ever said, ‘Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet’?”
God never invited an angel to sit at His right hand, but Jesus sits there (Mark 16:19).
This proves Jesus is not an angel but the divine Son of God..
Pastor wey no know him Bible is displaying his ignorance.
grin
Jesus Christ is an angel obeying Yahweh's voice and performing Yahweh's word. Psalms 103:30=John 14:24, Psalms 110:1-2.

Ken4Christ:

8. Jesus Has the Power to Forgive Sins, But Angels Do Not
Mark 2:5-7 – Jesus forgives sins, and the Pharisees say, "Who can forgive sins but God alone?"
Colossians 3:13 – Jesus has the power to forgive sins, proving He is God, not an angel.
No angel, including Michael, has the authority to forgive sins.
.
Pastor wey no know him Bible.
grin grin
Who gave Jesus Christ the command to forgive sins?

Psalms 103:20, Jesus Christ is obeying Yahweh's voice and performing Yahweh's word.
The disciples forgave sins, because Jesus taught them to perform Yahweh's word, Psalms 103:20 & John 7:16.
Janosky: 10:02pm On Feb 20
excanny:
Who then is the Angel of the Lord in the Old Testament?

The Answer is in the screenshots provided by Trinitarians.
Dem no want to the screenshots.
grin grin

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MightySparrow: 10:09pm On Feb 20
MaxInDHouse:


There is only one Archangel: Michael

But if you don't agree then show me in your KJV where any other angel is referred to as Archangel apart from Michael!

That is not what I asked Sir. Read my post again and give answer. Thanks
MightySparrow: 10:11pm On Feb 20
Truthseeker10:

Kindly state the Hebrew and Greek word for Archangel. Show us where the Greek and Hebrew word was used in plural in the bible.

You just cut part of my post and use it to ask question. Read again and honestly, (honestly) answer the question.
MaxInDHouse(m): 10:11pm On Feb 20
MightySparrow:

That is not what I asked Sir. Read my post again and give answer. Thanks

There's nothing to read since you failed to know that there is only one Archangel!

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MightySparrow: 10:14pm On Feb 20
MaxInDHouse:


There's nothing to read since you failed to know that there is only one Archangel!

Are you being honest in this?
Mind you I referred to a particular inference from your publicationsgringringrin
MaxInDHouse(m): 10:20pm On Feb 20
MightySparrow:

Are you being honest in this?
Mind you I referred to a particular inference from your publicationsgringringrin
How many Archangel is mentioned in the Bible?

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MightySparrow: 10:22pm On Feb 20
MaxInDHouse:

How many Archangel is mentioned in the Bible?

One,

So your answer now
MaxInDHouse(m): 10:31pm On Feb 20
MightySparrow:
One of the Archangels.

MightySparrow:

One, So your answer now.

Next time prepare well before you come to engage me in a discussion.

There is only one Archangel or Chief angel who is the commander of all the heavenly armies, he is the same person we know as the angel of God or Michael: Jesus!

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Truthseeker10: 10:46pm On Feb 20
MightySparrow:


You just cut part of my post and use it to ask question. Read again and honestly, (honestly) answer the question.
You claimed Michael is one of the Archangels.

Can you kindly tells us where the Hebrew word or Greek word is used for an Archangel other than Michael or where the Hebrew and Greek word for Archangel is used in plural in the bible?
MightySparrow: 4:41am On Feb 21
MaxInDHouse:




Next time prepare well before you come to engage me in a discussion.

There is only one Archangel or Chief angel who is the commander of all the heavenly armies, he is the same person we know as the angel of God or Michael: Jesus!

It depends, it in KJV you have Michael as the only archangel. In other writs of Hebrews before canonization of the Bible has twelve, Catholic agrees to six or seven. Yet you have not answered my question.

You are still dodging.gringrin


Abi JW's canonized the Bible?
MaxInDHouse(m): 5:18am On Feb 21
MightySparrow:

It depends, it in KJV you have Michael as the only archangel. In other writs of Hebrews before canonization of the Bible has twelve, Catholic agrees to six or seven. Yet you have not answered my question.
You are still dodging.gringrin
Abi JW's canonized the Bible?

Olódo!

Do Catholics agree that you people are true Christians? smiley

Which version do you believe?
You can't be running from pillar to post arguing blindly if you don't have strong conviction on a particular version or what you want to challenge.

So are you challenging Jehovah's Witnesses conviction over Jesus being the Archangel or you want to learn?

There is only one Archangel according to the Bible but if you prefer the Catholic Bible then go and ask your Papa why he is not using the Catholic Bible to teach you before coming to question the faith of another religion with what Catholics say! smiley
MaxInDHouse(m): 5:38am On Feb 21
excanny:

Who then is the Angel of the Lord in the Old Testament?
There are many spirit sons of God or angels in heaven and they are all called "morning stars" {Job 38:7} but one was singled out among the rest as "the bright morning star" {Revelations 22:16} he is called the Arch/Chief angel {Jude 9} this angel always represent God in the Old Testament as the angel of God {Exodus 13:21 compare to Exodus 14:19} but the Bible call other angels as if they all belong to Archangel Michael and Satan being a rebellious spirit son also leads his cohorts who are rebels like him! Revelations 12:7

Whenever God makes any declaration in heaven it's Michael who often es the message to other angels so they all respect him as the voice or word of God {John 1:1 compare to Revelations 19:13} that's why he jumps into action whenever any of his angels have issues with Satan the head of rebels! Daniel 10:13; Jude 9

Salvation of obedient mankind rests on the shoulder of this angel {Daniel 12:3} as he always takes the lead in doing what his father wants and his father has given him the power to raise the dead with just a call! 1Thessalonians 4:16 compare to John 5:28 and 11:43

So it's the same angel that was sent to us as Jesus!
delkuf(m): 11:55am On Feb 21
Janosky:

Your fellow Trinitarians believed that Jesus is archangel Michael.
For instance, Martin Luther, your Protestant mentor.
The belief is not exclusive to JW's.
Oga , Stop deceiving yourself.



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Hebrews 1:1-2 agrees with John 1:1-3, God made the universe THROUGH his Son Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ is NOT the First Cause.

You avoided Colossians 1:15, Jesus is first born.
Eve is last born, see the hierarchy in 1 Corinthians 11:3.
She is the woman in 1 Corinthians 11:3.
Oga, stop LYING in a public forum.
any Christian that believes that the Lord Jesus Christ is an angel that Christian is from the pit of hell
MaxInDHouse(m): 12:10pm On Feb 21
delkuf:

any Christian that the Lord Jesus Christ is an angel that Christian is from the pit of hell

Who are your fellow believers?

You better repent and listen to JWs before it's too late for you! smiley
delkuf(m): 12:12pm On Feb 21
MaxInDHouse:


Who are your fellow believers?

You better repent and listen to JWs before it's too late for you! smiley

that will be last thing. To believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is an angel. That would be the last thing I would believe. So keep your repentance to yourself
MaxInDHouse(m): 12:17pm On Feb 21
delkuf:

that will be last thing. To believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is an angel. That would be the last thing I would believe. So keep your repentance to yourself

That's exactly what a Jew will tell you if you claim Jesus is the Christ.

So enjoy your delusion! smiley
delkuf(m): 12:21pm On Feb 21
MaxInDHouse:


That's exactly what a Jew will tell you if you claim Jesus is the Christ.

So enjoy your delusion! smiley
Jesus is Christ. That is what your master the devil don't want. I believe it and billions of people believe it. No matter how hard you try, you cannot stop this truth. Your master the devil tried and failed

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