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Samantha125:
From muratiwa to motlogolo wa ka... I saw that...

You are fast Kai!

I was shocked seeing that a married man was calling me muratiwa...

Nnamdipapa:


You are fast Kai!

Samantha125:
I was shocked seeing that a married man was calling me muratiwa...

I realized that was a tad bit inappropriate reason I changed asap. Forgive my indescetions, my lady.

Okay...

Nnamdipapa:


I realized that was a tad bit inappropriate reason I changed asap. Forgive my indescetions, my lady.

Samantha125:
Okay...

O ntshiretše?

You do realise that I'm not Sotho, right?😅😅😅

Nnamdipapa:


O ntshiretše?

Samantha125:
You do realise that I'm not Sotho, right?😅😅😅

I thought you are from Northern Sotho?

Strictly business with the opposite sex

Yes, I am, but we usually classify ourselves as Bapedi people because our language and culture is a bit different from the actual Sothos.

That last statement that you made is more common with those other Sothos.

Nnamdipapa:


I thought you are from Northern Sotho?

Samantha125:
Yes, I am, but we usually classify ourselves as Bapedi people because our language and culture is a bit different from the actual Sothos.

That last statement that you made is more common with those other Sothos.

Oh I see. Thanks for letting me know.
So, what's your native language, Tsongo, Venda or Tswana?

Northern Sotho/Sepedi...😅😅😅

I should be asking you questions as a Gambian.

Nnamdipapa:


Oh I see. Thanks for letting me know.
So, what's your native language, Tsongo, Venda or Tswana?

Samantha125:
Northern Sotho/Sepedi...😅😅😅

I should be asking you questions as a Gambian.

Samantha

Yes

Chazzyboy:
Samantha

I have been following the OP post and the advice given

In as much as the temptation is there, let us avoid the generalisations that this reality applies to all women.

As a person who have "retired " from the dating game many years ago, I came across many types of women and i kind of reasonate with the some of the insinuation of the OP. It's not just limited to women but also to men. Its the sunken cost theory. The man has invested so much in a relationship and despite the red flags in the woman, he still wants to power on

The issue there is that before you get a girl to do something for you you must first invest something to make her like you. Hear me out

Most girls from a young age have an idea of the kind of man she wants, the probability of getting this guy in the real world is dependant on the bar or standard she set for herself.

These bars may not all be financial it could be a character,physical trait or mannerisms the guy should have .How most women come to this is a discussion for another day

So when some of these girls see a guy, who has one or some of these traits, they like him and that's what pulls her to them

I see alot of guys say don't treat a girl well and make her do things for you or invest in you. Which girl go send you if you do that.

Even in so called toxic relationships, there is something the guy offers whether its physical or intangible, the girl gets or believes she gets . So if you just want to go out there and want girls to fall over themselves for you without doing your part, you are on a long thing

So back to my opening line, many girls are selfish but there are good ones. It's up to you to find the good ones during the dating time.
When looking for diamonds don't conclude that all rocks are peebles because that's what you have in abundance while searching for your diamond


if a girl likes you ( when you have those features she is consciously or subconsciously attracted to), she would give herself reasons to go above and beyond to please you. Then the theory of the OP may hold sway

However,Some of these girls who get burnt while trying to make a boy love them, are transformed into something else and go out to get their revenge on other "good" guys and the so called good guys after they get burnt by these she-wolf gets turned into another version of themselves take there revenge on another "good girl" and so the chain reaction spreads

This is not the case of everyone but its a plausible theory that's why I avoid generalisations but this is what likely happened to the OP

So in summary to get a girl to do something for you, you must do something or have something to get her interested if not nobody go send you papa

But then i hindsight ,would you want to win the love of someone you claim to care about by manipulation and mind games or would you rather it to come naturally

Hahaha,Hehehe,
women this women that as if some of you weren't given birth to buy a woman.
In 2009 or so I have forgotten a contest was held in the united States whereby different men were asked to write what men know about women with real life proofs and examples, the winner was the person that submitted a book of blank pages.

From the beginning according to holy books the first woman was created when the first man was asleep,so how exactly will a man ever understand a woman.

Throughout history all the advice of wise men gave about women can be summarise into this. "Do not rely on a woman 100% but at the same time respect them most especially your mother and those whom she trusted amongst her women folk" Your capacity to merge the trust and respect given to the deserving women in your journey of life defines your intellectual capacity and subsequent success in life.

The fact that you as a man adjusting your life to suit the way women think shows that you are already defeated by women.


Just like guys said up there be who you are and whenever you are dealing with a woman also make sure you calculated ahead and be ready for all possible consequences

Samantha125:
Yes

can we wed on nairaland?

You're right 👍

tuoyoojo:
I have been following the OP post and the advice given

In as much as the temptation is there, let us avoid the generalisations that this reality applies to all women.

As a person who have "retired " from the dating game many years ago, I came across many types of women and i kind of reasonate with the some of the insinuation of the OP. It's not just limited to women but also to men. Its the sunken cost theory. The man has invested so much in a relationship and despite the red flags in the woman, he still wants to power on

The issue there is that before you get a girl to do something for you you must first invest something to make her like you. Hear me out

Most girls from a young age have an idea of the kind of man she wants, the probability of getting this guy in the real world is dependant on the bar or standard she set for herself.

These bars may not all be financial it could be a character,physical trait or mannerisms the guy should have .How most women come to this is a discussion for another day

So when some of these girls see a guy, who has one or some of these traits, they like him and that's what pulls her to them

I see alot of guys say don't treat a girl well and make her do things for you or invest in you. Which girl go send you if you do that.

Even in so called toxic relationships, there is something the guy offers whether its physical or intangible, the girl gets or believes she gets . So if you just want to go out there and want girls to fall over themselves for you without doing your part, you are on a long thing

So back to my opening line, many girls are selfish but there are good ones. It's up to you to find the good ones during the dating time.
When looking for diamonds don't conclude that all rocks are peebles because that's what you have in abundance while searching for your diamond


if a girl likes you ( when you have those features she is consciously or subconsciously attracted to), she would give herself reasons to go above and beyond to please you. Then the theory of the OP may hold sway

However,Some of these girls who get burnt while trying to make a boy love them, are transformed into something else and go out to get their revenge on other "good" guys and the so called good guys after they get burnt by these she-wolf gets turned into another version of themselves take there revenge on another "good girl" and so the chain reaction spreads

This is not the case of everyone but its a plausible theory that's why I avoid generalisations but this is what likely happened to the OP

So in summary to get a girl to do something for you, you must do something or have something to get her interested if not nobody go send you papa

But then i hindsight ,would you want to win the love of someone you claim to care about by manipulation and mind games or would you rather it to come naturally

@ bolded. Women dont know what they want
If you wait till she falls in love and let everything happen naturally
She willbe confused and out of that uncertinty. She will distance herself from you with words like " i need to figure it out, let me think about it" and so on.

I think the most effective way to win a woman is like a cowboy trying to win over a horse.
If the cowboy wait for the horse to approach him or like him naturally he go wait forever.
But if he uses cowboy tricks very well he will get the horse and with time the horse will form a deep bond with him.
Me thinks this is how women works.
Women cant make good decisions
You have to trick them to choose you. If you wait for her to decide or for her to fall in love with you naturally. You go wait tire

Women will vote an evil politician that is handsome and sexy
Instead of choosing the ugly guy with great leadership skills.

Dating, marriage are huge on decision making.
When it comes to decision making
Majority of women dont know what they want.
So you as a man have to trick and manipulate her to make the decision you want.

Hmmmmmmm,

RollinTNDA:
Very True!! But my question is

What things should we make women do for us that will make her think of us.

Really interesting topic

give her belle and dump her e go pain her

EmperorIsaac:

The first one sent 3 voice notes to say she cannot speak for other ladies, but for her, she's not like that. She now added that ladies can actually be generally focused only on what they want from men in of materialism. She now ended it by asking why all this? I smiled in my heart in 3D!

The second said, and I quote: "...even me I don't know what women want....I don't know what I want even as a woman..."

The second sounds a little bit more genuine because I had told her I have someone else so no hope with me.

Pukkalolo is right

Women are naturally selfish....they want and want from you

Imagine when that kind of person now dash out something to you willingly...you def mean a lot to her

Meanwhile, women don't really know themselves...they look into the mirror and immediately forgets how they look....

It's left for a man to study them so well and watch his back...I repeat pray and watch your back with women you are with....cos they aren't stable


A woman can love you and still kill you...

Thanks

RollinTNDA:
From my personal experience

I witnessed this in December 2024
A girl who was my neigbour i have crush on her. But it end with Hi and Hello. We didnt talk with each other

Im a chemist, so one night this girl came knocking loud on my door.
I peep window see say na she dey knock. As i open door i see her holding her stomach and wrething in pain. She said her stomach feels locked she is constipated and it giving her serious pains

As a chemist, i took into action
Took my shop key and use leg to trek in midnight to my shop to get her constipation drug.
In the process vigilante boys stop me threatning to matchete me if i run. Omo that night mad

After explaining to them they extorted me and let me go.
I came back and there she was in pains.
I istered drugs to her for free
And that drug was really expensive
But no wahala i took it and gave her for free...SMH

The next morning she came by to thank me for saving her life.
Mumu me was blushing and i told her if we date she wont spend a dime on medication. We laughed

That evenning we hang out and i told her my mind that i like her.
I ended up telling her some personal secrets about me ( WORST MISTAKE EVER) We talked about the future and so on..

Long story short
She played me like ronaldinho
Then exposed my secrets to everyone in that compound!!!
Telling them that i smoke weed

The girl finished my reputation
I was regretting why i even helped her and risk my life that night going to get drug for her.

The way i see girls now, hmmmm
Make Elon musk create female robot for men. Cause these modern day women will soon end up alone.

Nobody want to marry problem!!

Comrade, this is not a "modern woman" phenomenon. It's a woman phenomenon, as in it's a 'constant' of female nature.

Women do not have a sense of honor, so sharing your secret with a woman and expecting her to honor your secret is, frankly, an unwise action. Women are also selfish by nature, meaning they will grasp their own secrets closely to their chests, but any other secret is sweet gist/gossip material - and if you knew how 'sweet' these 'gists' are to them...
This is also the reason women would likely rather confide in a (non-judgmental) man than her fellow woman (who is not her partner-in-crime).

One of your strongest suits as a man is mystery. When you are, in certain ways, mysterious, women can't size you up, so they can't be sure of the consequences that will fall on their heads if they misbehave. But if they've gauged you properly or in other words if they've seen you finish they know what you can and CAN'T do when they start following their whims at your expense.

When you, a man, went out of your way to help her, a woman, just like that, she had already classified you as weak/gullible in her mind. And yes, every woman 'classifies'.
You had already initiated see finish by your own hand, with the journey to your store, free medicine and indulgence of personal info.

And one last thing, your journey was not from the goodness of your heart or altruism. If it was a man you very likely wouldn't have done that (with free, expensive medicine on top) - if you think about that honestly, that's simping - helping just because it's a woman.

Pukkalolo:



You ask a very good question, but the only issue is that you phrased it the wrong way.

Here’s what I mean:

It’s not necessarily about what specific "thing" she does for you. It’s more about how much emotional cost or value she places on those things she does for you.

For example:

If Aliko Dangote donates 1M naira to a charity…

And a random broke guy donates his last 50k naira to the same charity…


Who donated more?

Logically, Aliko Dangote donated more.
But emotionally, the broke guy donated more—because it cost him more.

So, I’d rephrase your question as:

“How do I make a woman do things for me in a way that costs her more emotionally—so she feels truly invested?”

I’ll probably create a new thread to answer that question properly...because it’s going to be a long one

Please do...I'm curious.

Only a mumu de help nigerian girls

Pukkalolo:
When you do a favor for a girl or give her nice things, she might say, “Aww, thank you,” or even seem very appreciative.

Some might even call you a “real man”... Duh!

But that’s where it ends in her heart. I learned this the hard way

The bitter truth: Women don’t genuinely value what you do for them.

And that’s the basic thing most men don’t realize: You don’t win a woman’s heart by doing things for her. You win her heart by making her do things for you.

Women don’t care how much you’ve done for them. Women are naturally selfish by nature.

Empty your bank for her?

Donate one of your kidneys to her?

Sacrifice your life for her?


SHE DOESN’T CARE.

The only thing she cares about is how much she has done for you.

This is why, if you try to break up with a girl who has done a lot for you, she says things like:

“So after everything I’ve done for you?”

That’s all she cares about—what she did for you.

All you did for her doesn’t count. It’s what she did for you that matters.

If you threaten to break up with a girl and she doesn’t seem to care, it doesn’t necessarily mean she has other guys she can easily jump to.

It simply means she has done nothing significant for you in the relationship—so she has nothing to lose.

Guys often ask me, “How can I get a girl to think about me?”

My answer:

Women don’t think about you. They think about what they’ve done for you. If you get her to do things for you, she will think about you all day.

If a girl claims she loves you but has done nothing significant for you, then it’s not genuine love. She just wants to exploit you or manipulate you.

Women don’t fall in love with you—they fall in love with their investment in you.

If you want a girl to genuinely fall in love with you, get her to do things for you. Make her invest in the interaction and the relationship.

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RollinTNDA:

@ bolded. Women dont know what they want
If you wait till she falls in love and let everything happen naturally
She willbe confused and out of that uncertinty. She will distance herself from you with words like " i need to figure it out, let me think about it" and so on.

I think the most effective way to win a woman is like a cowboy trying to win over a horse.
If the cowboy wait for the horse to approach him or like him naturally he go wait forever.
But if he uses cowboy tricks very well he will get the horse and with time the horse will form a deep bond with him.
Me thinks this is how women works.
Women cant make good decisions
You have to trick them to choose you. If you wait for her to decide or for her to fall in love with you naturally. You go wait tire

Women will vote an evil politician that is handsome and sexy
Instead of choosing the ugly guy with great leadership skills.

Dating, marriage are huge on decision making.
When it comes to decision making
Majority of women dont know what they want.
So you as a man have to trick and manipulate her to make the decision you want.

This manipulative method of getting a woman may work in short term relationship but for middle and long term relationship, it may not be effective

When one gets older, say 40s and 50s, your priorities would have shifted, you would then realise how insignificant the ego of "conquering" a woman via manipulative tendencies are

It may not make sense to you but then it would

RollinTNDA:

Looking back at that incident in 3D
I was too Nice to her and it backfired so badly..
Forget about the life saving incident
Lets focus on what happened after that.
We got to hangout after that incident. As a guy i took her out and ate and talked. During the discussion
From her own mouth she said

" i like guys that are very honest with me, if you smoke tell me you smoke, if you drink tell me u drink if you womanize tell me instead of hiding it from me. I dont respect a man that will hide and do those things and cover it up"

Now mumu me was blushing like Sabinus, telling her that im a very honest guy. That infact im brutally honest. All of a sudden i began to tell her my secrets to prove that im a very honest guy..SMH

The girl was just giving me adlibs like migos.. Oh wow, seriously, OMG and mumu me was just rapping and exposing things that my family dont even know about.

And she was gaslighting me to tell her more...

Seeing the whole thing backfire to the point neigbours heard about it and it was like the whole compound began to See me finish.
Bro it felt like a real stab to the heart and it changed me for life.
The way i view women now
It will take 10000 years for me to go back to being a nice guy i was last year.

🤣🤣🤣

Starz825:


Pukkalolo is right

Women are naturally selfish....they want and want from you

Imagine when that kind of person now dash out something to you willingly...you def mean a lot to her

Meanwhile, women don't really know themselves...they look into the mirror and immediately forgets how they look....

It's left for a man to study them so well and watch his back...I repeat pray and watch your back with women you are with....cos they aren't stable


A woman can love you and still kill you...

Thanks

@bolded. That's very correct 💯.

This is why it's important that a Man is bold and very masculine when dealing with women.

He should never play in to women emotional mind games.

RollinTNDA:

Looking back at that incident in 3D
I was too Nice to her and it backfired so badly..
Forget about the life saving incident
Lets focus on what happened after that.
We got to hangout after that incident. As a guy i took her out and ate and talked. During the discussion
From her own mouth she said

" i like guys that are very honest with me, if you smoke tell me you smoke, if you drink tell me u drink if you womanize tell me instead of hiding it from me. I dont respect a man that will hide and do those things and cover it up"

Now mumu me was blushing like Sabinus, telling her that im a very honest guy. That infact im brutally honest. All of a sudden i began to tell her my secrets to prove that im a very honest guy..SMH

The girl was just giving me adlibs like migos.. Oh wow, seriously, OMG and mumu me was just rapping and exposing things that my family dont even know about.

And she was gaslighting me to tell her more...

Seeing the whole thing backfire to the point neigbours heard about it and it was like the whole compound began to See me finish.
Bro it felt like a real stab to the heart and it changed me for life.
The way i view women now
It will take 10000 years for me to go back to being a nice guy i was last year.

I have to it...you’re a genuine guy with a good heart. But not every girl deserves that good heart of yours.

The problem isn’t necessarily that you were nice to her; the real issue is that you were nice to someone who didn’t deserve it.

In other words, you were kind to a girl who hadn’t done anything to earn it.

It’s great to be a good person, but be selective about who you’re kind to. A woman should earn that side of you...don’t give it away freely.

Odebayo4010:


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Feel free to Send me PM or message through my s in my profile let's talk better.

Maitunbi:

It was too early to be vulnerable with someone you just met. Vulnerability works better when the friendship has started..not before.

That's a fact bro.

The goal isn’t to be vulnerable to her—it’s to make her vulnerable to you. That way, you stay in control.