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Steep:
Intelligence cannot come from non Intelligence, life cannot come from non life. This is the delima of naturalists.
The order and design of the universe plus the existence of life shows there is a living immaterial, spaceless and timeless personal being called God.

If intelligence cannot come from non intelligence and life cannot come from non life whence comes your god? (sp)

BibleInterpreta:

They are usually the loudest. I began to recognize them, the same characters, over and over. Not names. Types. Archetypes. Personas wearing human faces but driven by algorithms of ego, ignorance, and contrarian fuel.
They were everywhere.
They weren’t just wrong. They were confidently wrong.
And disturbingly… they were convincing to many.
But let’s rewind. Let’s take them one by one.
Know Your Goal: Influence the Bystanders, Not Win the Argument
You're not trying to "win" the troll over, you’re modeling clarity for the truth-seekers watching.

🤡

BibleInterpreta:

You can’t out-comment them.
You can’t out-volume them.
You can out-think them.

Tactical Suggestions:

Spot the Archetype Early: Notice their patterns.
Does someone dismiss facts outright (belief perseverance)?
Are they overly confident yet very ignorant (Dunning-Kruger)?
Are they arguing just to argue (contrarian)?
They thrive on reactions. Starve them by focusing on substantive points.
And if you don’t speak up, the silent majority hears only one side.
Refuse emotional baiting.
And most importantly: don’t let the noise break your own clarity.

😄 Guess i brought out the kuKu 🤡

BibleInterpreta:

Social Media Comment Section Is Where Intelligence Goes To Die
Have you encountered any of these personas on social media?" - especially to provoke thought or spark replies:
Dunning-Kruger Disciple
Belief Perseverance Poster
Contrarian Disorder Commenter
Drop your most unforgettable encounter 👇

Its funny how fast the patronizing nice guy act turns into snarky condescending ad hominems once the baseless assertions are shown up for the absolute undemonstrable nonsense they are. Predictable yet never fails to make me laugh. At least there was one demonstration for the so called "quiet ones" watching. 😅

P.S He even had to edit and change the comment to make it more snarky. Dude was like this one aint mean enough.😄

BibleInterpreta:

Your demand for ‘objective evidence’ ignores the fact that objectivity itself is a construct of the observer’s development - Einstein
You are wrong to assume evidence is only what your current perception can grasp.

Ever spent time on Nairaland or social media and felt like the same types of people show up in every argument? That’s because they do.
Dunning-Kruger Disciple: The super confident guy who talks like an expert but clearly doesn’t understand what he’s saying.
Then there’s the Belief Perseverance Poster: One who sticks to false info no matter how many facts you show them, and the Contrarian Disorder Commenter: The always-opposite dude who disagrees just to stand out. These kinds of people aren’t just annoying, they confuse others, spread lies, and make real conversations harder. The best thing you can do? Spot them early, don’t fall for the bait, and always speak clearly so others, the quiet ones watching, can see what makes sense.

The irony is just too frigging loud and funny, like quoting Einstein while denying the very objectivity that made his work revolutionary. Objectivity isn’t a vibe you “develop,” it’s the standard by which claims/assertions are tested regardless of who's observing. Your method isn’t reproducible, unless you count repeating vague feelings and calling them data. Even your fellow religious peope all over this thread have called you out for spouting nonsense confidently and yet you stuck with it. Talk about irony.

And funny how you pivot to diagnosing me with internet personality disorders, as if projection counts as argument. I'm not here to impress the “quiet ones watching”, I’m here to call out nonsense for what it is. Nonsense asserted as facts by lieing, dishonest, disngenious and confused people Who claim to know what they're saying by spouting absolute dross like the "bible precedes religion". Someone who isn't thinking wouldn't even say something that dumb but yet... Frigging irony.

Still waiting on one just one claim that's testable beyond your own imagination. Even the schizophrenic have a vivid imagination to come up with undemonstratable and unerifiable nonsense. You ain't special. There's a reason u've got nothing but vague empty noise. It's undemonstrable nonsense 😌.

Ogamysamo:


I use WhatsApp AI to generate idea and prompts to come up with something, sometimes go to AI chat for elaboration and then I do the final editing and fine tooning

IMO it's the one of the worst.

BibleInterpreta:

I am not giving you riddles, I am handing you the entrance to a method that will train your perception to see the universal laws governing soul, society, and creation itself.

In science, we don’t ask the microscope to explain itself, we learn to use it. You are not asked to believe. You are asked to apply the method and measure the result:
Do you experience increased connection, clarity, inner cohesion, perception of the universal system?
If yes, continue.
If no, discard it.

That is the only honest methodology, and it is what the bible meant by 'Taste and see that the Creator is good,' not believe, but taste. Experience. Test.

Objectivity Itself Evolves

Your demand for ‘objective evidence’ ignores the fact that objectivity itself is a construct of the observer’s development - Einstein

You are in the dream. I’m showing you the method to wake up, not to argue inside the dream.

The ‘testable claim’ you seek is you yourself. The method develops a person’s ability to perceive the higher forces that operate desire, not philosophically, but in a repeatable, observable way within the person’s corrected vessels of perception. That is the methodology. It is ancient (since 5,785 years ago), tested, documented, and reproducible, but it requires using you egoistic desire with the intention to bestow toward people, just as a microscope requires calibration before it reveals microorganisms.


Noteworthy

You are not wrong to ask for evidence.

You are wrong to assume evidence is only what your current perception can grasp.

I offer a reproducible methodology to expand perception.

If you apply it, the evidence will emerge within you - not as belief, but as transformation.

Don’t believe me, try it. If it’s false, you’ll know. If it’s true, you’ll know even more.

What you actually need is a dictionary. Your so called “reproducible methodology” is entirely subjective, personal experience isn't and is never a substitute for objective evidence when dealing with truth. Truth isn’t whatever you feel after meditating hard enough. It’s objective. Look it up.

Aremson14:
Vibe coding is perfect for building solutions that already exist it’s just an LLM. I think the impact would be felt more for frontend devs cause most people just need basic frontend solutions, however if ur building something new using ai is a pandora box. I working on something sometime in the past I already came up with a reasonable solution I understood. I tried copilot for the problem and spilled something that looked reasonable and worked, however, when I started scaling the solution I started experiencing crazy bugs, started to review the code and realized it was rubbish designed to look right. I had to pull out the whole copilot generated code and started from scratch

Summed up perfectly.

I just completed a project for a client(restaurant in Philly) to improve and automate their workflow using python and code.gs in App scripts which i know absolutely nothing about, normally use R and little bit of css and html. Helped me out from start to finish even with the whole debugging process to set it up and client was happy. So yeah it helps out and been helping out peeps from inception despite it's fuckup sometimes which you're able to spot if you know the particular language.

BibleInterpreta:

Instead of repeating accusations, perform the inner experiment. Use your egoistic desire with the right intention of love toward people. Do it consistently. The changes in your perception, your inner reactions, will be your data points.

And right on cue, the classic Christian ritual chant of vague, self important fluff, dressed up as depth once the circus tent collapses, u guys sure love ur fluff. No evidence, no objectivity, just the usual empty mantras and typical baseless claims. A flawless textbook demonstration of exactly what I called out. 👏 Welldone.

BibleInterpreta:

Since you don't seem to understand what it means that you can never perceive reality beyond your degree of qualitative development, I would like to ask you a very simple none spiritual question.

What scale of technology are we utilizing currently as a global entity?

Your ability or inability to answer this very simple question may help you to grasp what Einstein is trying to say in his theory of relativity.

There’s nothing to “grasp” because the statement makes no actual sense especially in relation to Einstein, whose theory you still haven’t demonstrated relates to your gish gallop. Einstein's theory we know, what it objectively means we know, how it relates to objective reality we know, it's relationship to your subjective gish gallop we don't know.

And this so called “biblical methodology” you keep name dropping collapses under its own contradiction: you claim objectivity, yet everything you say basically boils down to vague, subjective interpretation wrapped in pseudo-philosophical fluff.

Last I checked, I asked for evidence, not riddles. Tossing out questions like that somehow goes anywhere, when it’s just a distraction from the fact that you can’t demonstrate a single testable claim and would rather strawman and lie. So spare me the mystical quizzes and just do what you’ve consistently avoided:

Show me the Objective evidence/methodology. Quite simple really but we both no you can't.

agabaI23:
The day you will encounter him, your tone will change.

What you said is just what you wish it to be. Facts cannot change from being facts just because someone disputes it.

🤣 Joke of the century, who demonstrated ur "holy spirit" as fact or you don't know the meaning of fact. Stop the delusional cap abeg.

BibleInterpreta:

1. On the Ease of Making Claims vs. Demonstrating Them
"Lol making claims is quite easy, anyone can say any crap..."

Yes, anyone can make claims, we live in a world filled with voices, opinions, and egoistic noise. But bible Interpretation is not about claiming or debating for intellectual sport. It is about personal transformation and attainment. Demonstration, in our method, means internal experience through corrected perception, not performance for entertainment.

2. On the Einstein Theory of Relativity Being "Rubbish"
"...your Einstein theory of relativity, its nonsense..."

Whether you accept it or not, Einstein’s theory, like quantum mechanics, shattered the illusion of a deterministic, mechanical universe. It introduced relativity, uncertainty, and the impact of the observer. These are all ideas bible Interpretation has addressed for millennia; that the observer’s degree of qualitative development defines the reality he perceives. Science is slowly approaching this: reality is subjective, and rooted in perception.

You dismiss relativity as “nonsense” and challenge me to demonstrate it. Einstein’s theory (special and general relativity) is a cornerstone of modern physics, experimentally validated through:
• GPS Systems: Clocks on satellites tick slightly faster than on Earth due to weaker gravity, as predicted by general relativity.
• Gravitational Lensing: Light from distant stars bends around massive objects like the sun, observed during solar eclipses (e.g., Eddington’s 1919 experiment).
• Time Dilation: Particle accelerators show that fast-moving particles (e.g., muons) decay more slowly, aligning with special relativity’s predictions.
I can’t personally replicate these experiments in a conversation, but they’re well-documented in peer-reviewed literature. If you reject relativity outright, could you clarify which aspect you find implausible?

3. On the Alleged Contradiction Between the Bible and Science
"...no contradiction between the bible and scientific s..."

There is no contradiction because the bible speaks in the language of the branches, not physical history. The Bible is not a science textbook. It is encoded in the language of the branches, describing spiritual states. Science studies the material branch, while bible decodes the spiritual root. Without this lens, yes, the stories seem mythological. But through attaining appropriate perception, they are deep spiritual truths.

4. On the “Sun Standing Still”
"...how did the sun stand still... demonstrate how..."

When the Book of Joshua says the sun stood still, it's not discussing astrophysics. The “sun” in bible symbolizes the ego’s governing force or illumination. “Standing still” represents a halting of spiritual concealment — allowing for inner work of correction of the ego to take place. This event occurred not in the sky, but in the inner world of the soul. You cannot “demonstrate” that with corporeal instruments, only attain it within through spiritual development.

5. On Objectivity and the “Three Outcomes”
"...there's 3 outcomes as regards your response..."

You're expecting a response that fits one of your predetermined categories: dodge, faith-talk, or pseudo-science. I offer none. I invite experience, the only honest test. bible Interpretation is not a belief system. It’s a methodology. If you want objectivity, don’t rely on baseless argument. Use the tools of using your ego with the intention of love. Walk the path (guided by a Teacher). Then you will not need to believe me or mock me. You’ll see it yourself, as all true Saints have done.

Noteworthy

Mockery is easy. Sincere inquiry is difficult. But I understand your frustration. I am a rational scientist, seeking proof. Bible Interpretation does not demand belief, it offers a way to transform your perception of reality, and that is the only true demonstration that matters.
If you're ever ready, the door is open.

Regurgitating trash doesn't change it from being trash 😌

Lucifyre:


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Your so called “bible methodology,” if we can even call it that, is basically: 1. Redefine ,  2. Make up unvalidated bs abd replace facts with subjective feelings, 3. Call yourself deep when cornered. And let’s be honest, saying “the sun stood still” actually means “the ego paused for inner work” is the theological equivalent of a “flat earther explaining gravity with vibes”.

The icing on the cake of  baseless unverifiable claims used as evidence for baseless claims? Slipping in the idea that the Bible prefigured modern science because symbolism. It's like claiming medieval alchemists invented the periodic table because they mentioned ‘fire’ and ‘air.’ Come on, when would you guys ever learn the diff btw "claim" and "evidence".

You couldn't demonstrate a single objective claim, so you rebrand internal feelings as “proof” and package it as transformation. That’s not evidence, it’s delusion verified by vibes. Forget walking the path with your favorite delusional guru, I’d be impressed if you could even drag yourself to a single claim that’s objective, evidence based, and doesn’t evaporate on with reality. There's no need for me "to make a mockery of u guys" or your book, u guys do it just fine on your own, case in point your OT and this joke of a response.

BibleInterpreta:

Ah, the classic bait and switch: I ask for evidence, and you supply crappy metaphors. I point out contradictions, and suddenly like magic it’s all symbolic 😅. I call out pseudo-science, and now the Bible’s apparently been doing quantum mechanics since Genesis. Incredible!

You’ve done exactly what I predicted, that you’d 1. strawman the point, 2. defend a baseless claim with an even more ridiculous one, and veer into abstract rambling like a native doctor meandering for time. You basically offered mystical dodge wrapped in absolute jargon. The only outcome you didn’t hit was walking away, honestly it would've have been better that whatever this is.

I quite obviously did not “deride Einstein’s theory”, I derided your laughable misuse of it. You slapped his name onto a vague spiritual, pseudo - philosophical nonsense and tried to it off as depth which again is laughable. That’s not physics, it’s outright fiction, fiction which you obviously can't demonstrate ergo had to strawman.

Quoting relativity to justify metaphysical ego gymnastics is like using quantum mechanics to validate horoscopes. It’s like slapping a nafdac no on agbo jedi jedi and calling it pharmaceutically tested and approved...

BibleInterpreta:

If you understand Einstein’s Theory of Relativity, then you will grasp my statement: "No one is capable of understanding reality beyond their degree of qualitative development."
In addition, there is no contradiction between the bible and the scientific s of reality. Each offers insights into different dimensions of reality, the spiritual and the physical, and together they provide a more comprehensive understanding of our reality.
Here is a good example 👉https://nairaland.macsoftware.info/8428941/q-genesis-creation--contradicts

Lol making claims is quite easy, anyone can say any crap, demonstrating claims on the other hand is something i could bet a thousand dollars you couldn't do for any of the claims u've made so far ergo the beating around the bush and tangents. As for your Einstien fluff, its nonsense, it's a rubbish claim like i already said and like i also said I bet a thousand dollars you couldn't demonstrate if your life depended on it.

Empty claims is all, it's why the claims are never taken seriously in reality, that's aside from the hilarious fact that those who even believe these claims can't come to any objective conclusion. Same with your no contradiction between the bible and scientific s. Sometimes i don't know if you guys are been facetious or just outright delusional.

Anyway humor me, how did the sun stand still, demonstrate how the sun stood still since no contradiction btw science and your texts. Tick tock! There's 3 outcomes as regards your response and it's the same outcome everytime with u guys, so tick tock. 😌

BibleInterpreta:

If you understand Einstein’s Theory of Relativity, then you will grasp my statement: "No one is capable of understanding reality beyond their degree of qualitative development."

Dont know why my comment was deleted. Anyways see attached SS.

BibleInterpreta:

You dismissed my statement "No one is capable of understanding reality beyond his degree of qualitative development." as "Typical empty vague platitiudes. Boring"🥱

Are you not aware of Einstein’s Theory of Relativity?

And how is that your biblical interpretation methodology.

BibleInterpreta:

You have not yet presented what you refer to as the 'objective truth.' I am eager to learn from your depth of knowledge. I am well-versed in science, so where applicable, please present the scientific evidence that may your argument. I would like to understand your perspective and worldview. Feel free to go as deep as you like—I am up to the task.

Nah you're not, if you were you wouldn't assert "the bible precedes religion" an absurd claim u've failed to demonstrate and doesn't even logically make sense to begin with. Can a car precede driving a car or a pen precede writing with a pen. Makes no sense. Neither would you claim there's some biblical interpretation methodology, which would need to be objective in the first place and is quite ironic considering your topic about denominations showing there's obviously none, if not everyone would be aware of it and adhere to it.

Anyways I'd indulge you. "Objective truth refers to facts or realities that exist independently of personal beliefs, opinions, or perceptions. It can be verified and confirmed through evidence, making it universally true regardless of individual viewpoints". Now what is this biblical interpretation methodology and how did the bible precede religion.

BibleInterpreta:

Lucifyre, you seem to wield words like weapons

Truth is not a slippery slope truth is truth. Any opinion asserted as a fact especially one that's dishonest, disingenuous and an outright lie when investigated, should be called out for what it is, no sentiments. It's an irritating thing to do and an insult on the intelligence of the ones presented with said opinion. And it's no surprise this is done mostly by those from dogmatic backgrounds, where nothing, even authority is questioned and everything is bought hook, line and sinker.

There's nothing wrong with stating your opinion or world view and leaving it at that but to then assert and insist upon it as factual through mental gymnastics when presented with actual facts and evidence is disingenuous and outright disgusting. Example, how can u outrightly state the bible precedes religion or that there's a known methodology for objective interpretation of the bible and then go on vague platitudes and tangents cause even you know it's an empty assertion and then expect to be applauded, nah!

As for your attempt at a tangent and been patronizing I can only chuckle. It's an anonymous forum for a reason.

SAMBARRY:


As much as I find her request ridiculous and distasteful, I like the way men are fully getting a taste of their medicine and being mirrored so that they will know how they sound and have a 1st hand experience of how women feel when they say they want another woman or bring in another woman

When you have been begging, praying and hoping for a person to change and act right and they don't act right, start mirroring their behaviour so that they will understand the law of cause and effect since research shows that men don't understand words,they understand actions better


P.S: I know the culprits will come to my mention to cry me a river.be my guest

Do you know mirroring one's actions is the quickest way to piss em off. Like generational pissed off, noticed this a while ago. Guess it's cause they don't like what they see in the mirror, a dissonance of sorts.

Truthseeker10:
is there a scientific proof that good and evil exists? Do you believe that they exist?

It seems you've skipped ur meds and escaped ur chains this evening, let me help you out and place you were you belong with the likes of truth speaker using the block button. 😁

BibleInterpreta:

Wisdom is chasing after you but you have always been faster.

No wisdom is found in subjective, baseless and contradictory claims disguised as truth.

BibleInterpreta:

No one is capable of understanding reality beyond his degree of qualitative development.

Typical empty vague platitiudes. Boring 🥱

BibleInterpreta:

Your comment reflects a misunderstanding of the spiritual principles I teach, which are rooted in Bible Interpretation, not in any religious dogma or personal claim to authority. The Creator (YHWH) is not an "author of confusion" but the singular force of absolute unity and bestowal. Confusion arises not from the Creator but from humanity’s fragmented perception of reality, driven by the egoistic desire to receive for oneself alone.

Bible Interpretation does not deal in "word salads" but in precise, experiential methods to transcend spiritual ignorance, defined as disconnection from the unified reality, and attain knowledge, which is the revelation of the Creator’s oneness. No one, including myself, arbitrarily determines what is "right." Truth is not a matter of personal interpretation or magic; it is revealed through the correction of one’s intentions from egoism to altruism, aligning with the Creator’s nature.

If you find this lacking substance, I invite you to explore Bible Interpretation’s methodology yourself. The circus, as you call it, is not in the pursuit of truth but in dismissing it without investigation. Let’s discuss specifics; what exactly do you find meaningless, and why?

There is no "Bible Interpretation Methodology", there's no objectivity ergo your topic. Truth especially as touches on reality is not subjective, it is objective, truth is observable, truth is demonstratable even if not observable, truth has evidence, truth has an objective methodology to determine it, truth is non- contradictory. None of these apply to your biblical truths especially the extraordinary claims.

BibleInterpreta:

The core principle of the Bible is: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”
Love predates all religions. And by love, I mean the intention, not just the action. Actions of love without the intention of love are mere hypocrisy.

Love been taught by the bible does not make the bible predate religion what kind of absurd logic is that. Also its not like the bible is the first to teach about love, there are numerous religions way older than xtainity with their texts way older than the bible that teach love. So what are we saying. Saying the bible predates religion beacuse a phenomenon it teaches - which others have taught before it - predates religion makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Does the Vedas and Dhammapada predate religion too?! Absurd to say the least.

BibleInterpreta:

The Bible is deliberately written in the language of the branches to ensure that one who has not attained the spiritual degree of the bible language of spiritual actions would not be able to interpret it. There are far too many ignorant, mental-assent Bible preachers and general overseers producing equally ignorant followers.

Quietly itting with your regurgitated word salad that Yhwh is the origin and author of confusion in xtainity is quite laughable. Who determines who's ignorant and knowledgeable?! Almighty You?! The interpretation you follow just magically happened to be the right one. Determined how, lol?! Circus indeed. Like i said regurgitated word salad, no meaning, no substance in reality.

BibleInterpreta:

Context is everything. You refer to the written Bible, while I mean its core principles before they were recorded. These were shared orally across generations.

And thats not even useful context. Because in what ever way, shape or form it was transmitted even orally, religions were already existing thousands of years before even the people that shared these "core principles" orally. Still an outright blatant lie.

BibleInterpreta:

The bible predates religion. When the bible is properly interpreted, it transcends religion, time, or race.

What kind of outright lie is this. The bible predates religion yet there are religions that are in fact older than the bible and even the Israelites. Na wa.