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shoodboi2:


Palestine is not seeking for independence. They want Israel to give them part of the land Israel stole.

As for the Palestinian authority, no one rates them. They are corrupt and frolick with the west. They cannot even stop Israel from stealing land in the West Bank under their control.

Lastly, Hamas and other resistance group will together form the government, military, police, and intelligence agencies. What you think about it is irrelevant.

Stole? The UN resolution rightly divided the land. Gave the Arabs the majority. The Jews declared a state. The Arabs declared war and lost terribly. They lost lands in those wars.


They struck again and again they lost lands notably the Gaza strip and the west bank.


So how did Israel steal lands?

Hamas will not be there to see that happen. The disarmament of Hamas is key to the Palestinians ever getting a state. The Palestinian authority though may form part of any government that may rule the Palestinians.

Empiree:
Don't worry buddy. Your position is somewhat fair than your ally above. You see what he or she just said above?. That the state of Palestine will never happen. That is exactly the position of Israel. They don't want Palestinian statehood, period. So who is the aggressor?. Who doesn't want peace?. Your eyes seems to clear gradually.

Israel wants the entire region including south Lebanon, part of Jordan, part of Egypt, part of Saudi, Iraq and Syria because according to them, "God gave them these places". So who's the aggressor?

I am sure you have already recognized what I said about Haganah. You just read about it and you cooled down. Even some years ago when pressure mounted on Neyanyahu back in 2009 he said the only way he would agree to Palestinian statehood is that Palestine will not have its own army, no Navy, no air force, no airport, Israel will control Palestinian air space and sea port. Is that an independent State of Palestine?.

Their mission since they occupied Palestine was the entire place belongs to them. Go and read David Ben-Gorion. He said it is a slow process until they have everything for themselves and kick Arabs out

Wrong majority of the two state solution was rejected by the Palestinians.


Israel doesn't want any of the above. Israel gave Gaza it's autonomy until hamas took over Gaza. The fact Israel has never went to war to claim lands any land it took it was first attacked. I knew about the haganah long before you mentioned it. They were made to protect the Jews from Arab aggression.


That's a start. Until the Palestinians prove they are not a threat to the Jewish nation I will also do the same if I were Nateyahu. The security of israel comes first. Palestinians have to be deradicalised. Israels plan after this war is to hand over Gaza to a coalition of friendly arab governments.


Ben Gurion is one person and he is dead. Many sayings attributed to him he never said them. Plus don't be an hypocrite many Palestinians chant from the river to the sea Palestine will be free.

Before OCT 7th majority of people in Israel ed the two state solution.


Do you the two state solution? Don't lie to yourself

Empiree:
I knew you would say this. Haganah was a Jewish terrorist group in the 1920s and it was banned by the British. After creation of Israel, Haganah transformed into IDF.

So when state of Palestine is created, Hamasss and other resistance will become proper Palestinian army.

I don't see that happening. Maybe the Palestinian authority but not hamas they won't be there when Palestine finally gets its independence.

Empiree:
IDF also has to go

Don't be stupid it's like saying the Nigerian army has to go.

Your plan and the plan of your god concerning the Jews will never materialise.

Lioness5280:


More imbalanced than the loud,hungry and criminal exporters of Africa who can't even close their gutters back home ?

You do know South Africa is the crime capital of Africa right?

Vic2023:
una won pretend shey say you no know our argument? You dey crazy***

Like I said you don't know what we are discussing.

From asking a very stupid question to using a picture that doesn't even match the piont you're trying to make.



To should I show you proof?

Proof of what exactly of what hamas was doing in Jewish homes in Oct 7th on of Nateyahu holding the picture of greater Israel?


You're so messy you're just over the place making no sense at all.

Vic2023:
shey make I bring you proof

Proof of what stupid Boy?


You've completely lost the plot of this discussion.


Do you know what we're discussing .

Empiree:
this isn't about kurds. The people that attacked Aleppo are alkaida and IS-IS.


Kurds are fighting exactly what Palestinians are fighting for. You find Palestinian homeland but you kurds to hand their home. What a double standard still!

But that's who the Jews the Kurds it was in the 2019 article you posted here abi you nor read am.

Like the Jews the Kurds are the original owners of their land.

Palestinians on the other hand are not.


I the two state solution said that many times but only when the Palestinians stop trying to kill Jews only when they agree to live in peace with the Jews a Palestinian state side by side a Jewish state like it was intended in the beginning. Only then can it happen groups like Palestinian jihad and Hamas has to go.

petesunday:
Is it true that Ukraine stored weapons in a mall and camped in schools? Do you know how many schools and malls Russia could have bombed and many thousands of civilians that would have died in Ukraine? Each time they bombed ukraine's energy infrastructure they could have bombed bridges, roads and even govt buildng in Kiev but chose not to.

Russia has blown up schools and more notable the childrens hospital in Ukraine for just having soldiers in the hospital.



Hamas has a terror tunnel that is more vast than the New York metro system this tunnel have openings in people's home schools hospital mosque and they attack the IDF from this tunnels. According to rules of war engagement this makes them legitimate military targets.


The Ukrainian army don't have and do any of that .

petesunday:
Check the statements of all Israeli leaders and you will find your answer. Even though Putin is fighting the Ukrainians he has never expressed any intent to destroy them. Do you that Netayanhu's speech about the Amal3kites? No African leader can make such statements and go scot free.

Yeah he referred to Hamas. Speaking Hebrew, he's comparing Hamas to the nation of Amalek in a age from the Book of Samuel. He said he will blot them out from under heaven hamas not the Palestinians.


What's wrong with that?

petesunday:
Why did the Arabs fight Israel?

Well they hate Jews (because of their religion) and they don't want Jews to be in possession of the holy land. Land 's that are originally Jewish.


Land in which the Jews have continually lived in for more than 4000 years.

Vic2023:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he's video full YouTube go and watch it there

And in that picture I can see only Israel in dark blue.


I thought greater Israel is the whole or most part of the middle east?


Your propaganda nor dey ganda

Vic2023:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣were you not alive on Oct 7?

I was but I doubt you were. Because if you were you wont ask the stupid question you asked.

Empiree:
You guys are criminal. Your idea is, if terr.orists carry out terror.ism in Arab and Muslim countries, they rebels, moderate, freedom fighters, pro-democracy etc. But if they carry out terro.rism in the West and nonmuslims countries, suddenly they are "Islamic terrorists" according to you.

What a double standard!

Don't be a fool I have said on this thread that I prefer Assad to alqaeda and Isis.


The Kurds are not terrorists. It's high time they got their own country.

Vic2023:
Do you know the size of Palestine 70yrs ago? Name the process which makes it shrink

And what process can make netanyahu fulfilled he's greater Israel ambition?

Palestinians / Arabs lost Wars to Jews wars they started that's what made their lands to shrink.



The picture in your post is Nateyahu showing the World Israels partner in the new middle east.


Don't be stupid.


Israel has no plan of ruling the entire Middle East

Vic2023:
when Hamas were in Jewish civilians houses during the Oct 7 were they bombed?

Bleep man who is your dealer?

I doubt you have a brain.

What was Hamas doing in Jewish homes in Oct 7th

Empiree:
God go punish whoever brainwashed you. Below is the real reason for their fake ceasefire they themselves have broken.

And so? The US is and have always been an ally to Israel.


This is a temporary ceasefire.


Let Trump assume office

adebowales:
you may as well surrender your life to the oppressors. You guys were just waking up on 7 oct last year!

That's right before Oct 7th should we couldn't the bombings the stabbing and shooting attacks carried out by Palestinians against Jews

adebowales:
isn’t it shameful that despite the munitions and intelligence mossad and idf posses, they still can’t get their hostages freed from hamas which is just a neighbor to isreal? There is nothing, trump will do differently than what is happening right now, the hostages are not going to be freed violently. Hamas demand a swap of the hostages with the Palestinians held in your captivity, I thought that was peaceful from the beginning until natanayahu decides to use force and till this moment still can’t achieve its aim. Shameful

Hamas killed thousands of Jews and kidnapped hundreds more they don't get to make demands.


And what's peace about that.


This is Israel demand release the hostages and surrender and the war stops.

obedience4:


Dude why waste your obvious superior intelligence on a clown who keeps jumbing from pillar to post.

These dudes have been wired to think the way they do. No matter the words or evidence you tender it can change their minds.

The sooner you know you are dealing with "radicalized" individuals the better for you.

The good thing about all this is that no matter how much we debate here on this thread,. it won't still change the mood in the "Knesset" the destruction of Iran and its proxies hamas and hazebolla would always be the priority of the Israeli government.

In the grand scheme of things what power or influence does some nairaland lowlifes have to change the narrative. So brother let the clowns keep screaming genocide. They are nothing but insignificant f**ls

My Man it's so frustrating.


They scream genocide but can't prove it. It sha laughable.

If they were to have an open mind they would have seen things the way I see them by now.


I blame it on their religion nothing wey dey wan tell me.

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2019? Any way the Jews have armed the Kurds before that isn't new. The Kurds are Israel allies.


We are now talking about Isis and Al Qaeda and we are in 2024 sister.


Israel will fight this groups if it gets to the part of the Syria border control by Israel.



Iran arms Hezbollah Hamas the houties and several militias in Syria and you have no problem with that.


Israel armed the Kurds in 2019 and now you want to rant.


Be quiet every country will give arms to who ever will work in their benefits that's international politics for you.


Don't cry foul.

Jovi10:


And they still went ahead to bomb the refugee camps.

Why was Hamas hiding in the refugee camps?


Why were they launching rockets from it?

Will did they endanger their own people?

Jovi10:


If you agree that Russia has killed civilians in Syria then it is, will you agree that Israel is commiting genocide then?

Fool what is if you agree Russia has killed civilians then will you agree that Israel is committing a genocide?



Give me any modern war that CIVILLIANS has not been killed.


Because civillians died in Gaza then its a genocide?


Agree to it let me show you the top 30 wars with the most civillian calsuaties.


Then you'll piont out which of them is designated as a genocide.


By the way no Jewish war is among the top 30 deadliest war when you talk about civillian calsuaties. True or false

Jovi10:



Let me break your definition down .
*the crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methods*

The crime of intentionally destroying part of or all of a group be it ethnic, religious etc.

Israel has the intention to destroy Hamas which is good. In the process of destroying Hamas, civilians have been killed in the process. Did Israel do anything to minimize or reduce the killing in Gaza? No they did not, they have been bombing them indiscriminately , the evidence is in the civilian casualty in Gaza. It was so bad to the point where Israel killed their own people raising the white flag.

Good boy, although you didn't answer all my questions this is a start.


So let's do it this way Russia in Syria has the intention to defend Assad regime and destroy terrorist doing so CIVILLIANS have been killed in the process. Is the Syria war a genocide.


What war have CIVILLIANS not died in? in want war have people not be killed by friendly fire ?


Let's see the top ten wars with the most civillian calsuaties and you will tell me if those wars were a genocide do you agree?






Is it true that Hamas have tunnels under hospitals schools mosque residential areas in Gaza?

By doing this intentionally isn't Hamas endangering Palestinians?


If your child and mine were in a house and I set that house on fire and you go in to save your child and I stop you from savings my child who is to blame if my child died in the flames you or me.



And yes Israel has done every thing to minimise the CIVILLIANS deaths. According to many sources the ratio of combatants to civilian deaths is 1:2 which is one of the lowest recorded in any war. True or false


Israel allows aid into Gaza true or false



Israel drops fliers and send texts to gazans warning them of an imminent airstrike true or false



Israel created refugee safe zones within Gaza that they don't attack unless Hamas operatives are there. True or false.



We die here today

Jovi10:


Maybe you should direct your answer to the united nations..

Your screenshots prove nothing brother you asked questions I answered you directly and clear.

I did not direct you to find answers for my question else where.


Now I ask again what metrics makes the war in Gaza a genocide?

Is it the death rates or is it intent?

Is it true that Hamas have tunnels under hospitals schools mosque residential areas in Gaza?

By doing this intentionally isn't Hamas endangering Palestinians?


If your child and mine were in a house and I set that house on fire and you go in to save your child and I stop you from savings my child who is to blame if my child died in the flames you or me.

Jovi10:


Maybe you should direct your answer to the united nations..

The UN has not designated the war in Gaza as a genocide.


My man answer the question if you know Israel is committing a genocide then you must know how?






Is it true that Hamas have tunnels under hospitals schools mosque residential areas in Gaza?

By doing this intentionally isn't Hamas endangering Palestinians?


If your child and mine were in a house and I set that house on fire and you go in to save your child and I stop you from savings my child who is to blame if my child died in the flames you or me.


Now I ask again what metrics makes the war in Gaza a genocide?


Is it the death rates or is it intent?

Jovi10:




Lmao your very omw definition says otherwise 😂😂😂. Why you dey para na, know be me write this definition for you na..


Read it again
"the crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methods"

So the definition of genocide shows Israel commits a genocide?


Omo you Mumu oh.


So if you ask me show me how Russia is committing a genocide and I post this as an answer

the crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methods" is the proof that Russia commits a genocide will you take this as an answer.


The questions again stop avoiding them every question you asked I answered all on my replies to you please do the same.
Is it true that Hamas have tunnels under hospitals schools mosque residential areas in Gaza?

By doing this intentionally isn't Hamas endangering Palestinians?


If your child and mine were in a house and I set that house on fire and you go in to save your child and I stop you from savings my child who is to blame if my child died in the flames you or me.
Now I ask again what metrics makes the war in Gaza a genocide?
Is it the death rates or is it intent?

Five reasons don't ignore this questions and you have proven that the genocide in Gaza doest exist use AI if you must.

Jovi10:


Does the reason you give exempt it from being genocide?


Why you dey vex na😂😂😂😂. You posted the definition yourself.

Read it again sir

"the crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methods"

With this few points of mine, I have been able to show and open your yansh that you're a genocide lover and an hypocrite. Thank you😋😋😋🤪😋🤪😋🤪😋

Nope it doest only that the genocide in Gaza doest exist.


Now I ask again what metrics makes the war in Gaza a genocide?


Don't run just yet.


Is it the death rates or is it intent?


Don't behave like Hezbollah get bashed and claim victory.


You haven't said anything to prove that the war in Gaza is a genocide. Nothing.

Jovi10:


There you go shooting yourself in the legs. The definition you brought was there an exception in it? The definition was pretty clear , so because you want to kill Hamas your free to kill as many Palestinians as you can.

Maybe you should read your definition again.



*the crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methods*

Was there any exception? The definition is clear for all to see 😁😂😂. Except you want to formulate your own definition sir.

Like I said don't be an idiot.


I have answered a lot of you questions today it seems like I did not impart sense in your head.


Let me give you the opportunity to give yourself sense. Answer this questions.


Is it true that Hamas have tunnels under hospitals schools mosque residential areas in Gaza?

By doing this intentionally isn't Hamas endangering Palestinians?


If your child and mine were in a house and I set that house on fire and you go in to save your child and I stop you from savings my child who is to blame if my child died in the flames you or me.


Hamas started a fire and they endanger their civilians in that fire by hiding under them.


Israel isn't there to kill as many Palestinians as they won't. I never said that. They are there to end Hamas.


If you don't answer the question then don't bother to reply me

Jovi10:


Where in the definition I sent and what you sent did you see any exception like attacking one after being attacked used as an excuse to commit genocide?

You people are funny😂😂😂

You're an idiot. Where did I say that attacking someone that attack you exempts genocide.


I gave you the reason Israel attack Gaza.


Don't try to be stupid please.

Jovi10:


So what part of your definition is not happening in Gaza ?

*the crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methods*

Nope it isn't.

The intention isn't to kill Palestinians it's to destroy hamas.


Israel has said release the hostages and surrender and the war stops. This invalidates any claim of genocidal intent


If Israel wanted to commit a genocide 80 years is to long to do it . And regardless of Hamas surrender the killing of Palestinians will still continue.

Jovi10:


Read the meaning of genocide below and tell me of what's happening in Gaza is different from what the definition says.

Yes. Its different. Israel did not just attack the Palestinians for being Palestinians or Muslims they attack because of OCT 7th.


While in Gaza the aim is not to kills many gazans as possible if that was the aim Israel has the capacity and capability to kill a million Palestinians in months. GAZA is the densest place in the world a thorough carpet bombing( like the kind the British used on Dresden) sustained for days will lead to the death of hundreds of thousands.


Israel only attacks terrorist that hide with CIVILLIANS if Israel were to spare terrorist that hide under civilians this war will drag on.

Terrorist hide within civillian infastrustures endanger their own people and they know this but they still do it either way.


If you don't have comion for your own people how do you expect your enemies yo be comionate with you and them.