NewStats: 3,265,415 , 8,186,664 topics. Date: Saturday, 14 June 2025 at 08:20 PM t176t

MightySparrow:


Anything religion does not atimes go with common sense. An illiterate somewhere will indoctrinate a professor, and in the name of religion would swallow the rubbish Lin hook and sinker, just to discover that same thing has been changed by 'New Lights' ten times in his lifetime.

Indoctrination is a powerful tool, Governing Body is a master trickster.

Your pastorpreneurs are selling your deities packaged in a bottle you are buying for your protection while they roaming around the city with well armed security escort.
Screenshot evidence.

You leave your master trickster pulpit bandits & be WAILING upandan about JW's.
Ozuo WAILING hypocrite.

achorladey:


When I saw the title of the thread I know Jehovah's witnesses won't bother at all to counter it simply because they know one area they show double face and hypocrisy is the baptism of children of which they condemn others for.


In the screenshot contain a piece of their religious publications, they stated men and women were getting baptized


Asked them, do they see baptism of children as low as 9 years old men and women?

Achorladey upgraded his penchant for IBERIBEISM.

Achorladey Awon Werey WAILING WAILER,is your 9 years old son/daughter an infant?

The OP of this thread said "INFANT Baptism".

For the records, JW'S don't have anything to do with infant baptism.

Ozuo pro max , come back home and continue WAILING.

WeirdAlien:
Remove the log from your eye before complaining about splinter in another person's eye. The fact that you're not JW doesn't mean the doctrines you follow don't have serious flaws you may be blind to.

I am not JW in any way. But to start criticizing a denomination as justification for yours means you don't know what you stand for.

Your question would be a lot better if you ask for opinions about infant baptism, or if you just state your views and respond to others' reactions.

Great point & well articulated.

Maximum respect Sir.

Emusan:


Shameless lying liar.

Below is a direct message from your own gods in Warwick.

Things to know!

1. The Title which asked: "What did Jesus do before he came to the Earth?"

2. The last part which says: "He served as the Word.

Now that your own organization claimed Jesus has been the WORD of God before coming to Earth.

Why did you lie that Jesus only became the Word of God after his mission on earth?

Let's see the person his blood is getting hot right now

Your Trinitarian mentors are teaching you before he came to the earth,your Jesus is the angel of Yahweh (YHWH "the LORD".

Jesus The Word is an angel.

MUMU WAILING WAILERS inseparable from delusion and tantrums.

From pages 35-37, the WAILING WAILER turned the thread to WAILERS desperate agonizing pains,
The WAILING WAILERS consoling themselves made ZERO input on the topic of this thread.
Dem just dey WAILING upandan.
I want the screenshot evidence by their fellow Trinitarians to remind them of the theme of this thread.
Their Trinitarian mentors teaching them Jesus Christ is the angel of Yahweh (his name YHWH substituted as " the LORD".

Naudeyrushme:
With two second half goals against Bahrain, from Daichi Kamada of Crystal Palace FC and star man Take Kubo of Real Sociedad, the samurai blue as they are fondly called successfully secured their participation in the forth coming FIFA World Cup Competition.

They currently sit top of Group C in the last phase of qualifiers in the Asian Continent with a total of 19points from six wins and a draw. Their closest rivals Australia are at 10 points.

Hajime Moriyasu will be competing in their eight consecutive world cup tournament.


Picture from fifa.com

Nigeria qualification for2026 world cup be liike morning mists.

E go choke like 2006 qualifiers in Kano that year
Or Cameroon vs Egypt in Yaounde that year.

Gabrielshow24:

Now you invariably proved Christ as God!
As far as anyone is concerned to do anything you need wisdom!
Hence God couldn't do anything without his son🙃—the wisdom of God, Word of God and Jesus Christ 👀

Thank you very much for making this clearer🤣🤣🤣

What else should does a Trinitarian churchian have to offer besides delusion!

MaxInDHouse:


Paul said Christ is the WISDOM that's speaking there o:

However, to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God. 1Corinthans 1:24

Gabrielshow24:

Now you invariably proved Christ as God!
As far as anyone is concerned to do anything you need wisdom!
Hence God couldn't do anything without his son🙃—the wisdom of God, Word of God and Jesus Christ 👀

Thank you very much for making this clearer🤣🤣🤣

After reading the Bible chapter and verse, this Kiddo must say his personal assumptions exactly conflicting against the rendition of his own Bible.

Him Bible na souvenir, not for diligent study.

Gabrielshow24:

Since when I have known you on this platform.
I have never seen you answer a question intellectually!!!

Do you have kids?
And you hope for your children to resemble you?👀 I forbid that for them, God forbid!!!
You and little children should be in the same class.

You say one thing this time when caught, you say another!
You also go to extraordinary lengths to defend faulty premises and as a last form of "your failed defense" you start attacking the character of your opponent.

Don't you know better?
Or you just can't help it?

Bible truth: Hebrew 1:2 "God created the Universe"
Gabrielshow24 intellectually: "Jesus is the creator"


MUMU Kid deceiving himself.

achorladey:


Werey peddling brains wants to start backtracking as usual when they are caught in lies and manipulations packed into their werey peddling brains. In your own case whenever you are hanged you run to question that has no correlation with whatever that was said as a means to

1. Deflect
2. Hide the lies and run away

See below....



When the discussion started your werey peddling brains knows that I am not talking about Jesus and Pharisees.



Because your madness and insanities peddling wants to make it a battle between truth and falsehood placing trinitarians in the land of pharisees and falsehood and your GODS of men housed in USA in the land of Jesus and truth.



That's why the day I asked you and your committee of worst fools on Nairaland, do those you call Christendom teach the truth y[/b]ou ran away with your werey peddling brains. A testament of your werey peddling brains. Even when you believe they are not your mentor, I know your mode of operation is not different na your delusions and being a typical pharisaical organization that makes your werey peddling brains thinks you are special



That I have equally gone against those same people you love to call Christendom confirms your mumu and and werey peddlings on Nairaland. Until you go against your GODS of men housed in USA then we can have a new conversation. For now your still peddling werey on Nairaland.

[b]
Achorladey says Christendom teach him the truth
Why is achorladey WAILING against Christendom church Fathers truth teaching achorladey that Jesus is archangel Michael ?


E dey pain am.
Awon Werey WAILING hypocrite

Emusan:


So is Jesus not The WORD of God before coming to Earth?

Emusan : "Jesus retained his spirit being on earth."
Definitely, Jesus can't be COMPLETELY HUMAN without RETAINING HIS SPIRIT BEING."

Emusan @ Matthew 24:36, Did Jesus spirit being know the day & time that God his Father knows?

achorladey:


MaxInDHouse one of Jehovah's Witnesses agreed with Trinitarians that Jesus is Angel Michael which means they have a one line of thought with false Christians and will readily reference the works of false Christians as truth

Is Titus 1:12,13 & 2:1 in your Bible?
Awon WAILING WAILER displaying his talent.

achorladey:


When their werey peddling brains get hanged they go the way of insult and start throwing Bible verse around. Emusan is just reasoning alone for now without scriptural reference.

Achorladey upgraded his penchant for LYING.
Na him way.
Emusan post:
Definitely, Jesus can't be COMPLETELY HUMAN without RETAINING HIS SPIRIT BEING.

No, not me!

That's the scripture.

John 1:1 "In the BEGINNING was The WORD..."

John 1:14 "...and The Word became flesh"

As you can see, Jesus being The Word transcends his Earthly mission as it was THE WORD who became flesh".

Truthseeker10:

😂😂😂after asserting that King James might not put "The God" in John 1:1 due to grammatical accuracy but you put "The man" in your analogy of John 1:1 and there is no grammatical error. So kindly tell us the possible grammatical error that can arise from putting "The God" in the king James version of John 1:1.

Emusan dey nadir level of comprehension skills.
He can't ever be COREN certified.
Him brain no reach that level.
😂😂😂

achorladey:


Even the JaNosense aka Janosky agree Trinitarians are your mentors in of principles regarding beliefs raised from the scriptures.

This is an acknowledgement of having one line of thought with Trinitarians, false Christians and christendom regarding doctrines as it concerns Jesus being Angel Michael and those Trinitarians equally believe that Angel Michael = Jesus is God.

Did Pharisees mentor Jesus & Paul to believe in the resurrection?

Definitely not.

Likewise,Your fellow Trinitarians devotees did NOT mentor JW's, our study and research of the scriptures is the basis for our beliefs.


Would achorladey be WAILING upandan about JW's if his Trinitarian godfathers were our mentors?

The answer is too obvious nau.
Achorladey MUMU WAILER.

Emusan:


So when the LIFE WAS TRANSFORMED, the spiritual body died in heaven.

Also, you can't transform something into another thing without SOMETHING RETAINING from what you're transforming from.

Definitely, Jesus can't be COMPLETELY HUMAN without RETAINING HIS SPIRIT BEING.

No, not me!

That's the scripture.

John 1:1 "In the BEGINNING was The WORD..."

John 1:14 "...and The Word became flesh"

As you can see, Jesus being The Word transcends his Earthly mission as it was THE WORD who became flesh.

You lied.

Emusan LYING miscreant, is Matthew 24:36 in your own Bible?
Emusan : "Jesus retained his spirit being on earth."
Did Jesus spirit being know the day & time that God his Father knows?
You no know nothing about John 1:1.
Emusan very low IQ dunce.

Emusan:

Travel is different from TRANSFORM

Anyways, now that the position Tinubu was before He traveled is the HIGHEST, when Tinubu returned and was PROMOTED which position will he get now?

Very MUMU question from a low IQ dunce.
Oga, no dey deceive yourself.

achorladey:

Assumptions and speculation that lacks no concrete evidence. Word for word nowhere it is said Jesus is Michael in prehuman existence
They only do when it favours them.

He did not know that since Jesus was never revealed as Michael in the Bible he should not be propagating assumptions and speculation packed into his brains

achorladey:

Assumptions and speculation that lacks no concrete evidence. Word for word nowhere it is said Jesus is Michael in prehuman existence

It favours the church fathers your fellow Trinitarians who received the Intel your ghost deity refused to give you- Jesus Christ is archangel Michael in his prehuman existence.

Oga, come over here and continue WAILING.
Awon Werey dunce.

Emusan:


Jesus is the Creator so He can't be angel Michael.

You never even addressed my questions.
So, the position was ERASED.

Do you agree?

@ Hebrew 1:2, Emusan your own Bible reads:
"God created the Universe" NOT the son.

The Commander of Army is always a soldier.
Therefore, Jesus the Archangel Michael, Commander of Yahweh's Army is always an angel commanding other angels.
The same reason Jesus is the Head of all principalities and powers.
You just wan deceive yourself.

Emusan:


So the same PERSON who was an angel in heaven is the SAME person here on earth.

Well my question was:

"Does that mean there's no Angel called Michael again?



His name REMAINS MICHAEL yet your claim was; "...after his earthly mission he now bears Jesus and that's the only name given through which we can be saved!"



So NO ANGEL MICHEAL that means he's position was erased, and this should be God's mouth PIECE


See confuse doctrine

John 1:29,In your Bible is Jesus Christ the Lamb when he had not sacrifice his life?
Yes.
Is Jesus Christ the Lamb after he sacrificed his life?
Yes.
Emusan MUMU, confused by Trinitarians.

Emusan:


You agreed that Michael was prehuman NAME and the new name after earthly mission is JESUS.

Now:

1. Does that mean there's no Angel called Michael again?

2. Why was the name MICHEAL USED in Rev 12:7 which is after Jesus earthly mission?

3. Since the being in heaven completely became 100% human on earth and NOTHING is divine in him anymore while on earth, does that means there's no Angel called Michael during the period Jesus was on earth?

1 &2.
Jesus is archangel Michael, nobody else bears that name in the spiritual realm.

3. None.

Emusan:


But The son was the one carrying out the activities of the CREATION.

Well that verse was talking about The Son in human nature.

In what realm did God command his Son to do the earthly ministry?

Emusan LYING miscreant,allow your deluded brain to function.

Emusan:


Who BREATH IN THE NOSTRIL OF ADAM?
That shows that The Son is God who created Them.

John 5:19 & Mark 10:6.
President Tinubu through the CBN fixed exchange rate @N1,600 to $1.
Is the Central Bank (CBN) Tinubu?

Emusan is desperately clawing at straws.

Emusan:

The UNIVERSE was created through, so will the Son be PART OF THE UNIVERSE?
My question, will the person be PART OF THE UNIVERSE?

Is the last born of every creature a creature?
Yes.
Is the first born of every creature a creature?
Yes.

Except the gene for self deceit & faithless miscreants is embedded in you.

Emusan:


The point here is THE UNIVERSE.

You agreed it through another person.

So will the person be PART OF THE UNIVERSE?

The person is the CREATOR.

Oponu JaNosense.

How can you CREATE SOMETHING THROUGH ANOTHER PERSON BUT THE PERSON who is actually carrying the activities ISN'T THE CREATOR?

Emusan Clinging tight to pride and delusion rather than Hebrew 1:2, in his Bible.

John 5:19 "the son can NOT do anything of his own initiative."

Mark 10:6 "God created THEM" not his son.
Hebrew 1:2 "God created the Universe."

Mark & John the apostle were taught by his son, Jesus Christ teaching them his Father's commanded, John 12:49-50
Emusan NOT agree with Jesus.

Emusan:


Good! Why did you remove the son?

Which means the Song wasn't part of the UNIVERSE?



Did the Son part of what He was Created?

Untill you answer that JaNosense

MUMU WAILER, "God created the Universe" not his son.

Oga,Allow your brain to function.

Emusan:


Good! Why did you remove the son?

Which means the Song wasn't part of the UNIVERSE?

Did the Son part of what He was Created?

Untill you answer that JaNosense

Emusan,allow your deluded brain to function..
Process Hebrew 1:2 again
"Hebrew 1:2 "God created the universe THROUGH another person.".

That "another person" is not the Creator.

Emusan,MUMU deluded empty headed soul.

Emusan:


Through who?

Oponu JaNosense

See the shameless lying liar JaNosense who deliberately remove THE SON from Heb 1:2

God created the Universe through his son Emusan.
Is Emusan the Creator?

That is the MUMU logic deceiving Emusan.
MUMU deluded empty headed soul..

Emusan:


My logis is that, a creature can never be the Creator.

The evidence from the scripture which you also agreed with is that Jehovah used Jesus to create the UNIVERSE
[s]which includes ALL THE ANGELS i.e Michael
[/s]
Jesus is the Creator the UNIVERSE according to JaNosense.

You can't force what is not in the scripture into it.

Hebrew 1:2
"The God created the universe"

Emusan LYING miscreant
"Jesus is the creator "

LYING faithless miscreant, you can't force what is in your deluded brain into the holy scriptures.

Your Trinitarian mentors proven that @ Genesis 16:7 Jesus is the first angel, the Chief /archangel Michael, the Head of all principalities and powers in your holy Bible.

MUMU WAILER deceiving himself.

Emusan:


If your brain is not paining you and full of dust, you should know that, the fact remains that Watchtower did what those Trinitarians did.

Do you agree with those Trinitarians what they did?

Let see how your hypocrisy mouth will sound this time?

Emusan,If you know your brain is not paining you and full of dust you should know that charity begins at home.
MUMU WAILING hypocrite ,Go and correct your fellow Trinitarians.

Emusan:


1.
Sure all ANGELS belongs to God AND Jesus is the Creator of ALL ANGELS

2.
So there's nothing like "The Angel of Jehovah or an Angel of Jehovah according" to NWT

1.
Therefore, Jehovah created Jesus, according to Emusan logic for 1 Corinthians 3:23.

2.
According to Emusan's logic for 1 Corinthians 3:23, Therefore,Jesus is archangel Michael, first born higher in rank than other angels.

In simple language, the Army Commander @ Joshua 5:13-14 is an angel of higher rank.
Is the Army Commander a soldier?
Yes,he commands other soldiers.
Jesus Christ is archangel Michael.

Emusan:


Oponu.

First, not ALL TRINITARIANS TRANSLATIONS use "OTHER" in Luke 13:2.

It's evident you know the added word "OTHER" by NWT is pure fraudulent but you want to hide under if other can do it then Watchtower has the right to it as well.

Which means the same thing you accuse other for and even call them different names is what you're defending your deluded organization for.

Continue WAILING and deceiving yourself.
Who added "OTHER" @ Luke 13:2?
Who added "Himself God" @ John 1:18?
Who added hell @ Mark 9:43-48?

To quote Emusan insulting words, your fellow Trinitarians are "brainwashed" & fraudulent."

You point one accusing finger @ JW's, the other four fingers accused your fellow Trinitarians.
Your bad belle & High PB nah follow come.

Gabrielshow24:

Out of me and you😂😂

Who makes false claims?
Is it you that cannot answer simple questions? 😂😂😂

Or you that make false assumptions from the start and start spinning stories to fit your narratives?

When attacked, your premises fail woefully and shows your conclusion was false!!!

See this Kiddo deceiving himself!

Hebrew 1:2 "God made the universe THROUGH.."
Gabrielshow24: "Jesus made the universe".
1 Corinthians 3:23 "Christ belongs to God"
Gabrielshow24:" That's a lie, Jesus made the universe"
You are undermining the authority of Jesus!

Gabrielshow24:

Exactly my point.
On that day, you will say Lord didn't we gather in your name😂😂😂!!!

And the Lord's reply will be: "I do not know you"!!!

Not exactly your point.

Your point is "serving Jesus".

You rejected Jesus instructions @Matthew 4:10.
You rejected Jesus instructions @Matthew 7:21
You rejected Jesus instructions @ Matthew 20:28.
Are you ready to obey Jesus like JW's do?

Gabrielshow24:

Your foolishness didn't let you see, that the Kingdom is not about what you preach or your works!
It's about are you serving Jesus!!!
That's what Jesus exemplified in the scriptures when some said they cast out Demons in his name.

Remind me again what he told them? 🤨
I can already foresee the answer you will provide on that day.
Lord, we gathered in your name, we showed works!!! We fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah etc.

And Jesus will surely reply you:
I do not know you!!!

All your allusions will be in vain, because you didn't get the identity of Jesus right.
After all you must live in the truth, not in the "works".

If the TRUTH is not there, the works are in vain🤣🤣🤣

JW's been been telling you the truth but your deluded brain is too shallow to grasp anything
Matthew 4:10
Then Yeshua said to him, “Depart Satan, for it is written: 'You shall worship THE LORD JEHOVAH your God and him ALONE shall you serve."
.

Matthew 4:10 Jesus Christ instructed Gabrielshow24 to worship only Jehovah God ALONE

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’[ab] will enter into the kingdom of heaven—only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.

Matthew 4:10 & Matthew 7:21 is the doing of Jehovah's will Jesus taught you to do.

Continue deceiving yourself "serving Jesus".
Matthew 20:28 no dey your Bible?
Faithless miscreant.