NewStats: 3,263,623 , 8,180,806 topics. Date: Friday, 06 June 2025 at 09:31 PM 2f1vt

Gerrard59:
It does not and would not change anything. If they wanted to stop Tinubu, that should have been BEFORE the 2023 elections, not AFTER. Tinubu is going nowhere. As I have repeatedly stated, Tinubu would rather commit suici.de than lose the 2027 elections.

I still don't know what exactly fuels any opposition party to think that they will win Tinubu in 2027.

It's impossible.

Perhaps, let's wait for that farthest probability of a Tinubu lose.

badaru911:

.... You don't know anything about politics, If you wanna catch a glimpse of it, go read "Pillars of the Earth" by Ken Follet and "World without end", also by him. Also "Accursed King"..

Accursed King is up to 7 books in the series.

These are good reads.

Will read.

Thanks.

The point in the whole issue is that you must not trust blindly.

The trust you have for a woman or man you are in a romantic relationship with must be absolutely verified and corroborated with evidence beyond doubt.

Don't trust blindly. Trust with eyes wide open.

You need to vet her.
You need to vet her phone.

Keep emotions aside now.
You need to switch to your logical side asap.

Clear your doubt.

And also allow her to clear her doubts.

May the good Lord see both of you through.

Amin.

Gerrard59:

The world economy and education system no wan understand. But tomorrow, they complain of low birth rates.

Humans will definitely learn statistics and biology by force.

Nature don't care.

Happy New Month, chief.

Mid twenties is the best - male and female.

Mid twenties - Assuming growth, development, and nurturing is optimal: quality genes, quality food, quality society, and a sustainable environment for progress and civilization.

If this optimal is absent - it's good men marry at least age 35 while women at least age 30.

Anything above 30s becomes reproductive risk

This is solely based on nature and biology.

Reproduction at an early age secures the best genes for the next generation and gives you time to rare your offsprings well.

Thanks.

emmaodet:


Thanks alot Cave. I really appreciate for the kind words.

Kudos, chief.

Happy New Month of May.

@emmaodet

Going through your diary has really caused me great ponder and soberness.

In local parlance "na man you be. Idan. Agba".

Please, be careful not to allow yourself become the ultimate sacrifice - you figure out this yourself.

You need to create distance. You need to stay afar.

Your children need you. Your wife need you.

Anything wrong happen to you tomorrow, your immediate nuclear family will suffer. So, it's better you keep yourself alive for them.

You've done well for your siblings and father. If it's to give them a sum of money and ghost them forever, you can think of it. They are not ready to build with you. They don't share in your vision.

Please, be careful with these people. Be extra cautious.

Ghosting or dealing from afar while protecting and guarding your nuclear family should be your ultimate concern now.

Your father and siblings are adults. They will survive if you die tomorrow. So don't kill yourself for them today.

Kudos, big chief.

Happy New month in advanced.

Gerrard59:

The rest of your post is true, but the bold got my attention because there seems to be this existing belief that is peddled on our social media that everyone can be wealthy. Every time, I read the words "wealthy", "rich people", "billionaires" etc., and wonder if people don't know that such people aren't plentiful in any part of the world. Everyone can not be wealthy because there are serious inflationary consequences. But our people go dey use the words "the rich people, the rich people" in their posts, especially in describing or talking about marriage or general living. "Financially comfortable", "well-to-do", "financially stable" are better than "rich and wealthy". Wealthy people no plenty for any part of the world. The majority of humans are at best average.


This is apt. Nature solves the whole problem. But the growing problem is that modern day women have become so educated and earn their own money to the extent that this has made them (rightfully so) believe they deserve men who out-earn them and are more educated (the men still have to provide). With women's inclusion into the labour force, jobs have been divided thus, many men cannot compete in order to provide. Additionally, the kind of men these women want is very few, which is why there is a growing number of single but highly educated and financially stable women in the society. So, women would have to choose a struggle in the coming years. An example is this article, which shows a growing number of educated women marrying men with less educational qualifications because, truthfully, the men they naturally desire no plenty and have far greater options.

See here: https: //www. theatlantic. com/family/archive/2025/03/marrying-down-wife-education-hypogamy/682223/


Nature will always win, which is why the belief by every young lady that she will marry a rich man or every young man's belief that he would be rich is misplaced. With the education, exposure and social media content, I don kuku see say an increasing number of people will remain single till they kpeme.

Nice input, chief. Apt.

Social media has really distorted us from reality. The way we judge and see things is now solely based on social media effects.

As far as humans continue to inhabit the earth, men and women will always fall back to the cause of biology and nature. It's just a matter of time. Or, risk sending your lineage to extinction - which is still another side of nature.

Thanks.

emmaodet:


I get your point bro but how come women are not blind to pick someone above them? It is because they don't choose with emotions (Love) rather Logical.
Any one who chooses based on emotions/Love would always regret it on the long run.
Women are not blind to come back from Canada or US or UK to pick a spouse yet the men are so blind to do such.
Women heart are not soft towards a lady working in Chevron to pick a teacher yet a man's heart is so emotional.
Everything begins from mindset.
I will regularly nature them in the kind of ladies to bring home.
Moreover, your environment 85% of the time will give you your spouse.
Where you go to regularly is where you will most likely see your spouse - CU environment, back home to Lekki, shopping at ShopRite, church at winners in Lekki, golf club house etc is 85% most likely where you will meet who you will toast and date.
Unlike poor people who are not conscious of their life's actions, I am very very conscious of it.
You said if we toe this line marriage will crumble or reduce, I doubt that just that most will marry within their level.
One thing am sure is that, no lady will use marriage to my son to correct her family's broke situation.
Not my sons.
Moreover, the only reason marriage is still happening is because men Love it and will go a length to have it.
If most women are educated and have good jobs, they recent it.
Women don'tike marriage, they only like relationship.
In relationship, they are not obligated to do anything or have any responsibility. They don't enjoy waking up every morning to cook for you and the kids or fo to the market.
If they can, they also want to wake when they feel like, cook and eat what they feel like and when they feel like without the necessary pressure of it from marriage.
With relationship, they still get the sex, gifts, outings without the necesity of cooking for you when you come to their apartment or wash your clothes. A can of coke in the fridge with snack should do while you gist and have sex.
They should all cut us some slacks about marriage up and down abeg

The truth here is that love and romance are not logical. That's it.

Women are choosing men higher than them, but how many women are getting married to millionaires and billionaires every weekend?

We shouldn't allow our sentiments to becloud our reasoning.

Like I said earlier, love is not business. Business is not love. If the whole concept of love is weighed on the altar of business, then, there's no love. And if there's no love there's no need pursuing relationship or marriage. This applies to both men and women.

Even if all the men and women on earth become millionaires tomorrow, that void which needs to be filled with love and romance will still be there. We shouldn't allow social media fool us.

Rich girls and women today feel like they don't need men because they are still in their prime and early career phase. Wait till when they start aging. This applies to men too. They are both hustling for penis and vagina respectively behind the scene. But the compromise and sacrifices that are involved in dating and marriage are what they are trying to escape.

Not saying a man should blindly select for a lady without adequately vetting her for what he wants in a woman. She must meet his metrics. However, the majority of men and women will marry at their level.

Thanks.

emmaodet:


Yes, I understand bro and it is okay by me but my point is that even if men are going to go low, it shouldn't be that low all in the name of Love.
We go too too too low honestly.
Marry within your range or band.
All kind of ladies will always be within your band.
I don't want to believe it is only the ladies from broke homes that are humble or submissive. You will find them in the middle and upper class too. It is your job as a man to find them and marry if you are in that class.
Most ladies who were born and brought up in Lekki won't dare marry a guy from egbeda all in the name of Love.
The least they can settle for is a guy in Lekki too or abroad while a guy staying in VI will be wifing a lady in iyana ipaja all in the name of yeye Love.
If you are going to come down, not too low. Lekki, VI and environment should be the lowest too.
I can have a son who I sponsored to convenant university come home with a lady from Polytechnic honestly. I and his mother would reject her.
I will threaten her not to come near my house again.
The least he can go is Babcock or any top tier private uni, not even govt federal universities honestly.
Apologies to most of us that went to govt schools but unfortunately, I won't allow my son descend so low to pick a lady from there.
Actually I don't care if we have rich kids in govt. schools but he dare not

I get your point, Chief.

But the heart will always go for what it wants.

Creating a chasm for love which is automatically becomes romantic classism does more harm than good.

Love is not business. Business is not love. Both are separate concepts.

By the way, there's a higher possibility of CU male graduate + CU female graduate. But if it never occurred and it eventually becomes a poly female graduate that's what the heart really want.

The thing here is that most marriages are based on same level of spouse's potentials.

And in a hypothetical scenario, if we really want to tour this line, the majority are not going to get married.

Summarily: as witnessed average men and women get married to mates at the same level as them.

Thanks.

Nigeria is a slaughter house.

Dreams and human lives keep wasting away.

Sigh.

emmaodet:


Hmmmmmm
Thank God you are seeing what we have been parroting for years.
I just hope average men can be this ruthless too and look beyond worthless beauty and sex.
There are 2 sides of a relationship - Love and Business.
Most women consider the 2 ruthlessly. You can be handsome, caring and good on bed (the Love/Attraction side) but how financially buoyant are you to sustain a family (the Business side)? She may date you for sometime but will drop the relationship at the shortest moment when a better option shows up.
For men, please watch out for this too.
Beauty, nice shapes - bumbum and boobs, caring, respectful, God-fearing etc is the Love side. Unfortunately most men are totally satisfied with it.
The Business side? By associating with her, what do you benefit from her? How does associating with her rubs positively on you?
Good examples -
A lady working high class jobs at LNG, Mobil, Nigeria Bewery etc that dating and marrying her gives you connections to contracts, helps you recruit your brothers or friends into these organisations because she is part of the HR or knows someone there.
Dating and marrying high status men's daughters like senators, governors, corporate top dogs daughters that associating with these ladies helps and makes your journey in life softer. I can explain on this later.
I am tired of seeing men working themselves up a bit all just to come back to Nigeria to pick a broke poor lady, regularly pulling broke ladies up and her family but when the tidy turns, the lady won't hesitate to leave

Nice points, chief.

Those women in higher offices and of higher statuses are getting married to men at the same level as them and higher.

There's something we must understand: top-tier people are the 0.1% of every society. They are not common. In most cases they only rotate within their axis - individuals at same level as them.

Back to the evolutionary game: men date lower while women date higher.

Men date lower because they easily flex their authority - leading, providing, and protecting. Women date higher because they are the weaker sex and search for the aforementioned men to safeguard them.

Going back to the majority of the population - middle class and lower class, there will always be a higher possibility and probability in dating and marriage within their strata.

Even if men date lower, in many wedding ceremonies we've have been opportuned to witness on social media - high profile men in their numbers got married to high profile women. And vice-versa.

Men aiming for high profile women must be occupying high profile zones. This is not a work of letters and imagination. It must be so.

Women are not visiting clubs and high-end places with their expensive make-up and wears for nothing. They are simply targeting fat preys - rich and successful men.

If men are advised to marry high-value women, they also must raise their standard by becoming high value men.

The crux of the matter: men and women as we've continuously witnessed every weekend always get married at approximately same level as their potential mates.

Of course, in last few decades, there has been a social and cultural change which affects the way we see dating, romance, love, and marriage. However, regardless of socio-cultural changes, humans will still rotate around their biological and evolutionary axis.

Thanks.

Cc. Gerrard59

iLegendd:


Listen to this and thank me later.

Ihedi. Ihiedi Light of Africa: The Spectrum of Human Existence: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMk7c5WAm/

The only kind of emotion I didn't express when watching this video was happiness.

I felt pain.
I felt anger.
I could feel trickles of tears gathering at the corners of my eyelids.

My heart was laden with sadness and worries.

The Black race is extremely cooked almost beyond redemption.

As for our generation, we can literally say all hope is gone.

Matthew Ashimolowo once wrote a book - What is wrong with being Black?

Sigh.

The rule for every successful relationship: the woman must choose you. She must have a genuine desire for you.

It doesn't matter whether you are poor or rich, ugly or handsome, short or tall.

If a woman likes you, she likes you and will do anything to make that relationship work. She will be the one to give herself advice and behave in the best manners to get you attached.

If she doesn't care about your feelings, won't listen to your serial complaints and warnings, just forget about her.

Both of you have invested in a relationship that has so far served its purpose but will fail to climb to the next stage. It's an unfortunate situation.

Constant complaints and negotiations drains the blood out of a relationship. Arguments melts the bond. Impulsiveness wears both of you. The resultant stress and emotional disturbances sips the vitality of the soul.

The heartbreak is imminent. Brace up man.

It's time to call it a quit.

I know you are in love. It hurts.

However, that's the best price you can pay to ensure that your heart still remains soft to accept and love another woman who rhymes with your prayers and values.

This too shall away.

Stay firm.

Don't fret.

Nothing is ever stopping Tinubu in 2027.

Nothing.

Not man. Not woman.

Except death, which is natural.

In the sphere of political dominance and reclaiming the presidential seat come 2027, Tinubu is cocksure.

The other exception is if there's a complete overhaul of INEC and the Judiciary. Or, the angry elites at the corridor of power are much and decide to rebel against the result.

In a normal democratic system, BAT ought to have been booted out since 2023. But you know, we are living and operating with a failed state and political system.

Nigerians braze up. The worst is yet to come.

We are cooked.

Number 1 rule for men: never in any condition sacrifice your dreams and ambitions on the altar of love because of any woman.

Because once a woman senses that her level is now above yours, she will treat you with contempt and dislike.

And that's what the OP experienced at the hands of his ex-girlfriend.

The issue here is tricky, as the solution or the next move forward will be a slippery one.

The major thing you need to do is not to withhold the ID card but to inform her that you are no longer interested in being her guarantor. Follow the case legally and logically.

This is not the time to rescind or become impulsive because of the maltreatment you suffered at her hands.

The best thing to do now is to make sure you clear your name from being her guarantor. Withholding your ID card is not enough. Go further and clear your name completely from all her books.

A good example of the idiom - "the ball is in your court".

Stupid and wicked people need to be served with the same cup they used for others. Ungrateful idiots.

Thanks.

0neal:


You went the whole nine yards on this Cave

The rage phase of being redpill aware takes time, I believe with time the poster of the question will get over it.

Yope.

He's right with his questions though. And his thoughts are valid.

Logically speaking, no gain in marriage for a man save for his biological instinct to procreate and continue in the gene pool.

Since that's how nature has made men, so nothing to do about it. But to rise to the better side of life, become the best version of ourselves, and live life on our .

We shouldn't stop the logic there. Since logically speaking again, the end of life is death. To be candid: "We are just wasting time on earth." No need for all these struggles since death is inevitable.

However, what we do between birth and death is what makes life enjoyable. So, choose anything that makes more meaning and sense to you.

And marriage, despite its denigration, still remains a core institution for building a strong family and society. Until we get something better.

0neal:
As africans our laws doesn't take average men to the cleaners after a divorce.

This is where I see reasons with western men who says "the Juice ain't worth the Squeeze"

True.

But we won't also deny the fact that there exists a whole lots of bullshits happening in African marriage.

Globally, dating and relationships are a mess.

Both the global north and the global south have where they outweigh more and perform less than the other.

The bottom line is to stop the complaint and be on the defending side. Men should also enter attack mode. We can't adapt to rubbish.

0neal:

I'd argue you are referring to the MEN, most women find attractive and are viscerally aroused by...
- Bad boys
- High status men
- player

They are the ones most delusional women refer to with their "Men are Scum" slur

Not the nice low-income earner average joe when it comes to intersexual dynamics.

Average men and women lack an understanding of love. Ditto for the player and nice guy.

The player sees love and romance as a game of winners vs losers. So he devises ways to manipulate his opponent by promising love but later dumping her.

The nice guy opens his heart to genuinely love a woman but is ignorant that the woman is a manipulator who wants to lure him with the promise of affection and companionship to siphon his time and money.

All of them in that scenario lack an understanding of love.

This now brings us to the importance of vetting. If you understand love and know how to vet correctly, you'll be less affected by the sexual radioactive explosions.

Thanks.

1. What we must understand clearly is that children are products of the lust and pleasures of their parents.

No child begged to be born. But it's a reality every child and adult must grow up to understand and accept.

To prove further, many children will never choose their parents if they have the sole authority at the fetus or embryonic stage. Or even in infancy.

2. No one should be denied anything. Especially if they have worked for it, deserved it, and matured enough to handle it.

3. However, we must come to with realities. Instead of wishful thinking and hopeful expectations.

4. The truth is that people with disabilities will not be treated the same way as able-bodied people. There's an innate tendency to view them as lesser than other humans. It's the same in the animal kingdom. You must be whole and capable to lead the pack or group.

You can't force people to accept them. The highest you can do is to make sure they are protected and not discriminated against. So, any form of dislike you have for the disabled should remain and burn inside your heart. Because the disabled deserve love and companionship, too.

4. If you asked that actor if there's something he can change about himself before he lists 1 -,5, he will definitely mention his height.

But here he is reproducing a girl child with the same defect. A child who will definitely wrestle with her identity, her nature, and human instinctual tribalism.

That child never asked to be born. She never.

Inaugurating her into the same party of casual hate and discrimination and even low self-esteem and doubt the father witnessed in his lifetime is wholesale ignorance at best and foolishness at worst.

5. His desperation and love for a child should have made him seek the creme de la creme of medical procedures that can assure him a quality offspring. No matter the effort he must have placed into that prior (which I seriously doubt), it pales if this child is the best he came up with.

6. It comes down to the selfishness we're talking about.

If that wasn't the case, he would have lusted without reproducing or reproduced a child with quality genes.

This is unfair.

7. Normal adults have it difficult in life not to talk of adults with disabilities.

He has set that child on an existential crisis familiar to him.

8. The ironic part of this whole family saga is that he will now and forever prefer a child without his dwarf traits. However, to feel happy, he will come up with a series of rationalizations for loving his child - of course, he should.

9. This is not ignorance. This is pure selfishness minced with foolishness and iced with lust.

Humans and animals have an innate desire to reproduce. But to ensure the survival of your species you must reproduce quality genes that would not be conquered by a superior genes or tribe.

10. The world is not a friendly place.

It's better to adapt to reality than hope things go your way.

And that's why some animals have horns, some have venoms, some have shells, some appear fearful, etc. Humans with a higher intelligence should know better.

Thanks.

Kipaji:


Oh wow, how insightful!

The part about how it doesn't make much sense to refuse to engage with women because of their bad sides and risks while we regularly engage in other things with bad sides and risks is the one that caught my attention the most.
But why though? Why is it that when it comes to women, a lot of men these days just give up? As you said, businesses, transportation, etc., have their whole lot of risks, too. So, what is particular about the women case?

To be sincere many are avoiding women because of low ball game. (I know this happens in the West too due to a skewed and porous legislature. So, it seems better now for Western men to ignore women. Ignoring women totally without finding a way to destroy the demonic legislature against family and relationships will steadily lead to an extinction of their race).

Back to Africans.

There are so many reasons you can count which are valid for ignoring women. But as it stands a man can still get a good woman if he decides to.

What's happening is that they are using these excuses not to enter GAME at all. Meanwhile, it's just LOW CONFIDENCE MASKED WITH REDPILL.

Sex is the first thing on the list of the male species across the animal kingdom. That's why you see male animal species doing the most for female animal species. Because sex is an opportunity to sustain his genes for aeons in the genetic pool.

Every other things after sex is secondary.

Many different ways have been stated previously on how to approach women - cold and warm approaching.

I know women are this and that. But are the men saints? No. Men are also accomplices in the pollution of the dating pool. However, modern-day men only see the speck of dust in women's eyes and ignore the log of wood in their eyes.

Men and women contribute to the mess we are experiencing today in dating and marriage.

It's your choice if you decide to avoid women entirely.
But if you still desire feminine warmth in your closet, it's no longer a choice but a lack of opportunity.

Everything in life involves risk.

Being in your mother's womb for 9 months was a risk.
Surviving infancy and childhood is a risk.
Taking responsibility of others as an adult is a risk.
Having to commute to work every day in a busy metropolitan area is a risk.
Entrepreneurship is a risk.

Even dating is a risk for both man and woman.

So, what makes the case different when it comes to dating and relationships? Why all the fears?

The essence of the Redpill is to understand female psychology and nature and learn to work with it as a man.

To make it clear, dating or relationship is not compulsory. However, coming up with thinkpieces for men to entirely avoid it while using plausible rationales is where the real problem lies.

Many women are unfit for dating and relationships. A man interested in a romantic relationship must:

A. Know the redpill.
B. Become the best version of himself.
C. Traverse his territory or geography to get the best of women where they are located.

You can't be lying down inside your bedroom and expecting a good woman to walk up to you. Rather, you put yourself in a position and location where it becomes possible for good women to access you. Or, to access the kind of women you want.

Thanks.

Martinez39s:
@CaveAdullam, I'm glad to see you back. Where have you been? Conferring with the gods?

Anyway, I'm glad to see Jeshal, a redpiller, asking a question to pro-marriage redpillers and a pro-marriage redpiller answering with credible reasons for his choice. Hopefully, as usual, as it was in the past, this yields a cordial discussion without toxic elements and nuisances hopping on this to throw mud at others. This is a little example of what these threads used to be. I dey come.

Once upon a time, I never missed reading a page in this thread. But since the 2021 and 2022 series ended, I've been unable to keep up. Even many redpill nuggets I wrote down have started gathering dust on paper with almost faded ink.

Coupled with the fact that the thread is now a conglomeration of alpha males with coconut heads. Simply can't be wasting time doing back and forth. Though, it pains me because my followers aren't getting fed as usual.

I digress.

Marriage is not by force. Neither is it compulsory. Every man must choose which cross he wants to carry.

Like I said before, if we were to be truly logical, the bravest humans who ever existed are those who fvck themselves through a suicide mission. Closely followed by monks. Because they clearly understood that life is utterly meaningless if we are to consider the irrefutable evidence death presents.

But an ambitious man with clear goals and visions, filled with lust for luxury and comfort, and an overflowing vigor to traverse mountains and rivers, saying he isn't going to consider marriage, which serves as an opportunity to build a dynasty, reeks of naivety.

"Oh, we can have children without getting married."

I don't even need to argue that. There is a lot of research that states that "children from a two-parent household do better and are more stable than children of single parents".

It's always easy to say you can raise children solely until you meet and interact with widows and widowers.

About 2 years ago, in VI, I met a British guy who did surrogacy. He had beautiful male twins. But the few times I met him and those kids, I knew both father and sons were literally suffering. But ego and pride wouldn't make him see the wrong choice he has made. I do always pray those kids survive up to childhood. As of that time, they were less than 3 months old. The way he was taking care of those twins and handling them wasn't the same way a mother would.

Fun fact: it was the female workers in the hotel that were still helping him with the kids. Man doesn't even have a life because he must always be with the kids.

So, an ambitious man, one looking to become wealthy in the future, what's your purpose actually?

No kids to inherit your possessions.

Who will have access to the royalty of your IP?
Who will have access to your big fat bank s?

It would be stupid to tell me you will give it to charity or the orphanage.

Or, your family who will birth kids and reap everything you've planted with just a surname.

If you are a minimalist and don't want to get married fine. It makes sense. But for an ambitious man, it's ridiculous.

I know it's all a desire for vain glory. Because it all ends in death. But we can still make it make sense while on Earth.

We must be pragmatic in our decisions today. So that we don't end up regretting it in the future.

If you want to marry, fine.
If you want to remain a bachelor forever, fine.

There's logic to back them up. It comes down to which color of poison we find appealing. Because death is inevitable.

Thanks.

JESHAL007:
Niggas be telling me that they will vet and vet
Oga U be veterinarian
No woman is without bullshit
What marry in the first place?
I tried to find out why most of our red pill guys still get married.
These are people that have been in the game longer than I have.
They can't even tell me something reasonable. I asked a couple of them on telegram.
Do you want to marry because of children?
-no
U want to find happiness
-no
U wanna give momma grand children
-no
Are you afraid of loneliness
-no
Is it the society
-no
Peer pressure
-no
I don't understand
Why the fvck do you want to get married then ?
I just want to get married and have the experience.
The fvck, are serious
Let me me ask you guys here
If you plan to get married
Please tell me why
I'm dieing to know
Please tell me

1. If you truly want to be logical about life, it will be hypocritical to know about suicide and still decide to be alive today.

Why do I say so?

Because the end of life is nothing. Literally nothing.

So, tell me, why do you struggle day and night for a brighter future?
Why do you dream big?
Why do you have ambitions?

Or, are you gonna lie to me that you don't know that all living things die? And you will die someday.

In fact, every breathe you take upon the surface of the earth fills you with life and at the same time draws you to your grave.

Why bother yourself when you will end down in 6 feet in less than 70 years from now?

If we truly want to be logical about life, there's absolutely nothing that makes sense. Absolutely nothing.

2. Despite this fact, we dear the adverse nature of life. We struggle for a better end. We work smart. We work hard. We like food. We like beautiful things. We like luxury. We like comfort. Because they are what makes life temporarily enjoyable till the coming of death.

3. Some see love and romance as what gives them happiness.
Some see their job as what gives them happiness.
Some see traveling as what gives them happiness.
Some see reading as what gives them happiness.
Some see adventures as what gives them happiness.

Therefore, it will be naive of you to think that because you chose work that gives you happiness, then, you are better than the one that chose love and romance. Or, vice versa.

: it all ends in death. So, what makes you think that one is better than the other for following a transient point of happiness that differs from yours?

4. Let me state this clearly: the number 1 motivating force and power on earth is SEX - which is further substantiated on the foundation of relationships, love, romance, and marriage.

Your work as an inventor, scientist, innovator, engineer, thinker, writer, philosopher, etc will only be valued by a human population who can only come into existence through SEX.

5. Many great men in history never got married. But it took the population of men who got married to birth offsprings that made these men who would have been lost in the archives of history to remain known to the world and their works accessible by the sons of men on earth.

Nikola Tesla didn't get married. But nobody would have known about Nikola Tesla and his works if the people in his time shunned sex and marriage.

Hope you are getting the point now.

6. The problem we have today is that we are judging love and romance based on what we are seeing and experiencing today. Rather than judge by looking at their true meaning and purpose.

7. There can be sex without marriage. But there will be no society without marriage. Every society that seems to be collapsing today is because of the rampancy of sex. Where sex is not sacred under a notable institution, civilization declines gradually.

The importance of marriage is to make sex sacred. If sex becomes rampant and cheap with every cent and kobo, that society will end up down the drain.

So, marriage is not as useless as you think.

8. Again, the reason young men still find women difficult is because they expect women to be who they are not.

That's where the Redpill comes in. However, most men these days are trying to use it as an avenue to hate women or abstain from romance entirely.

Women are who they are. They will not change. It's simply their evolutionary and biological makeup. Instead of hating or avoiding them, you learn how to deal with them, hence, GAME.

9. Women are like pets. You will never expect your dog to start acting like a human someday. No matter the human training you give to a dog, a dog will still remain a dog. But should that stop you from loving the dog, no.

Will you now say because of the occurrences of road accidents, you will never ride a car? No.

Begin to extrapolate this logic to other areas of life - business, investments, etc.

10. It's the same thing with women. You understand their modus operandi and leverage it for a successful relationship.

If I'm not going to avoid other things in life because of their downsides - all things have both pros and cons - then, it will be ridiculous to avoid women because of their dark side. Even men have their dark sides too. All humans.

11. There's this hypocrisy men are now carrying around based on the revelation of female nature and psychology as if men themselves are innocents and saints. Meanwhile, we are all sides of the same coin; dress from the same material.

12. Women are a reflection of what men permit in society. And men become what women reward.
And don't forget this - SEX IS THE ULTIMATE RULER OF THE UNIVERSE.

13. To your question:

Marriage preserves the sanctity of sex. Because a society without tough rails on sex will turn into a cesspool.

A functional society is built on a sound micro system - a family. A system of similar people and cultures. And family is constructed with the bricks and fabrics of marriage.

Why sex? Without sex, the human population comes to an abrupt end.

The fact that this path doesn't makes sense to you doesn't in anyway makes it less important on a macro scale. It's the same way they will see your path too - useless.

It comes down to you finding a path that you enjoy and seems more meaningful to you.

Thanks.

Wanting an Odogwu is not the problem.

But the big questions are:

Are you an intelligent woman?

Are you a career-oriented woman?

Are you an ambitious woman?

Are you a woman who can invest in love and relationships?

Are you a modest and sweet woman?

Do you have a job?

Can you feed yourself?

Do you depend on men for a living?

What are the quality of your friends?

Are you truly independent to handle your situations and at the same time maintain a quality level of feminity?

Before I proceed, do you have a banging body like Chioma?

Firm boobs?
Sumptuous buttocks?
Average height?
A personified figure 8?

Every woman desires a man like Obiora. But every woman must also understand that men like Obiora are only for selected women like Chioma.

Even though Obiora wasn't portrayed as an accurate representation of masculinity in of understanding female psychology and romantic dynamics, at least he knew what he wanted in a woman. And Chioma ticks his checkbox.

The faulty side of Obiora's masculinity is that he intends to buy love with cash and gifts.

However, there's a difference between winning women with baits and giving a woman who has already won your heart baits (presents).

Trying to buy a woman's love with materials and luxury will always get him exploited. Because women are like what ants are to sugar.

Luckily for Obiora, Chioma wasn't there to exploit his pocket and generosity because she was truly an independent woman.

Concurrently, Chioma was Obiora's species. Hence, he wasn't after her body.

Chioma was very optimistic about the man she desired. But Odogwu Obiora didn't meet that spec and standard. Although it took a retrospective check to correct her patterns before accepting him.

Now, love and relationships can happen from different angles. It's not exactly stated or certain how it should be or how it should go, provided the spouses find themselves convenient for each other.

But settling down as an option is what must be put into consideration.

You are not meant to convince someone to love you. The chemistry might not be spontaneous from the onset, however, it should have a bit of spark.

For Obiora and Chioma, there was a spark, but Obiora needed a notebook of persuasion to win Chioma; Obiora was not Chioma's spec.

Going on a long journey of persuasion to win love is a reckless and foolish one. Even if that person later accepts you, it was because you were the last option and not the best bet.

So these are some of the lessons learned:

1. Have a quality and good standard for everything you want or do.

2. Select quality people and friends.

3. Learn to stand up for yourself when faced with annoying bosses or bullies.

4. Focus on your dreams. Don't abandon your dream trying to build someone's.

5. Be bold. Be courageous.

6. Become truly independent. Your life shouldn't be dictated by the emotions of other people.

7. Don't spend to please people or make people like you.

8. Give leeches a runtime for their existence. Fumigate them thoroughly.

9. For men, find a woman like Chioma - in all of her ramifications.

10. For women, you need an Odogwu.

Summarily, genuine love isn't predicted on luxury and materials. It comes down to hearts who truly love themselves and are willing to make the best out of it.

FreeSpirited:
When did caveAdullam become a simp massaging the ego of a woman
Thought this guy was always forming redpill boss when did he downgrade. Really shocked

When you have a girlfriend or a wife act like Brock Lesnar + Roman Reigns + Randy Orton for her.

Romantic lines and sweet messages have turned to massaging ego.

"Shay na tragedy I for dey write for her ni"

PS: She does the same. We are rubbing each other's egos.

Groupoid:



You recently gave me an advice on the redpill thread, on how to meet girls and all, that I need to learn how to go out.
But the problem is that I have a non-existent social life. Like; I literally don't have a social life. You know those bro-cycle guys usually have, where we all hangout and chill? I don't have that.

And you know the worst part; I literally don't even know what to do to change it. It's like I'm helpless. All my life; I've literally been indoors. I've never had friends right since I was a child. So, I literally always felt/feel bored MD lonely.

Now, I'm in a university where I thought things would change, but it didn't. I've just been sitting in my hostel from 100lvl to 400lvl,and now I have less than one year left in this school, and I didn't make any tangible friendship with either gender.

I tried ing a sport(I don't like them tbh,but I have no choice), but I couldn't even muster the courage to even make it to the inquiry stage. I know people will say " how about ing a church?" I don't belong to any church (not a believer). I shy away from churches because I don't really have good clothes, and I don't want to look weird, wearing not-so-good clothes to a place where everyone is shining.


I'm just fed up of being always lonely. I'm tired. Since i was a child; I've always been alone. It's like my identity. People always knowe as the quiet kid that doesn't talk to people.

I see some group of guys strolling together in the evenings, and I wish I could have that. I don't know if my issue is timidity+shyness. I really don't know, but I just need a change.


The main reason motivating me to even change is that I want to change is that I want girls. You told me to put myself where women are abundant, and I can't even get out of my hostel. How's that going to work?


I'm just tired Cave.

To summarize everything: I don't know how to go about, developing a social life. I think my own case is worse, because it's genetic. Ias told my dad is just like me- doesn't know how to make friends nor go out, and he lost a lot of opportunities. I don't want to end up like him. But yet; I don't know how to help myself.

1. Like I said earlier you don't need to break the bank to look good.

With 5 - 10k, you'll get something nice to wear and a body spray to give you a good smell.

2. So, look for a job that will help you gain some money to help you provide those basics.

Back in the days, I told my mum that there are clothes we were asked to buy for lectures. I did so because I had bad clothes. She helped me. From there I started saving to buy new clothes on my own. That was in 100L years ago.

3. You seem like an autist or high IQ individual. If that's the case, you will have problem relating with people.

Average human is boring. If you want to be logical about human relationship, you will end up not making any friend. They will waste your time. They have nothing meaningful to say.

You just need to be outside and pragmatic. So that you can know how to fellowship with them.

4. I'm a Christian apostate. Lost that faith in 2021.

But guess what? I still go to church.

Why? Human relationship.

Despite the fact I don't believe whatever they are doing there, I still flow with them.

And I won't lie, being in church has earned me somethings good.

You don't need to impose your unbelief in them. And they won't impose their beliefs on you too.

It's all about being among a group of people that can grant you opportunities.

You can call it a paradox, irony, or even hypocrisy. But I don't care. Because I know that without human relationship we are nothing.

4. You must force yourself to be outside.

You'll gain nothing meaningful from a club. So don't start from there.

Go to game parks. Go to lunch parks. Go to church. Go to mosque. Go to the library. a community.

Ask questions. Talk to people.

5. Read and write too. Because once you are in the midst of people you need to showcase what separates you from them. That can be your intelligence, the way you talk, the way you analyse, the way you show concern, etc. This is how you start to build foundations that gives you opportunities.

6. Bro, you can't be poor, broke, and at the bottom of life and say you are an introvert. It's demonic. Fight it at all costs.

7. If you think you are not cute enough, run to your barber. He has the magic potion on what to do on your hair and looks.

Get good clothes. Get good spray. Get good perfume oils.

8. You don't need to act needy or clingy around people. When you are in their midst your enlightenment will help you.

Go out and talk to people.

Rise conversation with the aboki you buy suya from.
Rise conversation with the market woman you buy from.
Try to hold conversation for minutes even if it ought to end in seconds.

You will say something rubbish and annoying at the beginning. But with time you will get better.

The fear of embarrassment is what you holding you down.

But no master became great without soiling their hands and willing to be seen as fools.

Go out and talk to people.

Thanks.

Groupoid:



Good evening. Do you mind if I ask you some questions? I could use some elderly advice.

No qualms.

You can proceed.

Good evening.

It's is easier for Tinubu to win 2027 election than for a thread to the eye of a needle.

Sigh.

X

Cc musicwriter

iLegendd:
THIS WILL SAVE NIGERIA OR PUT US ON THE RIGHT PATH.

After watching a video of VDM in China, talking about how their Chinese king unified them by making sure everybody learns one language.

He said China has more than 100 languages, but the king said we are going to learn and master one language.

And for you to be employed in China as a Chinese, you must be able to speak that language called Mandarin.

After analyzing his post, I realized we can actually achieve it in Nigeria, but if you choose Hausa, Yoruba people will not be happy.

If you choose Yoruba, Igbos won't be happy, and vice versa. So what I want the president to do is, don't choose any of the top 3 or top 5.

Go for those other unknown languages where there are no tribal wars. Look for that tribe that has the most educated people in those minority languages.

Send linguists to study all those languages to see the one that is simple and closer to English.

Then adopt this one, write a phonetic dictionary for it, and then those educated people in that clan or tribe will teach thousands of teachers this language.

And these teachers will now teach it to Nigerians as a mandatory subject. To be identified as a Nigerian or to get employment, you must be able to speak it, else, you're a foreigner and will be treated as such.

Do you know the billions the UK and the US make when Africans write their English efficiency exams? Let Nigeria do this too. In the end, every real Nigerian will know three languages. The new one, your original one and English.

If this is a good idea, click like. If it's a bad idea, click share.

Drop your view for agreeing or disagreeing.

Learning a new language is not as important as seeing where it's going to be leveraged and used.

Unification of common tongue will be relevant if we have 1 heart and speak with 1 mouth. That's what happened with the Tower of Babel.

What are we building?
What are we aiming at as a people and as a nation?

A common tongue will not be difficult to adhere to if we are all geared towards one goal.

English is the business language of the world. But it's so unfortunate that African leaders are too improvident. Hence, we are unable to leverage it for the Black Continent.

If at all we are going to pick a language, it shouldn't be an indigenous language but a common language - Pidgin English.

Pidgin English should be made official. Because as it stands it's a language accepted and understood by the majority.

We should hold that one.

Foreseeing the imminent rise of China to become a world power in a few years from now, Pidgin English + Mandarin should be incorporated into our educational curriculum.

Why?

Because Africa needs China now. Right now. The Chinese are light-years away from us. However, in bilateral or multilateral relationships with them with the understanding of Mandarin and Pidgin English from both ends, there will be ease of doing business and diplomacy. It will even give Africans the leverage to operate in China.

We need to have a unification of mind + spirit before pursuing 1 common tongue.

Thanks.

1. Gambling

Solution: an enabling environment for skill training and earning.

2. Excessive social media consumption.

Solution: engagement in productive work.

3. Debauchery.

Solution: values and virtues should be announced and rewarded consistently.

4. Presence of multiple and confusing information. You get distracted when trying to filter for what you want.

Solution: leaders in all successful spheres of life should be poised to offer a clear road map for achievement.

5. Religion

Faith is a distraction but also a source of strength and courage.

Solution: Encourage them to vividly understand their scriptural texts and history. Because everything they know about religion is pure, utter, unadulterated lies and falsehood.

And for the nation Nigeria:

1. Inability to access and understand our comparative advantage.

Solution: find where our strength lies and leverage it.

2. Poor infusion of technology into manufacturing and industry.

Solution: be diplomatic with Chinese companies in reviving every sector of the economy with their latest science and technology.

3. Poor security welfare.

Solution: pay armsmen handsomely. Reward them for every good job. Protect their integrity and image. Corruption will wither drastically.

4. Immunity for the powerful.

Solution: no one should be above the law. Punish all criminals and corrupt leaders.

5. Bigotry. Nepotism. Incompetence.

Solution: leadership roles should only be assigned to those with solid track records.

Our democratic system should be based on meritocracy rather than mere "government for the people, by the people, and of the people".

Thanks.

Tightpussy2024:
I didn't say broke men don't deserve love. A broke man is rarely in love as money reveals a man character. Alot of closeted gays only found out when they became rich. Have you seen a poor person accused of being gay? Is it men that will sample BDSM when money enter their hand that you want to risk your youth and several abortions for as a woman?

Whatever happens between a broke man and a woman is rarely love(at least from his side). Some will marry out of pity when they make it then keep the women they want as concubine. But ask a man who he wants at 26 sleeping on mat or eating from his mother pot and ask him who he wants again in 6 years time when he has made it.

As for getting sex in the confines of a relationship,I condemn both the rich or poor men using relationship as a means to get sex.

If he wants sex,there are thousands of women he should get sex from but he wants a 9/10..women don't get who they want and most times settle down,so why can't men make that sacrifice of going for who they can afford to have sex with?

Why not take 5000 and go to a remote area,pick a village girl that will jump and appreciate it and have sex with her? Must it be a slay queen on Instagram?

At the bolded,for some reasons the concubines men keep and lavish on are the girls that would have rejected them when they were poor,so they are taking revenge on no one.imagine buying a house for a girl that will not wink at you if you had no millions.
This is why women hate to struggle with poor men. Just like ubunja used to say,"why be the one to offer commitment when others offered nothing but got free sex?" I will rephrase it to be,"why be the one to build with a man when I can be the one that he will buy house for or phones for?" Will you not prefer to be the one that comes later to enjoy or the one that soaked garri with him and you aren't even guaranteed of a ring?
Men commitment is expensive,so should women time and their bodies be expensive.

I really don't like to talk about my personal life but my moniker will tell you I was a baddie and I displaced a "good woman" in a long term relationship .That is why I always laugh when these alpha meils are screaming virtue or virgins.if you think women are emotional,then wait for a man in love.


I can open an equivalent of redpill knowledge for women but people will think I am trying to corrupt women or make them make my "mistakes".

If men practice what they preach a lot of good girls will not remain in their fathers house in their 30s

I like your train of thoughts on this thread.

Nice one.

"Na to continue the gist come be the Koko"

Winks.

Groupoid:


So, approximately 8 months ago; I was dumped by my gf(we're both university students). I don't want to go into details, as to what caused the breakup, but she moved on with another guy(her male bestie), and I'm not completely over her.

So, I believed I've grieved enough, and I'm ready to try dating again. But the problem is rejection. I've gotten so many rejections from females that I had to take a break from asking girls out. Dating as an average guy is very difficult. I just honestly want to give up on it entirely, since I don't even see how I'm going to get a girl here (I school in Edo state, so you know how materialistic the girls are).


I know I'll usually be advised to work hard, make money, and all those stuffs, but there's nothing wrong with me as I am. I know I'm just a student, still dependent on parents; but do I really don't to have a fat bank just to get a girl in University? (I don't go for those high class ladies though. Just the average ones)

I'm asking for your advice sir. Do I just forget about women completely, and just focus on getting my shit right? Making money is not exactly easy here.

I endured a lot of things a guy shouldn't endure from my ex, because I knew I had no options if I broke up with her.

NB: I also have a next to non-existing social life.

This world is really brutal for a man.

1. How do you expect to have a rapport with women when your social life is zero? Will they come and meet you inside your house?

2. In 2025 and beyond, you can't be an introvert first before getting anything in this life. Else, you'll languish alone.

Be what you want to be first before metamorphosing into an introvert.

3. You want women. There's nothing wrong with that.

Don't rationalize it. Don't pretend about it.

4. Those university girls are not interested in a serious relationship. So, foolish of them. (I will not digress).

So, you too, don't come with the mindset of a serious relationship. Except you luckily find a homely and modest woman.

5. Be lively. Be jovial. Smell nice.

Nobody cares about your 2k long sleeves. Just iron it well and use good body sprays.

Don't act needy. Roll with the boys. Roll with the girls.

Start practicing with your coursemates and faculty colleagues.

Play. Be fun to be with. Don't be timid.

Another secret: experiment with your barber till you get the perfect haircut. Jeez!

You are not average bro. Maintain your small standard.

Babes will fall in pleasant places for you.

6. Use the library. Go to night class. Attend a local church.

Put yourself in places where women are abundant. At the end, there will always be that 1 woman that will have a genuine desire for you.

7. You don't need a fat bank to reach this stage.

Dead that mindset.

At any stage you find yourself as man, a beautiful romance can happen.

I understand that we are in a hyper-social media culture today. But that shouldn't discourage you.

There are many good women outside that are waiting to bag you if you prove your masculinity and competence.

Everything is not about money, money, money.

You must learn how to get women without pillaging your pocket.

8. Don't complain.

Put in the work.

You can't tell me that you are the ugliest or least average in that faculty not to even talk of the university.

Bro, come out from your closet and catch the fun by yourself.

Nothing will happen until you make deliberate romantic efforts.

Thanks.