NewStats: 3,265,241 , 8,186,104 topics. Date: Saturday, 14 June 2025 at 02:57 AM 6i2k4l

Well, I intend to go all out naija style. J.Rice, salad, moimoi, fried fish,plaintain,wine and 2 laxatives.

Salam brother mine. Its easier said than done. I tried to have my father converted as my middle name while adopting his, citing the islamic reasons and because of my certificates, and he said No, its against our "culture". EventuaLly, I had to drop my father's name completely. Most times, where there is a clash between accepted cultural practices and islam doctrines, the former always seems to come up on top.

Awesome figure. Face.....not so much. I think her makeup is a classic example of why less is sometimes more. Season greetings to her family.

Les: and for d fact he's not eating ur food doesn't mean he's not eatin any food else where, dont you get it?? And it would worsene if he gets dat food from another woman cos you get to a man's heart through his stomach. Wives might not know it, unless hubby is a natural cheat, they constitute 80%of why hubbys cheat, ask any cheating hubby!!

You really should read a thread before commennting, or atleast where someone else comment is coming from before posting, cos if u had done that, u would have known d above doesn't apply/relate to my post/posts.

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D-Explorer:

Young woman, not eating is not a guy thing. It's the way your husby chooses to satisfy his anger and get you to understand the situation.

Young Man, pray tell how deliberate Starvation helps me understand the "situation" better than a good old fashioned arguement?

What does it profit a man to satisfy his anger rather than his hunger? See rhyming...anger...hunger.#Poetic Genius

That's my husband M.O. It drives so mad when he refuses to eat after a disagreement. This is someone that loves to eat. Unfortunately for me, i have not reached the mindset where his refusal to eat doesn't bother me cos i worry about him, and i really hate to waste food.i wish we could just fight without the food rejection. Gats to settle with him so he can eat. I may have set a bad precedence by always ending the fight when he enters his hunger mode, but he is like my first born child. His health comes b4 my pride. Always thought it was peculiar to my hubby but i guess its a guy thing.

The OP mentioned time and time again that he was a christain. Yet some "God-fearing" christains have proceeded to insult muslims. What concerns muslims with this thread? Did the OP make any comparison? God is watching all of us.

fellis:
So you believe men are superior to you? Do you believe that those agberos and pick pockets in motor parks are superior to you? They are also men.

Where in my post did you get the inference that men are superior to women? I tire for u. Its impossible to get gender equality cos men and women are unique in their differences. What we need is gender equity that provides for the uniqueness of both parties. Male and female. Simple english oooo

As a woman,i don't believe in gender equality. No such thing. If not, there should be paternity leave as well. Men and women are different. What we should strive for is gender EQUITY (fairness). We should have rules that cater to the uniqueness of both sexes. If i as a woman put in d same amount of work as u, a man does, i deserve the same pay and vice versa.

People like Balkan should be ignored. Internet trouble makers.

This was on Yahoo 2 months ago. Why do old news make front page? The boy died after asking for water. There was a scientific explanation for what happened. Can't recall what it was again.

I have been following the report for a while. They didn't "flop". They are not God. There were seismic activities and tremors at that time and in Italy in general. There was no way they coUld tell. Ofcourse the only alternative was to forecast an earthquake anytime there is a tremor and create unnecessary panic if it didn't happen, I am sure they would have been jailed for that as well. Earthquakes can happen in a nanosecond and isn't like rain (which itself has a 50 50 chance). Science isn't absolute. Scientists are not gods. Its sad that people would now be afraid to do their jobs for fear of being arrested.

fellis:

Oh common, a year of pain?
The thing is variable, while some people might have pain that lasts for months, some others are good to go as from 2weeks.
Anyway, my mind is already made up so this point doesn't matter to me.

2 weeks ke?? I laugh! I know your mind is made up so I am not trying to change your mind but CS is first and foremost a major stomach SURGERY. No one heals from a major surgery in 2 weeks. Being fit to move around for 2 weeks doesn't mean u are well o. Doctors won't even let u exercise until after 6 weeks. The stitches can get infected, the stomach takes much longer to return to shape, you can only have done 3 times, meaning NO more than 3 kids for you, yada yada yada. If u want to avoid pain, u can opt for epidural. Even if that has its own side effects, but then again, what doesn't?

linearity: In this day and age of advanced medical breakthroughs and simple medications like epidural, etc....

I think having a painful labor or child birth is now optional. A lot of women choose not to have anything to do with these drugs believing that the side effect on the mother/baby out weighs the benefits...other choose not to because, they prefer the old school method.

But whatever the situation, advances in medicine have made this an option. If you hate the pains, choose to skip at your next appointment with the delivery room.

My dear friend, the side effects DO make it unattractive. Advances in medicine are there to aid in complications in child birth, not just to help women who rather not go thru pains o! These "aids" are sometimes detrimental as it can lead to prolonged labour which in turn leads to CS. Most hospitals even in advanced countries advocate for natural birth. Recovery time easier. Use epidural and all those advanced medical help BECAUSE u NEED them, not just becos u want them.

That's what makes any crime a muslim commits look "unique" not as if christains(forget the psycho KONY) or hindus don't kill,just not in Gods name.

Forget the psycho Kony How convenient.

alienvirus: OK. Please suggest to the OP what you see as problems. Let's assume you have successful debunked OP's perception not conclusion. I personally assume OP didn't state his case well enough. Kindly state your own perception and give solutions. OP may not be thinking in your direction. I hope this doesn't derail the thread as it conforms with the topic.

hmmmmm.... what do i see as the major problem of islam? hmmmm..... US......(not United States o)..... you and i. The so called 'true" muslims. There is so much misconceptions about islam. So much. A lot of atrocities are being committed "in the name of Allah". A lot of mis-informations are being spread about the religion. And what do we liberal muslims do? We sit down and keep mute. We don't come out and condemn with loud voices. We don't come out and say no "islam doesnt preach this." 'the fact that some fanatics claim to be doing some extreme acts in the name of Islam doesn't mean its acceptable'. Case and point- Joseph Kony, rebel leader/ self proclaimed prophet killing in the name of Christ but no one attributes it to the whole Christianity cos they loudly condemn the actions. We whisper here and there but generally keep mute; but we get angry when we read christians writing nasty things . The day the world sees that Islam as a true and good religion, albeit tainted by some extremists, the better for us, but not until the true muslims stand and widely condemn violence against women, suicide bombing and any sort of killings, riots or whatever in the of Allah or Mohammed (SAW). That's what i believe is our major challenge. From there, we can move to re-orientation of the extremists.

BUT that's not the issues brought up by the OP and i do not intend to derail his thread by bringing in my own beliefs of the challenges that muslims face. SO there.

alienvirus: Don't follow! If you have never found any problem in the islamic society in Nigeria either material or non material, step aside ma.

U don't have to be rude to get your point across. I am saying I am saying based on the OP's list of problems, I don't see the problem. I do agree we have a problem with intolerant muslims who do not know how to have a simple intellectual conversation without getting dramatic. I don't have to step aside.(Hint. Hint) Why would I be bringing up issues different from what the OP has opined? ShEesh!

alienvirus:

I don't think the OP is only talking about the secular world. If not, why did he mention local alfas. Let me assume again that he is talking about secular world only, are the muslims not part of the world? Can you do without materials? Materials and secular obsession is what islam frowns against. You can't say because car is secular and I can't use it.

If what you limit your understanding on this topic is islamic part of it, please what is the way out? They are all begging for answers. I want to learn from you sir/ma.

Actually, he was only talking of secular knowledge. if not he wont have said this
Why are muslims only concerned with asalatu and not scholarly knowledge e[/b]specially down the South. Give a muslim locally known alfa 5 minutes talk on air (in English language, you will be amazed with what you will hear.[b] How many muslims are professors? I had a chat with a doctor in media society yesterday. He told me that in the South-West, for more than 50 years, no Muslim professor in media setting could be found.

i fail to see the connection with what you posted and the question being asked. the OP thinks there is a problem with muslims with Nigeria due to us limiting our potentials, or something along that line. I don't think there is. What does that have to do with us being part of this world and secular?? where did i say because something is secular means you cant use it. i don't follow you.

tbaba1234:

Sister,

1. I agree, many muslims serve in managerial positions and as of boards of major cooporations.

2. I do think we face a fundamental problem here because many of these organizations are not connected to the youth. There is a real dearth in Islamic education amongst muslim youth in Nigeria and many of these organizations are disconnected from them. So I agree with the OP on this point.

3 & 4 . Well, I do feel that many muslim sisters do not know their rights Islamically. Many are simply not knowledgeable enough so they succumb to what they have been told. There is a problem with Islamic education in Nigeria. I find it difficult to get a Nigerian Muslim Dawah Organization with a website (There are a feww )... That is like a basic requirement for any organization. How do you connect with the youth? So my dear sister, I disagree with you.. The youths are disconnected from the old folks and disconnected from the essence of their deen. The Organizations are not active and our women do not have the proper education. Except many things have changed, friday TV was not that great. Plus, It is all yoruba. I agree that there are some knowledgeable people but not nearly enough. Many local alfas know very little about the deen and you will be shocked about the things they say.

5. I agree with you!

There are problems with muslims in Nigeria.

My dear brother from the same mother,
The OP is NOT talking of islamic education, so I think u are mixing it up. He is talking of normal secular education ALONE(at least that's what I decipher) But if I am to respond on islamic education, honestly we should face it. We need the koran to be written in English more. Most of us cram the koran in sing-song, but had no idea what we were saying (guilty!). We are not arabs. English would make the koran more accessible. Ofcourse there is a disconnect between the youths and organizations. Boils down to understanding the book and English.
I concur 100 percent with u that if people truly knew what the koran says about women, they would realize that we are held in the highest pedestal, but people leave it to the alfas to interpret it for them. The Alfas are ruled more by their african mentality towards women more than the teachings of the Koran. Then again, if people (women) had more access to d koran in English, they would read things for themselves.
Bottom line and in caveman lingo, English good! English very good.

First of all, i think your assessment/research is deeply flawed.
1. Muslims are not lagging behind in any activity.And they do go to school. The qualified ones are in managerial positions and i don't think that religion has any business with who is in managerial position. its all about qualifications. The fact that there are only 2 muslims in your establishment doesn't mean that there are not more in another establishment if they are qualified.
2. As a muslim, i personally have a problem with limiting vacancies to a religious domination. Must it be a muslim mechanical engineer?? We are the same people that would complain about federal character later. Besides, the moslem associations are quite active, Nasfat and An sureedeen. They focus more on charity and helping the needy. You cant compare us to countries that have conquered basic social amenities issues that we are still dealing with.
3. I don't know what you mean by media of our own. There are thousands of Islamic programs on TV and many sites online dedicated to the Koran. The Koran preaches education for both men and women without discrimination. Here in the middle east where i am, women are holding high ranking positions contrary to popular beliefs. SO the perceived lack of education is a 'Nigerian' factor not an Islamic one. ok?
4. Perhaps you should watch more Friday television. You might have a rethink. Do you see the number of Islamic intellectuals, not the local alfas but well travelled , well researched men and WOMEN that are featured on these shows especially during the Ramadan period??
5. This is like saying only christains dominates Onitsha parks. IF there are lots of muslims residing in a particular area, chances are there are likely to have muslims youths working in the parks. Have u done a census to determine your assertion that they are more muslims in parks or is it because you see them gathering to pray? it shouldn't even matter if the parks have christians, Muslims,traditionalists, as long as it is honest work. That's all that matters to Allah.
In summary, nothing is wrong with muslims in Nigeria. There is no competition between us, christians, atheists, or traditionalists. Shey na Heaven we all wan go.

Me I don't hate the song. I think its cute. And for those insulting her for being rude to her "fans" on twitter have conveniently forgot that she was responding to several insults she was getting there.(I follow her so I read them) We seem to hold our celebrities to some extra-moral standards that we don't intend to attain ourselves. See how insults dey fly for Nairaland. But we don't expect a "celebrity" to react. She is an actress, not a role model. Before all this wahala, I didn't even care about the babe, but let her be jo

I actually like the song. Quite catchy. I have heard worse from Goldie, Genevieve and Omotola. The lyrics r abysmal but most Naija songs have horrendous lyric. Free the babe o!

iyke648: freecocoa iz any of d ALUU 4 ur boyfrend? Haba u don too take diz case personal. If u must knw, d highest punishment 4 doz culprit na lyf inprisonment. Simple. Some pipo 4 NL sef too get mouth. If dem giv u knife make u kil person nw u fit do am? Itz not by sittin beside pc kon dey typ rauwbish.SMH 4 diz jungle PC NLanderz

Point of correction. We do have capital punishment for voluntary homicide, treason and armed robbery. So the max punishment is death. The rest of your comment is alrite.

iyke648: freecocoa iz any of d ALUU 4 ur boyfrend? Haba u don too take diz case personal. If u must knw, d highest punishment 4 doz culprit na lyf inprisonment. Simple. Some pipo 4 NL sef too get mouth. If dem giv u knife make u kil person nw u fit do am? Itz not by sittin beside pc kon dey typ rauwbish.SMH 4 diz jungle PC NLanderz

Point of correction. We do have capital punishment for voluntary homicide, treason and arm robbery. So the max punishment is death. The rest of your comment is alrite.

Billyonaire: What an irony. The girl was flogged, and the men were not. Islam is always pro-men and women are treated like animals. Imagine that black blanket they cover all over their body even under hot sun. Islam even permit men to marry many women as if women are goats that you can just buy and keep at the barn. Say no to humiliation of women. Say no Barbarism in Islam.

Do not mistake the primitive cultures of some tribes for the teachings of Islam. If u can, google the treatment of women in the koran and u would be surprised. Women are highly regarded in the Quoran. Quoran 2.187 "they(woman) are a vestment for u and you are a vestment for them". The Quoran also provides that a child should give his love and respect and honour (after Allah) to his mother, his mother, his mother and then his father(can't the citation). It also provides that a woman isn't required to change her last name and can disobey her husband in this regard.The Quoran provides both gender must be educated. See the great women of the Koran Aisha and khajjidat. They were great narrators of those times. It also provides that "no widow shall be remarried without consultation and no virgin shall be married without her consent". Does this seem like a religion that advocates for violence against women? Note nowhere in the Quoran does it say that woman is responsible for the fall of man (Adam) or was the instrument of the devil. It refers to women as the fortitude against evil.
al nisa 4.19
"Oh for ye who believes, you are forbidden from inheriting women against their will, nor treat them with harshness that u shall take any part of the dower you have given them, except when they are guilty of open lewdness. On the contrary,live with them on a kindness and equity...." Let me not get into the quotes on household, divorce and inheritance. My point is don't criticize what u don't know. Arabs have a very harsh culture towards women and we in the western world take it as the teachings of the Quoran, but if one actually does his research on the subject, he might be pleasantly surprised. A true muslim man would treat his wife like a queen. Sadly, we ignore the books when it comes to women.

if i can summarize, the girl was in SHOCK, despite the fact that she was her brother and as a result, she couldnt act. She might have been killed alongside her brother. (the people videoing didnt even get a glimpse of her, but thats not my point). Likewise the fool videoing the event who was also in SHOCK that he could do nothing more but film, but recovered well enough to post it around the world. he might have been killed alongside the boy. Likewise some of the ALUU community (except those screaming "kill", "kill') who were also in SHOCK by the brutality been exhibited by their fellow villagers. So all in all, it was a SHOCKING day for everyone

I fit tiRe for Nigerians sha. You guys have cursed and abused the Aluu community for standing by and doing nothing and now that its one of the victim's sister, its suddenly ok? She was in shock. She would have beeen killed too? Now its perfectly reasonable that she didn't do anything. Hypocrisy will not kill us.
That being said, bo, I have 3 brothers and I WILL not stand by and watch them beaten to death. Which bloody shock. Whether na cry, whether na to provoke, I will sha react. How can I possibly live with myself if I was there and did nothing? This is my blood. At that time. My own preservation is furthest from my mind.

kaodili:

Those boys were not just killed they were tortured badly,before they were killed, Agreed Jungle Justice is one and the same in whatever form it comes,however Aluu Community exhibited wickedness,by torturing those boys for hours before killing them. Who made them judge and jury.those boys phones were never retrieved,they were stolen in that same crowd. I don't tink any form of jungle justice should be condoned(uniport attack inclusive)however the deed has being done,luckily for them no lives were lost on their side,what I do find disgusting is people ranting abt wat dey knw nutin abt,attacking the character of the Aluu4 nd exhibiting their callousness here.

Jungle justice always comes with torture. You beat before u kill. That being said, I agree with u that people shouldn't attack the characters of the boys cos we don't know the truth about their characters. Same way we shouldn't attack d characters of the Aluu community as a whole. I believe someone wrote that there was a mixed cry of "stop" and "kill them kill them" in the video. Perhaps those who had the stomach to watch d film can confirm. You never know what wasn't captured on camera. For all we know, most of the saner people had already left for work and all we had were women and some unemployed vagabonds who took advantage. No one wants to hear ALuu's side. They may even be willing to fetch d guilty parties amongst them. I have seen that happen before, but now as it is, I doubt. Nobody is even thinking of the long term effect d students and other students who go to that school would suffer for years to come. There is no winner in this.

Okija juju, let it go. Despite all you have written, some people are not ready to view this rationally. You can only try so hard. Its ironic that this would be the same people that would come out tomorrow and insult islam and ask why some muslims are violent. We have heard too many versions of what happened that night to ever know the truth. You think the 5th guy would come out and say "yes we are cultists and armed robbers". The truth is we will never know if the boys were innocent or guilty. However, that shouldn't matter. No body deserved what they got.
When I was 8 years old, on my way to school, I saw a crowd beating 2 men accused of armed robbery. My uncle later told me that the men were burnt with tyres. The next week, the rest of the gang was caught and they said only one of the two burnt men was with them. They had no idea who d other guy was. Probably someone who was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Before then, everyone was saying good for the robbers, then people started saying they should have interrogated first. As if they are the police to interrogate. My point is when in rage, you can destroy lives, both the innocent and the guilty. When in rage, u are no different than the "animals" that u are fighting against. Aluu is not the first community to kill alleged "arm robbers". Destroying thEm isn't sending a message that jungle justice is bad. Its simply sending a message that next time u want to burn "armed robbers", plant guns beside them. Nigerians won't complain then.

colly227:

Are you related to the silly idris that tweets don't poo in public

Are you related to Colly Gee that killed 12 school children in 2002?? Silly question begets silly question