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Did I miss something on the question Trevor Noah asked Chimamanda? Should a feminist insist on retaining the ‘perks’ of the patriarchy e.g men must hold doors for women? I’m paraphrasing here, but basically that was the question. Should Chimamanda have said “yes, men must open doors”? Wouldn't that be logically fraudulent and inconsistent with the feminist message? What exactly is the argument about? Freaking razzz site.
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Tollzara: Oh you're tired of writing childish insults... ![]() Let's go Your unborn children and their mother who sucked your father's pe.nis. 2 Likes |
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Tollzara: Your mama. 2 Likes |
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[quote author=Futureberry post=65133805][/quote] Dude or dudette, I'm too confident in myself to be worried about the 'other'. 2 Likes |
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Sagamite: Very good! Let everybody know where they stand. The moment I meet a Nigerian man, I shout it well well - FEMINIST ni mi. ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
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Tohzara: More Childish comebacks. Tehehe! None of you have the wherewithal to discuss this subject. Kill yaself if it's too hard to swallow! ![]() See im dirty mouth like 'chivalry'. Lmao ![]() 2 Likes |
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Tohzara: Absolute rubbish! Now let me show you where you shoot yourself in the foot and disgrace your lineage... What exactly is nationalism in any Nigerian language? What exactly is communism in any Nigerian language? What exactly is feminism in any Nigerian language? You don't have any sense. Bulls eye. None of you have the wherewithal to discuss the subject and have nothing useful and meaningful to take on the subject. Live with it! Codes and conduct of chivalry are not 'subjective'. They are organized, well laid out rules that 'polite' society lived by in the West. They are not random rules plucked out of ya asses to insinuate 'subjectivity'. Get out of here with your rubbish. Enough of your bullshiit. Did the mediaval knights who claimed to be beacons of chivalry cook for their women? Weren't they sexist motherfucking asholes too? Being protective of women and considering them creatures to be handled courteously is itself founded upon sexism, and subscribing to gender roles----considering women to be meant only for the kitchen---isn't incompatible with chivalry. Sexist men can be chivalrous. You just keep yarning crap. That reply was a soft-landing response, since you decided to include your 'fragile emotions' ![]() Bullcrap. Anything can be discussed on this forum. This statement is absolutely senseless and morönic. Anything can be discussed by people who are WELL VERSED on the subject. Not interested in your KINDERGARTEN analysis and ZERO experiences. What is the entire point of this thread? Isn't it to discuss whether demanding for chivalry from the male folk as a matter of obligation without expecting any from the women is sexist and incompatible with feminism? Isn't that what you just confirmed right here? You answered "NO", and still senselessly believe yourself to be arguing against the point of my thread by calling it "nonsense". Olodo. Olodo rabata. You have just disgraced yourself that you don't know ANYTHING about codes and conduct. I have been PROVEN right. End of discussion! Also, what exactly is there to discuss, if feminism = gender equality, does it take astronomical science to know that chivalry should not be gender specific. I guess, unless you are an imbe.cile it has to be spelt out to you in lay language. Stupid, irrelevant topics like this on the Nigerian blogosphere are a total distraction to the REAL, CRIMINAL, DEADLY issues that plague the Nigerian female such as punitive widowhood rites, sexual crimes and child marriages. It is only for badly behaved men to have penile erections over. Look at how you 'came' all over the thread and started throwing 'childish' insults because I alerted you to your inexperience to the subject. Get out of here! Dead, useless thread. 4 Likes |
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Tohzara: Whether you are Nigerian or an Iraqi, THIS IS A NIGERIAN BLOG. And things will be argued as applicable to the Nigerian context. What exactly is chivalry in any Nigerian language? And how is it 'practiced'? What are the codes and conducts of Nigerian male 'chivalrous' acts to women? 2) It makes zero sense to make generalizations such as this about Nigerian men. I am a "Nigerian man", and I'm 1 billion percent sure I do not fit into any of your ridiculous stereotypes. Stereotype you? Lmao! It is NOT a 'generalization' when majority can't fathom that something as fickle as cooking is not a genetic disposition to only females. Our culture has never enforced 'chivalry'. That is Nigeria's MORES AND NORM. One Nigerian male with the semblance of 'Jesus Christ' out of 90 million can NEVER be statistically significant. 3) Whether this issue is being discussed by Nigerians, the alleged lack of chivalry by Nigerian men notwithstanding, is irrelevant and meaningless, as I asked a question about chivalry and feminism as universally defined, and no where in my OP did I demand or require a consideration in the Nigerian context. It is VERY relevant to the discussion. Am I Western? No. Am I on a Western board? No. Is this a Nigerian website? Yes! WHAT You had better NOT twist my words. The FEMINIST position to your nonsense thread is to provide such courtesies or 'chivalry' to both sexes or don't do it at all. To provide 'ordinary' courtesies should NEVER be gender specific. 5 Likes 1 Share |
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I find it absolutely absurd Nigerians talking about 'chivalry'. Does Chivalry exist in the Nigerian context? Are Nigerian men 'chivalrous' to Nigerian women? The origins of this word which has medieval knightly symbolism has absolutely nothing to do with Africans. Modern western applications of the word like 'holding the car door for women', "offering" your jackets when it's "cold", has absolutely nothing to do with us. Nigerian men were/are NEVER chivalrous. Nigerian women have never benefited from this 'chivalry' culture. Where we come from women SERVE men and not the other way round. This topic is dead on arrival and not applicable in our context. It should be 'debated' on a Western board. They are the ones that know what they mean by their 'chivalry'. However, The FEMINIST language is to give courtesy to everybody, i.e to show politeness in one's attitude and behavior toward others. Holding the doors for people (no gender specificity) is polite. That is the FEMINIST view. Very simple and clear. And Sagamite, the word FEMINIST is a very good tool to weed off badly behaved Nigerian males from ones life. Very, very effective and less stressful. As long as evil customs engineered by the patriarchy exists and parades itself as culture, religion and tradition, feminism MUST co-exist with it. Yes, it's been a long while, just ed this site exists, thought Seun would have killed this nuisance site eons ago. I am back to torment your soul. ![]() 7 Likes |
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If you educate a man you educate an individual, but if you educate a woman you educate a family (nation). No be me talk am, na one man in the 19th century talk am. 5 Likes |
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cococandy: Absolutely. I feel like giving uppercuts to the black women ing in this nonsense black lives matter mantra which should in truth actually be 'black men's life matter'. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The biggest racism a black woman receives day in day out comes from BLACK MEN! More than half of black girls have been sexually assaulted before the age of 18. Which one requires urgency from me? Some 'police brutality over a black man we have to pray he is not a thug in order to find an ounce of credibility in his story' or damning statistic about girls getting raped by BLACK MEN before the age of 18?' Bloody hell!!! Black women wake up!!!! ![]() 6 Likes |
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TV01: I'm pretty fine!!! ![]() They are 'exodusing' to the land of options and FOREIGN opportunities. ![]() African American women have been sold the disastrous ideology of black men only. Not any more! The black community is toxic. Over 60% of black women have been sexually assaulted before they reach 18. Any sensible black woman would have as little as possible association with the toxic black community. http://sojournersport.com/last-call-to-evacuate-black-residential-areas-before-the-peace-walls-go-up/ Numerous blogs have been set up to aid in the campaign of killing this damning 'black men' ideology. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
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Adaeze003: Buhahaha!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() 9 Likes |
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Subom1: Buhahaha. Was it a thread on you preferring white men? Lol. Please say Yes, cos I know He's always extra petty about such issues. ![]() At the end of it all I blame African American women for overhyping the black man and being the mouthpiece for black women worldwide. Growing up and till now I never saw black men on any damn pedestal. I could date any race I wanted. Dating pattern was/is not exclusive to black men. What a boring life to live to be exclusive to black men. ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
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fellis: It was not my intention to be honest. But who the cap fits, let 'em wear it. ![]() Young black girls need to be aware of this toxic elements in their society. The more militant a black man is on black issues, the more he is in dire need of white pu.ssy. ![]() They also HATE seeing black women with white men. ![]() The black power thing is just a smokescreen for deeper issues. The black community is very toxic. My advice to any girl is to run away from it. 3 Likes |
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Shymmex FINALLY BEING HIMSELF! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Never fell for the UNNECESSARY allegiance to the 'black queens' semblance you've been deceiving yourself with since you ed this board. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Black women CANNOT and WILL NOT be controlled! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This topic isn't new, there are a thousand and one of it on the internet and NL. Black women have heard worse and we did not die! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Kanwulia where you dey? ![]() 7 Likes 1 Share |
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cococandy: Shes's a misogynist. A foot soldier for all the bad things associated with patriarchy. ![]() I seriously hope she has no post in the church especially the department for young girls. We all need to be watchful on who is teaching our young girls in church. I don put am for my agenda already. ![]() ![]() I will so screen my girls after every church service. We must catch every strange or fraudulent view being propagated by the church. ![]() 5 Likes |
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bukatyne: Thank you dear. Nevertheless, if I lived in Nigeria, I would have considered it a much greater risk marrying early without a career or source of income or finishing school. Feminists have laid down the ground work for women to be protected in the West. They can afford to have this discussion. I consider early marriage to a Nigerian male especially living in Nigeria very high risk. ![]() ![]() The marriage institution in Nigeria is not protected. Factors like brideprice in some ethnic groups already sets the tone for the position of the female in the marriage. Before talking about early marriage, are Nigerian women protected in marriage per se? I think our discussion should be about institutionalizing policies to protect the female in marriage first. This would give her the opportunity to have an array of choices like her Western counterparts on whether she wants to marry early or not. 7 Likes 1 Share |
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bukatyne: I don't even believe in dating different people because 'I'm young and wanna have fun in my teens or 20s.' It is a WASTE of my time. I didn't do it. I just caught one guy in my early 20s and kept him on lock down ever since. Lmao. You don't even need all those clubbing nonsense or having guy friends to enjoy life fully. I consider them unnecessary baggage. Men friends bore the heck out of me. I dunno how women do it. ![]() 8 Likes 2 Shares |
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In the West, there are institutionalized policies to protect women in and outside marriage, in and outside their careers. Feminists have done the ground work to enable women be spoilt for choices. Moreover this sounds like White women experiences not the black woman experience in the West which is often different. Not only that by 23, these women are done with school. I really can't say the same for Nigerian women or men born in the 80's or 90's. Our parents enjoyed such privileges though before Nigeria went to the dust. I didn't have such luxury. Before the advent of private universities, you almost don't get a mere bearing of your life until you are racing for your 30's because of university strikes and economic hardship. The economy most of the time will determine whether you marry early or not and the Nigerian man a woman marries is a strong factor if that career will even take off after marriage. Most people who take off school or career path find it hard to go back could be for personal reasons or financial reasons. It is good for the husband to be well to do before going on this path. Not only well to do but is a champion of your dreams. Before entering this marriage, I take God beg you, sign an agreement with witnesses. ![]() This marriage before/after career decision is often shaped by your upbringing. In my home, it wasn't spoken in lay , but we the children all knew we had to finish school, have a career before marriage. When I got done with my masters, my parents congratulated me and said 'after this I hope you'll go for a PhD' lmao. 17 Likes 1 Share |
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greatgod2012: I disagree. It's actually the anti-gender equality female that feels she's entitled to being pampered financially by the male. Patriarchy requires the male to provide. This female here is only following and abiding by the rules. 5 Likes |
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3. Why do this category of women (Mrs My Father's Name) love to eat their cake and have it? Huh? I'm not privy to feminists women struggling for a Mrs. tag. I'm much privy to them rejecting that tag. These women go by the title Ms. which is a neutral alternative to Miss or Mrs. This accords them ambiguity to marital status. It's like the Mr. title of men where there's no distinction given to married or single men. You can't tell if a man is married or not, neither can you tell if a woman is married with a Ms. title. 5 Likes |
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Nigerian parties are typically disorganized. We still need to learn a thing or two about 'following an agenda'. Nevertheless, Yoruba parties ARE THE BEST in Nigeria, everyone knows this. OP is just being silly. Igbo parties? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 6 Likes 1 Share |
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AjaanaOka: Yes he was. ChinenyeN: Lol, can you imagine? I think one of the problems is that we are heavily reliant on folklore or word of mouth to propagate our customs. We are in a modern world now. We need like a constitution to write these things down. When there is no written law, anyone can wake up any day and do whatever they like. Village/town meetings don't seem to address these issues. Two years ago or so, my dad dragged us all to the Awka Union meeting, and I was disappointed. Although they were heavily involved in philanthropic ventures, I was expecting to see a thorough discussion of the customs, especially this kingship thing and gender relations (a lot of protections females had have been discarded) and how we can fit them in this modern world. It was more of a get together party. When I read old books on the Igbo, there is this consistent need in the Igbo to participate in discourse of their customs and amend where necessary to fit into an era. 3 Likes |
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ChinenyeN: My great grandfather was one of the Igbo 'royal' personalities recognized by Queen Victoria during colonial rule and introduced this kingship thing. The British often reiterates how they did not 'impose' royal families on the Igbo, but that these royal families already existed. I believe the better word here should be 'prominent' not royal...prominent or accomplished families most likely Ozo titled men. Anyway, on my great grandfather's death bed, he warned all his children not to continue the tradition of kingship, that it was not the Igbo way. He told them not to fight for it, and according to my dad there are some curses associated with his kin fighting for it (my dad may have just exaggerated the curse part for emphasis). That is why in Awka today, it is not my family name that comes up under this pseudo-monarchy. I Radoillo putting up a thread on the history of Awka, and he said concerning the traditional Political Structure of Modern Awka: The Current monarch of the town, Obi Gibson Nwosu, the Eze Ụzụ II of Awka is only the third monarch in the town’s history – after Ichie Obuora Nnebe, the Ichie of Awka (he rejected the title of ‘Eze’ and chose ‘Ichie’ instead), and Obi Alfred Chikwukadibie Ndigwe, the Eze Ụzụ I. Before the adoption of the monarchy in the twentieth Century, Awka was governed by elders and ọzọ titled men. It's embarrassing how these personalities want to legitimize this monarchy thing. I hope these people understand, they are just representatives of the people at social functions and mediators. That's all! I hope they are not there giving orders. I only have respect for Ichie Obuora Nnebe who rejected the title of Eze and chose Ichie instead. I think at the end of it all, we have ourselves to blame. Charlatans and illiterates are the ones mostly interested in traditional politics. Most of us are not even at home. Also Nollywood has helped in propagating this lie that Igboland was a Monarchical government. 5 Likes |
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TV01: Even during the process of healing and restitution, 'Compensation (monetary-wise)' can make the heart more forgiving and malleable. ![]() If the cheater (which I predict would be more likely Nigerian men, hahaha ![]() ![]() |
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crackhaus: Absolutely, I'm not infallible, that is why my submissions are not just exclusive to other people, but includes myself. ![]() |
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crackhaus: Physically hurt? As I said, heartbreak raises the blood pressure and stress levels. This encomes the term physically hurt. ![]() [b]A marriage where there is 'cheating and adultery' is already on its way to being dissolved should it be so desired, which is why divorce laws take over thence to make sure no one is left disenfranchised coming out of it. Many Nigerian married couples would disagree. ![]() Only God has sole authority in penalizing an adulterer for breaking his/her vows. The government should be least bit interested in 'stopping' adultery, that is for religious houses to do. The government would be/is focused on making money in regards to Nigeria being currently broke. It would definitely make money from the 'adultery' industry. lmao! ![]() ![]() What it can do is tell an adulterer "well now that you've done it, you or your spouse may get a divorce and we will see to it that the innocent party gets treated fairly". That is not enough. Hence the fines to discourage people from entering the institution and make money off idiots who went into it on an emotional high. |
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crackhaus: I am not arguing within the confines of today's laws. I am introducing a new bill to sanitize the marriage institution, that's all. ![]() No one has died, but heartbreak raises stress levels and can give you high blood pressure. No one has died, but the crime against a husband is the chief crime the majority of women in prisons committed. No one has died, but this thread was spurred on by death and violence in marriage. No one has died, but 30% of women who are murdered are killed by their spouses. Don't you think it's time we put certain blocks like my suggested stipulated fines to prevent abnormal people from entering into the institution? |
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raumdeuter: I think the problem here is that we have different definition of what marriage is. Civilizations were built on marriage. Kingdoms and empires were/are strengthened through marriage. Marriage is greater than the fickleness we have ascribed to it. Butterflies in your stomach under the definition of hollywood love (not bliblical love) in marriage is just an added bonus to the institution. ![]() I am not getting married because of butterflies in my belly, but to build my empire and raise healthy, viable, well adjusted offspring under the auspices of mother and father. ![]() Fortunately and unfortunately the world is now liberal to encourage 'cohabitation' and other forms of queer relationships. My question now Must people with a tendency to be capricious and fickle get married? If one is that fickle concerning their emotions, shouldn't one save himself/herself by not getting married at all? See there will be the option of divorce, but you will be fined for it. If you go against the tenets of what marriage predicate, you should be sanctioned and fined for it. Or don't get married. 2 Likes |
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crackhaus: It will reduce the tendency of people making a damn mockery of the marriage institution. A marriage where there is cheating, adultery, domestic violence is not a marriage, but a potential for unleashing dysfunction into the society. Please the people should either pay a fine, divorce or preferable do not get married. Only genuine people should have the honor of being married. It will bring dignity to the word marriage in the long run. ![]() I mean people can cohabit, divorce, and not get married at all. These are all the other options. What is the problem? ![]() In fact let me add again, if you want to get married a second time, you must pay a damn fine. ![]() ![]() |
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crackhaus: Most people in the US are not even privy to these laws. ![]() Also the premise is not that since it is applicable in the US, it should now be enforced in Nigeria. Absolutely not. My argument is independent of the United States. I highlighted the US because these suggestions are not new nor groundbreaking. Now Nigeria boasts of being highly religious, and champion marriage. Nigerians arrive at most conclusions and decisions through religion and culture. Now the two religious entities (christian/muslim) frown against adultery. What better way to curb adultery than sanctioning it? There are little protections given to spouses during the marriage. Why do we have to focus on outside the marriage (divorce) for the disenfranchised spouse to be protected? |
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