the government has heard the cries of its people
1.drug dealers centre's will be decisively dealt with
2.all illegal immigrants will be deported back to their shi..t holes
......
I laugh at the above because of the below
Pre 1994 South Africa...... We are suffering because of Apatheid. Apatheid and the Nationalist govt must go
Post 1994 South Africa.... WE are suffering because too much wealth in the hands of the Whites. White Priviledge must go
Post BEE South Africa..... We are suffering because the Tenderpreneurs are getting a peace of the action and we are not. . Zuma must Go with his corruption.
Post 2008...... We are suffering because Foreigners have come to our country and are taking our jobs, stealing our women and mes our country. Foreigners must go!
Post 2015.... We are still suffering because......
sostoz:
foreigners did not take my job if they take ma job ill get onother job and i dont have any close to any foreigners. especially nigerians dnt even c em coz.thier arears are filthy drug polluted so y wud i be threatened by economic refugees who eat ghoat meat
Then tell your Zulu nationalists to stop disturbing them instead of coming on here.
sostoz:
we have labour laws coz we value our selves u cant work like a slave lol only in ur countries of education and skills u are not valued by ur government. u clever to get visas and overload other ppls counttry.
STATS:
40 million black South Africans
6 million Foreigners
Extrapolate Male population from both groups
20 million Black South African males
1.5 million Black foreigners males_ extrapolate Nigerians, Ghanaians, Ethiopian, Somali who are self made entrpreneurs you get about 1 million foreign male population available to compete for jobs
How do 1 million people take jobs away from 20 million able bodied Black South African males.
apparently you are jumping from a tree to a moving tree without knowing where it is from and is heading to....understandable so I might have said something that your eyes dont want to read ,I advice you to read my post 4 more times ...am not justifying lootings and killings,but am telling you people the actual cause of xenophobia in SA...am not here to impress anyone,the insults on this forum stole my sympathy therefore lets call spade a spade,those who want sympathy should conduct themselves in a dignified manner..i regret to inform you that if all causes of xenophobia in SA are not addressed ,history will always repeat itself..it is no secret that south Africans use violence to show their anger....from service delivery protests to labour protests...violence are there..unfortunately all foreigners living here have no choice but to be part of this south African culture...or else they should leave!
We do not want your sympathy, We want you to acknowledge that you have serious internal, mental and psychological issues as well as socio economic issues that are the real culprits of Xenophobia and need you to stop looking for scape goats for your short comings.
How does a Nigerian who "shows off" his wears and is chasing your women stop you from improving your social standings in your own country?
How does an Ethiopian or Somali spaza shop owner stop you from going to school, educating yourselves, improving your skill levels?
If Nigerians are committing crimes in your country, Please march to your parliament and demand that the government go to these areas, flush these evil doers out and send them back home.
good posting.. I really don't understand that guys posts.. But really I see what the problem is..He has not travelled and experienced other cultures.. The long years of isolation from the world has dealt a big blow.. living quite shallow human beings... with very narrow nationalistic leanings and ideologies..
Anyone that thinks that he is doing another African National a favour because they are in your country and other your mercy..Ha snever grasped the full meaning of the word "UBUNTU" that you guys throw around easily... Again... Foreigners national should not treat you like a GODDESS because you allowed them stay in your country....Infact ..It is your responsibility to treat foreigners the way you treat your own nationals...No difference.. Know one would give you extra dolls or candy for that...The constant yearning fro respect from foreigners from you...shows a deep rooted sense of insecurity and inferiority ..The fact that you cry so hard about this ..all over this forum....would not change it..They owe you nothing
sostoz:
sa men dont even look at ur ugly forein gals. lol nigerians are dirty loud mouth they date gold diggaz and sexually deprived gals. lol at least no south african goes and spend money on foreign gals for citizenship. ul die to date our beautifull gals. lol im laughin at u. there only thing u brag about is our sisters. we dont.like u coz u are scumz. one of a gal i know who dated nigerian was used as a drug mule in brazil and left 2 children on streets of brazil. c only stupid sa gals would date overly ego nigerian.
What has this got to do with
Killing and lynching Ethiopians
Killing MR. SITHOLE
Looting peoples spaza shops
Demanding respect from people who are minding their own business and making a living.
Excuses to mask your short comings.
Look yourselfs very well in the mirror and stop deflecting. This is not about Nigeria. This is about your hungry, helpless location dwelling Zulu nationalists who have pent up rage and violence running through their veins,
what is it that Nigeria is doing ?even if all these foreigners can exit south Africa today...we are going to lose nothing because they are bringing nothing to SA....the fact that your people are also affected by those attacks,clearly your people are not feared but are disrespected..the question that you and your fellow poor Nigerians should ask yourselves is...there are many Senegalese and Ghanaians living in SA,why are they not affected?
before your gods gave an answer,let me break it down for you..
they conduct themselves in a dignified manner
they are not criminals
they respect the locals that's why the locals respect the back
...............the attacks are over,dont be surprised if they resurface,your country men are a major factor
What is this nonsense about respect. You want the foreigners to bow down and greet you every morning they wake up.
You want them to thank you everyday for your hospitality. How childish.
The only reason you are saying this is because when these particular "foreigners" do well , they show off stuff that your people cannot get and thus they become envious, so in other words your demand for respect really translates to "Do not disrespect us by flashing your wears in front of us when you know many of our people are hungry"
PS, Can your Zulu mobs tell the difference btw a French speaking Senegalese and Congo man or a Ghanaian, Liberian or Nigerian. They are all the same to you so stop deflecting by trying to divide the foreigners into segments. An obvious tactic you learnt from your Apatheid masters.
Africans including Nigerians are united behind these despicable acts perpertrated by your country men.
Take responsibility for your actions and stop deflecting.
nice one...Nigerians should be singled out so that we can see their fake muscles
You people should stop calling Nigerians name because you are afraid of them.
Why are you killing Zimbabweans?
Why are looting and stealing peoples property?
Why are you terrorizing women and children?
Why did you Kill MR SITHOLE after stealing cigarretes from him?
Why do you not attack the White foreign owned stores, Are you scared of them?
Why are your Zulu's such primitive barbarians?
How is opening a Spaza shop, stopping you from getting jobs. Why can't you practice group economics and stop buying from these spaza shops
Instead of you to it you do not know how the world operates and have been isolated in your townships for decades hence the resentment you are here calling Nigerians.
Are we the ones that Killed foreign nationals in your country?
Stop deflecting and look yourselfs well in the Mirror. Africa is behind Nigeria on this one no matter how many of you come here to run your mouths
RANDYMUDA:
They have similarities but the issue here is in xenophobia.. South Africa effectively are attacking people they have no jurisdiction over..Ithas a multiplier effect.. International relations....COUNTRY ANIMOSITY....and so on and so forth... In tribalism...for the most part...It is within country men and as much as YORUBAS and IGBOS go at each other..you can not document a direct fight or killings by the two groups.. In the last 47 years In xenophobia.....it is hate accompanied by actual killing and death...of a vulnerable person...similar but very different
Bros I hail you for this comment. Spot on.
I would say the same goes for the relationship btw Ghana and Nigeria. No record of any Physical confrontations. The Saffer's however carry a lot of this confrontationism from the Apatheid era of toi toing
Good for HIM. Any yet Zimbabwean children as young as 10 are crossing our borders, entering South Africa to become "street kids". There are many of their kids being waifs, living under bridges here etc. He gave whites packing orders & made many parents lose their jobs & now the children are fending for themselves. It's a damn shame.
In the long run his country will be the better for it
The truth being spoken, its a problem, logical step we deal with it, with wisdom as adults, not insults, banter and bickering. Governments have to act. If the situation cant be settled amicably, evict by force, there'd be less bad blood. Talk of people leaving of their own volition is wishful thinking.
P.S: I guarantee if BluIvy, Morpheus24, PunkyOh & all4naija met to finally settle this beef, it'll quickly go from; "Bring it ON!!", "Id**t" & "Voetsek" to "Baby girl" & "Bokkie" real quick.
This is my man right here who understood what it is to be African. Your Zuma is an embarrassment and is the face of you to the world
Mugabe must be suffering from old age dementia. Didn't he kill the Ndebele people of Zimbabwe for being "foreigners" originally from South Africa? He has absolutely no right to open his gutter mouth on issues like this when the Ndebele people are still being treated like 2nd class citizens in their own country. It's the case of the pot calling the kettle black. Shame on this old hypocrite.
South Africans are not afraid of their white community 1st of all, we deal with them too when they get out of line, mistreating & underpaying their farm hands. When we do it they call it white genocide. No white person in South Africa can walk up to a black person, talk shìt & not get a warm klap right between the eyes in return. This fool Mugabe must really be suffering from old folks'disease. Nonsense!
I luv Mugabe, That dude is gonna die with a big smile on his face and the middle finger "FU*&k" White people.
RudzSA:
This is interesting ,u ppl are busy calling us names nd hatin on us for wat a few of our idiots are doing .thats also not ryt .wat u nid to understand is that South Africans in general don't like to associate themselves wit Africa (sad fact).to us Africa is a different place to RSA .ask any Southey u no they'll tell u they South African not so much African .wat m sayin is that this things wil take time but we r heading towards the "I'm an African declaration" ,our past which mind u is only 21yrs old still defines us .nd don't let anyone fool u al South Africans r lyk that ,black nd white
I really hate ignorant comments. So the isolation was so bad that you forgot what continent you are on.
PS , You call yourself South "Africans" yet you don't want to identify with Africans
whatever you wanna believe.
i said it, unless foreigners start respecting south africans in their own country, xenophobia will always come and go. underline that statement, this one will subside very soon. the government has learned from 2008 where more than 60 people were killed.
But if the relationship between foreigners and south africans does not get better, we are bound to experience more of this.
I never said nigerians must miggle with somalians, respect your host. if i go to nigeria and start instulting nigerian, telling them they are lazy and they breed to much, do you think i would be loved in nigeria or i would be creating more enemies.
If SOUTH AFRICANS were lazy, do you think they would have built a country what south africa is today, where the very same foreigners enjoy the infrustructured built by lazy south africans. if my mind serves me well, , foreigners were never involved.
so lets stop this xenophobia and start respecting each other and learn from each other
What is this st.u.pid respect you are asking for. You want us to bow down to you and lick your boots. Nonsense.
If someone says you are lazy and you are not, why does that justify you coming and looting his goods.
Your problem is your government, go and face them in parliament instead of embarrassing yourselves in front of the entire world.
You are dumbb¡ Our country is made up of different races and we have no separate blacks/African forums. If you to talk politics there are political party forums.
Moffie, you seem to be completely loosing it. One moment you accuse of not wanting white people the next you call us cowards for not kicking out white people. Make up you mind, Joe! Besides this is our country its not by force that we do things the same way you follow. Different strokes for different folks.
Now that you have used this forum as such a bigger and derailed the whole thread. How many South Africans even Ghanians who are much closer to you are on this forum of +-2million? What is the % of Sans on nl?
10/+2mill? Please don't embarrass yourself unless you are also 17 years like the bambinos who usually talk like this on nl.
What are you jabbering on about in the above post you this Motswana from Botswana girl.
BluIvy:
Zuma curbs foreign land rights
Published on 15 February 2015
Foreigners will be barred from owning land in South Africa and no individual will be able to own more than 12,000 hectares, the equivalent of two farms, under legislation currently in the works, President Jacob Zuma said yesterday.
Giving more details of a Land Holdings Bill announced last week in a State of the Nation address, Zuma said foreign individuals and companies would be restricted to long-term leases of between 30 and 50 years.
If any South Africans owned more than 12,000 hectares, the excess would be liable for seizure by the state, Zuma said, in comments that are likely to upset the large -and still predominantly white-owned -commercial farming sector. http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobile/news/world-news/zuma-curbs-foreign-land-rights.118498948
You seriously haven't seen a pissed off group of South Africans, believe me no group of IGBOs can stop South Africans in South Africa, all of South Africas Xenophobic Bast*rds would rain down on them.
On the contrary in 2008, we saw how pissed off SAffers can get and the mayhem they can cause and historically speaking when them Igbo boys decide to fight, they will fight. They did it for 3 years in Nigeria at the worst odds.
ApolloFist:
Nigerians aren't diseased and stoopid. They hustle hard and NL is a cool forum. Lets not let their monumental panchent simple minded thinking steer us from giving them their due. We have forums in SA but you don't know about them because Nigerians aren't really interested in anyone but themselves. And being that we don't really talk about you on those forums, I'm not surprised you ignore them. Now that I'm done probing and I've made up my mind. Let me conclude by saying to my SA brothers. Don't bother arguing with Nigerians. They're more concerned with being right or winning than gaining actual perspective. They have a hard on for South Africans. Thats why they pay so much money just to screw our b-tches and talk so much sh-t . And even if you were to engage in a open and healthy debate with them, it would be rendered pointless because they are incapable of being objective and believe in the magnificence of their mediocrity. And to continue feeding into their tribalist crap will only frustrate you. Like one usually does get arguing with a fool. They have their strengths. Learn those and dismiss their simple minds. They can't help it. They'll judge you for xenophobic attacks while they have a history of inflicting attacks on each other. Way before some of their own sent a 10 year old to bomb an entire settlement. Their soldiers would go into villages and massacre the fathers, rape the daughters & mothers while the sons watched. Cut off the mother's breasts so that they couldn't breastfeed. This was happening before Boko Haram. As recent as 15 years even. On their own people. Look how dirty they make parts of our country that they live in. The concept of looking after their environment is lost on them. Just go to the Delta regions and you'll see. So superior are they, just look how far they've come since independence. 60 years down. South Africa saved Africa from plunging into a black hole by showing them the importance of foreign investment and keeping your infrastructure up and running. Investing back into your country. They never knew that stuff before us. Superior my a$$. Lagos beaches were lined with shacks up until 2005 even. Who do you think showed them the value of tourism? Farming? They are only waking up to their agricultural prospects now. And I mean now as in 2010. Before, they thought focusing almost entirely on oil was the smart choice. These superior Nigerians who say SA depends on whites would rather go to war with themselves while Royal Dutch Shell f--ks them out of their birth right. Whites are their masters via remote control. This is who you are arguing with. They have had exposure to the west for way longer than us and look at the bang up job they've done. Oh wait that is China's doing and SA. Nigeria was a organised mess well into the early 2000's and still is. F--k arguing with these simpletons. what the f--k do they know anyway. You get a leg up from China, now you think you're hot sh-t? F--k off with that dumb sh-t. Check yourself before you talk sh-t . Wanksters.
***YAWN***
Look at the audacity of this uppity SA negro who is getting over-paid in Nigeria. Why don't you use some of that overpaid money you are getting, go back to your country and lobby your government to chase them Nigerians away from Hilbrow and Sunnyside.
Every other African country "knows" and acknowledges who built your SOUTH AFRICA, stop fooling us with we blacks are maintaining i and showing you guys the way. Get rid of your White population and we can start talking, otherwise you are just wasting your breath here on Nairaland and the rest of Africa knows you are just a Proxy-European State.
You cannot co-exist with a class of people whose nature is to oppress you and feel that they are superior to you and you will continue to see the below headlines for a very long time.
Kwame Nkrumah "It is far better to be free to govern or misgovern yourself than to be governed by anybody else"
ApolloFist:
This tribalism nonsense is what keeps Africans from getting it together. Its good to discuss these things and exchange knowledge by engaging in debate. But when people start calling each other names and saying they are diseased or smell or are sub human. Its wrong and gets us no where. The Chinese & Europeans see us as Africans
Not Zulu or Yoruba or Sotho or Ha *spell check or Xhosa or Igbo. They see negroes.
Africans are already divided & if we could use forums like these for positive exchanges & healthy debate, instead of hurling obsene jabs at each other, where nothing comes of it. We can biild Africa as its meant to be.
We should profit from such platforms, not finger pointing each other.
zzzzzzzzzzzz. Somebody Wake me up when this fake azz upitty negro finishes his dribble.