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haekymbahd:
Now you said God won't punish Jews if they follow all commandments of Torah...

What will happen to them since they didn't accept Jesus as lord and Savior same as Muslims...

I can understand our level of understanding is far apart, but try to comprehend.

Torah was given to the Jews alone as a covenant with Abraham seed through Isaac.

Ishmael and Esau didn't inherit covenant with God.

Torah was given to Israel as a people (Torah is basically the commandments at sanai which the children of Israel took oat with God to keep)

So you Abdul including your Quran are jesters when you claim to follow moses laws, Torah simply because you aren't Jews who it was meant for.

Secondly the Jews who it was meant for failed to keep it to standard (Upon which God punished them, i don't know where you saw the opposite)

The New Testament/Good News came as a solution to the Jews inability to keep to the Laws.

So today The jews/Christian's can practice the Torah/Law but it won't take them to heaven because no man can be perfect with it.

Only Jesus/Good News can take you to heaven (There are Messianic Jews who keep the Jews law of Torah and still believe in the saviour).

However everyone including Muslims who practice the laws of Moses alone are going to hell

haekymbahd:
The Jews or christistian or Muslim can all make heaven if the follow the true teaching of Torah, Gospel and Quran respectively because they were all revealed by the same God (Allah)

No Abdul, God has standard.

Heaven isn't a cheap strip club with multiple entrance.


Torah, Gospel, Quran are three separate books

Torah was a covenant with Jews (God wouldn't have been punishing them if they could obey all of it commandments)

Gospel is good news but Muslims adopt the meaning good news without knowing what the news is about (Goodnews was God solution to the shortfall of Jews in the Torah with extension to all men)

Quran is just a satanic diversion that came centuries laters neither here nor there

Quran obsession with Torah is lame because Torah was a covenant with the Jews not with Arabs let alone Muslims.

Muslims didn't make covenant with Yaweh and as such can't be using Torah, (even if it struggle to keep it's practice which the owners couldn't even implement, Yaweh would still not reward Muslims for it because he never made the covenant with them)

haekymbahd:
Allah SWT said:

"Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto. So do not fear the people but fear Me, and do not exchange My verses for a small price. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the disbelievers."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 44)

"Say, O People of the Scripture, you are [standing] on nothing until you uphold [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord. And that which has been revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in transgression and disbelief. So do not grieve over the disbelieving people."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 68)

"Indeed, those who have believed [in Prophet Muhammad] and those [before Him] who were Jews or Sabeans or Christians - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 69)


* Via Qur'an English http://qur
Only the disobedient ones among the Jews will get punished...

lol, you have started this numb way of debating.

Yaweh sent the Torah originally to Moses, anybody can come thereafter to plagiarize, we know who sent Torah


You didn't answer my questions on why Mohammed and his god are calling for the death of all Jews in that age?

You didn't answer how Islam monotheism suddenly became serve any god of your choice so long it's not more than one?

Since you want to jump ahead of yourself and run to "practicing Torah"

Can you explain to me why Mohammed broke Moses law by conveting his son's wife said without repercussions from god

haekymbahd:
Allah does not hate Jews or Christians as they claim but only the disobedient ones among them who worships others beside him and didn't keep to the commandments

Allah SWT said:

"Indeed, those who have believed [in Prophet Muhammad] and those [before Him] who were Jews or Sabeans or Christians - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve."
(QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 69)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

Some Christians claim they worship the same God with Jews but if you ask them "will jews make heaven" they will say no that they didn't accept Jesus as lord and Savior... Which means the God of the Jews is different from the Christians...

But Allah says if anyone worship God alone and not associate anyone with him be you Muslim, Jew or Christians or sabeans you will definitely make heaven...

Now judge who hates the Jew is it "Allah" or "Jesus" the trinitarian God....

This is MikeCold, i had an issue with nairaland bot trying to replying your last mention


Anyway if Islam claims to love the Jews can it explain this


The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (the Boxthorn tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews. (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim). Sahih Muslim ,
41:6985

From Islam perspective anyone that worships God and do not associate anyone with him would go to heaven wether Islam or Jew?

Is this the messed up concept of "monotheism", we can effectively say that guru maraji followers would go to heaven because they only worship one god right

In essence Islam is not about worshipping the true God, so long as you don't worship more than one.

All ogun worshippers worship only iron so they can go to heaven.

Btw Christian's and Jews worship the same God, but in of making heaven that God said there is one way through Jesus

It's like the landlord of a house telling you there is only one gate to his house.

It doesn't stop him from been the landlord from whatever perspective and it doesn't stop the gate from been the entrance to his compound

Firstly you must be a confused Muslim because Christianity has no issue with accepting any age of God where he refers to himself as "WE or "US"

It is rather an affirmation of the trinity when God says "Us" or "We".


Your majestic misconception is coming from a Islamic perspective because only Islam finds it difficult to explain why Allah uses "we" or "us" in quran e.g in creation of Man (I don't believe God can be referring to him and his angels here since he can't equate angels to himself to create man, so who then is this we).


By the way majestic and character are two different things

When this term of "we" or "us" are used in the scriptures (Bible or Quran) it is used by the God of these books himself to qualify his personality so it's not up to a human to interpret it because it's what the God said about himself.

Question now is whether this is a Majestic or Characteristic statement from God about himself?

Answer is it is a characteristic statement of God referring to who he is

If God wanted to just show his majesty as you put it he can use I AM, The Greatest etc

But referring himself as "US" or "WE" it's a simple deliberate revelation into his character and personality.

To finally decimate your theology that this is a character not majestic statement

Quran 21:17
Mohsin Khan: Had We intended to take a pastime (i.e. a wife or a son, etc.), We could surely have taken it from Us, if We were going to do (that).

(Interpretation: This "We" is boasting that if he intended to take a "wife" he would take it from "Us". This is not a figurative or Majestic statement but a reality, taking a wife is a reality not majestic and he is taking it from himself, which means you can only be more than one to take a wife from yourself).

This last illustration of Allah confirmation that he is more than one in reality not just a majestic statement by Muslims when they see "we or "us"

Janosky:

Fraud na Fraud.
No Hebrew or Jew accepts the jargon the Original Poster typed there.

Na wash !

I expected you to engage the topic with a brain not this.

You quoted a whole write up just to express your insecurity about what Jews accept.

Is your faith dependent on what Jews believe?

Op this is refreshing

Christianity is so serene.

You would always find another level of civilisation between northern Christian and his jihadi abdul

Alexreport Na life you think say you dey live so

x123xlolls:


You have never been at any of the cities you mentioned..... how do you actually wanna is to agree eee wit ya?

Don Allah ku rika fadan gaskia a koina Mana, gaba.

shut your taqiya mouth

Arrewa cum and see what a brave educated beautiful igbo woman is doing when fulani terrorists wives are hiding under their dirty hijabs.

OfficialAPCNig:

My problem with Islam is that it can't do without their us vs Christian comparison.

I was once in a mosque in Lagos and the Sheik (pronounced Shehu) was preaching. Instead of teaching his people why Islam is the best religion he was busy castigating the christian Jesus with a lot of stupid lies.

Moslems believe that they can validate their religion by undermining Christianity instead of preaching the excellence of their religion.

No Christian pastor will spend almost all his time on the pulpit every Sunday talking about Mohammed instead of Jesus.

Quote a violent text from Quran and ask a moslb em to explain what it means, instead of doing that, he/she will quote a portion of the OT.

In their stupidity, they failed to always understand that Christianity (era of Grace) started and ends in the NT.

The death of Christ put an end to those things and ushered us into an era of Grace - which is the foundation of Christianity.

Even the quran told Muslims they were ignorant and should ask the people of the book.

If the same book Quran revered was approved by Allah, isn't allah the beginning and end to understand that the Bible would be "corrupted" and can't be a reference by Muslims.

If the Bible was the book of allah wouldn't he have protected it from "corruption" itself.

Muslims and it's scholars are fixated on the the Christ and the Bible because it is a religion of plagiarism.

These so called hadits that make up cooked stories about Muhammad performing miracles where Quran said no sign was given to him.

You mean this parasitic north are getting paid for a resource that belongs to one Nigeria with Niger Delta wealth.

Gold we don't see

Does it also mean the fulani government are at the beck and call of these audio jihadists explorers as a ready market just because it doesn't want them to sell and finance terrorists.

Won't the fg be taken advantage of in these sales since it is basically the one begging to buy anything they have to sell at whatever price.

What business does fg have with becoming a buyer of "zamfara gold" since same fg didn't classify it as a resource for one Nigeria.

If Fg is so concerned about the gold not falling into the wrong hands why not sanitize the sector to license and track who explores,sells it.

Oh i forgot if Fg does this it would simply become a private sector which the quota system parasites can't do without.

They need Niger Delta money to keep buying their non existent gold.


The north is the problem of this country but some politically correct fo0ls would tell you otherwise.

The kind of laws, loopsided wastes, quota system, and ideas they keep churning just to appease the north is why we are where we are.

This pathetic undefendable acts are so pathetic at times you can't even defend any rationality in it than just to accept the 4th century north has to be carried along in quota system at every one detriment.

Please they should remind us how far they have discovered the oil in the northern desert after invoking billions of naira worth some capital projects.

They should remind us how far they have gone with those refinery they shipped to kaduna desert which billions was used to to rehabilitate under buhari.

They should remind us how far the railway they linked to Desert Niger has benefitted this country.

They should remind us how far the electricity they are shipping to desert Chad helps this country.

They should remind us how far the quota system Sharia cjn has helped this country after turning the law against the law to suit a Sharia northern terrorist.

They should remind us how far the war against Boko Haram which has gulped half the wealth of Niger Delta resources in a phony northern Islamic jihad.

It cost billions to re erect the "fence of University of maiduguiri"

The north has taken all the security bases to it's desert yet it is still negotiating with mere bandits with Niger Delta money.

The north has taken all the offices of the federal government yet it can't battle its own security.


The northern jihadists don't pay VAT for cattle rearing which is the biggest occupation in the north, but they get VAT from even a kiosk that gets tasked down south.

The fulani government had the effontry to seek the building of ruga settlement with federal funds for free to them.

Gej built almajiris special school's for north with federal money because of its own stupidity to control it's outbreed

I can go on but i think these parasites are cursed beyond curse to exist in same country with

misano:
Lol.... This one is playing kujukuju politics in Nairaland. PDP is zoning to the South.

you wish, atiku has begun his Twitter recycled stunt again after his sabbatical in Dubai.

He is very predictable you know, and no one can stop him in pdp

Classic Taqiya from an islamist crack head

PhiliptheArab:
The funny thing about this thread are the people calling the Northerners hypocrites

For destroying alcohol, a drink that has wrecked many poeples lives.

Yes, the North hasa drug problem and a tobacco problem.( especially underaged s) .But at least they are doing something about the alcohol problem

Many of these guys chanting hypocrites should spend some time in a hospital. Meet the liver and kidney disease patients. Some of them are there because alcohol.

I once knew an alcoholic. Drank and drank.And was in and out of hospital for all kinds of health issues.( it was his brother paying the bills , hr had no job!)

shut up your taqiya mouth.

Cigarette/hemp that even kids take in the north is more harmful to the kidney/liver than alcohol.

Tramadol which is water in the north gives a persistent intoxicated and energetic state than alcohol.

If people have rights to choose cigarettes despite the makers warning then they should have rights to choose alcohol or not.

It is not your health, the north that has less alcohol intake has more intoxicated bandits,terrorist,peadophiles,almajiris

FactBoyz:
There is an amount of money and fame you'll make and depression sets in.. You begin to notice at that instance that money cant buy peace of mind, joy and true love. Hence, Jesus Christ is the solace we have., even if you you dont believe in God or anything, believing in him makes things a lot better within.

There is the money you would even make and you start making mistakes.

You want to go the extreme because nothing moves you anymore, in bid to do that extra extra you go just off.

That's why you need God cos he alone is infinity that has no boundaries

thebosstrevor1:
The government can saction CNN through the advice of NBC.

They can block CNN off the air.

Simple as abc

That is more like an affront on america.

Especially the democrat taking charge cum the way Biden/Harris reacted

GraduateStudyAb:
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So how much as jack paid from this sueing?

I know it's the joy of "sueing" jack who doesn't know of your existence that is tantalizing your Islamic cracked skull

YouAreFinished:

They failed the requirements which Dangote ed and you're saying the government is favouring only Dangote

Taqiya won't help you forever

Islam North Destruction

olisaEze:
So Europe is now a country to you ba? Bloody insecure black man, go and read history and learn why Nigeria is the way it is today. It’s people like dis that don’t know d history of their country that voted the problem we have today into aso rock.

he ed his point, stop beating round the bush.

Average Nigerian would theorize and claim to know everything, finding faults, insulting messenger but would never seat to think

emeviks:
Don't come to Canada with super high expectations or you will be disappointed quickly. If you have a great job with good benefits where you are, pls. stay there. A lot of high skilled immigrants I've met as an employment counsellor who helps to find jobs in Canada are demoralized as they can not find equal level jobs they left back home. Know this, your skills are not considered comparable. Period. You will start from the BOTTOM! Discrimination exist covertly. Your accent, communication skills,your ability to convey knowledge/ experience in the Canadian context might differ from what You are accustomed to. You will have to be on top of your game. It might be about who you Know. Networking is sometimes key. Know your job description well. Interviews are not about knowing your skills. It's also about that and more. Chance are you don't don't have appropriate answers. What they need, want to hear. Chances are you did not know what they want because you did not read, research and learn about the company and industry and job duties, you did not research the Canadian context of the job. It's cumbersome if not prepared. Another idea per my experience, remove countries you've gained experience or worked in from resume to gain attention clear and void of what's deemed foreign experience, not canadian experience. I came here in 2007. I speak well. Even with a good amount of good American accent in Canada, unless nervous then it shows. I know my shit! In fact my name could never tell that I am black, African. I get the interviews but once they are my black face, all else changed. So beware folks! Unless your life is threatened in your country. If you have respect in your profession and a good job where you are, stay put. North America, Canada is no joke for those educated people, secure in your knowledge, you will have to start from the begining even with Phds. Medical doctors. Master's from abroad… think carefully before you come! Consult an employment counsellor and even they can not predict your future. I have been there. Just saying!

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Sent you a dm, wish you reply

techmo:




Lol



Davido be beating their asses together on streams and record sales...



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davido sef called wiz the greatest of all time

At another time he called him his senior bro.

I don't have anything against davido, he has probably the best heart in the industry but wiz am for raw talent.

Talent is the music anyday bro before the paparazzi brought showbiz to it

David is bigger than burna anyway

This uzor kalu is just busy wasting money.

You constantly want to be in the news online does not mean you are in the forefront of politics

mightyhazel:
poor lizards..



those kids dont look all that hungry.. I think dey just doing some wild kid stuff

some wild stuff yet they have another batch to roast on the ground.

Those are hungry Islamic almajiris

ceemac:


I'm happy you are coming to UWO, I presently school there but unfortunately I am a guy and don't meet your description but I won't mind helping anyway that I can..

Please bring foodstuffs oo.. I will collect some Naija packaged ones off you.. Did I to mention that I have missed gala and meaty, abeg bring come ooo.. lol

Wish you safe flight, I will be happy to see you around!

bro I need to speak privately with you

adewumz:
I will keep that in mind. Thank you.

Hello bro, can you send me a dm, trying to send you not working