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meccuno: 11:03am On Jun 05, 2019 |
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Yyeske:[/s] just keep quiet...you are not making sense. 1 Like |
Yyeske(m): 11:04am On Jun 05, 2019 |
meccuno:Just do the assignment I gave you for a better understanding of your Igboness and that is if you are even Igbo to start with. No insult next time |
Yyeske(m): 11:05am On Jun 05, 2019 |
meccuno:Counter one sentence there and you can't, only making online noise, empty barrel making loud noise |
Yyeske(m): 11:08am On Jun 05, 2019 |
NonsoWow:You are very correct, I ed just before the 2015 and 2019 elections, call for Biafra goes down and immediately PDP loses, they their Biafra again. Hateful beings full of bile 1 Like 1 Share |
Obi1kenobi(m): 12:37pm On Jun 05, 2019 |
Curlieweed: So, can you demonstrate what we have in these "strategic reserves"? If the reserves were that evident, why even need to wait for the government to prospect for the oil. Why won't corporations simply obtain OPL licenses to explore if confident they can profit from it? I haven't said there is no oil in the SE, but there are many in the habit of exaggerating what is known: and all that is known is that the geological composition of certain areas in the basin makes it a "probability" that there are commercially significant deposits of oil. Which needs to be investigated much further, but a paucity of investors makes exploration a government job and NNPC's current aboki boss seems only interested in the Northern basins. The biggest known oil fields in the SE are in Imo and Abia which together produce like 30,000 barrels per day or so. I've even frequently heard many of our people the fake news that Anambra has Nigeria's largest gas reserves but have never seen a credible source for the claim. People just buy into some elaborate conspiracy theory of the Nigeria government deliberately looking to stall our crude production. Again, I perfectly agree countries can navigate disadvantages in natural resources. My intention in bringing it up is to present the problems we will have to navigate. But when you obtain far, far, far more from the Federation than you contribute as the SE does, perhaps some reality needs to be applied in the secession bravado. Ordinary IGR which is totally in our control, we can't generate (comfortably the worst performing region after the Boko-ravaged NE), yet we make comparisons with sophisticated economies like Japan, South Korea and Western Europe and Israel etc? The summary of every argument I have about the dewy-eyed Biafra dream is why the agitators fail to first look inward at all the ways our society has failed before looking at external problems. Pazienza here for example has tried to blame the failure of SE leadership as some insidious influence of Nigerian unity, which does not make any sense at all to me. Why would an Abia person that has seen one of the worst-governed states in Nigeria since 1999 leave all his failed leaders (they even managed to vote O.U.K and T. A. Orji as their Senators ![]() 2 Likes |
horsepower101: 12:55pm On Jun 05, 2019 |
Omnibus: Obi1kenobi is a Yoruba man. The early days of his , he was engaging in tribal fights against igbos and laughing with yorubas. The problem is that a lot of igbos mistake him as Igbo because of his Igbo sounding name which is actually from a character in starwars movie. I have just been watching him over the years as he slowly transitioned himself from a hardcore Yoruba tribalist to a fake neutral sounding guy. It’s all a facade. If he is even igbo by any chance, it’s probably those ones with Yoruba fathers and igbo mother. I have come across those types before. 5 Likes |
Obi1kenobi(m): 12:55pm On Jun 05, 2019 |
meccuno: Omnibus: What does "contributing positively" mean? Cos it's a meaningless framing. My philosophy is simple. I believe it serves the best interests of Ndigbo to remain part of Nigeria, but also believe Nigeria must evolve its politics to a system that devolves power from the centre and recognizes the autonomy of its constituent nations. Not only do I believe this to be in our best interest, but I believe it to be a far more workable, actionable plan that shouting "Biafra" everywhere: hypocritical tantrum-throwing that only escalated when GEJ lost the election and we decided useless emotional blackmail of the country with IPOB agitation was a viable political strategy. I'm also very proud to be a "politically correct" person rather than engaging in corrosive, toxic discourse that has made Ndigbo Nigeria's number 1 hate group on the internet that are at peace with absolutely no one. It would have even made more sense if their hate was carried out in real life violence that would actually make the Nigerian government sit up and take notice (like the way they always coddle Miyetti Allah and co), but its mostly empty noise-making on the internet that accomplishes nothing, but succeeds in alienating every group from us. Then we wonder why we're in the political wilderness. I've said it a number of times, but the way you people radicalize yourselves with bitterness and hate, there really will be a lot of tears (and empty Biafra agitations) when after Buhari's remaining 4-year tenure, you'll have to endure Tinubu's political machine taking the reins of Federal power. 1 Like |
Obi1kenobi(m): 1:13pm On Jun 05, 2019 |
BeautifulMind2: eeyahh.....sorry nwanne. See the one above threatening to "kill" his ancestor. As if he would stand anywhere near me if he saw my 6ft 4' frame. ![]() Xander85: A guy that on this thread was laughing with someone that denigrated Enugu Muslims is calling others "self-hating Igbos": https://nairaland.macsoftware.info/5225497/igbos-attack-bbc-igbo-wishing/6#79024285 Well, I'm glad you're not the arbiter of what makes an Igbo man a "self-loving Igbo". There is a difference between patriotism and nationalism. What many Igbo nationalists here are, are Igbo fascists and Igbo supremacists. That has nothing to do with "self-love". On the contrary, being intolerant of internal criticism within your tribe shows insecurities with one's image and the need to overcompensate. 2 Likes |
meccuno: 1:20pm On Jun 05, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi:please stop this nonsense talk of hate abeg it's begging to get irritating. Is there any tribe who loves each other in Nigeria I want to know . It's in the best interest of Igbos to be in Nigeria,how do you run a country where every appointment is based on where you are from? Nigeria has shown it's hand as a country retrogressive. Must we fight at the assembly before develop ment is Brought to our region? There are benefits being in Nigeria yes but it is better we get our own country were our destination is controlled by us. 3 Likes |
Curlieweed: 4:52pm On Jun 05, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi: You should stop getting stuck in the weeds pursuing a point that is at the moment only academic. The OPL that covers that area was held by the Shell JV which is 60% controlled by NNPC (JV). I don’t understand how some “investors” are going to go and start developing some property that doesn’t belong to them. I don’t understand why you keep harping on issues we discussed before. I have told you that your IGR in the current Nigerian system is largely irrelevant. Ironically, some of those areas that boast of high IGR also have very high debt, while their actual impact on HDI is just as uninspiring as the SE governors we like to deride. Why should someone boast about paying more for the same crappy product. I find that piece of propaganda hard to understand. All successful countries are built by “dewy eyed” patriots who believe that they are simply the greatest and are willing to put in great sacrifices to prove that. Americans talk about “American Exceptionalism”. The rational mind knows this is a myth but the motivating power of such thinking exceeds any thing you can drill, dig or quarry from the soil. You don’t become great by thinking you’re mediocre. I agree that we should be looking inwards because whether we like it or not Nigeria is in a terminal downward spiral and we are becoming like those who come praying for rain while forgetting to arm themselves with umbrellas. We need to prepare ourselves for a post-Nigeria Igboland. 6 Likes |
Ejanla07: 7:22pm On Jun 05, 2019 |
Ejanla07: 7:27pm On Jun 05, 2019 |
While we yoruba Muslims try and pray and slam our Coneheads hoping dis man will be brought down lo he keep innovating, stepping foot whr no one else dare. Such a brave investor.. Secretly we afonjas wish he is one of us... |
Obi1kenobi(m): 8:20pm On Jun 05, 2019 |
Curlieweed: Which "area" are you talking about?
How can IGR be irrelevant? ![]() I'm happy you agree we should look inwards. That is the crux of my critique of the pro-Biafra movement. People will abandon their communities, their wards, their local governments, their constituencies, their states etc and ignore the colossal failures at all levels of governance and representation amongst us that we have elected and be shouting "zoo" upandan. That does not make a shred of sense to me. To me, what they're looking for is scapegoats rather than real solutions. And scapegoating our "enemies" is more convenient than taking the blame for our own failures as a society. I'll keep on hammering my Abia point as an example: that in a state of very high potential with successive useless istrations since '99 (2 of whom they saw fit to reward their failures with Senatorial posts and a current useless, kerosene-sharing governor that they saw fit to re-elect for a 2nd term), somebody will wade through all the decay and filth on his roads in Aba to follow IPOB around chanting "zoo" upandan. Those are not people that are serious about enacting true political change. They are interested in the comfort of a nationalistic, jingoistic movement that creates false scapegoats for all their problems. 1 Like |
Enugupikin: 8:33pm On Jun 05, 2019 |
ndi Anambala,... erosion-ravaged dwellers
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Curlieweed: 8:55pm On Jun 05, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi: To your question; the freaking Anambra Basin of course. The Shell JV held the OPL before it was acquired by Orient who are currently developing the asset. IGR represents the price residents pay for a product called governance. The function of government is to maximize social welfare and HDI is a good indicator of that. If HDI outcomes are largely similar or even better in those areas with lower IGR then IGR is largely irrelevant. 5 Likes |
pazienza(m): 11:02am On Jun 06, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi
Nothing revisionist about it. Lagos colony (SW) was ed to Southern Nigeria in 1906. Lagos colony was not as productive as Southern protectorate. It had no much going for it, after the devastating prolonged Yoruba civil war. that Cocoa is not an indigenous African crop. It was introduced later into the region. It would appear you didn't go through the link I posted for your perusal. I attached below the map of Nigeria in 1896 with the Lagos colony and Southern Nigeria clearly shown.
We are going in circles because you have failed to understand that Lagos was a creation of Nigeria and would cease to exist after Nigeria collapse. There is nothing strategic about Lagos location. If Lagos colony was not attached to Southern Nigeria, if Lagos colony went on to become a country of its own. Southern Nigeria will not be making use of Lagos ports, no matter how strategic you think it is. She (southern Nigeria) would develop her own ports and use them even if Lagos ports are better. For example. Porto novo port is the best in West Africa, it's so good that Nigerian neighbors like Chad and Niger Republic, now prefers it to Lagos ports. The entire Nigeria cannot abandon Lagos port for Porto novo port, simply because we are nationally bound to patronize Lagos, even if she is inferior to Porto novo. What made Lagos the economic hub of Nigeria is immaterial. What matters is that without Nigeria, Lagos will shrink to Accra, Porto novo, Lome, Monrovia, etc size, as it comes to serve just the SW. There are Igbo communities everywhere, Mozambique, Angola, Kenya, UK, Canada, Sierra Leone,USA. I don't see the significance of telling me there are Igbos in Lagos. What's the point ? Igbos are everywhere, even in Somalia.
It's not just about depopulation. Disintegration of Nigeria will see Lagos lose its port monopoly to the largest West Africa market. Like I had noted, Benin Republic ports are better than those of Lagos, yet Benin Republic Porto novo is not as developed or economically important as Lagos. The difference is the market size of Lagos port, which it will lose post Nigeria. The North like Chad and Niger Republic might even prefer Cheaper and better ran Benin Republic ports, once they are no longer politically bound to Lagos. Niger delta nations will pursue and develop their own ports fully, they will also have standard international airports, likewise Biafra. We will have our own embassies and international consulates for visa processing. Industrial estates with gas line access for power generation. This will mean massive loss of market for those companies in Lagos and Ogun whose goods the new countries will have protectionist laws preventing them from dumping their goods on them. This would mean rapid downsizing and sack of workers by Lagos and Ogun based companies and industries. Crude oil companies operating in Niger delta would be forced to relocate to the region from Lagos.the service sector of the petrochemical industry currently enjoyed by Lagos would be lost as well. The MMIA will no longer be as busy as it is now, with countries down south having functional national airports. All these will mean massive loss of jobs in Lagos and massive creation of jobs in regions down south. So yes, people will migrate out of Lagos, Lagos population will shrink, likewise it's economy and the value of its real estate. Projects like eco Atlantic will be shelved. Lagos will look neater, but just no longer a powerful city state. It will be like Accra and co. Which isn't bad, but I doubt Yorubas want this. ![]() A lot of posters here are having problems with the concept of "relative" statements. The context of everything I've been saying is that the SE region is the least naturally endowed of Nigeria's 6 geopolitical zones - not that the SE is endowed with nothing. I haven't said Anambra or Imo or wherever have no oil reserves or that Ebonyi don't have limestone etc. I've simply said they are less endowed than other regions. I think many of you need to pick up a map and stare at the SE on it: looking at its size, or looking at its location relative to other zones etc. That is the most disadvantageously positioned zone in the country. Easily. I don't know why we're arguing something that self-evident. It should be the easiest thing to concede cos our disadvantageous geography is hardly our fault. Like I said earlier, there are states that I'd swap the whole SE land for: like Benue with its massive arable land. Or Kogi with its waters, and massive arable land, and massive mineral deposits, . Or Taraba and its massive arable land, and the lovely Mambilla plateau and its waters. Or Cross River with all its arable land, and landscape, and sea access and international borders. The greatest resources a nation can have is quality human resources. Ndiigbo have this in a quantity unsured by any African ethnicity. So I don't know what you mean by "less endowed". We have solid productive and arable agricultural belts in Anambra North, entire Ebonyi, Abia south and Imo south. Including parts of Enugu. With our quality human resources, there is no limit to what we can achieve. Somalia has the longest coastline in Africa, yet is a failed state, Congo DR has arable lands and the most mineral resources rich country in Africa, yet as poor as they come. In of resources, no resources can compete with human resources, patriotism and will to succeed. We have that in Biafra , we are by no means less endowed. Additionally, exploration of minerals in SE has been rather low , as with every other thing. In Biafra, we would dedicate more funds to intensive explorations and I'm sure we will have more than we currently do,which even without, we would still be well endowed. Look at a stat on agricultural productivity by Nigerian regions : https://nairaland.macsoftware.info/2522113/omitted-truth-debunking-lies...nigeria-states
I don't know the purpose of the above drivel anyone conversant with Nigerian history will know that it's the Yoruba who has been obsessed with the Igbo man. Awolowo, Akintola, they all have recorded Igbophobic speeches made to galvanize their people. I cannot find one Yoruba hate speech made by Zik or any Igbo political leader in the last. Ndiigbo are self absorbed people. We are too interested in ourselves and our visions that we often lose sight of other groups hate against us or their thoughts about our own visions, we often assume they should be invested in their own visions too. This was the crime of our forerunners which the current Igbo generation will not repeat. For example, it will be naive for us to just focus on achieving Biafra, without taking cognizance of the fact that Yorubas are not interested in achieving Oduduwa, but are more interested in thwarting our Biafran plans, keeping us in Nigeria, for their own group interests. Any Igbo who wants Biafra must be ready to realize and counter the Yoruba interest in keeping Nigeria one, which invariably translates to thwarting our Biafra aspirations. All over Nairaland, any Biafra or Igbo thread attracts Yoruba attention so much that it stretches to many pages, while most Yoruba threads die after two pages, as Igbos could often care less about Yorubas or their things. The hate you speak of is emanating from SW, we are simply refusing to play the ostrich like our forerunners, we had decided that every hate message must be replied with even more hateful one. Ndiigbo don't need Yorubas to accomplish anything in Nigeria. They are not a trustworthy people. Igbos naturally don't harbour any hate for Yorubas, it's rather the other way round. In history, Abiola won Anambra state in 1993 elections despite his anti Igbo rants, Igbos naturally identified with ideology and what one had to offer and voted for him, despite Tofa having an Igbo VP. Abiola also got 45% of the votes casted in Abia, Imo and Enugu in 1993. In 1999 and 2003, Igbos voted Yoruba OBJ twice who went on and removed Abia and Imo temporary from NDDC then. When was the the last time Yorubas voted for an Igbo man? Just an Igbo coloration of GEJ was enough for Yorubas to hate him. You simply don't know what you are talking about.
Nothing will happen. They can't do worst than Buhari had done, neither will a Yoruba 2023 presidency stop the poverty levels across Nigeria from rising continuously as predicted, with Yoruba commoners more affected than Igbo commoners who have stronger SMEs sector. Stop deluding yourself. Yoruba Presidency of a failed terrorist (Boko and herdsmen) infested country isn't going to take sleep away from Ndiigbo, all its going to do is alienate one Nigeria preaching Igbos and push them more towards acceptance of Biafra, which overall would be good for Igboland. Nothing unites a people more than shared sense of injustice. See this :https://nairaland.macsoftware.info/2529594/yoruba-citizens-sent-south-east
Thank you. That will be enough. 9 Likes 1 Share |
pazienza(m): 11:14am On Jun 06, 2019 |
Curlieweed: IGR is nonsense in Nigeria. It's simply a reflection of how hard a local government is taxing her populace. It doesn't mean they have more productivity going on. Taxes are low in Igboland. It doesn't mean we can't raise it if need be. It simply is what it is. We know the region deeply sunk in debt and who struggled badly when FG monthly allocations shrinked during the 2015-2017 recession period. They were sending their people here to learn how to survive :https://nairaland.macsoftware.info/2529594/yoruba-citizens-sent-south-east 8 Likes 1 Share |
investnow2013: 1:30pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
Check this INNOSON prices!
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theenchanter: 2:46pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
investnow2013:this guy should lower d price a lil bit, even if it means tweaking his production to cost less than d status quo. |
cjrane: 2:56pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
theenchanter: So INNOSON should lower the price because he picks up engines from the street or the are made of plastic? He does not need to pay the workers for their labor abi? Nigerians are very very insatiable. In US dollars, some of those vehicles are barely $22,000 dollars! The same Nigerians will buy used Korean vehicles for $20,000 dollars, yet they complain $22K is too much because it's made in Nigeria! 7 Likes |
hammerFC: 6:28pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
Let us face it, wat Yoruba and Hausa really want, is to use Igbo's as slaves and if possible use them to make up their numbers. How many times have we heard a minority tribe like Kalabari and especially Asari Dokubo state the above with regards to Ijaw? Ndiigbo are not only hated in Nigeria but also the middle-east. U only have to spend time with a Lebanese and listen to the way he talks to know that the world have nothing good in mind for Ndigbo. Saudi investment of refinery in SS is strategic political investment to secure northern ownership of the oil, with all this Biafra noise. It is a further signal that the territory has been marked for expansion of Isalm, as evident in the ISIS map. Wen BBC igbo start wishing u happy Eid, u thought it was a joke right? Alot of u dont know that wen u meet white people and they ask which country u come from, they dont just stop there. They go away to find out your tribe and that dictates where they place u. They know u all by your tribes and have already made decisions based on that information. (even have info on ur dna on their database) Ndiigbo wake up. |
hammerFC: 6:55pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
THE WAR AGAINST IGBO IS A GLOBAL EFFORT. HATRED FOR NDIIGBO, IS WAT THE WEST AND MIDDLE-EAST HAVE IN COMMON. FOR IGBO, SAUDI AND BRITAIN WILL GET INTO BED AS ONE. DONT JUST THINK, IS YORUBA AND HAUSA ALONE. YORUBA AND HAUSA DID NOT REMOVE AND THREATEN JONATHAN. THE EFFORTS CAME FROM MORROCO WITHDRAWING THEIR DIPLOMAT WITH NO PROVOCATION. THE EFFORT CAME FROM BBC CORRUPTION PROPAGANDA AGAINST GEJ. THE EFFORT CAME FROM US ARMS EMBARGO AGAINST GEJ AND AMERICAN WARSHIPS IN OUR OCEAN. THE EFFORT CAME ALL FROM OUTSIDE AND IT WAS BECOS OF NDIIGBO. U PEOPLE SHOULD GO AND ASK BRITAIN, WAT IGBOS REALLY DID TO DEM OR IS IT BECOS WE WANTED INDEPENDENCE? 1 Like |
hammerFC: 7:01pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
DURING BIAFRA WAR, WE HAD EGYPT DROPPING BOMBS ON US. WE REALLY NEED TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A TALK AND LEARN ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND WAT IS HAPPENING TO US. HOW CAN DEY ASK U, WHERE U COME FROM AND U HAVE NO NOTABLE CITY? ALL OF U WILL BE CLAIMING LAGOS AND ABUJA? THE SAME LAGOS YORUBA USE TO INSULT U AND SLEEP WITH UR WOMEN? OR ABUJA WHERE FULANI THREATEN TO DEAL WITH U LOT? HOW CAN U NOT BUILD YOUR REGION BUT OTHER REGIONS ARE USING U TO BUILD THERE CITIES? NDIIGBO ISI ODIKWA UNU MMA? 1 Like |
raker300: 7:04pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
MIP farms anambra
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raker300: 7:05pm On Jun 06, 2019 |
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Abubakar Shekau, Boko Haram Leader Speaks To BBC Hausa, Enjoys Killing People.
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