NewStats: 3,263,810 , 8,181,474 topics. Date: Sunday, 08 June 2025 at 02:50 AM 4b4fy

Apina:

Shut the fvck up! There's nothing Godly about a serial molester

There is nothing godly about someone that uses f word. F word and God don't go together

SHOPPERS:


Go and read your Bible again Jo.

Paul was called, trained and commissioned.

And you are privy to all who God has called right? How do you know if God called this pastor or not?

sweetrace:


And the above is one of the problems with today’s Christianity. Greater works than Jesus is what Christians are called to. Paul was a Christian that was totally committed. The same level of commitment you’ve been called to.

I am telling you of a man that was a phenomenon
A man who lived almost 2000years ago and is still influencing our world very well till today.
How many of today's Christians can suffer half of what that man went for the Gospel
And it still didn't deter him

Today everything is bread and butter Christianity
Ability to influence even one generation no be beans talk less of generations upon generations

AmazonTopaz:

Morality has nothing to do with religion Mr man.
Religion does not make you good or bad your humanity makes you.
How long can you hold a child they would one day enter adulthood and make decisions as to what is morally right for them.

oooooohhhh...exactly ma point!!!!you are blessed!!!!!

IamLEGEND1:
Well before his missionary work began, Paul was an extremely brilliant, highly educated, & talented writer & orator with a deep understanding of the Torah and Jewish customs. That's the least you'd expect from someone who was trained under Gamaliel ; probably the most important Rabbi of his time. So, in of education, Paul was head and shoulders above every apostle of his time.

Do we need an education to have a relationship with God?

sweetrace:


Do we need an education to have a relationship with God?

naaaaaa....at all!!!! we dnt!!!when God is really ready to arrest u like he did Paul,HE definately will....'HIS ways are not our ways,we look at the outwards,my GOD looks at the inwards..'besides,all the acclaimed wisdom and education of humans is foolishness in the sight of God....!!!!!

sweetrace:


Is this how Pail corrected Peter?

Gal 2:14

14 But when I saw that they were not really obeying the truth that is in the good news, I corrected Peter in front of everyone

djon78:


Like I stated, if the case is true
Then the law should be brought hard against him.
Those that were molested should bring it to the law.
But Coming to social media is a no no

14 But when I saw that they were not really obeying the truth that is in the good news, I corrected Peter in front of everyone

AmazonTopaz:

Morality has nothing to do with religion Mr man.
Religion does not make you good or bad your humanity makes you.
How long can you hold a child they would one day enter adulthood and make decisions as to what is morally right for them.

Religion and morality are interwoven. You may be ignore the morality offered by Religion but there is no better place to get moral instructions than in religion tenets...
You may discard it tho... As a shild of the world

sweetrace:


Do we need an education to have a relationship with God?

I think you're missing the point here. Paul's (or anyone's) education might not be relevant when it comes to his relationship with God, but it definitely matters when it comes to his missionary work & establishing doctrines. At least then people will rest, assured that he isn't just pulling random ideas out his_ass.

The same goes for today's religious leaders. It's stupid to have a Pastor who hasn't been properly indoctrinated (maybe not at all) stand on a pulpit and be expected to be taken as an authority in matters concerning his religion. It's a quintessential case of the blind leading the blind which, needless to say, has been the catalyst for the woes of today's church.

femi4:
Gal 2:14

14 But when I saw that they were not really obeying the truth that is in the good news, I corrected Peter in front of everyone

Everyone meaning other disciples of Jesus Christ.

femi4:
14 But when I saw that they were not really obeying the truth that is in the good news, I corrected Peter in front of everyone

In front of his fellow brethren and body of believers not in front of the whole Roman empire. Peter was trying to segregate from gentile believers and Paul corrected him before everyone.

Not social media, before people who have no regard or respect for God

eni4real:
Religion and morality are interwoven. You may be ignore the morality offered by Religion but there is no better place to get moral instructions than in religion tenets...
You may discard it tho... As a shild of the world

So before religion came in how were the people of early times faring?
You do know that in some religions child marriage is moral,killing of twins is moral? Moral to convert your enemies wife, waging war and bloodshed is moral and so on.
Oga religion and morality are two different things your brain should be the one to code. Your humanity is the decider of that.

agbekeOreke86:
oooooohhhh...exactly ma point!!!!you are blessed!!!!!

Thank you.

sweetrace:
I don’t know this pastor or if the allegations are true. What I do know is that Timi has no right to tarnish anyone’s image without any evidence. If Timi actually has evidence, the Bible says to go to a brother in sin and correct him. Not use it as an opportunity to trend on social media. Timi can tell the pastors of his church and they’ll talk to the pastor in question. Plus what is this broken heart nonsense? Don’t the women know that he is married? If they decide to sleep with him thinking he’ll leave his wife for them, then they’re indeed crazy. If he rapes them, then that’s totally different. They should sue him.

Your first points were good, speaking from a biblical point of view. The rest are a complete hogwash.

A pastor is a shepherd with sheep or flocks coming to him for guidance, direction, protection and healing. A sheep means helpless, hopeless, powerless, broken, wounded, damaged. If a shepherd feasts on his wounded or broken sheep then he is of all men most despicable.

It doesn't even matter whether the sheep seduced the shepherd or gave him or her green light. You know why? Because the sheep is broken and came to the church for help.

The pastor has used a position of power, authority and trust to take advantage of a wounded sister or brethren and driven them into a deeper darkness and pain than the one they are coming from . And that's abominable.

The church must find a way to renounce and rid our churches of such men instead of playing the ostrich like the Catholic church did to children who were victims of sexual abuse for many years.

And no, this is not me saying that what Timi wrote is true or not but clearing you of a misconception.

IamLEGEND1:
I think you're missing the point here. Paul's (or anyone's) education might not be relevant when it comes to his relationship with God, but it definitely matters when it comes to his missionary work & establishing doctrines. At least then people will rest, assured that he isn't just pulling random ideas out his_ass.

The same goes for today's religious leaders. It's stupid to have a Pastor who hasn't been properly indoctrinated (maybe not at all) stand on a pulpit and be expected to be taken as an authority in matters concerning his religion. It's a quintessential case of the blind leading the blind which, needless to say, has been the catalyst for the woes of today's church.

agbekeOreke86 responded to my question to you with the following. I found it so apt I decided to quote her here.
“naaaaaa....at all!!!! we dnt!!!when God is really ready to arrest u like he did Paul,HE definately will....'HIS ways are not our ways,we look at the outwards,my GOD looks at the inwards..'besides,all the acclaimed wisdom and education of humans is foolishness in the sight of God....!!!!!”
Sometimes, in missionary work, one’s education may prove to be a hindrance. God knows this and gives the right leader or pastor to a group.

Pastor Biodun Fatoyinbo is a well known adulterer pastor of COZA! He has a huge reputation for adultery with beautiful ladies of COZA both home n abroad. Uru Eke and few other ' confessions years ago is enough to make him repent but it's hard for adulterer to resist beautiful women; they just can't. He is not a pastor but a soothsayer.

DeeMain:


Your first points were good, speaking from a biblical point of view. The rest are a complete hogwash.

A pastor is a shepherd with sheep's or flocks coming to him for guidance, direction, protection and healing. A sheep means helpless, hopeless, powerless, broken, wounded, damaged. If a shepherd feasts on his wounded or broken sheep then he is of all men most despicable.

It doesn't even matter whether the sheep seduced the shepherd or gave him or her green light because the sheep is broken. The pastor has used a position of power, authority and trust to take advantage of a wounded sister or brethren and driven them into a deeper darkness and pain than the one they are coming from . And that's abominable.

The church must find a way to renounce and rid our churches of such men instead of playing the ostrich like the Catholic church did to children who were victims of sexual abuse for many years.

And no, this is not me saying that what Timi wrote is true or not but clearing you of a misconception.

There’s no where I wrote the pastor was right to do what he did. However, Timi wrote about the pastor leaving behind broken hearted women everywhere. My point is that the women all knew he was married before they slept with him. Why are they broken hearted? Did they expect him to leave his wife for them?

AmazonTopaz:

So before religion came in how were the people of early times faring?
You do know that in some religions child marriage is moral,killing of twins is moral? Moral to convert your enemies wife, waging war and bloodshed is moral and so on.
Oga religion and morality are two different things your brain should be the one to code. Your humanity is the decider of that.

Like the humanists that condone same sex marriage abi?

AmazonTopaz:

Morality has nothing to do with religion Mr man.
Religion does not make you good or bad your humanity makes you.
How long can you hold a child they would one day enter adulthood and make decisions as to what is morally right for them.

Some people just find it hard to accept the mutual exclusivity of religion and morality. If it wasn't so, Nigeria would be without all the social and economic vices that have plagued it's society. Those "immoral" nations they're so quick to_shit on are light-years ahead in every positive aspect you can think of and we can't even dream of catching up.

sweetrace:


There’s no where I wrote the pastor was right to do what he did. However, Timi wrote about the pastor leaving behind broken hearted women everywhere. My point is that the women all knew he was married before they slept with him. Why are they broken hearted? Did they expect him to leave his wife for them?

Get this point nne, they are broken. It is breaking the broken for a pastor to sexually abuse his flock.

When a pastor who is an oracle of God and a representative of God, honoured and reverred by followers sleeps with one of those followers, the pastor betrays God and also destroys the soul and mind of that follower. Everything the person ever believed about life and God will probably be called into question. She might think that the whole Christianity thing is a scam. Her entire belief system might be shattered forever.

The church is a hospital where broken and bound people come to be mended and liberated. Pastors should not break and imprison those God sent to them to mend and set free.

femi4:
Wrong teaching, That's what happen when you isolate yourself from other believers. You fall into wrong teaching. Even Peter that Jesus said he's building his Church upon cannot claim that "Church lives in him"

No check and balances.....you will be in all manner of error and still be doing strong head just like you are doing now

really??wrong teaching??do u know the experiencies iv had and how long it took me to arrive at my descision that has and is still worling for me??does my not goin to the four walls of a building makes me isolate??i gat my bible with me,i gat the spirit of God within me to set,chastize n guide me aright and i found nowhere in the new 2 commandment Jesus gave viz-lov ur God with all your heart and to love my neighour as myself which compulsorily compells or forces me to go to church to becoming more of a christian.i follow only Jesus's teachings and not peters' nor pauls'!see,i know wot i know n bielive,u know urs.each man to his own.The inept knowledge of God is too deep than goin to church on sundays as a routine.may God help us all and broaden our knowledge and understanding of HIM!!!PS-its my head aint it??who made u judge over me??Peter??

Ishilove:
Were the they forced? You can only be manipulated if you allow it.

Ishilove, the power dynamic is heavily stacked against the sheep.

In the presence of power a great many persons look downwards in helplessness and powerlessness.
Chimamanda once wrote about a powerful publisher fond.ling with her breasts when she came to his office and she couldn't say or do a thing.

Here's a point I made earlier:

A pastor is a shepherd from God with sheep or flocks coming to him for guidance, direction, protection and healing. A sheep means helpless, hopeless, powerless, broken, wounded, damaged. If a shepherd feasts on his wounded or broken sheep then he is of all men most despicable.

It doesn't even matter whether the sheep seduced the shepherd or gave him or her green light. You know why? Because the sheep is broken and came to the church for help.

The pastor has used a position of power, authority and trust to take advantage of a wounded sister or brethren and driven them into a deeper darkness and pain than the one they are coming from . And that's abominable.

The church must find a way to renounce and rid our churches of such men instead of playing the ostrich like the Catholic church did to children who were victims of sexual abuse for many years.

And no, this is not me saying that what Timi wrote is true or not but clearing you of a misconception.

Ishilove:
Were the they forced? You can only be manipulated if you allow it.

The allegations are about rape

sweetrace:


agbekeOreke86 responded to my question to you with the following. I found it so apt I decided to quote her here.
“naaaaaa....at all!!!! we dnt!!!when God is really ready to arrest u like he did Paul,HE definately will....'HIS ways are not our ways,we look at the outwards,my GOD looks at the inwards..'besides,all the acclaimed wisdom and education of humans is foolishness in the sight of God....!!!!!”
Sometimes, in missionary work, one’s education may prove to be a hindrance. God knows this and gives the right leader or pastor to a group.

Regardless, it is never a good idea (never has been) to have a single human wield such an uncomfortable amount of power and influence over others.
which is why we have "men of god" starting a church they'll quickly name themselves general overseers of, then proceeding to make themselves rich off the hard work of their followers.
There is no smoke without fire, and in an ideal world someone who has been accused, not for the first time, of being a predator would have been made to answer a few tough questions. But what do we have in this man's case? Nothing. He may only choose to dignify said accusations with a reply only if he chooses to. This is what happens when fallible humans are left to operate with no oversight.

His motives and level of education (or lack there of) are pretty much irrelevant in this case. That was the point I was trying to make in the first place.

djon78:


In front of his fellow brethren and body of believers not in front of the whole Roman empire. Peter was trying to segregate from gentile believers and Paul corrected him before everyone.

Not social media, before people who have no regard or respect for God

So, his wrongdoings shouldn't be made public because people who don't adhere to your notion of what religion is supposed to be are incapable of discerning right from wrong, is that what you're saying?

kolnel:
lol
Gullible black men worshipping the white god
Still expecting to fly to heaven without a rocket or air plane just by rapture


I wonder if we are cursed for liking anything Tokunbo
Tokunbo car, Tokunbo god

Kudos to the pastor keep firing , I envy him

Tokunbo God

Ishilove:
Were the they forced? You can only be manipulated if you allow it.

Really?
Nothing about this whole thing bothers you?
Even if everything was consensual, the power dynamic is so horribly lopsided one would even argue the women never really had any power to begin with, even if they don't know it.

Exploiting your position of power, one that usually involves people confiding in you their deepest fears and insecurities...
then to turn around and use that privilege to prey on those people, sexually or otherwise, is beyond reprehensive, and people like that shouldn't have a place in our society, much less be permitted to continue operating unchecked & unquestioned.

AmazonTopaz:

So before religion came in how were the people of early times faring?
You do know that in some religions child marriage is moral,killing of twins is moral? Moral to convert your enemies wife, waging war and bloodshed is moral and so on.
Oga religion and morality are two different things your brain should be the one to code. Your humanity is the decider of that.

Let's take Christianity, Islam and Africa trad Religion for instance. They all preach morals. But it is left to you to abide by the tenets or choose to be distraught by ills of some characters in the religion...

djon78:


Like the humanists that condone same sex marriage abi?

Mutuality is subjective so you cannot authoritatively say same sex marriage is bad or don't you know some Christians same sex unions?

thunder fire the person that will come out to type touch not my anointed or defend this man.

several yahoo pastors existing these days.

it is not everybody that shouts lord lord that will make heaven.

eni4real:
Let's take Christianity, Islam and Africa trad Religion for instance. They all preach morals. But it is left to you to abide by the tenets or choose to be distraught by ills of some characters in the religion...

Story you may be right but that moral teaching is not exclusive to them alone.
Some of the examples I highlighted are some of the moral thoughts made by them.