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Anas09:

I asked you if those challenges are peculiar to just JW and not to evangelicals?

How many evangelicals engage in door-to-door preaching and continue unbowed even when doors get slammed in their faces?

AyamConfidence:
I think he made a mistake in answering your question.... It was said that 1914 marked the beginning of Christ's enthronement as King of God's heavenly kingdom and the beginning of the last days about which Jesus told his disciples in the book of Matthew 24:3-21....Jesus categorically stated in verse36 that nobody knows the day or time... we were only given the signs of the last days and surely we have seen thus signs being fulfilled since 1914....thank you

The witness did not dispute my claim. Are you a witness?

paulGrundy:


Please do try to check out this site also for a balanced view on why witnesses call micheal Jesus.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/revelation-daniel-prophetic-interpretation.php

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APOSTATE

JMAN05:


National anthem is a religious song to the nation just like Nebuchadnezzar's song to his image. It is idolatry.

wao I never knew jehova witness also detest nation anthem until now. but my Jehovah witness frend do sing it while in secondary school. but truely there is nothing idolatry about it. is a sign of petrotism to ones country

to find more information about the anointed ones ask any of the witnesses in your area

Ranchhoddas:
Does it not tell you that there is something 'un-divine' about your organisation?

Galatians 2:11-14

Apostle Peter (cephas) was wrong about the application of the mosaic law on circumcision, he was reproof by Apostle Paul.
The fact that Peter was wrong didn’t make him 'un-divine'


It's one thing to be wrong and aanother thing to accept your wrong rather than make excuses for them

Anas09:


Does it not?
Am very sure you didn't read it. Its not written by Watchtower u won't read it. U just came out to call me a liar, did u read it?

how did you know he didn't read , the fact that he asked you to provide evidence from Russell himself claiming the founder title and you couldn't showed you are the biased one here .

AyamConfidence:
APOSTATE

Why are you calling him "apostate"? Is he apostate in GOD's eye?

Anas09:
Are facts there true or false?

The site must be vetted first. Paul Grundy and his likes dish out lots of misinformation out there.

mayorbch:
Yes they did until 325AD or thereabout. Man tried to change it from Saturday sabbath to Sunday, 1st day of the week because Jesus resurrected on Sunday. Jesus as his custom was... entered the synagogue on the sabbath and taught the people. The apostles, early church observed that day of rest that God told the isrealites to " to keep holy... " These days we claim all the promises of the isrealites made to them by God. Some would say "but we are not isrealites nah" then why is the old testament and the 10 commandments still in your Bible? Read Gal 3:26-29 and find out how we are all isrealites. Then why should we expunge just that 4th commandment from the rest? So please tell me, why don't jehova witnesses worship on, or observe, or keep the sabbath day holy?

1. Yes they did until 325AD
Comment: Please, give source!
2. Jesus as his custom was... entered the synagogue on the sabbath and taught the people.
Comment: Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath. After he died christian congregation might have rested on Sabbath, but nowhere is it in respect of the Mosaic Sabbath. No bible proof or is there?
3. Any christian celebrating of keeping the Sabbath, nails Christ to the cross afresh!

Tumm:


Galatians 2:11-14

Apostle Peter (cephas) was wrong about the application of the mosaic law on circumcision, he was reproof by Apostle Paul.
The fact that Peter was wrong didn’t make him 'un-divine'


It's one thing to be wrong and aanother thing to accept your wrong rather than make excuses for them

When you are wrong time and time again, what should I think? Exactly how many times has your organization been wrong and lastly, who is Paul Grundy?

DoctorAlien:


Tell me, friend, what goes to hellfire?

you are asking someone who doesn't believe in hellfire what goes to hellfire ? must you comment . she only pose a challenge

Ranchhoddas:
The witness did not dispute my claim. Are you a witness?

I am.... I am sorry for my brother's mistake.... we're all humans after all

DoctorAlien:


Tell me, friend, what goes to hellfire?

you are asking someone who doesn't believe in the hellfire myth what goes to hellfire ? must you comment . she only pose a challenge

DoctorAlien:


Why are you calling him "apostate"? Is he apostate in GOD's eye?

He knows himself.... I won't reply to a quote concerning this again

DoctorAlien:


Why are you calling him "apostate"? Is he apostate in GOD's eye?

How can one have an answer to that? Maybe we should ask the POPE

themall:

1. Yes they did until 325AD Please, give source!
2. Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath. After he died christian congregation might have rested on Sabbath, but nowhere is it in respect of the Mosaic Sabbath. No bible proof or is there?
3. Any christian celebrating of keeping the Sabbath, nails Christ to the cross afresh!

1. It's not hard to find out who tried to change GOD's unchangeable Sabbath. Read.

2. Well, you're right: the Sabbath is not Mosaic: it is GOD's unchangeable Sabbath.

3. Really? So Paul crucified Jesus afresh?

Ranchhoddas:
The witness did not dispute my claim. Are you a witness?

Ayamconfidence is right.

SaffronSpice:

Ayamconfidence is right.

thanks bro

You are not the first witness I'd be talking to so I know what I am saying. This is from an ex-witness

AyamConfidence:
I am.... I am sorry for my brother's mistake.... we're all humans after all

www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/failed-1914-predictions.php

SaffronSpice:


Ayamconfidence is right.

www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/failed-1914-predictions.php

SaffronSpice:

Check the link for biblical citations.

So biblical citations have 1914 in them? All I see here is damage control. If it were another denomination that made this blunder no rationalization would have been accepted by JWs as such would become their headlines in Awake week after week.

DoctorAlien:


1. It's not hard to find out who tried to change GOD's unchangeable Sabbath. Read.

2. Well, you're right: the Sabbath is not Mosaic: it is GOD's unchangeable Sabbath.

3. Really? So Paul crucified Jesus afresh?

Read my post again. {1 AD Christians + Sabbath-keeping}. Thank me later.
THEN of course, it is God's unchangeable Sabbath. Christians understand it in a different way to what the Jews and Sabbath-keepers understand.
: Spiritual Jews are different to physical Jews.

SaffronSpice:

The site must be vetted first.
Paul Grundy and his likes dish out lots of misinformation out there.

Lolzz, didn't get them from Paul. So if Paul posts facts that a true we shd ignore?

Ranchhoddas:
www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/failed-1914-predictions.php

Sorry bro but I don't visit apostate sites.... neither do we discuss with apostates

Is this the proper way to preach the good news?

You have to be careful o

Ranchhoddas:
When you are wrong time and time again, what should I think? Exactly how many times has your organization been wrong and lastly, who is Paul Grundy?

I don't know how many times.
Maybe you can tell me.
And about "Paul Grundy"...He is Paul Grundy. That the most I know about him.

I'm not a spokesperson for the witnesses.
However you can always visit jw.org to find answers to your questions or better still locate a kingdom hall near you.

Cheers

solite3:
Christ was not a sinner so hell cannot affect him and he went there to release the righteous.
So your rant is lame!

Lol. so there are righteous people in hell now!

You have forgotten your threat "hell is real".

Since there are righteous people in hell, why were you bothering your self telling the so called sinner about it since righteous people go to hell?

SMH for you all.

solite3:
Christ was not a sinner so hell cannot affect him and he went there to release the righteous.
So your rant is lame!

Lol. so there are righteous people in hell now!

JWs,

You claim you abide by the Bible. Can you give a Scriptural for your observance of Sunday and your disregard for GOD's holy Sabbath?

My two questions are directed not to the OP alone but to all the Christians in d house...


1) how was Jesus crucified, on the pole or cross ?


2) which is the right day to go to church, Saturday or Sunday ?

SaffronSpice:


Ayamconfidence is right.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/failed-1914-predictions.php

Deadlytruth:


So biblical citations have 1914 in them? All I see here is damage control. If it were another denomination that made this blunder no rationalization would have been accepted by JWs as such would become their headlines in Awake week after week.

DAMAGE CONTROL?! Or telling the truth? Evidently, another independent!