NewStats: 3,264,761 , 8,184,636 topics. Date: Thursday, 12 June 2025 at 10:16 AM 2s5p3i

ChristineC:
Osihmen's camp need to communicate clearly on what the player wants. I think there's a lot of "dem say" news about the player's demands or aspirations.
this is a transfer window where clubs like Man United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Barcelona could use a center forward of his calibre. how are nobodies like Sesko, Ekitike, Mateta gaining better traction on the market?
he 100% needs to higher better PR.

I actually feel he has not had a competent agent all through his career. I am just imagining him under jorge mendes, late raiola or even that morata's agent.
He wouldn't have even gone to turkey last season as they would have proposed him to a big club then use bonuses and match incentives to cushion his huge salary.

Just look at joao felix, with how bad he has been playing for three seasons now, they will still find one big club to push him to this season again.

CapitalCee:


If we are not in the top 4, and within the striking distance of the 1st position. Like 10 points or even 15 points depending on the performance of the 1st position. If he not there, I will be firmly Amorim out.

Top 4 is different from the title challenge you mentioned earlier sha.

If title challenge is the target for next season they should just sack him now. We finished 30-40 points below teams who are buying players that are as good or better than our players.

The teams that finished dozens of points above us are not standing still and it would take more than 1 window to catch up with them.

I am expecting a Top 4 finish or at the very worst Europa League qualification through the league (not FA Cup, Carabao Cup qualification). The football MUST also improve SIGNIFICANTLY.

Leyqute:


Una don start with una expectations. Take it easy abeg.

If the team gels well and the new guys boost our goal tally, we could finish near the top end of the table. If we find ourselves in a title race, it would be a pleasant surprise and by no means should anyone mandate a league title victory before the new gs kick a ball, all because we play a game a week until September or October.

Plunging Manchester United to 15th position Underachievers/Relegation flirts is a Mortal sin punishable by a violent death. Amorim literally brought the club to it's knees, breaking all sorts of negative records left, right and centre!

As e don escape sledge Hammer for now, the only atonement for the heinous crimes he committed last term, is to overachieve next season.

CapitalCee:


We need to always establish a convent, so that we will be training reverend fathers there.

I tell you.

Oasis007:




.....make una go gather players from Madrasah as well. LOL!

ChristineC:
Osihmen's camp need to communicate clearly on what the player wants. I think there's a lot of "dem say" news about the player's demands or aspirations.
this is a transfer window where clubs like Man United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Barcelona could use a center forward of his calibre. how are nobodies like Sesko, Ekitike, Mateta gaining better traction on the market?
he 100% needs to higher better PR.

He has a good for nothing team and agent.

If to say na person like Raiola handle him matter, he for no dey this situation.

rooftops:


I actually feel he has not had a competent agent all through his career. I am just imagining him under jorge mendes, late raiola or even that morata's agent.
He wouldn't have even gone to turkey last season as they would have proposed him to a big club then use bonuses and match incentives to cushion his huge salary.

Just look at joao felix, with how bad he has been playing for three seasons now, they will still find one big club to push him to this season again.

You have said my mind.

afrodoc:


Top 4 is different from the title challenge you mentioned earlier sha.

If title challenge is the target for next season they should just sack him now. We finished 30-40 points below teams who are buying players that are as good or better than our players.

The teams that finished dozens of points above us are not standing still and it would take more than 1 window to catch up with them.

I am expecting a Top 4 finish or at the very worst Europa League qualification through the league (not FA Cup, Carabao Cup qualification). The football MUST also improve SIGNIFICANTLY.

I had 2 comments, the earlier one, I said if he fails to make top 4 after g Gyokeres for example and replaced Onana, he should be sacked. I still stand by that, considering we will be playing one match a week.

Then my second comment, I said he should be challenging for the title, I didnt say he should be sacked if he is not challenging. If for instance after 19 matches in December the 1st position is at 45 points, and we are 35 points, and at 2nd-6th position, I will not be calling for his sack. But, i hear some people saying just top half of the table is OK. Top half is not acceptable for me. We have to be in the mix for top 4. If not sack him immediately.

CapitalCee:


I had 2 comments, the earlier one, I said if he fails to make top 4 after g Gyokeres for example and replaced Onana, he should be sacked. I still stand by that, considering we will be playing one match a week.

Then my second comment, I said he should be challenging for the title, I didnt say he should be sacked if he is not challenging. If for instance after 19 matches in December the 1st position is at 45 points, and we are 35 points, and at 2nd-6th position, I will not be calling for his sack. But, i hear some people saying just top half of the table is OK. Top half is not acceptable for me. We have to be in the mix for top 4. If not sack him immediately.

Top half alone is not good enough.

He has to make Europe through the league while playing good football. I expect Top 4 and might be okay with Top 6 is the football looks good and there are signs it will get better.

Even if he makes Top 4 with unsustainable jaguda football I won’t be okay with keeping him. Jose and Ole came 2nd in that fashion and even ETH came 3rd.

ChristineC:
Osihmen's camp need to communicate clearly on what the player wants. I think there's a lot of "dem say" news about the player's demands or aspirations.
this is a transfer window where clubs like Man United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Barcelona could use a center forward of his calibre. how are nobodies like Sesko, Ekitike, Mateta gaining better traction on the market?
he 100% needs to higher better PR.

Twitter banger boys and "influencers" wey he carry body is not doing him any good. He needs a very good agent.

ChristineC:

what of Emi Martinez?

Is he not close to 35 or something?

CapitalCee:


I have seen it online, where are fans are calling for him to be signed. I have said it before and will still maintain it. The biggest problem Man United have is the online fan base. We are like England and Nigerian national team, where media and online ITKs bombard the management with unintelligent opinions and destroy the team.

Find a competent GK to replace Onana and sign Viktor Gyokeres. Simple and short.

We should not let desperation push us to g skreps o

CapitalCee:


If we are not in the top 4, and within the striking distance of the 1st position. Like 10 points or even 15 points depending on the performance of the 1st position. If he not there, I will be firmly Amorim out.

So you’re demanding that a new manager who just had a disastrous season achieve what no other manager has achieved since SAF retired next season… even though the club is miles behind the competition in of recruitment project phase and so on… and if he doesn’t do that he should be sacked. Ba?

Okay sir.

Jamiuokolaa:


Plunging Manchester United to 15th position Underachievers/Relegation flirts is a Mortal sin punishable by a violent death. Amorim literally brought the club to it's knees, breaking all sorts of negative records left, right and centre!

As e don escape sledge Hammer for now, the only atonement for the heinous crimes he committed last term, is to overachieve next season.

Look at it from this angle:

One of United’s major problems last season was scoring goals. That’s why we finished 8th.

New season reach, we bought one attacker - Zirkzee… who doesn’t even know if he’s a CF or a 10.

Then— get this, you sack the manager (ETH), then sent two attackers on loan - Rashy and Antony. Then you expect this new manager to use the formerly dysfunctional now decimated attack to score consistently?

Amorim didn’t cover himself in glory last season but it was a difficult job already. That’s the excuse he’s going to have. With decent recruitment this summer, he won’t have that luxury next season.

Jamiuokolaa:


Plunging Manchester United to 15th position Underachievers/Relegation flirts is a Mortal sin punishable by a violent death. Amorim literally brought the club to it's knees, breaking all sorts of negative records left, right and centre!

As e don escape sledge Hammer for now, the only atonement for the heinous crimes he committed last term, is to overachieve next season.

Funny thing is the stance will be that a top 10 finish sufficient. At least he got us from 15th to 10th. It’s progress, we just need to buy another set of players for him next summer for a top 4 finish.

Leyqute:


Look at it from this angle:

One of United’s major problems last season was scoring goals. That’s why we finished 8th.

New season reach, we bought one attacker - Zirkzee… who doesn’t even know if he’s a CF or a 10.

Then— get this, you sack the manager (ETH), then sent two attackers on loan - Rashy and Antony. Then you expect this new manager to use the formerly dysfunctional now decimated attack to score consistently?

He sent them on loan - nobody forced him to do so...

Leyqute:

Amorim didn’t cover himself in glory last season but it was a difficult job already. That’s the excuse he’s going to have. With decent recruitment this summer, he won’t have that luxury next season.

He has no excuse whatsoever...

Nobody asked him to qualify for the CL like Conte did at Spurs, neither did we ask him to enter top 4 like Tuchel did at Chelsea.

15th position, no matter how much we try to spin it, would forever remain an unacceptable finish by a Man utd manager who came in just after Week 11 or so.

When Wolves manager don outperform you for league as a UTD coach despite managing fewer games, it just shows the depths to which Amorim sunk last season. It was a dreadful performance to say the least.

Imagine a UTD manager being in the conversation to be ranked as one of the worst PL coaches of all time? He even had to be rescued!! Haba!!

Like I said earlier, he had better pull a rabbit out of the hat next season and punch above his weight.

That's the only way he can, to an extent, atone for his crimes against humanity.

nitrogen:


Funny thing is the stance will be that a top 10 finish sufficient. At least he got us from 15th to 10th. It’s progress, we just need to buy another set of players for him next summer for a top 4 finish.

Na one of the reasons why that 15th dey vex me.

Like you said, some would still see 9th place finish as "progress" in the right direction!

Mehn...who do us this thing?

nitrogen:


Funny thing is the stance will be that a top 10 finish sufficient. At least he got us from 15th to 10th. It’s progress, we just need to buy another set of players for him next summer for a top 4 finish.

With decent recruitments made in the summer, a top 10 finish will not be acceptable. Minimum is top 6 with a clear football pattern and noticeable improvements in the way we play.

Emphasis on minimum.

nitrogen:


Funny thing is the stance will be that a top 10 finish sufficient. At least he got us from 15th to 10th. It’s progress, we just need to buy another set of players for him next summer for a top 4 finish.

The players the club are currently chasing, do you think they're good enough for the club?

afrodoc:


Top half alone is not good enough.

He has to make Europe through the league while playing good football. I expect Top 4 and might be okay with Top 6 is the football looks good and there are signs it will get better.

Even if he makes Top 4 with unsustainable jaguda football I won’t be okay with keeping him. Jose and Ole came 2nd in that fashion and even ETH came 3rd.

On reflection top 6 with sustainable pattern of game like you said is ok, but the expectation will rise the following season.

Wetin dey give osimen mind say big team go sign am
Or that
Galatasaray go fit afford am.

It will end in another loan

Also what's the update on
Sancho
Anthony
Rashford
Garnacho
Malacia


That's easy 200m if we play our cards right

Leyqute:


So you’re demanding that a new manager who just had a disastrous season achieve what no other manager has achieved since SAF retired next season… even though the club is miles behind the competition in of recruitment project phase and so on… and if he doesn’t do that he should be sacked. Ba?

Okay sir.

I said within striking distance bro. 10/15 points difference from the top is not too much. ETH, Ole and Mourinho were not far away from 1st at some points. Infact ETH finished with 75 points in his first season. Amorim already had 7 months to access the squad. If he cant be within 10 points within 1st place, he must leave. Thats about 65-75 points, thats not asking too much TBH.

Considering we are playing 1 game a week, Next season Amorim should be able to get at least 10/14 home wins vs teams like Bournemouth, Palace, Everton, Brighton, Forest, Fulham, Sunderland, Villa, Brentford, Leeds, Burnley, Spurs, West Ham, Wolves. And avoid defeats in at least 4/6 home games vs Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Newcastle. No home heavy defeats to mid table teams. If he can’t achieve this, he should be sent packing, this is Manchester United. His honeymoon/ acclimatisation period is over, now is business time.

Mrviktor:
Wetin dey give osimen mind say big team go sign am
Or that
Galatasaray go fit afford am.

It will end in another loan

We can sign him on loan.

CapitalCee:


I said within striking distance bro. 10/15 points difference from the top is not too much. ETH, Ole and Mourinho were not far away from 1st at some points. Infact ETH finished with 75 points in his first season. Amorim already had 7 months to access the squad. If he cant be within 10 points within 1st place, he must leave. Thats about 65-75 points, thats not asking too much TBH.

Considering we are playing 1 game a week, Next season Amorim should be able to get at least 10/14 home wins vs teams like Bournemouth, Palace, Everton, Brighton, Forest, Fulham, Sunderland, Villa, Brentford, Leeds, Burnley, Spurs, West Ham, Wolves. And avoid defeats in at least 4/6 home games vs Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Newcastle. No home heavy defeats to mid table teams. If he can’t achieve this, he should be sent packing, this is Manchester United. His honeymoon/ acclimatisation period is over, now is business time.

When was the last time United finished 10-15 points from first position in the last 12 years?

Mourinho finished 19 points behind City by the way. Ole finished 12 points behind City.

Those were the two best seasons we’ve had post SAF.

But you want a squad that just finished 15th to double their points tally and sur this feat—- because they play once per week.

You think the City that is buying players like atarodo and Arsenal and the other teams that finished above us will be looking like mumu while we overtake them abi?

The realistic finish should be top 4 or top 6 with a good and improved playing style. Anything above that (like title race) na jara.

Leyqute:


When was the last time United finished 10-15 points from first position in the last 12 years?

Mourinho finished 19 points behind City by the way. Ole finished 12 points behind City.

Those were the two best seasons we’ve had post SAF.

But you want a squad that just finished 15th to double their points tally and sur this feat—- because they play once per week.

You think the City that is buying players like atarodo and Arsenal and the other teams that finished above us will be looking like mumu while we overtake them abi?

The realistic finish should be top 4 or top 6 with a good and improved playing style. Anything above that (like title race) na jara.

ETH came in after a disappointing season had just a preseason, lost first 2 games due to trying to find the best formation. He then went ahead to finish 9 points behind treble winning City. That season we reached FA cup final and won the League Cup. We also reached Europa league Quarter finals. We played 10 matches in Europa alone that season, reached the final of the other 2 competitions and finished on 75 points. we lost a lot of players due to fixture congestions, He had to deal with Ronaldo late arrival to camp, and Sancho issues. If Amorim cannot muster 65-75 points at least this season without fixture congestion, after the 6 months of squad assessment and pre season, then sacking him will not be enough punishment.

Mourinho finished 19 points behind City, because City got 100 points. The 2 seasons that Ole finished he had 66pts and 74points. Van Gaal got 70pts and 66 points.
We are not reducing our standards because Amorim was atrocious to get us to 15th. My point is if he fails to make Europe through the league and get at least 65 points next season. He must be sacked.

CapitalCee:


ETH came in after a disappointing season had just a preseason, lost first 2 games due to trying to find the best formation. He then went ahead to finish 9 points behind treble winning City. That season we reached FA cup final and won the League Cup. We also reached Europa league Quarter finals. We played 10 matches in Europa alone that season, reached the final of the other 2 competitions and finished on 75 points. we lost a lot of players due to fixture congestions, He had to deal with Ronaldo late arrival to camp, and Sancho issues. If Amorim cannot muster 65-75 points at least this season without fixture congestion, after the 6 months of squad assessment and pre season, then sacking him will not be enough punishment.

Mourinho finished 19 points behind City, because City got 100 points. The 2 seasons that Ole finished he had 66pts and 74points. Van Gaal got 70pts and 66 points.
We are not reducing our standards because Amorim was atrocious to get us to 15th. My point is if he fails to make Europe through the league and get at least 65 points next season. He must be sacked.

There’s no need for long stories. In your first and second posts on this issue, you were asking Amorim for a title race next season or get sacked.

CapitalCee:


It may look ridiculous, but if we get those g with only 1 game per week, he should be competing for the league title.

CapitalCee:


If we are not in the top 4, and within the striking distance of the 1st position. Like 10 points or even 15 points depending on the performance of the 1st position. If he not there, I will be firmly Amorim out.

Now, you’re shifting goal posts.

If it takes over 90 points to win the title next season (like it has for like 5 of the last 6 seasons), you think the squad that garners an average of 66 points per season to suddenly accumulate 75 to 80 points— even if they only managed a measly 42 points last season and had the fourth worst goal scoring record in the league?

Like I said several times before, the realistic expectation is too 4 to top 6. I don’t have time for long arguments.

CapitalCee:


We can sign him on loan.

Will he be able to withstand the heat ?
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TheLequte:


There’s no need for long stories. In your first and second posts on this issue, you were asking Amorim for a title race next season or get sacked.





Now, you’re shifting goal posts.

If it takes over 90 points to win the title next season (like it has for like 5 of the last 6 seasons), you think the squad that garners an average of 66 points per season to suddenly accumulate 75 to 80 points— even if they only managed a measly 42 points last season and had the fourth worst goal scoring record in the league?

Like I said several times before, the realistic expectation is too 4 to top 6. I don’t have time for long arguments.

I didn’t say or get sacked in the title race post. Read carefully, i was saying he should be competing for the title ideally, and that not really crazy.

He should be getting top 4 at least or get sacked was my initial post, but after conversation with Afrodoc2. I agreed that Europa league place with progressive football is appropriate. That was the reason why I pegged the acceptable range to 65-75 points. Mind you that i am expecting this target given that we have less fixture congestion.

I didn’t say, 75-80, i said 65-75. If the champions finish like 95 points and we get 70points. That will be an acceptable range

ACE come out ...

Omo! Imagine Mendes in place of Dorgu

afrodoc:


Top half alone is not good enough.

He has to make Europe through the league while playing good football. I expect Top 4 and might be okay with Top 6 is the football looks good and there are signs it will get better.

Even if he makes Top 4 with unsustainable jaguda football I won’t be okay with keeping him. Jose and Ole came 2nd in that fashion and even ETH came 3rd.

......I agree.