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Popular Gospel Singer Michael Tait Involved In Drug And Sexual Scandal (476 Views)
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Image123(m): 9:06am On Jun 07 |
Contemporary Christian Music group Newsboys responded to recent allegations of sexual assault and drug use against former lead singer Michael Tait, who abruptly stepped away from the group in January. https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/michael-tait-sexual-assault-claims-newsboys-response-1235991500/ https://www.instagram.com/p/DKh8DiZScIO/
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Image123(m): 9:06am On Jun 07 |
This is so unfortunate. This guy is the brother of Lynda Randle and very popular in gospel music. We keep saying it that the lifestyles of these "leaders" lead many away from christianity. When we say they should be careful and exhibit some external christlikeness, they will immediately and harshly accuse us of judging. You will see all types of threats and curses coming from christians when people express dissent or differing opinion about what they do. It is well. i pray that the body of Christ heals, this is one serious blow to many. 3 Likes 1 Share |
GOFRONT(m): 10:58am On Jun 07 |
So because he is a Gospel Artiste make he no fvck again??
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LordReed(m): 11:15am On Jun 07 |
Image123: I was waiting for this shoe to drop. Look, we are all human beings and will make mistakes but claiming you have some magic sky daddy that gives you supernatural power to overcome "sin" is nonsense. BTW I loved DC Talk back in the day, I even still listen to some tracks. But I have lost the illusion that there is any supernatural power working any magic anywhere. |
LordReed(m): 11:19am On Jun 07 |
Image123: Even the ones that exhibit the so called Christ likeness get involved in nonsense. We are humans, no sky daddy magic will change that. BTW didn't you claim that anyone who sins is not a Christian one time like that? |
Image123(m): 3:40pm On Jun 07 |
LordReed: We are all human beings but as many as received Him, to them He gave power to become the sons of God, saved from the power of sin. We don't all go doing drugs and assaulting people sexaully and whatever other sins. We actually overcome sin and temptation as an experience and decades of testifiable lifestyle. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Image123(m): 3:41pm On Jun 07 |
GOFRONT: A child of God does not commit adultery or do drugs. We roll differently. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Image123(m): 3:48pm On Jun 07 |
LordReed: As long as we are in the flesh, we can be tempted and the POSSIBILITY exists. Same way the possibility and reality of overcoming exists. It is very possible for you to fall off the stairs, but that doesn't mean that you MUST fall off. Many people have fallen off stairs this year, i want to believe that you know people who have not fallen off stairs this year. i don't think i claimed that anyone who falls into sin is not a christian, maybe i told you that someone was never a christian to begin with (or maybe i referred to professing christians, i don't the particular conversation). But if i clearly, i have stated before that you used to be a genuine christian. We call it BACKSLIDING. Then, of course, there is a difference between a sinner (who sins as a lifestyle) and a christian. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Speaklove: 4:27pm On Jun 07 |
Image123: This comment made my day . 1 Like |
Speaklove: 4:29pm On Jun 07 |
LordReed: So are you saying sin is inherent in every human ? |
MaxInDHouse(m): 5:13pm On Jun 07 |
Image123: Entertainment is another bait Satan uses to keep many under spiritual bondage think of any singer in ancient times including biblical David and Solomon who never got into sexual scandals. Well the only true Christian organization don't promote singers rather we all sing to our God just as it was established in the Old temple worship where Levites sings to praise our God together. Of course God's children are Satan's target so we don't play with fire! ![]() |
LordReed(m): 6:29pm On Jun 07 |
Speaklove: Nope. Sin is religious nonsense layered on top of what is natural and normal in other to make the religious concepts have more impetus. For instance, you need sin to make the Adam and Eve story seem compelling likewise the purported human sacrifice performed by Jesus for salvation. None of those work when you realise some things are just normal human behaviour. |
DeepSight(m): 6:37pm On Jun 07 |
LordReed: Does the bold include murder? |
LordReed(m): 7:22pm On Jun 07 |
DeepSight: I wrote NORMAL human behaviour and you ask about murder. What about murder screams normal to you? |
DeepSight(m): 7:37pm On Jun 07 |
LordReed: Any look at history could easily convince one that it is normal human behavior. My argument is not with you - its a philosophical question I struggle with. That whereas we may have "civilized" ourselves with certain moral notions, at heart and in nature, survival of the fittest remains key and primal instincts rule - in a space where there is no room for quaint and pretty notions of morality - such that killing off an adversary to advance one's own interests just might be nothing bad in the eyes of the universe. It happens all the time among animals for instance, and no one thinks any morality is thereby offended. Even if we consider man a higher animal, that might only mean he will find higher ways of doing the same thing. For example, kill with greater sophistication. |
LordReed(m): 9:48pm On Jun 07 |
DeepSight: Animals don't murder, they kill. Murder is a legal term indicating illegal killing. This is not something that applies to animals. Most murders are not done for food or survival, that is not normal. It is normal for a carnivore to kill it's prey to feast on. It is normal for an animal to kill in self defence. It is not normal for an animal to just kill for no reason. |
DeepSight(m): 11:17pm On Jun 07 |
LordReed: Clearly you haven't seen cats killing mice or lizards which they do not eat but use as toys. Clearly you have not seen lions kill other lions for the sake of winning a lioness. And other animals do the same. I can go on and on but there are myriad scenarios where animals kill outside for food or defence. Now you should know that I know murder is a legal term. But what has law got to do with philosophy at an existential level. I am speaking about primal instinct and you are telling me that murder is a legal term. I am speaking about the way the universe might view a matter and you are telling me that murder is a legal term. As you well know, throughout history greedy tyrants have killed on a grand scale and indeed mass murder has been the prime way in which conquest was done and conquest pretty much established the demarcations and borders of the nations of today. The mere fact that we pick up an pen and scribble down some rules describing what manner of killing is legal or illegal will not change the fact that our world and its borders today have been set up largely by mass murder. Who even gets to define murder. Was what Bush and Blair did in Iraq mass murder or not. Is what Putin is doing in Ukraine mass murder or not. I said even as higher animals we will only find higher ways to fulfill primal instincts. So look at the problem of corruption in the world - the abuse of power for private interest. Is this theft of a kind or not, and is it normal for human beings? The law might say it is not, but history and the world around us decidedly say it is normal. You really have to ask yourself this question: is it normal, in the sight of the universe, for one higher animal to kill another for land, to seize its wife, or to enslave its children, or indeed for any other gain? The law (of today) might say no, but history decidedly says yes. Lastly - be careful not to conflate the word "normal" with "good" or "right." 1 Like |
LordReed(m): 10:08am On Jun 08 |
DeepSight: Cats hunting mice and other small animals is part of their predatory nature. Domestication did not erase that instinct so that even though their don't always eat their kill, it is still part of them. Humans have no such instinct. We are not obligate predators or carnivores that need to kill. Especially mass killing, it has to be done with extreme thought and calculation. That removes it from being normal. We can see it because it occurs in every era it is still despicable to most people. |
Joshthefirst(m): 10:11am On Jun 08 |
LordReed:is sexual assault and drug misues normal human behavior? Maybe you're downplaying God because you want to continue to live in sin. That's the majority reason people claim to not believe in God. So they can go on deceiving themselves that they won't ever be able. But their conscience bears or once bore witness and judgment is coming |
Joshthefirst(m): 10:14am On Jun 08 |
LordReed:is murder objectively wrong? Is deliberately and selfishly taking innocent life objectively wrong irrespective of human opinion or bias or majority? Your answer will let us know how to make you collapse on your position |
LordReed(m): 10:36am On Jun 08 |
Joshthefirst: My saying murder is a legal term should have already keyed you to my position. First off, there is no objective right or wrong. It is thinking beings who determine what is valuable and therefore what is wrong or right. Humans have evolved to have empathy so they view the taking of a human life as subtracting from something valuable. The universe at large has no concept of value for human life which is why a natural disasters can wipe out whole cities and it doesn't seem like anything special happened, the world continues turning as usual. There is no pause in the tides to mourn the ing of any human or humans. Murder as a legal concept is our way of imposing order to what would have been otherwise arbitrary killing. |
DeepSight(m): 10:36am On Jun 08 |
LordReed: This your response is weak. |
LordReed(m): 10:37am On Jun 08 |
DeepSight: Ok. |
LordReed(m): 10:39am On Jun 08 |
Joshthefirst: No they are not, which is why I called them mistakes. LoLz. Here they come with the usual nonsense. Please if you have nothing better to say find someone else to converse with. This tired canard is not worth my time. |
Darkandhandsom(m): 10:41am On Jun 08 |
Stop ing rubbish. He is an example and should live by it. Must you Bleep? If you must then get a wife. GOFRONT: |
DeepSight(m): 10:43am On Jun 08 |
LordReed: It doesn't help much because we could easily dispense with the word murder and ask if killing one another is normal human behavior. |
LordReed(m): 11:35am On Jun 08 |
DeepSight: Yes that is a better question. But I would still say no. Our human societies were built by cooperation not by killing. Yes killing occurred or occurs from time to time however I still don't see those as normal. |
DeepSight(m): 11:49am On Jun 08 |
LordReed: Ok, how about saying that humans have a natural tendency to violence and exploitation of one another. |
LordReed(m): 12:10pm On Jun 08 |
DeepSight: Yes I will accept that this is a natural tendency of humans with some caveats. The main caveat is our empathy modifies that behavior in varying degrees which is also another natural tendency. |
DeepSight(m): 12:12pm On Jun 08 |
LordReed: Alright then. Fair enough. |
Speaklove: 2:15pm On Jun 08 |
LordReed: But you agree that there is such a thing called "sin "? |
Dtruthspeaker: 2:36pm On Jun 08 |
Image123: Does not, does not mean cannot/will never not. Being a Christian means living a life perpetually refusing/resisting to do things that you can do. |
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