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Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 - European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) (21119) - Nairaland 4o5c5

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airmark(m): 1:14pm On Jun 07
Enzo5:
hold up play was the reason football shifted from 442 to sole striker.

hold up play becomes valuable when you play long balls and need a player to hold off defender, it has it's uses so I won't say it spoilt football. it becomes incredibly when a striker been able to receive a between defenders is also able to hold the ball, turn and place a solid shoot towards goal

It's because of yeye hold up play that made some people believe Jackson is a good striker. In fact his hold up play is not as good as hyped by his fans.

If you don't know how to strike the ball well, you are not a striker in my eyes.

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Kimbeast: 1:18pm On Jun 07
popizaino:


No be fight now.

You always carry yourself as the moral standard for equity,asking us to put context in everything. Now thats time for you to do just as you have always demanded ,you are saying a different thing.

Eh kimboobs ?

Ok let's compare conversion rate for each in both la Liga and Epl.

Jackson at Villarreal at a conversion rate of 32%, Alvarez this season is at 27%.

Alvarez last season for city had 14%, Jackson this season has 15%.

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AirBere: 1:30pm On Jun 07
Unlimited22:
What's happening to Italian football guys?

In 2009, if someone had told me there will come a time when Italy won't be qualifying for a world cup I'd have called that person insane.

But they are about to miss out on THREE in a row. That is INSANITY.


As a matter of fact, the last knockout World Cup game Italy played in was the 2006 final.

Knocked out of the groups in 2010 AND 2014, didn't make two in a row, and are about to miss out on 2026 in an expanded tournament with a qualifying group that Includes Norway and fvcking Israel and Estonia.

Isn't it just one game they've played so far? I think they'll qualify this time.
Bluelines69: 1:51pm On Jun 07
Kimbeast:

Reading this post one would think Alvarez was outscoring Jackson by a mile from open play.

Alvarez scored 12goals from open play in 37league games.

Jackson scored 10 in 30 this season.

Jackson last season in La Liga with Villarreal he scored 12 in 26games.

Alvarez might be better but stop acting like he's putting up ridiculous numbers that Jackson can't match.

All this one na talk, only that Alvarez goal vs Madrid in the champions league this season Jackson entire career, there’s absolutely nothing Jackson does better than Alvarez as a striker, Jackson no go see Argentina bench sef

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Kimbeast: 2:26pm On Jun 07
Bluelines69:


All this one na talk, only that Alvarez goal vs Madrid in the champions league this season Jackson entire career, there’s absolutely nothing Jackson does better than Alvarez as a striker, Jackson no go see Argentina bench sef
Well the stats disagree with you.
timbros(m): 2:31pm On Jun 07
popizaino:


Can you help us with their chances missed? Asking for myself.

Why is chances missed only comes into play when it's Jackson?

This just concluded season below..

I guess Watkins, Salah and Haaland are worst strikers because they missed big chances more than Jackson, no?

raumdeuter: 2:32pm On Jun 07
Unlimited22:
What's happening to Italian football guys?

In 2009, if someone had told me there will come a time when Italy won't be qualifying for a world cup I'd have called that person insane.

But they are about to miss out on THREE in a row. That is INSANITY.


As a matter of fact, the last knockout World Cup game Italy played in was the 2006 final.

Knocked out of the groups in 2010 AND 2014, didn't make two in a row, and are about to miss out on 2026 in an expanded tournament with a qualifying group that Includes Norway and fvcking Israel and Estonia.

The quality of footballers have reduced significantly

How many good players can you name in Italy. Which defender dem get wey be world class, now which midfielder is world class which striker is world class? The only world class is a goalkeeper and he can only do as much
Sportsweb: 2:42pm On Jun 07
drisham:


Rest

He is not walking straight into the starting line up


He will come as a sub and feature in cup games

We should bring him
I very sure He can't be worse than Pedro neto

it's good you understand he needs time. For me I want him to play regularly without interruption, Strasbourg will give him that. At Chelsea if he don't hit form quickly, Maresca will keep on rotating him, Neto and madueke looking for something to click as season gets together
BlueMann: 3:09pm On Jun 07
Much like her game against Swiatek, Sabalenka raced to a commanding 4-1 lead but was since broken a couple of times and now Gauff has tied the first set 4-4. Interesting game.

Sabalenka broke back and now serves for the first set
BlueMann: 3:14pm On Jun 07
Bosnia and Herzegovina struggling to beat San Marino? If they fail to win or score, FIFA should just double their ranking and send them from 70 to 140
BlueMann: 3:46pm On Jun 07
BlueMann:
Much like her game against Swiatek, Sabalenka raced to a commanding 4-1 lead but was since broken a couple of times and now Gauff has tied the first set 4-4. Interesting game.

Sabalenka broke back and now serves for the first set

Sabalenka takes the first set 7-6, even though Coco led 3-0 in the tiebreak. That's gotta hurt
Enzo5: 3:55pm On Jun 07
Sportsweb:
it's good you understand he needs time. For me I want him to play regularly without interruption, Strasbourg will give him that. At Chelsea if he don't hit form quickly, Maresca will keep on rotating him, Neto and madueke looking for something to click as season gets together
regular pro football is what you give a youth player not one who already has that, what he needs is to get into the team, even santos will start from the bench, all this loan talk won't even happen so end it

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Ballzproblemm: 4:00pm On Jun 07
Assnal love buying our used products,good luck kepa
Enzo5: 4:02pm On Jun 07
Unlimited22:
What's happening to Italian football guys?

In 2009, if someone had told me there will come a time when Italy won't be qualifying for a world cup I'd have called that person insane.

But they are about to miss out on THREE in a row. That is INSANITY.


As a matter of fact, the last knockout World Cup game Italy played in was the 2006 final.

Knocked out of the groups in 2010 AND 2014, didn't make two in a row, and are about to miss out on 2026 in an expanded tournament with a qualifying group that Includes Norway and fvcking Israel and Estonia.
lol their football and players didn't develop, very few are top players outside Italy or even within italy.
Enzo5: 4:06pm On Jun 07
world cup is next year, estevao would need to push himself and prove he is worth starting for brazil that has rodrygo, savinho and raphnina as rw options or even being in the squad
Capaldi: 4:06pm On Jun 07
Italy have quality players when everyone is fit.

Goalkeepers: Donnarumma, Vicario, Meret

Defenders: Cambaiasso/ Di Lorenzo. Bastoni. Scalvani/Calafiori Udogie/Di Marco

Midfield: Tonali, Barella and any of locatelli, Fratessi, Rovella, Zaniolo etc

Wingers: Maldini, Orsolina, Raspadori,

Strikers: Retegui with kean as back up.

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Enzo5: 4:10pm On Jun 07
Capaldi:
Italy have quality players when everyone is fit.

Goalkeepers: Donnarumma, Vicario, Meret

Defenders: Cambaiasso/ Di Lorenzo. Bastoni. Scalvani/Calafiori Udogie/Di Marco

Midfield: Tonali, Barella and any of locatelli, Fratessi, Rovella, Zaniolo etc

Wingers: Maldini, Orsolina, Raspadori,

Strikers: Retegui with kean as back up.

to be fair apart from bastoni, barella, tonali, retegui who are the others, like I have to goggle their wingers. ya zaniolo, fratessi, locatelli are names I recall but what have they done this past season. what did calafori even play for arsenal
Amethyst101(m): 4:15pm On Jun 07
BlueMann:


Sabalenka takes the first set 7-6, even though Coco led 3-0 in the tiebreak. That's gotta hurt

There were EIGHT breaks in that first set, gameplay was just all over the place from both of them.

Looks like Coco might take this 2nd set
Capaldi: 4:21pm On Jun 07
Enzo5:
to be fair apart from bastoni, barella, tonali, retegui who are the others, like I have to goggle their wingers. ya zaniolo, fratessi, locatelli are names I recall but what have they done this past season. what did calafori even play for arsenal
Let's compare them to England. They have better goalkeepers, better defenders, Tonali and Barella is a better midfield combination than Rice and Bellingham, England has better options in attack but Retegui,Kean, Orsolini, Raspadori can hold their own.
BlueMann: 4:23pm On Jun 07
Amethyst101:


There were EIGHT breaks in that first set, gameplay was just all over the place from both of them.

Looks like Coco might take this 2nd set

Yup, that first set was crazy, basically a repeat of the first set against Iga. Nice one Coco, Fantastic second set, difference is she was able to hold her serve much better than in the first set.

Onto the third and final set.
mosdii(m): 4:26pm On Jun 07
Amethyst101:


There were EIGHT breaks in that first set, gameplay was just all over the place from both of them.

Looks like Coco might take this 2nd set

Yea, she has. Good game from her winning 2:6.
Gucciboy: 4:30pm On Jun 07
Capaldi:
So Nico Williams release clause is just 58m euro.

That's his release clause since last summer. The problem is demanding 300k as salary
Enzo5: 4:34pm On Jun 07
Capaldi:

Let's compare them to England. They have better goalkeepers, better defenders, Tonali and Barella is a better midfield combination than Rice and Bellingham, England has better options in attack but Retegui,Kean, Orsolini, Raspadori can hold their own.
of course England have a better squad, but that you statement, anyway retegui I know who are they.

Look at norway's four attacking players haaland, soloth, larsen, odegaard, then when you want to mention those that can hold their own bobb, nusa but who is orsolini
Kimbeast: 4:37pm On Jun 07
Came across this. Juventus have lost 7 of their 9 champions league finals.

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raumdeuter: 4:41pm On Jun 07
Capaldi:

Let's compare them to England. They have better goalkeepers, better defenders, Tonali and Barella is a better midfield combination than Rice and Bellingham, England has better options in attack but Retegui,Kean, Orsolini, Raspadori can hold their own.

Besides goalkeeper they dont have any area better than England

Goalkeeper Italy
Defence equal or England even slightly better
Midfield England
Wingers England
Striker England by far
Capaldi: 4:45pm On Jun 07
Enzo5:
of course England have a better squad, but that you statement, anyway retegui I know who are they.

Look at norway's four attacking players haaland, soloth, larsen, odegaard, then when you want to mention those that can hold their own bobb, nusa but who is orsolini
England have better Attackers, Italy has better starting goalkeepers, defenders and midfielders. Orsoloni scored more league goals than Saka and Foden combined last season. Retegui scored more league goals than Soroloth or Haaland last season. Spalletti needs to get more from the squad. The players are descent enough.

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BlewMahn: 4:51pm On Jun 07
James, Madueke and Palmer start for England against Andorra
Capaldi: 4:51pm On Jun 07
raumdeuter:


Besides goalkeeper they dont have any area better than England

Goalkeeper Italy
Defence equal or England even slightly better
Midfield England
Wingers England
Striker England by far
If your list of England defenders includes Maguire then no further discussion.

Tonalli and Barella is a better combination than rice and whoever.

Apart from Kane England has no other striker.
Bluelines69: 4:56pm On Jun 07
BlewMahn:
James, Madueke and Palmer start for England against Andorra

Abeg make Tuchel leave James abeg, we take God beg am

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AirBere: 4:56pm On Jun 07
raumdeuter:


The quality of footballers have reduced significantly

How many good players can you name in Italy. Which defender dem get wey be world class, now which midfielder is world class which striker is world class? The only world class is a goalkeeper and he can only do as much

Who are the world class players in Switzerland and Denmark who always find themselves at the world cup?. I think their problem is beyond having world class players as almost all their players are serviceable enough to at least qualify for the world cup.
afrodoc2: 4:59pm On Jun 07
Capaldi:
Italy have quality players when everyone is fit.

Goalkeepers: Donnarumma, Vicario, Meret

Defenders: Cambaiasso/ Di Lorenzo. Bastoni. Scalvani/Calafiori Udogie/Di Marco

Midfield: Tonali, Barella and any of locatelli, Fratessi, Rovella, Zaniolo etc

Wingers: Maldini, Orsolina, Raspadori,

Strikers: Retegui with kean as back up.


All the wingers you mentioned are mediocre. Retegui at 26 has had only 1 good season in Europe and was going on loan for years until he turned 24. The jury is still out on him. Keane is 25 and this season was his first season scoring more than 12 league goals.

Outside the GK, Tonali, and maybe Barella and Bastoni na mediocre full the squad.

The 2002 squad (that didn't even go far) for instance had Cannavaro, Nesta, Pirlo, De Piero, Totti, Vieri, Buffon, Inzaghi, Albertini, Zambrotta.

Italy is not producing talented players at the rate and of the quality of some of the other nations. That is the truth.

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