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daveP:


The actual truth is lessons are not being learnt. The top realization started in last season ucl vs Bayern. That was the game that everyone last agreed help was needed. Since that ouster, fanbase split became more defined. Then the summer came and then the January window, and it was vivid that someone was unserious.


How that suddenly made critics the haters of the club, i dunno. But in that same timeframe, rivals are putting in their work as well and that is the double blow. That's what's making all of this seem to critics that they need to be louder. But as usual, here we are. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

You don't get some of us point, we understand the need for striker but it didn't happen. And talking about bayern game last year, don't tell me you didn't notice the improvement in that area this ucl campaign?. We need a striker and with how they're handling both Sesko and Gyokeres matter, I know one of them will surely play for us. But then we need recruitment in other areas too. Criticism is essential, and highly welcomed but you check am, all those people wey dey question the club and the direction it's headed which of them dey make caricature of the matter?. Baba, personally I know sense dey for the whole talk, but na how it's been presented that makes the difference. Last last all of us want bragging rights as fans and want to see real success.

germaphobe:

You don't get some of us point, we understand the need for striker but it didn't happen. And talking about bayern game last year, don't tell me you didn't notice the improvement in that area this ucl campaign?. We need a striker and with how they're handling both Sesko and Gyokeres matter, I know one of them will surely play for us. But then we need recruitment in other areas too. Criticism is essential, and highly welcomed but you check am, all those people wey dey question the club and the direction it's headed which of them dey make caricature of the matter?. Baba, personally I know sense dey for the whole talk, but na how it's been presented that makes the difference. Last last all of us want bragging rights as fans and want to see real success.

Fact is there are many that have ed this club longer than any of us here. Some saw Graham and Wenger, Days of Adams and co. If they speak up and criticize, that's not caricature. That's love!! It will come in different degrees. Those repping should not pretend these guys that turn up week in week out with maximum loyalty don't have feelings. Naaah

If they scream today and something happens, na still dem go scream louder when trophies enter. Fact.

How many are not seeing that as hate for the club is hilarious to me. Sincerely. 2004

21years!!!
Well no be history recount time sha. But everyone dey see moves and trusted but now they are seeing patterns repeating. Query is justified!!

As for if improvements happened from that Bayern game....nope!
The bench remained unreliable still. Yes we made semis but symptoms still persist. Game tweaking problem still persisted.

Enrique and Inzaghi are two great examples of managers that tweaked things to get results this campaign. Woh. Talk plenty abeg.

Im sha happy for the emergence of Kiwior. That's the non Starter difference from last campaign that Bayern ended.

Ironically, Symptoms still persist

Fabregas speaks


https://x.com/faraondefutbol/status/1929843914413834248?t=DhFljllawEGIaTHKHQmLCA&s=19

daveP:



Fact is there are many that have ed this club longer than any of us here. Some saw Graham and Wenger, Days of Adams and co. If they speak up and criticize, that's not caricature. That's love!! It will come in different degrees. Those repping should not pretend these guys that turn up week in week out with maximum loyalty don't have feelings. Naaah

If they scream today and something happens, na still dem go scream louder when trophies enter. Fact.

How many are not seeing that as hate for the club is hilarious to me. Sincerely. 2004

21years!!!
Well no be history recount time sha. But everyone dey see moves and trusted but now they are seeing patterns repeating. Query is justified!!

As for if improvements happened from that Bayern game....nope!
The bench remained unreliable still. Yes we made semis but symptoms still persist. Game tweaking problem still persisted.

Enrique and Inzaghi are two great examples of managers that tweaked things to get results this campaign. Woh. Talk plenty abeg.

Im sha happy for the emergence of Kiwior. That's the non Starter difference from last campaign that Bayern ended.

I get your point, but I know no one who saw prime wingers up till today will just make fun of the club like that. It's OK to state the obvious and push your opinion without trying to make the club a laughing stock in the eyes of rivals, that's even worse than anything else. Giving rivals the right and points to make gest of the club. But what do I know?..
Regarding that bayern game last season, a lot was corrected from it. Even against psg, if only our attackers were clinical it would have been a different game altogether.

germaphobe:

I get your point, but I know no one who saw prime wingers up till today will just make fun of the club like that. It's OK to state the obvious and push your opinion without trying to make the club a laughing stock in the eyes of rivals, that's even worse than anything else. Giving rivals the right and points to make gest of the club. But what do I know?..
Regarding that bayern game last season, a lot was corrected from it. Even against psg, if only our attackers were clinical it would have been a different game altogether.

Always on point.....nothing to add

germaphobe:

I get your point, but I know no one who saw prime wingers up till today will just make fun of the club like that. It's OK to state the obvious and push your opinion without trying to make the club a laughing stock in the eyes of rivals, that's even worse than anything else. Giving rivals the right and points to make gest of the club. But what do I know?..
Regarding that bayern game last season, a lot was corrected from it. Even against psg, if only our attackers were clinical it would have been a different game altogether.

Lol 😂 😂 We have been a laughing stock in the eyes of rivals for a very long time. What do you think Netflix fc mean? Bottler fc? 2nd place fc? or we didn’t lose against top 6 fc? Next season fc? How about the elephant on top of the tree trolling? etc. In fact, the yoruba version for these trolling are worst.

Arteta gave a us glimpse of hope, but sadly, it’s gradually turning out to becoming the latter years of Wenger after the champions league finals. That’s why many of us are asking questions so we can get results, but we’ve been tagged as fake fans.

You don’t get respect by allowing failure to fester then give excuses to defend it every time. You gain respect by getting results. We can’t keep resting on achievements like “not losing to top 6 teams in the league for 2 season or best defensive record.” We should be building on them towards winning something tangible, and ask questions when we see lapses.

If our manager isn’t improving in areas we’ve identified for 3 seasons to be the cause of our downfall in latter half of the season, I see no reason why the fans shouldn’t question him. But you guys seem to want to build cult following around him.

germaphobe:

I get your point, but I know no one who saw prime wingers up till today will just make fun of the club like that. It's OK to state the obvious and push your opinion without trying to make the club a laughing stock in the eyes of rivals, that's even worse than anything else. Giving rivals the right and points to make gest of the club. But what do I know?..
Regarding that bayern game last season, a lot was corrected from it. Even against psg, if only our attackers were clinical it would have been a different game altogether.

Imagine calling your fellow fans delulu fans just because they stated an obvious fact but you couldn't comprehend due to low IQ or whatever. E get why I say make we turn this place to amusement park... All these amusing agenda flying up and down na comic relief to me.

You dey blame coach for not g players. The same coach that was practically begging (diplomatic) for gs in different interviews. You criticized him for not tweaking things... With which team? A team whose a whole first eleven are almost unavailable due to injury.


I'm sat mehn...

Delulu still they cry
This werey was telling us to go to UK and protest if we no like arteta like say na him daddy but us data

Now he is crying around because he has nothing to brag about, excuses Dan finish

Na una they gaslight na una they cry
Nobody send anybody for here, do your thing and leave others to theirs
I am sure that's not so hard

toluxe0075:

Lol 😂 😂 We have been a laughing stock in the eyes of rivals for a very long time. What do you think Netflix fc mean? Bottler fc? 2nd place fc? or we didn’t lose against top 6 fc? Next season fc? How about the elephant on top of the tree trolling? etc. In fact, the yoruba version for these trolling are worst.

Arteta gave a us glimpse of hope, but sadly, it’s gradually turning out to becoming the latter years of Wenger after the champions league finals. That’s why many of us are asking questions so we can get results, but we’ve been tagged as fake fans.

You don’t get respect by allowing failure to fester then give excuses to defend it every time. You gain respect by getting results. We can’t keep resting on achievements like “not losing to top 6 teams in the league for 2 season or best defensive record.” We should be building on them towards winning something tangible, and ask questions when we see lapses.

If our manager isn’t improving in areas we’ve identified for 3 seasons to be the cause of our downfall in latter half of the season, I see no reason why the fans shouldn’t question him. But you guys seem to want to build cult following around him.

Bro, the fact that rivals call you names doesn't mean you should give them more reasons to call you more names. After all that's what fanbase rivalry is all about. Na we bottle Liverpool?, last last they're winning titles now. And I no call anybody Fake fan, everybody get their own way of handling disappointment, but na to dey think say u dey rub am on follow fans face all because your opinion differs from theirs, that's the problem. BTW, all this our long talk aside, between Gyokeres and Sesko who do you think would fit into our system better and who's the best option?.

sod09:
Na una they gaslight na una they cry
Nobody send anybody for here, do your thing and leave others to theirs
I am sure that's not so hard

abi, it goes both ways shaa.

mostob:
Imagine calling your fellow fans delulu fans just because they stated an obvious fact but you couldn't comprehend due to low IQ or whatever. E get why I say make we turn this place to amusement park... All these amusing agenda flying up and down na comic relief to me.

You dey blame coach for not g players. The same coach that was practically begging (diplomatic) for gs in different interviews. You criticized him for not tweaking things... With which team? A team whose a whole first eleven are almost unavailable due to injury.


I'm sat mehn...

e weak me as I talk my mind, baba change am say na agenda. Wo!!. Arteta dey try, but he gats try better and his stubbornness dey too much sometimes too. We pray for better days shaa.

Anybody who feels Arteta shouldn’t be criticized after everything is just deceiving himself cause even Guardiola is criticized.

The funny thing is if the team are playing well, we all praise Arteta but after going trophyless after the season, then you feel he shouldn’t be criticized? He who wants to be praised for good works should also accept criticism when it arises so as to do better

If you think after playing well and going trophy-less isn’t enough to be considered a laughing stock, then I don’t know what to tell you, Only the Victors(those who won trophies) are ed.

Laslas, everybody go Dey alright

Shegzdave:
Anybody who feels Arteta shouldn’t be criticized after everything is just deceiving himself cause even Guardiola is criticized.

The funny thing is if the team are playing well, we all praise Arteta but after going trophyless after the season, then you feel he shouldn’t be criticized? He who wants to be praised for good works should also accept criticism when it arises so as to do better

If you think after playing well and going trophy-less isn’t enough to be considered a laughing stock, then I don’t know what to tell you, Only the Victors(those who won trophies) are ed.

Laslas, everybody go Dey alright

na de wahala be dis, laughing stock by by fans, from fans. And who's saying he's above criticism, abi u no wan understand all my posts for here baba?, u no dey see wetin I dey type. Those legends and celebrities wey their names are being mentioned as critics just state the obvious and leave it there, none dey carry bad mouth .
Last last we go dey alright.

daveP:
Ironically, Symptoms still persist

Fabregas speaks


https://x.com/faraondefutbol/status/1929843914413834248?t=DhFljllawEGIaTHKHQmLCA&s=19

Awa Future Manager... He seems to have the foresight

We got ourselves speech renovator and defender of the defenseless

iamoyindamola:
We got ourselves speech renovator and defender of the defenseless

u no fit take am?.

germaphobe:

I get your point, but I know no one who saw prime wingers up till today will just make fun of the club like that. It's OK to state the obvious and push your opinion without trying to make the club a laughing stock in the eyes of rivals, that's even worse than anything else. Giving rivals the right and points to make gest of the club. But what do I know?..
Regarding that bayern game last season, a lot was corrected from it. Even against psg, if only our attackers were clinical it would have been a different game altogether.

Tgey aren't making fun. They're seeing the decline in quality over the years. In fact they don't even use Henry again. Just Sanchez and Auba is enough to use and for just these two, big decline.

Is recruitment changing that? Big NO
Is tactics changing any of that? Big NO
Is there desperate plans to make a difference? Acquisition of Sterling alone gives an answer

If we queue up better ex-players and legends to soro soke alone, you will hear there's a problem that is still ongoing-the board gets the stick for that.

But if it comes to the current manager, issues yapa.

He had no visible counter plan to PSG. Over 180mins. 1st leg home defeat should be enough to restore factory settings, but he came to play same crap approach and then we came alive in 20mins after coffin don nail. Lol.


To be absolutely sincere, i miss the era of managers that had in game counter plans, especially in UCL campaign.
Inter lost woefully cos they had no counter plan. 5-0 is historically woeful. If we were there, it won't be like that truly. But we need to do what it takes

We can't keep relying on 1st team guys that will dry out and go to Luth again. This season is lesson enough.

daveP:


Tgey aren't making fun. They're seeing the decline in quality over the years. In fact they don't even use Henry again. Just Sanchez and Auba is enough to use and for just these two, big decline.

Is recruitment changing that? Big NO
Is tactics changing any of that? Big NO
Is there desperate plans to make a difference? Acquisition of Sterling alone gives an answer

If we queue up better ex-players and legends to soro soke alone, you will hear there's a problem that is still ongoing-the board gets the stick for that.

But if it comes to the current manager, issues yapa.

He had no visible counter plan to PSG. Over 180mins. 1st leg home defeat should be enough to restore factory settings, but he came to play same crap approach and then we came alive in 20mins after coffin don nail. Lol.


To be absolutely sincere, i miss the era of managers that had in game counter plans, especially in UCL campaign.
Inter lost woefully cos they had no counter plan. 5-0 is historically woeful. If we were there, it won't be like that truly. But we need to do what it takes

We can't keep relying on 1st team guys that will dry out and go to Luth again. This season is lesson enough.

If you want to end arteta
Just play your team to low block play him 20 times he won't have a single answer to the tactics

daveP:


Tgey aren't making fun. They're seeing the decline in quality over the years. In fact they don't even use Henry again. Just Sanchez and Auba is enough to use and for just these two, big decline.

Is recruitment changing that? Big NO
Is tactics changing any of that? Big NO
Is there desperate plans to make a difference? Acquisition of Sterling alone gives an answer

If we queue up better ex-players and legends to soro soke alone, you will hear there's a problem that is still ongoing-the board gets the stick for that.

But if it comes to the current manager, issues yapa.

He had no visible counter plan to PSG. Over 180mins. 1st leg home defeat should be enough to restore factory settings, but he came to play same crap approach and then we came alive in 20mins after coffin don nail. Lol.


To be absolutely sincere, i miss the era of managers that had in game counter plans, especially in UCL campaign.
Inter lost woefully cos they had no counter plan. 5-0 is historically woeful. If we were there, it won't be like that truly. But we need to do what it takes

We can't keep relying on 1st team guys that will dry out and go to Luth again. This season is lesson enough.

I can't deny the fact that Arteta sometimes doesn't get it right, and then there's this his stubbornness of sticking to what works for him even when a change might change events. And you can't also deny the fact that there are games when his in-game management pays off. That psg first leg, I believe that if Partey had started that match the result would have been different, and the second leg is the directly related to the result of the first leg. We had better scoring opportunities over 180minutes especially the second leg. If our attackers were pro-active do you think we would be having this conversation?.

We signed Marquinhos for £3 and sold for £2.5 with add ons. E be like player sales don the improve from what it used to be. For person wey no even see shirt na better biz shaa.

List of outgoing. 20

daveP:
List of outgoing. 20

Why are you adding sterling and neto
Are we the owner?

Omo. I weeep

Good enough for competing for top 4 but never ever good to snatch a title with the quality of rivals/opponents

None of them here can best Mane or Salah in any way

germaphobe:
na de wahala be dis, laughing stock by by fans, from fans. And who's saying he's above criticism, abi u no wan understand all my posts for here baba?, u no dey see wetin I dey type. Those legends and celebrities wey their names are being mentioned as critics just state the obvious and leave it there, none dey carry bad mouth .
Last last we go dey alright.

How did anybody bad mouth him, they’re only questioning his competence over the years going trophyless… there’s no attack on his personality, just the job he was appointed to do, how is that bad mouthing?

You expect the legends to bad mouth publicly?

At the end of the day, we love the club and it’s the club first before the manager…

Like I said, we go Dey alright laslas

Few days ago dominique was complaining about delays and lack of excitement that is always associated with our club these days, she was told to wait for new season to start. Now other teams are already getting their targets to put pen to papers, but for my my club it is: "Arsenal are interested in...", "Arsenal is tracking...", "Arsenal is in agreement with...", "Arsenal is following...", " Arsenal is favorite to sign...", Nothing concrete! At the end, they sign another useless Chelsea or City reject or one little known player from somewhere and the history keep repeating itself.

I don't know who to blame for this, if na Arteta wey never know who he wants or if it is the club that is taking it's time, waiting for the price of their targets to come down or na our usual nonchalant attitude to things. After now, we will be told that Chelsea and others have hijacked our interests.

Even for Zubimendi that many saw as a concluded deal; only to wake up and read that he posted this on his Instagram story after reports that he was undergoing a medical at Arsenal:

“It’s an example of what surrounds football. Many times I wake up in the morning & read things that I didn’t know I had done. That was a clear example.”

“It’s true that I don’t take it very seriously, but anyway, I ed those photos to emphasise a little that it wasn’t exactly the reality that was happening.”

I thought Arsenal should be more in a hurry and hungrier than other teams to end all these 'almost but not' stories associated with us... Well I know some of you will tell me it is still early in day, but we know that many times, the happening in the morning often decides what will happen at the end of the day.

Make I pause following Fabrizio Romano, relax my mind and stop ranting jare. Someone should update me at the start of the new season.

MSGAMBLE9:
Awa Future Manager... He seems to have the foresight

I watched Como a few times last season, especially their fixtures again Milan and I was quite impressed.

However, Inter are a totally different prospect. I'd like to see how he manages such jump, especially in his first season.

ObaIgwe1:
Few days ago dominique was complaining about delays and lack of excitement that is always associated with our club these days, she was told to wait for new season to start. Now other teams are already getting their targets to put pen to papers, but for my my club it is: "Arsenal are interested in...", "Arsenal is tracking...", "Arsenal is in agreement with...", "Arsenal is following...", " Arsenal is favorite to sign...", Nothing concrete! At the end, they sign another useless Chelsea or City reject or one little known player from somewhere and the history keep repeating itself.

I don't know who to blame for this, if na Arteta wey never know who he wants or if it is the club that is taking it's time, waiting for the price of their targets to come down or na our usual nonchalant attitude to things. After now, we will be told that Chelsea and others have hijacked our interests.

Even for Zubimendi that many saw as a concluded deal; only to wake up and read that he posted this on his Instagram story after reports that he was undergoing a medical at Arsenal:

“It’s an example of what surrounds football. Many times I wake up in the morning & read things that I didn’t know I had done. That was a clear example.”

“It’s true that I don’t take it very seriously, but anyway, I ed those photos to emphasise a little that it wasn’t exactly the reality that was happening.”

I thought Arsenal should be more in a hurry and hungrier than other teams to end all these 'almost but not' stories associated with us... Well I know some of you will tell me it is still early in day, but we know that many times, the happening in the morning often decides what will happen at the end of the day.

Make I pause following Fabrizio Romano, relax my mind and stop ranting jare. Someone should update me at the start of the new season.

If this is a serious club they will cancel whatever agreement they have with zubimedi
Obviously he is waiting out for a bigger club and knowing arteta will find excuse if we don’t get him
Lfc have signed players but arsenal will wait it out sha

Roland17:


I watched Como a few times last season, especially their fixtures again Milan and I was quite impressed.

However, Inter are a totally different prospect. I'd like to see how he manages such jump, especially in his first season.

Have they sacked inzaghi

iamoyindamola:

Have they sacked inzaghi

Yup, officially yesterday. He is heading to Saudi.

Roland17:


Yup, officially yesterday. He is heading to Saudi.

Omo and arteta is still our manager
Chai

iamoyindamola:

Omo and arteta is still our manager
Chai

I intentionally avoided bringing it up here.

As for Zubi, there are interests from Real Madrid and to your point, I think he is waiting to see what that is. I strongly believe Arsenal will get him.