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Offpoint1: 11:50am On Jun 02
Penguin2:

Fantastic submission!

But the only difference here is that while in my analogy, the parents of the child is permanent, in practice, as it relates to Nigeria, the parent (president) is not permanent.

So, while we may currently have a parent who, instead of using the money saved from the removal of the oxygen pipe from our sibling in the hospital for the good of the family chooses rather to use the money to take concubines, buy cars and engage in several other profligacies, tomorrow we may get a parent who is not like the current one and he will use the money judiciously for what it should be used for.

And then the only gratitude we will owe our former parent was having the courage to see through the removal of oxygen pipe from a sibling who had rendered all of redundant.
😂 🤣 Next parent that will still be installed by the previous parent? 😂 🤣
Obaaderemi2: 12:01pm On Jun 02
Afonja007:
why Una like tribalism?
You are the one who likes tribalism. You hate the president and wish the country bad because he's not from your tribe. Na WA o
bluecircle470: 12:12pm On Jun 02
surgical:
History will record for him ,he had opportunity to make a difference but wasted it,History will record him as a terrible president who took his country several steps backwards when he had opportunity to do better
As for you Mr suffering and smiling, the crumbs you are getting can never be enough to sustain you

Perfect healing
ALTERNATEID: 12:20pm On Jun 02
ivandragon:
And why must the masses bear the brunt of the reforms?

While does the political class continue to bask in excesses?

The political class is less than 1% of the total population of the country. The masses are the majority and any reforms that will have everlasting effects will affect the masses. However, the political class should lead by example.
mozes01(m): 12:41pm On Jun 02
surgical:
That decision is a reckless decision which is very callous and insensitive
Those allegations about not going to school might be true after all,
He just make decisions without proper thinking or research
He thinks power is by showing you are in charge and can do anything, I am the boss kind of thinking
Now see the results

Allegations Allegations lamentations after lamentations you guys don't get tired? The same you people believed Buhari was dead n cloned. Haa it's well.
Harnny(m): 12:53pm On Jun 02
Ofunaofu:


Were you among those who protested against the subsidy removal by the Goodluck Jonathan istration in 2012?
unfortunately, yes. In my defence, I did not know any better then. I was at Ojota not because I really understood what was going on but because it was just fun to be there. The point still remains that, Nigerians were not ready for it then, not ready for it now, and would never be ready for it. Yet, it needed to be done. This is not to say it is a Tinubu achievement. All 3 guys were going to do so.

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KaptainAfrika: 12:55pm On Jun 02
It is the docility of Nigerians that allows ers of T-Pain to still speak.
patrickcollins: 1:14pm On Jun 02
Tochitee:
But truth be told, ,the civilised understand that Nigeria is on the right path with tinubu policy at then end of his tenure by 2031,we should consider a young modern northerner!
Like Yahaya Bello of Kogi state he is young and has got experience coming from Kogi's government house
surgical: 1:49pm On Jun 02
mozes01:


Allegations Allegations lamentations after lamentations you guys don't get tired? The same you people believed Buhari was dead n cloned. Haa it's well.
please go to school, you will need it
So you can easily comprehend what goes on around you,not just being a took in politicians hand,so that one day you will not run errands you don't understand and may affect you badly,its good to be well informed
Penguin2: 2:18pm On Jun 02
chidiokay:


FUEL SUBSIDY: “Fuel Subsidy is gone” was part of the last phrases he uttered on his Inauguration Day and since that day till date, Nigeria has not remained the same. Fuel price ballooned to the roof and with it the cost of transport and essentials rose astronomically almost beyond the reach of an average Nigerian. But was he wrong? No.



Oga i totally disagree, base on trajectory we have seen Removal of Fuel subsidy is wrong. we were only decieved into thinking " fuel subsidy" is the liability holding us back when in actual sense developed progressive nations adhere to this forms of subsidy

our last disbursed fuel subsidy in 2023 was N3.6trillion, if we can sum up total amount looted and wasted on opulence by govt i am sure it will be over, besides subsidy can be rationed on % basis

In a country where fuel useage cut across on production line and businesses the essence of "fuel sibsidy" can not be undermined relative to ease of business operations.

FIY, fuel subsidy is the only benefit that touches every Nigeria, and from a holistic view the gains outweigh the negativity attached if transparently implemented

Since we have stopped Fuel subsidy what have changed and what have we gained infrastructure wise, as you and i aware " borrowing" still on the rise.

2yrs of no subsidy where are the gains, our Budget deficit nko undecided does it make any sense
There was no deception.

Fuel subsidy had become unsustainable and truly had to go.

And about the gains, you need to understand that this is an action that will yield long term effect though it’s painful in the interim. So, 2 years is not enough to ask for the gains, infrastructurally.

But even then, there has been some immediate gains as states now have more money at their disposal to achieve more. We can question how many of them are using the funds judiciously but you need to understand that the current crop of kleptomaniacs will not remain in power forever.

Some day, the people that will use the money well will come.
Penguin2: 2:21pm On Jun 02
JuanDeDios:

Finally, someone that gets it.

I don't agree on subsidy removal though. It was the theft that made it balloon. They should have tackled that. Or wait a bit for local refining to come on stream. Or take measures to protect the most vulnerable. And much of the gains made from it have been seriously undermined by inflation.
If we start looking for excuse, we will find one thousand and more excuses as to why subsidy should have been retained for a little while more or removed in phases, but e good as go like this make we suffer the suffer once and for all and never go through this route forever.
Penguin2: 2:23pm On Jun 02
Ttalk:


Today I see one Obidient who is objective and didn't allow ethnic interest to cloud his memory.

Some of us who Tinubu still criticize some of his actions but we do so with sincerity of heart and not because our candidate lost an election.

Personally I expect Tinubu istration to have put a mechanism in place to monitor the spending of increased revenue to the state. Many of these governors simply pay salaries and the use the balance to buy dollar, that's the reason why naira has not appreciated despite the fact that Nigeria no longer buy imported fuel with scarce dollar.

The second area am not pleased with the istration is the continual attempt to tolerate the inefficiency of the disco, I expect the government to have revoked license of many of the discos who have performed abysmally to serve as a deterrent to other, Nigerians should not be made to suffer inefficiency of a private company.

In general, this is a government that have embarked on a necessary reform in Nigeria since I was born
I have never failed to be objective. You have just always been too primordial to see it.

The reason you are acknowledging my objectivity today is because I spoke in favour of someone you . When I call out his pitfalls tomorrow now, you will accuse me of suffering from election loss.

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Omowale2023(m): 2:25pm On Jun 02
Obaaderemi2:
By the time you handle a leadership position you will understand better. No politician likes you. But it's better to have someone who would come with helpful policies than a liar who would continue to ruin the economy but still steal
I have held leadership positions from NYSC down to my Current role as Head Of Class(HOC) for medical biochemistry LASUCOM. Leadership is service, what's happening in Nigeria is rulership not leadership. They claim subsides must be removed yet they refuse to reduce cost of governance. 150 million to buy a car, 21 billion to renovate a VP house, not to build ooo, etc. So you remove subsides to grow the economy and you didn't reduce cost of governance to grow the same economy you claim to help. I vividly in 2009, Obama reduced cost of governance to save USA from economic recession. Yet Nigeria who doesn't have money to spare can't do the same, like USA did in 2009. I will keep saying it "NIGERIA is not a country, is a contraption. Because no country who faught for its independence will continue in this way of mediocrity. I repeat no country"
ivandragon: 2:35pm On Jun 02
ALTERNATEID:


The political class is less than 1% of the total population of the country. The masses are the majority and any reforms that will have everlasting effects will affect the masses. However, the political class should lead by example.

And are they doing that?
ivandragon: 2:37pm On Jun 02
Barzinime:
You need to re-educated yourself and remove the hatred inside of you before you can understand exactly what is happening.
Even if BAT turns Nigeria into heaven, you still won’t see any good thing about him.

What hatred is there to be removed?

When bat was condemning the pdp, was it out of hatred?

That is how you people blindly defended buhari for 8 years, and now you have started again with blind .

You are the real enemy of the country.

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Omowale2023(m): 2:43pm On Jun 02
[quote author=Penguin2 post=135585526][/quote]
Nigerians never learn.
There's something we call KPIs'(Key Performance Index). What are the KPIS' we as Nigerians should look out for?
- FUEL
- DOLLAR
- FOOD
- SECURITY
- INFLATION

When Tinubu came he increased everything.
From 750 to 1500/dollar. From 180 to 500 to 900/liter of fuel. Yet you claim he is doing better? How?
You came and made matter worse and you claim he is the necessary evil? Illiteracy is truly and thoroughly killing this country. This the reason why Nigeria will never develop. Continue deceiving yourselves that Tinubu is the best president to take Nigeria forward.

A 2005 car is 20 years old as of this minute I write this comment, In 2015, the car was 1.6 million. Ten years later its 9.6 million as of last week Friday. Does that make sense to you? will you use 10 million naira to buy a car that's 20 years old?
Nigeria money is loosing or it has Lost its value completely?
Or do you Disagree?
ivandragon: 2:45pm On Jun 02
Lithiumite:


Tell me one tenure the masses haven't been suffering..... "The poor will always be amongst you" even the bible says so......tell me one sector in Nigeria that has gone moribund since tinubu came in it doing worse than right now than before......it's easy to point fingers subject to your political views but the fact remains fact......the rot in the Nigerian economy cannot be changed in just 2 years,u need several painstaking years of reforms.

For 8 years under buhari, you said this same story, so why do you now feel you somehow have sufficient knowledge to know Nigeria is headed in the right direction when for 8 years you ed its destruction?

You are just regurgitating a failed position.
JuanDeDios: 2:48pm On Jun 02
Penguin2:

If we start looking for excuse, we will find one thousand and more excuses as to why subsidy should have been retained for a little while more or removed in phases, but e good as go like this make we suffer the suffer once and for all and never go through this route forever.
Well, there's good suffering (when benefits accrue) and bad suffering (when no benefits accrue). I'm not against good suffering, but does what we're going through amount to it? All those businesses crumbling? All those people losing their jobs? All those planned investments cancelled? Well, I hope you're proved right in the end. For our sakes.
chidiokay: 3:34pm On Jun 02
Penguin2:

There was no deception.

Fuel subsidy had become unsustainable and truly had to go.

And about the gains, you need to understand that this is an action that will yield long term effect though it’s painful in the interim. So, 2 years is not enough to ask for the gains, infrastructurally.

But even then, there has been some immediate gains as states now have more money at their disposal to achieve more. We can question how many of them are using the funds judiciously but you need to understand that the current crop of kleptomaniacs will not remain in power forever.

Some day, the people that will use the money well will come.

You cant talk of yields without a trajectory, since removal of subsidy as our GDP scaled up, less pressure on the dollar and what ease of business operation ... so what will yield the so anticipated long term benefits

After removing subsidy on power your president spent billions to do solar .. is that not a scam

Power is a driven force of any economy, but what measures has this govt put in place to ensure ease of operation for business

If you want to stand on long-term benefits please show us the foreseeable trajectory

your friend no wash rice put for fire buh he keeps saying the jollof go soon ready
Penguin2: 4:15pm On Jun 02
chidiokay:


You cant talk of yields without a trajectory, since removal of subsidy as our GDP scaled up, less pressure on the dollar and what ease of business operation ... so what will yield the so anticipated long term benefits

After removing subsidy on power your president spent billions to do solar .. is that not a scam

Power is a driven force of any economy, but what measures has this govt put in place to ensure ease of operation for business

If you want to stand on long-term benefits please show us the foreseeable trajectory

your friend no wash rice put for fire buh he keeps saying the jollof go soon ready
You need to understand that I’m not defending Tinubu.

He has done a lot things wrong. I’m not even his er. I’m a Peter Obi man till forever.

I’m just speaking to the courage and act of removing the fuel subsidy. What he has done since the removal is totally out of the consideration of this piece. And we all know that they have not gone about redistributing the gains adequately. Instead, they have embarked on profligacies and wasteful spending.
Penguin2: 4:19pm On Jun 02
JuanDeDios:

Well, there's good suffering (when benefits accrue) and bad suffering (when no benefits accrue). I'm not against good suffering, but does what we're going through amount to it? All those businesses crumbling? All those people losing their jobs? All those planned investments cancelled? Well, I hope you're proved right in the end. For our sakes.
I know it for certain that the gains of fuel subsidy removal will come just like I know tomorrow is Tuesday.

Maybe it’s not Tinubu who will bring those gains but definitely, once we get a responsible and frugal president, we will all see and enjoy the gains.

What I’m praising Tinubu for here is having the courage to see through the removal. I doubt others could have done the same.
Penguin2: 4:30pm On Jun 02
Omowale2023:

Nigerians never learn.
There's something we call KPIs'(Key Performance Index). What are the KPIS' we as Nigerians should look out for?
- FUEL
- DOLLAR
- FOOD
- SECURITY
- INFLATION

When Tinubu came he increased everything.
From 750 to 1500/dollar. From 180 to 500 to 900/liter of fuel. Yet you claim he is doing better? How?
You came and made matter worse and you claim he is the necessary evil? Illiteracy is truly and thoroughly killing this country. This the reason why Nigeria will never develop. Continue deceiving yourselves that Tinubu is the best president to take Nigeria forward.

A 2005 car is 20 years old as of this minute I write this comment, In 2015, the car was 1.6 million. Ten years later its 9.6 million as of last week Friday. Does that make sense to you? will you use 10 million naira to buy a car that's 20 years old?
Nigeria money is loosing or it has Lost its value completely?
Or do you Disagree?
Understand that I’m not here to praise Tinubu’s istration or say he is doing well.

I’m only speaking to the courage and willpower he has shown to make tough but necessary decisions for the long term benefit of the entire country.

All these things you said now are the necessary first shocks and reaction of the economy to the changes. Overtime, all these things will start to stabilize never to be so shocked again by anything.

fuel was 1,200 at a time. But see what is happening now. Local supply and competition has brought the price way below 1k. Once more refineries come onboard and more competition, the price will go even further down.

These things are gradual. But any lasting gain and success always comes gradually.
chidiokay: 4:55pm On Jun 02
Penguin2:

You need to understand that I’m not defending Tinubu.

He has done a lot things wrong. I’m not even his er. I’m a Peter Obi man till forever.

I’m just speaking to the courage and act of removing the fuel subsidy. What he has done since the removal is totally out of the consideration of this piece. And we all know that they have not gone about redistributing the gains adequately. Instead, they have embarked on profligacies and wasteful spending.

Naa the highlighted i no wan dey hear " courage" ,"balls" "... what is courage without a contingency

A plane in the air is about to crash, Tinubu with balls orders the hostess to open the door n he jumped out no parachute no umbrella But thats is "Courage" abi common

china spends about $400bn to subsidy energy, you can see how their economy is thriven with masses productions nd affordable goods

You cant say the aftermaths of subsidy removal is immaterial, that is like throwing away the reality of Nigerians .. NO

Tinubu took away subsidy from the poor masses what has he taken from the polithiefians, have you seen our national budget, are they cutting cost on opulence or naa only poor Nigerians must sacrifice

The subsidy removal is a major setback on industrialization cant you see, instead of subsidy Tinubu should have implemented orasanye report, a cut cost measure is a cant go wrong option.
our leaders are just being deliberately anti people, they know what to do but keep deviating

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Dalohad: 5:04pm On Jun 02
Obaaderemi2:
Penguin2, you have not finished
Talk true, did you read the article? grin
Dalohad: 5:05pm On Jun 02
helinues:
Cherry picking like his principal

If those who matters are praising president Tinubu's for the reforms and policies, why should we take the opinions of those who might not even be relevant politically in their family seriously

Talk true, you did not read the article before making this post.

You lazy baje-baje.. grin
Obaaderemi2: 5:29pm On Jun 02
Dalohad:

Talk true, did you read the article? grin
Dalohad, see the op's answer to my post. He didn't finish it initially
Penguin2:

I have finished now
Dbegining: 8:17pm On Jun 02
Ttalk:


Today I see one Obidient who is objective and didn't allow ethnic interest to cloud his memory.

Some of us who Tinubu still criticize some of his actions but we do so with sincerity of heart and not because our candidate lost an election.

Personally I expect Tinubu istration to have put a mechanism in place to monitor the spending of increased revenue to the state. Many of these governors simply pay salaries and the use the balance to buy dollar, that's the reason why naira has not appreciated despite the fact that Nigeria no longer buy imported fuel with scarce dollar.

The second area am not pleased with the istration is the continual attempt to tolerate the inefficiency of the disco, I expect the government to have revoked license of many of the discos who have performed abysmally to serve as a deterrent to other, Nigerians should not be made to suffer inefficiency of a private company.

In general, this is a government that have embarked on a necessary reform in Nigeria since I was born

None of what Tinubu did were reforms. They're just ignorant and arrogant decisions.

There's still disparity exchange rate.

As for increased allocations, what we see is increased volume of money and not increase in the intrinsic value (purchasing power) of money. Salaries cost have gone up for the state governments, cost of contracts have quadrupled (if you work in the construction industry you'll know this) so, there's no increased money value coming to the state governors just increased paper numbers.

You ed failure and God will judge you for every life that has been lost or put in jopardy because of the decision of you and your likes.
Omowale2023(m): 8:42pm On Jun 02
Penguin2:

Understand that I’m not here to praise Tinubu’s istration or say he is doing well.

I’m only speaking to the courage and willpower he has shown to make tough but necessary decisions for the long term benefit of the entire country.

All these things you said now are the necessary first shocks and reaction of the economy to the changes. Overtime, all these things will start to stabilize never to be so shocked again by anything.

fuel was 1,200 at a time. But see what is happening now. Local supply and competition has brought the price way below 1k. Once more refineries come onboard and more competition, the price will go even further down.

These things are gradual. But any lasting gain and success always comes gradually.
I totally disagree. It's only in Nigeria that economics don't work. Law of diminishing returns don't work. Things go up never to come down again. I won't be surprised, we are importing fuel and its been sold for 180 naira. Now that we are refining it, is not meant to be cheaper, yet it won't to 980 and counting.
Obaaderemi2: 10:47pm On Jun 02
Omowale2023:

I have held leadership positions from NYSC down to my Current role as Head Of Class(HOC) for medical biochemistry LASUCOM. Leadership is service, what's happening in Nigeria is rulership not leadership. They claim subsides must be removed yet they refuse to reduce cost of governance. 150 million to buy a car, 21 billion to renovate a VP house, not to build ooo, etc. So you remove subsides to grow the economy and you didn't reduce cost of governance to grow the same economy you claim to help. I vividly in 2009, Obama reduced cost of governance to save USA from economic recession. Yet Nigeria who doesn't have money to spare can't do the same, like USA did in 2009. I will keep saying it "NIGERIA is not a country, is a contraption. Because no country who faught for its independence will continue in this way of mediocrity. I repeat no country"

You have not held public office where you are surrounded by thieves. If you happen to be a thief too like all of our politicians, then you will realize quickly that the inspiration to be clean and different is non existent. I digress

To the best of my knowledge, the VPs house was renovated with #5bn not #21bn. I don't know where you are getting that from. Do you know that each time a new VP occupies Number One Observatory Circle in America, the house gets renovated. Kamala Harris renovated it with over $4m.

Which Obama reduced cost of governance? The same one that expanded government spending abi another one? People like Newt Gingrich rebuked him for that.
Obama leaves behind a budget with higher
entitlement spending, lower discretionary
spending, and (temporarily) lower net
interest costs than originally projected. The
ballooning national debt leaves taxpayers
liable for exorbitant debt service costs
when interest rates return to normal
levels.

It was also Obama that ordered the latest fleet of Air force One. Not for himself but for the presidency. I'm not sure the planes arrived when he was still in office.

Nobody is saying our political class are not thieves but at least we have someone now doing something about our micro and macro economic performance.
mozes01(m): 10:26am On Jun 03
surgical:
please go to school, you will need it
So you can easily comprehend what goes on around you,not just being a took in politicians hand,so that one day you will not run errands you don't understand and may affect you badly,its good to be well informed

Still the same gibberish. You people will just think everyone is doing badly as u are. Sit ur behind down and go through the rubbish you posted, you'll realize it's out of touch with reality and full of accrued hatred, which I pray it doesn't kpai u. Make Tinubu matter no go give u hbp. Like I care sef.

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