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Eranetic(m): 2:32pm On May 19
The Most Powerful Combination Ever to Exist.

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Lighterx: 3:20pm On May 19
Eranetic:
The Most Powerful Combination Ever to Exist.
Pls I'm begging you explain
Eranetic(m): 5:12pm On May 21
Lighterx:

Pls I'm begging you explain

If you are a computer scientist, even with basic experience about how coding works

You can literally code anything without writing any code

Just give a 'detailed computer scientist explanation' and believe me ChatGPT will whip out the codes in second/minutes.

And also use ChatGPT for debugging.

Learning different coding is very difficult, and what should take you years of learning and experience or thousand of dollars to pay a professional,

ChatGPT will code it in minutes. Free.

If you understand how 'difficult, important and powerful' coding can be,

then you understand how powerful 'computer science + ChatGPT' can be used

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Lighterx: 5:20pm On May 21
Eranetic:


If you are a computer scientist, even with basic experience about how coding works

You can literally code anything without writing any code

Just give a 'detailed computer scientist explanation' and believe me ChatGPT will whip out the codes in second/minutes.

And also use ChatGPT for debugging.

Learning different coding is very difficult, and what should take you years of learning and experience or thousand of dollars to pay a professional,

ChatGPT will code it in minutes. Free.

If you understand how 'difficult, important and powerful' coding can be,

then you understand how powerful 'computer science + ChatGPT' can be used
At least give us example
Let's say you want to create a site like NAIRALAND
airsaylongcome: 11:01pm On May 21
Eranetic:


If you are a computer scientist, even with basic experience about how coding works

You can literally code anything without writing any code

Just give a 'detailed computer scientist explanation' and believe me ChatGPT will whip out the codes in second/minutes.

And also use ChatGPT for debugging.

Learning different coding is very difficult, and what should take you years of learning and experience or thousand of dollars to pay a professional,

ChatGPT will code it in minutes. Free.

If you understand how 'difficult, important and powerful' coding can be,

then you understand how powerful 'computer science + ChatGPT' can be used

Hehehehe....this one wants to get sacked within two hours of being hired. E say just give a "detailed computer scientists explanation".

Real life example below (not my story, just reposting)

Title: Lost job because of AI 😡

Just as the title says, I lost my job because of AI.

In my previous company we handled over 15k devices and I was instructed to carry out a delete operation across some of the 500 devices.

I quickly generated a PowerShell script on ChatGPT that did the change on a single device and it worked well.. or so I thought. I went ahead to run the script on the 499 devices and that's when hell broke loose.

Turns out it didn't delete properly so carrying out an upgrade install had devastating effects. Sad to say that we had a 10 hour downtime and company lost over $10,000.

My boss was super pissed due to three reasons;
• ⁠Carrying out change during business hours.
• ⁠Didn't do a proper UAT to ascertain the script worked correctly.
• ⁠No CR was raised to get higher ups approval.

Sad to say I was let go

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derico(m): 12:18am On May 22
airsaylongcome:


Hehehehe....this one wants to get sacked within two hours of being hired. E say just give a "detailed computer scientists explanation".

Real life example below (not my story, just reposting)

Title: Lost job because of AI 😡

Just as the title says, I lost my job because of AI.

In my previous company we handled over 15k devices and I was instructed to carry out a delete operation across some of the 500 devices.

I quickly generated a PowerShell script on ChatGPT that did the change on a single device and it worked well.. or so I thought. I went ahead to run the script on the 499 devices and that's when hell broke loose.

Turns out it didn't delete properly so carrying out an upgrade install had devastating effects. Sad to say that we had a 10 hour downtime and company lost over $10,000.

My boss was super pissed due to three reasons;
• ⁠Carrying out change during business hours.
• ⁠Didn't do a proper UAT to ascertain the script worked correctly.
• ⁠No CR was raised to get higher ups approval.

Sad to say I was let go


You wrote this, using AI

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Eranetic(m): 3:55am On May 22
Lighterx:

At least give us example
Let's say you want to create a site like NAIRALAND

That's cheap..

I've been trying to crack crypto trading for couple of years now,

And I've finally gotten my unique strategy

Like 1D higher timeframe indicators,

1h macd and 5min confirmation.. Bla bla

All I needed was to automate it. For optimal performance and Cuz I cant watch the chart all day.

And that will requires a whole research and new coding skill (pine script v6)

And in 2 days I've got a full working pine script v6 + steps to automate it to my broker.

What should take me months of learn, practicing, debugging, failure, optimization, typing, research and a whole lot more.

And believe me, as a computer scientist,

It's a cheat code to life
Eranetic(m): 4:11am On May 22
airsaylongcome:


Hehehehe....this one wants to get sacked within two hours of being hired. E say just give a "detailed computer scientists explanation".

Real life example below (not my story, just reposting)

Title: Lost job because of AI 😡

Just as the title says, I lost my job because of AI.

In my previous company we handled over 15k devices and I was instructed to carry out a delete operation across some of the 500 devices.

I quickly generated a PowerShell script on ChatGPT that did the change on a single device and it worked well.. or so I thought. I went ahead to run the script on the 499 devices and that's when hell broke loose.

Turns out it didn't delete properly so carrying out an upgrade install had devastating effects. Sad to say that we had a 10 hour downtime and company lost over $10,000.

My boss was super pissed due to three reasons;
• ⁠Carrying out change during business hours.
• ⁠Didn't do a proper UAT to ascertain the script worked correctly.
• ⁠No CR was raised to get higher ups approval.

Sad to say I was let go



That's human error, not ChatGPT.

I've used ChatGPT for coding trading strategy.

It's called AI for a reason

You said he ran the powershell script on 1 device and it worked. Or so he thought. True.

As simple as letting ChatGPT know that you're running/going to be running it on 500 devices is enough to avoid such an error.

It can take into , details you never even suspected. Like maybe voltage, watts, build id for different devices e.t.c when it know it's 500 devices

ChatGPT can easily understand cost at the expense of failure.

Try anything coding for trading & Strategy you'll know ChatGPT can be way ahead in of massive loss
Kaczynski: 4:15am On May 22
ai is litewrally cope





computer cannotr think and they will never



they will never be conscious
Eranetic(m): 4:30am On May 22
Kaczynski:
ai is litewrally cope





computer cannotr think and they will never



they will never be conscious


Bro. Don't make me laugh
airsaylongcome: 9:47am On May 22
Eranetic:



That's human error, not ChatGPT.

I've used ChatGPT for coding trading strategy.

It's called AI for a reason

You said he ran the powershell script on 1 device and it worked. Or so he thought. True.

As simple as letting ChatGPT know that you're running/going to be running it on 500 devices is enough to avoid such an error.

It can take into , details you never even suspected. Like maybe voltage, watts, build id for different devices e.t.c when it know it's 500 devices

ChatGPT can easily understand cost at the expense of failure.

Try anything coding for trading & Strategy you'll know ChatGPT can be way ahead in of massive loss

Hindsight is always 20/20.
Karleb(m): 9:51am On May 22
Eranetic:


If you are a computer scientist, even with basic experience about how coding works

You can literally code anything without writing any code

Just give a 'detailed computer scientist explanation' and believe me ChatGPT will whip out the codes in second/minutes.

And also use ChatGPT for debugging.

Learning different coding is very difficult, and what should take you years of learning and experience or thousand of dollars to pay a professional,

ChatGPT will code it in minutes. Free.

If you understand how 'difficult, important and powerful' coding can be,

then you understand how powerful 'computer science + ChatGPT' can be used

I want to ask the problem people have with writing code? sad undecided
Eranetic(m): 10:49am On May 22
airsaylongcome:


Hindsight is always 20/20.

🀔
Eranetic(m): 10:58am On May 22
Karleb:


I want to ask the problem people have with writing code? sad undecided

When you spend years learning a coding language.. And get hit with

Error at line 123:55 Syntax error at input

Or one of them nasty error

Or the code doesn't do what you want

Or the code works the first time, you make small adjustments, then it stops working... And probably never works again 😑

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Lighterx: 2:10pm On May 22
Eranetic:


That's cheap..

I've been trying to crack crypto trading for couple of years now,

And I've finally gotten my unique strategy

Like 1D higher timeframe indicators,

1h macd and 5min confirmation.. Bla bla

All I needed was to automate it. For optimal performance and Cuz I cant watch the chart all day.

And that will requires a whole research and new coding skill (pine script v6)

And in 2 days I've got a full working pine script v6 + steps to automate it to my broker.

What should take me months of learn, practicing, debugging, failure, optimization, typing, research and a whole lot more.

And believe me, as a computer scientist,

It's a cheat code to life
That means I can use chat gpt to create and build my own portfolio with just the basics of python and ai
Eranetic(m): 3:37pm On May 22
Lighterx:

That means I can use chat gpt to create and build my own portfolio with just the basics of python and ai

Yes... You don't really even need the basics of python

Just explaining to chatGPT what you want and it'll run the code

You may need the basic of python just to make things a little bit faster for you when explaining to chatGPT
airsaylongcome: 5:42pm On May 22
Eranetic:


Yes... You don't really even need the basics of python

Just explaining to chatGPT what you want and it'll run the code

You may need the basic of python just to make things a little bit faster for you when explaining to chatGPT

Guy please stop this half truth you are propagating. Someone build their portfolio with ChatGPT? What would they do when they go for an interview and are presented with a leetcode question? Present it to ChatGPT too? Common man. Common!

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BRATISLAVA: 8:07pm On May 22
airsaylongcome:


Guy please stop this half truth you are propagating. Someone build their portfolio with ChatGPT? What would they do when they go for an interview and are presented with a leetcode question? Present it to ChatGPT too? Common man. Common!

Lol! There's no harm in dreaming big.
Karleb(m): 8:25pm On May 22
airsaylongcome:


Guy please stop this half truth you are propagating. Someone build their portfolio with ChatGPT? What would they do when they go for an interview and are presented with a leetcode question? Present it to ChatGPT too? Common man. Common!

It's why I wonder why people who call themselves software developers find it hard to code, the major thing software developers do.

I use AI daily and sometimes, it can be really dumb. Sometimes it would give you half answer and no matter how you prompt it, it won't solve the problem unless you take your time to read and test the code.

I can understand if you don't know certain things, but depending on AI from A to Z is just a funny idea.

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airsaylongcome: 9:59pm On May 22
Karleb:


It's why I wonder why people who call themselves software developers find it hard to code, the major thing software developers do.

I use AI daily and sometimes, it can be really dumb. Sometimes it would give you half answer and no matter how you prompt it, it won't solve the problem unless you take your time to read and test the code.

I can understand if you don't know certain things, but depending on AI from A to Z is just a funny idea.

I'm afraid where programming and a lot of human activity is headed. I agree that AI is an enabler, a huge enabler actually and I'm all in for people using it. But for someone to say a potential developer can build their portfolio using AI only? Where is that developer headed? That's like saying someone can be a Doctor by watching YouTube videos. You HAVE to learn the fundamentals. AND BE GOOD AT IT. AI is supposed to aid your productivity, making you do a lot more in less time. Not do all the work for you. I know how many times ChatGPT, Grok and Gemini have written nonsense for me and I get so angry I literally insult them. Only to come an read someone (who's probably not a professional developer) say a rookie can build portfolio exclusively with ChatGPT. Haba! I'm sure you know how hard it was getting started in this field. The real strength is being able continue pushing through the learning resistance until you understand the concepts. My former boss had a saying: Learn the trade, you will understand the tricks of the trade later. These days, people just want to learn the tricks

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airsaylongcome: 10:04pm On May 22
BRATISLAVA:


Lol! There's no harm in dreaming big.

Brati! Been a minute. A really long minute. There's no harm in dreaming. But this one isn't dreaming abeg. This is pure hallucination and delulu. Build an entire portfolio with AI? For a young blood coming through? Nope! You put your back in, and grind through. AI will come much later...it's a tool, it's not supposed to do the entire work for you.

Not as if the AI sef is infallible. So I absolutely don't get that advice to build an entire portfolio with ChatGPT.

How have you been though?
airsaylongcome: 10:06pm On May 22
derico:


You wrote this, using AI

You saw where I said it wasn't my story and that I was just reposting right?

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airsaylongcome: 10:12pm On May 22
Eranetic:


🀔

It means its easy to say "he should have done this or he should have done that" after the fact.

Those 500 devices are exactly the same make and model, all imaged using the same Windows OS enterprise image. When you want to roll out software, or Change Management, do you test it on all devices? You run it a a sample that is representative of the larger set. In this case, one PC that was exactly similar to the other 499 was probably sufficient enough. As they would have been doing sys stuff on those PCs and for all intents and purposes would have been viewed as multiple instances of the same hardware.

My point is, a veteran Sys with years of experience relied on AI for a Powershell script (that they surely would have reviewed) that eventually failed and failed hard. Advising a rookie (who wouldn't even know the difference between what is right or what "looks right"wink to rely on AI to build their career is asking for problems. People need to learn the fundamentals and become competent at them, before using these new tools to make them more productive.

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MindHacker9009(m): 11:29pm On May 22
True someone with a Computer Science or Software Engineering degree can use the free version of ChatGPT to write all the code they need for a complete application, but you have to keep asking it to refine some of it till it writes it the way you want it. Saves time from all the long line of coding to allow time time to be used better for more important stuff.

Eranetic:


If you are a computer scientist, even with basic experience about how coding works

You can literally code anything without writing any code

Just give a 'detailed computer scientist explanation' and believe me ChatGPT will whip out the codes in second/minutes.

And also use ChatGPT for debugging.

Learning different coding is very difficult, and what should take you years of learning and experience or thousand of dollars to pay a professional,

ChatGPT will code it in minutes. Free.

If you understand how 'difficult, important and powerful' coding can be,

then you understand how powerful 'computer science + ChatGPT' can be used
Eranetic(m): 11:47pm On May 22
airsaylongcome:


Brati! Been a minute. A really long minute. There's no harm in dreaming. But this one isn't dreaming abeg. This is pure hallucination and delulu. Build an entire portfolio with AI? For a young blood coming through? Nope! You put your back in, and grind through. AI will come much later...it's a tool, it's not supposed to do the entire work for you.

Not as if the AI sef is infallible. So I absolutely don't get that advice to build an entire portfolio with ChatGPT.

How have you been though?

airsaylongcome:


It means its easy to say "he should have done this or he should have done that" after the fact.

Those 500 devices are exactly the same make and model, all imaged using the same Windows OS enterprise image. When you want to roll out software, or Change Management, do you test it on all devices? You run it a a sample that is representative of the larger set. In this case, one PC that was exactly similar to the other 499 was probably sufficient enough. As they would have been doing sys stuff on those PCs and for all intents and purposes would have been viewed as multiple instances of the same hardware.

My point is, a veteran Sys with years of experience relied on AI for a Powershell script (that they surely would have reviewed) that eventually failed and failed hard. Advising a rookie (who wouldn't even know the difference between what is right or what "looks right"wink to rely on AI to build their career is asking for problems. People need to learn the fundamentals and become competent at them, before using these new tools to make them more productive.

airsaylongcome:


I'm afraid where programming and a lot of human activity is headed. I agree that AI is an enabler, a huge enabler actually and I'm all in for people using it. But for someone to say a potential developer can build their portfolio using AI only? Where is that developer headed? That's like saying someone can be a Doctor by watching YouTube videos. You HAVE to learn the fundamentals. AND BE GOOD AT IT. AI is supposed to aid your productivity, making you do a lot more in less time. Not do all the work for you. I know how many times ChatGPT, Grok and Gemini have written nonsense for me and I get so angry I literally insult them. Only to come an read someone (who's probably not a professional developer) say a rookie can build portfolio exclusively with ChatGPT. Haba! I'm sure you know how hard it was getting started in this field. The real strength is being able continue pushing through the learning resistance until you understand the concepts. My former boss had a saying: Learn the trade, you will understand the tricks of the trade later. These days, people just want to learn the tricks

Karleb:


It's why I wonder why people who call themselves software developers find it hard to code, the major thing software developers do.

I use AI daily and sometimes, it can be really dumb. Sometimes it would give you half answer and no matter how you prompt it, it won't solve the problem unless you take your time to read and test the code.

I can understand if you don't know certain things, but depending on AI from A to Z is just a funny idea.

airsaylongcome:


Guy please stop this half truth you are propagating. Someone build their portfolio with ChatGPT? What would they do when they go for an interview and are presented with a leetcode question? Present it to ChatGPT too? Common man. Common!


That's why I said "computer science + ChatGPT"

If you're a computer scientist, it's like building a commercial Car like Toyota or Honda or mazda.

You know the basics you know the steps (maybe build the car frame then engine then seats e.t.c)

When you know the steps to what you want to build, like a car,

you don't need to start building the car by hand, part by part, When You can be 10× faster and efficient

That's where AI like ChatGPT comes in. You tell ChatGPT to build you a car using your defined, so so and so steps,

By that you save money, time, efficiency and unnecessary Hard work.

You don't just dive in and tell ChatGPT to build you a car. AI may not be there 'Yet'

So y'all saying stuff like this about, interview and leetcode, and being a doctor with YouTube videos, or AI being dumb, or hallucinations

You probably don't get what a Computer Scientist should be + ChatGPT

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Eranetic(m): 11:48pm On May 22
MindHacker9009:
True someone with a Computer Science or Software Engineering degree can use the free version of ChatGPT to write all the code they need for a complete application, but you have to keep asking it to refine some of it till it writes it the way you want it. Saves time from all the long line of coding to allow time time to be used better for more important stuff.


Exactly 🇳🇬

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MindHacker9009(m): 6:51am On May 23
Same like a doctor using a robot to do his work. The doctor knows what his is trying to achieve so the robot will make his work easier and more precise. But to a self-taught doctor using the same robot will end up causing trouble.
Same with programing with ChatGPT. A person with a computer sci or software engineering degree will know the right instructions to give ChatGPT and how to get it to refine the code till it gets it right. But someone without a computer sci or software engineering degree will be expecting ChatGPT to just give them what they want in one go.

Eranetic:

That's why I said "computer science + ChatGPT"

If you're a computer scientist, it's like building a commercial Car like Toyota or Honda or mazda.

You know the basics you know the steps (maybe build the car frame then engine then seats e.t.c)

When you know the steps to what you want to build, like a car,

you don't need to start building the car by hand, part by part, When You can be 10× faster and efficient

That's where AI like ChatGPT comes in. You tell ChatGPT to build you a car using your defined, so so and so steps,

By that you save money, time, efficiency and unnecessary Hard work.

You don't just dive in and tell ChatGPT to build you a car. AI may not be there 'Yet'

So y'all saying stuff like this about, interview and leetcode, and being a doctor with YouTube videos, or AI being dumb, or hallucinations

You probably don't get what a Computer Scientist should be + ChatGPT
MindHacker9009(m): 7:15am On May 23
airsaylongcome:


Guy please stop this half truth you are propagating. Someone build their portfolio with ChatGPT? What would they do when they go for an interview and are presented with a leetcode question? Present it to ChatGPT too? Common man. Common!

The truth is that those giving candidates leetcode test have no business in software development.

Bad candidates know they cannot code nor talk about past projects in a decent way, but it’s easier for them to cheat by cramming solutions for leetcode than to talk about software development.
BRATISLAVA: 1:20pm On May 23
airsaylongcome:


Brati! Been a minute. A really long minute. There's no harm in dreaming. But this one isn't dreaming abeg. This is pure hallucination and delulu. Build an entire portfolio with AI? For a young blood coming through? Nope! You put your back in, and grind through. AI will come much later...it's a tool, it's not supposed to do the entire work for you.

Not as if the AI sef is infallible. So I absolutely don't get that advice to build an entire portfolio with ChatGPT.

How have you been though?

Shall we call you the punisher, seeing as you want them to actually learn these things? grin grin grin

AI is probably the most abused and fantasized tool on the planet. How to create a portfolio that cannot be defended in real time is wild. I don't know if the idea of vibe coding has been misinterpreted or what people want to make of it, but this forum is full of juicy things to read. Hahaha.

People want to skip the basics. I'm surprised we aren't learning full courses in development from AI summaries. grin Learn how to code in 6 hours. And the thing is that there are other tools they can embrace if they don't want to code.

Maybe if they've learned and want to use it productively.

Ah, I've been here and there, around and about. How'd you do yourself? You're falling into your niche with every post. You schooling younguns is more entertaining. See this thread for proof.

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