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maik99(m): 1:37am On May 05
iamharkinwaley:
We Manchester United fans lack patience, Kloop at Liverpool did not start playing great footie at once, took him sometime to start playing good Footie, Amorin is just here for half season and some of us are calling for his head already considering the mid players he’s got at his disposal. Make we dey calm down abeg. If ETH haven’t gotten mid players we won’t be struggling like this. Give Amorim sometime to cook, at least this squad needs two transfer windows more for us to cook.

I understand your call for patience but what you said about Klopp is not really true
From the very first season, it was clear Klopp had a plan that would work

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afrodoc2: 2:31am On May 05
Amorim has not shown much evidence that he is the man. Most of the players are not great as our resident shareholder would make us believe BUT they are also not relegation escaper level.

The hope is that Dan Ashworth was not right to kick against Amorim's appointment ........ cos if he was right then that would potentially be 2 wrong decisions at a go.

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ChristineC: 6:08am On May 05
afrodoc2:
Amorim has not shown much evidence that he is the man. Most of the players are not great as our resident shareholder would make us believe BUT they are also not relegation escaper level.

The hope is that Dan Ashworth was not right to kick against Amorim's appointment ........ cos if he was right then that would potentially be 2 wrong decisions at a go.
the team finished the season before last on a GD of +15, Rashford was in mad form in front of goal, last season on a negative goal difference. by the end of Ten Hag's reign, the goal difference was still negative (-3) and 11 points from 9 games.
there's few evidence to suggest this is no relegation escaping group. you can't get points on board if you cannot score goals.
Ten Hag attempted to solve the goal scoring issues but didn't get in the right players, judging from hindsight. Amad could have helped a bit, he was ignored for whatever reasons.
the same scoring issues hasn't changed. I think the goalkeeping can still be managed for now.
needless to say, there needs to be a more realistic effort to address scoring and it can only be personnel.
if we end up g yet another inexperienced striker like Delap to lead the line, nothing will change.

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Leyqute(m): 6:14am On May 05
engrelvis:
I dnt understand . Must he conceede every game? listen he has been damn lucky in Europa . We v been playing mostly against 10 man team

Any game we’ve won in recent times have been on luck.
Leyqute(m): 6:17am On May 05
ChristineC:
the team finished the season before last on a GD of +15, Rashford was in mad form in front of goal, last season on a negative goal difference. by the end of Ten Hag's reign, the goal difference was still negative (-3) and 11 points from 9 games.
there's few evidence to suggest this is no relegation escaping group. you can't get points on board if you cannot score goals.
Ten Hag attempted to solve the goal scoring issues but didn't get in the right players, judging from hindsight. Amad could have helped a bit, he was ignored for whatever reasons.
the same scoring issues hasn't changed. I think the goalkeeping can still be managed for now.
needless to say, there needs to be a more realistic effort to address scoring and it can only be personnel.
if we end up g yet another inexperienced striker like Delap to lead the line, nothing will change.

Same with the attackers. Too much inexperience in the forward line. If we don’t address this, we won’t score enough goals and continue suffering.
Goosethetruth(m): 7:50am On May 05
No amount of Monday morning spin can masquerade the glaring cold facts of the dismal record of this manager.
The facts speak loudly on his incompetence and he has already started to make excuses for the expected abysmal performance next season.

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Jamiuokolaa: 7:53am On May 05
cheesy cheesy
TrebleChamp(m): 8:09am On May 05
You are crying that the senior players are shit or worse than Southampton players, oya let Amorim give the yoot playing time for the rest of the League game let's see who can become first team player going into next season. You are here again crying that the yoot are not good enough, can United buy players in April to replace the so labelled shitty senior players? Giving the yoot more playing time in this League games will help Amorim access them better going into the new season, rather than in pre-season where almost every player plays like Maradona. This doesn't stop him from buying good players in the summer..

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CapitalCee(m): 8:32am On May 05
engrelvis:
I dnt understand . Must he conceede every game? listen he has been damn lucky in Europa . We v been playing mostly against 10 man team

Wow, we played agaisnt Arsenal 11 vs 11 and we were the better team.

We played agaisnt Sociedad away 11-11 and we were the better team.
We played away to Lyon 11 vs 11 and was winning until Onana gave away a goal.

Agaisnt Bilbao who has the best defence in la liga we were 2-0 up before the red card. So how does that translate to winning due to 10 men.
I have been watching how many people's talk here about the team and the manager, all I can do is to just laugh.

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CapitalCee(m): 8:35am On May 05
Notice how Liverpool made 7 changes and lost comfortably agaisnt this rubbish Chelsea team. Thos was almost the same team that Slot fielded versus Plymouth and lost.
But some people want Amorim to use Fredricson, Amass, Bayindir, Chido Obi and dead legged Eriksen, Mount and Shaw and win Brentford away.

If I talk now they will say I am belittling other people just because they are making their points. But you sef check the points you are making, how does it make sense to you?

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Jamiuokolaa: 8:37am On May 05
CapitalCee:


Wow, we played agaisnt Arsenal 11 vs 11 and we were the better team.

We played agaisnt Sociedad away 11-11 and we were the better team.
We played away to Lyon 11 vs 11 and was winning until Onana gave away a goal.

Agaisnt Bilbao who has the best defence in la liga we were 2-0 up before the red card. So how does that translate to winning due to 10 men.
I have been watching how many people's talk here about the team and the manager, all I can do is to just laugh.

??

Is this correct?

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Bombblacks: 8:43am On May 05
CapitalCee:


Wow, we played agaisnt Arsenal 11 vs 11 and we were the better team.

We played agaisnt Sociedad away 11-11 and we were the better team.

We played away to Lyon 11 vs 11 and was winning until Onana gave away a goal.

Agaisnt Bilbao who has the best defence in la liga we were 2-0 up before the red card. So how does that translate to winning due to 10 men.
I have been watching how many people's talk here about the team and the manager, all I can do is to just laugh.
In what universe did we play better than Arsenal and Real Sociedad away?

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Bombblacks: 8:46am On May 05
CapitalCee:
Notice how Liverpool made 7 changes and lost comfortably agaisnt this rubbish Chelsea team. Thos was almost the same team that Slot fielded versus Plymouth and lost.
But some people want Amorim to use Fredricson, Amass, Bayindir, Chido Obi and dead legged Eriksen, Mount and Shaw and win Brentford away.

If I talk now they will say I am belittling other people just because they are making their points. But you sef check the points you are making, how does it make sense to you?
Even if he had used his best 11 it's likely we would have still lost going by his record. We have one win in our last 7 league games and that was against a relegated Leicester.

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CapitalCee(m): 8:53am On May 05
Bombblacks:

Even if he had used his best 11 it's likely we would have still lost going by his record. We have one win in our last 7 league games and that was against a relegated Leicester.

Ok. You are right.
CapitalCee(m): 8:54am On May 05
Bombblacks:

In what universe did we play better than Arsenal and Real Sociedad away?

Try and watch match. Stop using livescore.
Bombblacks: 8:59am On May 05
CapitalCee:


Try and watch match. Stop using livescore.
I watched both games. Arsenal had more shots, possession, corners, touches in our box, higher xG, same number of big chances.

Real Sociedad had more possession, same amount of shots, 2 big chances to our zero, more corners, higher xG etc

So pray tell how we were the better team.

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Bombblacks: 9:05am On May 05
Jamiuokolaa:


Yes, Wolves have better players - Pereirra has been able to prove it to us since he ed in December.

This was the league table when Eth was sacked. Wolves were in the relegation zone with two points now they are 2 points above us. If Ipswich, Southampton and Leicester were not terrible, we would have actually been in a relegation tussle.

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Jamiuokolaa: 9:37am On May 05
Bombblacks:

This was the league table when Eth was sacked. Wolves were in the relegation zone with two points now they are 2 points above us. If Ipswich, Southampton and Leicester were not terrible, we would have actually been in a relegation tussle.

It's just so funny how some people here have decided to ignore the hard facts on ground but would rather tow the path of Emotions and Sentiments apparently because the new manager just has to be treated like a "new bride".

Amorim retaining his job beyond this season should be due to some "i beg sir" pleadings behind the scenes.

If it's by virtue of these terrible performances ehn...

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afrodoc2: 10:14am On May 05
ChristineC:
the team finished the season before last on a GD of +15, Rashford was in mad form in front of goal, last season on a negative goal difference. by the end of Ten Hag's reign, the goal difference was still negative (-3) and 11 points from 9 games.
there's few evidence to suggest this is no relegation escaping group. you can't get points on board if you cannot score goals.
Ten Hag attempted to solve the goal scoring issues but didn't get in the right players, judging from hindsight. Amad could have helped a bit, he was ignored for whatever reasons.
the same scoring issues hasn't changed. I think the goalkeeping can still be managed for now.
needless to say, there needs to be a more realistic effort to address scoring and it can only be personnel.
if we end up g yet another inexperienced striker like Delap to lead the line, nothing will change.

This squad is not a title winning squad and likely not even a top 4 squad, but they should not be just above relegation.

It is not just about not scoring. We have conceded more than Everton, Crystal Palace, Fulham, Bournemouth etc.

The squad is not good enough for our aspirations, but Amorim has also underperformed with what he has been given. This is the crux of my push back on the great players and good managers campaigner. The most likely reason for 10 years of almost continuous struggles is that we have signed mediocre coaches to accompany mediocre players.

The only reason Amorim might get a reprieve is that he came in mid-season. Next season such an excuse will not exist. With the benefit of a full pre-season, he has to demonstrate that he can coach and that he can improve players.
odizeey(m): 10:32am On May 05
TrebleChamp:
What have the yoot done wrong today that the senior players haven't done all season, some people will just bring fullish agenda to this space. Was it the yoot that put us in 14th place? Amorim should continue to play them in League matches, i want to see Kone in our next game...
Them dey expect the yoots to take them to 4th position.
odizeey(m): 10:35am On May 05
Oasis007:


grin

.....play 'yoot' crooner but have learned one or two lessons too.
This your post sound clownish.
I'm sure we've been winning loads of games with the senior players.
odizeey(m): 10:40am On May 05
eph12:

Whether Bodo or Tottenham o, I don't trust these our players to deliver. I hope they bring the trophy home though

When it comes to this Europa o. I trust them die.

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engrelvis(m): 10:42am On May 05
CapitalCee:


Wow, we played agaisnt Arsenal 11 vs 11 and we were the better team.

We played agaisnt Sociedad away 11-11 and we were the better team.
We played away to Lyon 11 vs 11 and was winning until Onana gave away a goal.

Agaisnt Bilbao who has the best defence in la liga we were 2-0 up before the red card. So how does that translate to winning due to 10 men.
I have been watching how many people's talk here about the team and the manager, all I can do is to just laugh.
All these narratives doesn't prove Amorim is a good coach.lrrespective of time given red card can change dynamics of a game. Second leg match of Lyon was a typical example. Do you think lf not for the red card those dying minutes goals would v been scored?. l DNT think so.

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odizeey(m): 10:44am On May 05
CapitalCee:
Chido Obi at 17 is a wonderful prospect, but is not ready yet for EpL games starting. He needs to continue with the youth team and eventually go on a loan to develop more skillsz. but I was told that he is better than Hojlund. As bad as Hojlund is Obi is no where near.

We need at least 5 quality players in a number of positions including the GK. then we will be fine. The academy players should be gradually ease in or loaned out.
Because of one first starts.
You give the senior players games to prove themselves but write of young boys based on one game. Hehehe.

Make nobody call for youths again for this board sha.

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odizeey(m): 10:47am On May 05
Ellexy:
Ruben Amorim on next season:

"W[b]e are NOT ready to play Premier League competitively and be in the UCL, but we need to win and we need to win Europa to give something to our fans.

“Then we will have time to prepare the team to COPE with those two competitions."[/b]

If this is not mind games, then he's mental. He think say na play he come play abi?
odizeey(m): 10:50am On May 05
TrebleChamp:
You are crying that the senior players are shit or worse than Southampton players, oya let Amorim give the yoot playing time for the rest of the League game let's see who can become first team player going into next season. You are here again crying that the yoot are not good enough, can United buy players in April to replace the so labelled shitty senior players? Giving the yoot more playing time in this League games will help Amorim access them better going into the new season, rather than in pre-season where almost every player plays like Maradona. This doesn't stop him from buying good players in the summer..

This thing is so simple.
When you see them praising these yoots you will think they are the next coming of yamal cheesy
So the yoots too dey gbezome afterall. cheesy

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akwesenana: 11:45am On May 05
odizeey:


This thing is so simple.
When you see them praising these yoots you will think they are the next coming of yamal cheesy
So the yoots too dey gbezome afterall. cheesy
Wait, no be you say Amorim no dey give youths chance? 🤔
CapitalCee(m): 12:02pm On May 05
odizeey:

Because of one first starts.
You give the senior players games to prove themselves but write of young boys based on one game. Hehehe.

Make nobody call for youths again for this board sha.

I didn't write them off, I said they should continue with their development, there was never any time I was in favour throwing youngsters into the deep end to avoid them being affected psychologically. I am in favour of giving them chance in dead rubber games, but they should form the fabric of the squad
odizeey(m): 12:08pm On May 05
CapitalCee:


I didn't write them off, I said they should continue with their development, there was never any time I was in favour throwing youngsters into the deep end to avoid them being affected psychologically. I am in favour of giving them chance in dead rubber games, but they should form the fabric of the squad
Okay o. This is noted
odizeey(m): 12:10pm On May 05
akwesenana:
Wait, no be you say Amorim no dey give youths chance? 🤔
He should play them more.

My stance was initially on Obi. But person sabi as una dey twist words for here. Person no go know when una go turn person word to another thing.

Does that answer your question?
engrelvis(m): 12:26pm On May 05
Bombblacks:

I watched both games. Arsenal had more shots, possession, corners, touches in our box, higher xG, same number of big chances.

Real Sociedad had more possession, same amount of shots, 2 big chances to our zero, more corners, higher xG etc

So pray tell how we were the better team.
Thank you.
nitrogen(m): 1:25pm On May 05
odizeey:


This thing is so simple.
When you see them praising these yoots you will think they are the next coming of yamal cheesy
So the yoots too dey gbezome afterall. cheesy

Abeg, who get this sub? mention names. tongue

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