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The United states did not tell Israel to occupy Palestine.
The United states did not tell Israel to plan and perpetrate the killing of more almost 4000 Palestinians
in Sabra and Shatila in Beirut Lebanon ( year 1982). This was under president Regan,
The United states is not giving order to Jewish settlers who are taking Palestinians lands , raping
Palestinians women . The list so long.
So when the Zionists are enjoying their crimes and boasting about it, why should the US take the lead
against the protesters ?
Can anyone say Palestinians are not the victims of oppression?
How can we Christians go to Church every Sunday and the next Monday clap our hands when the same
people who are under attack over the past 80 years are still being murdered?
President Trump should reconsider his move and rethink the blind he is giving to Netanyahu and
to the IDF. He must understand that saving the world from WW3 is more important than
lowering oneself to the level of those Zionists who feel more blessed when they are killing other people.
They even hate Christians
Read the attached Doc

There is no Palestine, much like there is no Wakanda. Every rational person is a Zionist. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

Botragelad:
There is no Palestine, much like there is no Wakanda. Every rational person is a Zionist. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?

Words of a plunderer.

panafrican:

Words of a plunderer.

Lol. Pan africanist indeed.

The United States Did Not Tell Israel to Occupy Palestine

You’re spot-on that the U.S. didn’t hand Israel a memo saying, “Go grab some land.” But what does “occupy Palestine” even mean? Before 1948, that land—under British Mandate—wasn’t some tidy nation-state called Palestine. It was a patchwork of peoples: Jewish Palestinians and Arab Palestinians, living side by side, sometimes fighting, sometimes not. Yes, you heard me—Jewish Palestinians. Back then, “Palestinian” was a geographic label, not a national identity. There were Jews born there, Arabs born there, all under British rule after the Ottoman Empire crumbled. Fast forward to 1948: the UN says, “Let’s split it—Israel for Jews, a state for Arabs.” Jews said yes; Arab leaders said no and attacked. Israel survived, and suddenly, “Palestine” became a rallying cry—but not until later.
Here’s the kicker: that modern Palestinian national identity? It didn’t crystallize until 1964, when the PLO was born. Before that, from 1948 to 1967, Egypt ran Gaza, and Jordan held the West Bank—renaming Judea and Samaria to erase its biblical roots. Did Palestinians rise up against Cairo or Amman, demanding a state? Not a peep. Their ire, their fists, their guns—all pointed at Israel. Why? Because this wasn’t just about land; it was about rejecting Israel’s right to exist. Hamas’s charter still screams it: no Israel, no peace. So, when Israel took the West Bank and Gaza in 1967—after surviving another Arab war to annihilate them—it wasn’t a random land grab. It was a buffer against enemies who’d rather see them dead than negotiate. Occupation? Sure, call it that—but it’s a war story, not a heist.
Oh, and today? Areas A and B of the West Bank are Palestinian-run, under their own flag. Signs there say “No Jews Allowed”—if that’s not apartheid vibes, what is? Meanwhile, Israel’s got Arab citizens voting, working, living. Funny how that gets ignored.

The United states did not tell Israel to plan and perpetrate the killing of more almost 4000 Palestinians
in Sabra and Shatila in Beirut Lebanon ( year 1982).

You're throwing around “almost 4,000 dead” in Sabra and Shatila like it’s gospel. Let’s dial it back—credible counts say 800 to 3,500, still a gut-wrenching tragedy. But saying Israel “planned and perpetrated” it? That’s a stretch so long it could bridge Lagos to Abuja. Here’s the scene: Lebanon, 1982, a country tearing itself apart in a civil war. Palestinian refugee camps like Sabra and Shatila were hotbeds of PLO fighters—guys who’d been launching attacks on Israel for years. Then, Lebanese Christian leader Bashir Gemayel gets assassinated, and his militia, the Phalange, lose their minds. They blame the PLO, storm the camps, and slaughter civilians—men, women, kids. Horrific? Absolutely. Israel’s role? They let the Phalange in, expecting them to root out fighters, not unleash hell.
Was it a colossal screw-up? Yes—Israel’s own Kahan Commission said so, nailing Ariel Sharon for negligence. He quit as Defense Minister over it. But “planned and perpetrated”? That’s like saying Nigeria orchestrated every Boko Haram massacre because we didn’t stop them fast enough. Context matters, and you're guy’s cherry-picking like a pro. What sparked the Phalange’s rage? Decades of PLO violence in Lebanon—hijackings, bombings, chaos. Palestinians weren’t just innocent bystanders; their leaders had made enemies. Doesn’t justify the bloodbath, but it explains it. Ignoring that is like reading a book with half the pages torn out.

The United states is not giving order to Jewish settlers who are taking Palestinians lands , raping Palestinians women . The list so long

It happens—some are rogue, lawless, and vile. Israel’s hauled hundreds to court, jailed them when the evidence sticks. But painting all Israelis as rapists and thieves is lazy propaganda. Flip the coin: Hamas siphons aid meant for Gaza’s hungry to dig terror tunnels. The Palestinian Authority hands cash to families of attackers while their own people starve. Evil’s got no monopoly—both sides have blood on their hands. So why only scream about Israel?
You say we should listen to Palestinians more. Fair enough—they’re suffering, no question: checkpoints choking their lives, homes lost, kids caught in crossfire. But who’re we listening to? The people or their leaders? Hamas hides rockets in schools, uses kids as shields, preaches death over dreams. Their own words—listen to them—say Israel’s erasure is the goal, not a state next door. From 1948 to 1967, when Egypt and Jordan held the reins, Palestinians didn’t march on Cairo or Amman. They aimed at Israel. Today, they’ve got autonomy in chunks of the West Bank, and Gaza’s theirs—yet the fight’s still on. Maybe it’s time they listened to themselves: their leaders keep choosing war over peace, and the kids pay the price.

How can we Christians go to Church every Sunday and the next Monday clap our hands when the same people who are under attack over the past 80 years are still being murdered?

Genesis 12:7: God promises the land to Abraham’s seed— the Jews NOT Arabs. Ezekiel 36-37: He says they’ll return from exile. In 1948, that prophecy clicks into place. Zechariah 12:2-3: Nations will gang up on Jerusalem in the end times—ring a bell?
In Israel, Christians pray freely; in Gaza, they’re silenced. Who’s the real hater here?

Under attack for 80 years

Wait a minute. Let’s rewind: 1948, Day One, Arab states reject the UN’s two-state deal and invade Israel. Palestinians suffer today, but their leaders—then and now—keep picking fights they can’t win. Listen to them: Hamas doesn’t want coexistence; they want conquest. That’s the root of this mess.

You care about Palestinian kids? Good. But people like you are the cause of their pain. Because the price of your is the death and suffering of children, Hamas keeps paying you in the currency you demand. How else will Hamas winnyour if they didn't sacrifice their civilians? Yes, their pain’s real, their future’s stolen. But pointing at Israel like they’re the sole villain is half the story. Hamas and the PA trap them in a cycle of hate and handouts. Want freedom for them? Call out the real oppressors: leaders who’d rather see them die than thrive. Israel’s got flaws—plenty—but it’s not the cartoon monster you’re sold. As Christians, we chase truth, not vibes. God’s word stands, history doesn’t bend, and facts don’t care about our feelings. Let’s reason like men, not wail like babies. Time to listen—to Palestinians, yes, but also to the cold, hard reality they’re screaming past.