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OkCornel(m): 10:01pm On Feb 22
richie240:
Las-las igboid. And igbos have drummed it into the hearing of every tom dick and harry that "se and ss are one", so rest!
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If you can believe I’m Igbo without evidence, then you can believe anything.

Hilarious thought process
richie240: 10:27pm On Feb 22
I said laslas u be IGBOID (ss) and una don tell Nigerians say "se (igbo) and ss (IGBOID) are one".
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OkCornel:


If you can believe I’m Igbo without evidence, then you can believe anything.

Hilarious thought process
OkCornel(m): 10:43pm On Feb 22
richie240:
I said laslas u be IGBOID (ss) and una don tell Nigerians say "se (igbo) and ss (IGBOID) are one".
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Who told you I’m from the SE or SS? 🤷
Virginkpekus(f): 11:04pm On Feb 22
seanfer:


Then you should not have problem with those that believe that the January 15 1966 coup was an Igbo coup. Everybody should choose whatever they want to believe and not force others to their claim.
Yes it's an igbo Coup...Babangida is just talking rubbish. Hope this settles the matter smiley
seunayantokun(m): 11:47pm On Feb 22
[quote author=igbosarejews post=134251131][/quote]

Attention: igboarejews.

Your response is fallacious because you have misrepresented the direction of my post. Two, the quoted message you replied with obviously implies that IBB has said the truth , putting us in danger of seeing him as a truth sayer or credible source of those past events and so help him to achieve his dubious intent unawares. This is my worrisome observation — I don't know if that is your intention.

The purpose of my post is that the published autobiography of IBB is an attempt to fraudulently launder his past so as to appear good to everyone.

From what I've read so far, the crafty book employs truths, half-truths and complete untruths woven together to achieve its goal. My stance isn't whether the coup referred to was an Igbo one or not. So, you can defend your ethnic interest without making an innate lying machine a trustworthy fellow.

Because of your reply, I will now comment on the coup issue so that you can see the dubiousness of that evil genius.

While January 15th 1966 coup was originally not planned as an Igbo coup, it was perceived as such, especially in the north, given the fact that major beneficiaries of it were Igbo while others were licking their wounds and wiping their tears.

Two, Late Gen Aguiyi Ironsi who was not reported to be one of the coup plotters, being an Igbo man, became head of state, threw the constitution out and introduced first time in Nigeria a unitary system of government which took away the freedom of self-governance that various ethnicities in Nigeria had until then enjoyed at regional level — the north gradually got hold of this virus through their people in the military and have since made Nigeria a unitary system which the Fulani today wouldn't let go because of their evil fulanisation agenda. Don't forget that if we had that constitution in place today, Nigeria could be like the UK, the US, Canada and other developed countries, but here we are with boko haram, ISIS, Fulani herdsmen terrorists, bandits, corruption, roguery, etc.

Also, Ironsi did promotions of military officers which were massively in favour of the Igbo or officers from the Eastern Region.

If it wasn't perceived as an Igbo coup, why did northern elements in the military organised a counter coup of July 29th 1966 during which they killed Ironsi and his friend Adekunke Fajuyi in Ibadan?

Why did the federal or unitary government under Gowon not stop the killing of Igbo people in the north?

If IBB believed it wasn't an Igbo coup, why did he participate in the consequent civil war of 1967 – 1970 in which a lot of base acrimony played a major part and war crimes were committed by soldiers of northern extraction? Why didn't he played a man of candour and courage like Lt Col Victor Banjo, a Yoruba man who fought on the side of Biafra though Ojukwu allegedly later betrayed and executed him on the grounds that were reportedly mere wishes and cooked up thoughts? Of course, Odumegwu later explained his side of the story, like everyone of the officers from all parts of Nigeria has been doing — the onus lies on us to research and get the truth.

IBB also denies that he killed Dele Giwa. Who wants to believe that? Who then did it? I'm just laughing at his buffoonery. What kind of old man lies senselessly like that?

Who annulled results of June 12 1993 presidential election which he just itted MKO Abiola won? He has denied that while at the same time also indicating it was done in the interest of the country. He has also crafted another story to extricate himself from the responsibility saying it was Abacha who also used Nwosu, Nzeribe, Irabor, Akpamgbo, bla, bla, bla to do the deed. Nonsense! The evil in that is an aggravation of the current mutual distrust between the ethnicities involved, just because the old liar wants to look clean.

Please, and please friend, don't ride on IBB's narrative horse, it is unnecessary risk-taking.

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StUriah(m): 12:52am On Feb 23
Kewekubosineh:
You are in the same boat. Same kids of yesteryears trying to prove a point. I think you belong to same indomie generation who are bereft of past history. But trying to rabble rouse in every issue.

When were you born to know what happened in 1966? Or you listened to fable stories from your parents?

Defensing the poster is evidence you are a kid and bereft of ideas.

You should be ignored!

See how very stupid you are for not ignoring my comments.

If I am born in the early 70s you think i shouldn't be your Papa's senior by now?

Between 1966 and 1972 what's is he difference. Indomie that became your household name wasn't existing then.

Yam legger!

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princeade86(m): 5:11am On Feb 23
chopnaira:

It was an igbo coup.

shebi u know more than IBB na
Ngozi123(f): 5:53am On Feb 23
Softmirror:


Those whose kinsmen were murdered on cold blood. Ademoyega obviously was only trying to exonerate himself.

How would itting that it was an Igbo coup exonerate him? If anything, it would make him look like an innocent (yet naive) lamb who was tricked by the big bad Igbos into starting a war.

Try and look at his objectively. What would people like IBB or Ademoyega gain by lying about this?

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Ngozi123(f): 5:56am On Feb 23
richie240:
Just kukuma tell us the coupists told ademoyega that the plan was to kill only the military and political leaders of other Nigerians apart from igbos and see if it made sense.

If me and you already planned to kill all our vagabond brothers and it so happened that it was only yours that 'ate' the hot leads while mine was 'coincidentally' left untouched, what does that tell you??

The same thing happened even in 2020 where the 'endsars' protest that was supposed to be a national protest turned to ''kill tinubu', kill sanwooulu'' and d destruction of lives and properties in southwest while southeast was left untouched

Una always dey think say na una wise , and na this 'overskill' - wey kill monkey - go make Nigeria never trust una till thy kingdom come!

Wale ademoyega is just like the current misguided present day falz, macaroni, hundeyin, rinu and rufai oseni who still don't know they are being used by igbós yo further their sinister agenda.
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Why would they even risk involving him if it was just intended to be an "Igbo coup"?

Did any of the Northern soldiers bother to include Igbos in the counter coup of July 1966?
Ngozi123(f): 6:04am On Feb 23
Softmirror:


Igbos blessings?! Infact he is putting you further against the North for alleging that Nzeogwu was 'Hausa' but with an Igbo name.

Wait for their own reaction in due time.

This makes no sense as the Igbos have been saying this about Nzeogwu for ages. It's people like you who have been saying otherwise.
Ngozi123(f): 6:08am On Feb 23
givedemwotowoto:


Ademoyega wrote his book over 15 years after the coup. He knew and worked with his colleagues. He knew who and who started it and planned it. He knew there was no Igbo coup and no forewarning. All these thrash are from ethnic bigots but IBB has put it to rest. You can keep wallowing in delusion, but I’m sure the north will listen to IBB over some no good people focused on ethnic agenda. This lie has expired!

Exactly. If anything, IBB is trying to unite the North with the Igbos. We all know why certain people here are trying to dispute it.

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richie240: 6:12am On Feb 23
So you are basically saying wale ademoyega was aware that all the political leaders of nigeria apart were to be killed [B]excluding[/b] those of igbós origin right?

That makes a lot of sense. x
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Ngozi123:


Why would they even risk involving him if it was just intended to be an "Igbo coup"?

Did any of the Northern soldiers bother to include Igbos in the counter coup of July 1966?
Ngozi123(f): 6:18am On Feb 23
boxypane:
Even Rufai is confused. A coup that was suppose to be bloodless was over taken by an ethnic bigot who went on a killing spree.
We don't need to be there... IBB will be silly to narrate it that way but the bitter truth is Igbos cannot be trusted with power.
In the words of Lord Lugard about the Igbos he conversed with while in Nigeria.

Lord Lugard was a racist, imperialist bigot who (if alive to day) would regard you just a little above a monkey. Having him say this about my people is actually a compliment for me. The British liked people they could control.
givedemwotowoto: 6:24am On Feb 23
richie240:
So you are basically saying wale ademoyega was aware that all the political leaders of nigeria apart were to be killed [B]excluding[/b] those of igbós origin right?

That makes a lot of sense. x
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Haven’t you read his book? He said Azikiwe was not a target of the coup, he was only a ceremonial president. Just like you rarely hear of ceremonial University Chancellors, they’re not part of the day to day running of the country. He also itted that failure to eliminate Aguyi Ironsi was due to operational failures and misunderstandings among them. These he wrote over 15 years after the coup. But believe your own lies though, this information is of no use to you

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Ngozi123(f): 6:34am On Feb 23
richie240:
So you are basically saying wale ademoyega was aware that all the political leaders of nigeria apart were to be killed [B]excluding[/b] those of igbós origin right?

That makes a lot of sense. x
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Was Nzeogwu aware? Or is it by virtue of being Igbo that you just assume he was.
richie240: 6:54am On Feb 23
And in what way does all these dispute the fact that the coupists killed the military and political leaders of the west, north and midwest while none was touched from the east?

Sebi na una get sense okwea??
Una go explain taya!
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Ngozi123:


Was Nzeogwu aware? Or is it by virtue of being Igbo that you just assume he was.

givedemwotowoto:


Haven’t you read his book? He said Azikiwe was not a target of the coup, he was only a ceremonial president. Just like you rarely hear of ceremonial University Chancellors, they’re not part of the day to day running of the country. He also itted that failure to eliminate Aguyi Ironsi was due to operational failures and misunderstandings among them. These he wrote over 15 years after the coup. But believe your own lies though, this information is of no use to you

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drugBaronTINUBU: 6:58am On Feb 23
Image123:
really? A 25 year old new army officer's views? He clearly mentioned that he was speculating and that events that unfolded afterwards tended to that the rumours may be true afterall. Anyway, let bygones be bygones.
Ademoyega is also speculative?
uchwar1: 7:04am On Feb 23
easzypeaszy:
Rufai get sense?
Pained f*ol looking for validation from the dot nation.
People that don't regard anybody except themselves.
People you will still crash with soon.
looking for unnecessary attention. If IBB had written against it is, u would have been jumping all over the thread with your hates, ing IBB. What has your hatred and wickedness got to do with an Igbo man's reaction to your hatred? Grow up
Ngozi123(f): 7:28am On Feb 23
richie240:

And in what way does all these dispute the fact that the coupists killed the military and political leaders of the west, north and midwest while none was touched from the east?

Sebi na una get sense okwea??
Una go explain taya!
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You act like there were hundreds of leaders involved and all were killed a part from the Igbo ones.

Take away the tribal lense here and analyse what happened.

The only Igbo leaders who would have been targeted were Nnamdi Azikiwe and Michael Okpara.

The official reason for why Nnamdi Azikiwe left the country was because he was 'sick'. He might have been warned and heeded said warning but we don't know for sure if that was the reason he left. Other leaders like Akintola were warned but they did not flee.

Michael Okpara being arrested but not killed may have been as a result of miscommunication. It's the same reason why Femi Fani-Kayode wasn't killed. This is all according to Fola Oyewole, who fought on the Biafra side during the war.

https://dailypost.ng/2019/05/05/ex-biafra-soldier-oyewole-explains-zik-okpara-fani-kayode-not-killed-1966-coup/


A lot of people use conjectures to come to the conclusion that the coup was intended to put Igbo people in power but I really don't think that was the case.

Why did they kill Tafewa Balewa if the mission was to put Aguiyi-Ironsi in power?


If the Nigerian military were to takeover now, would they go ahead and kill Tinubu straight away? Wouldn't they just arrest him like what happened in Niger recently?

The only reason I see is that they wanted to put someone else in a prime minister and that someone else was Awolowo.

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boxypane: 9:57am On Feb 23
Ngozi123:


Lord Lugard was a racist, imperialist bigot who (if alive to day) would regard you just a little above a monkey. Having him say this about my people is actually a compliment for me. The British liked people they could control.
You're correct in one way, but the fact that majority have not actually moved on from the incidence of that coup is causing lots of disunity. And that's why the issue of marginalization will forever remain a topic. Because of the actions of one man!!!
And one thing is for a fact! The same Igbos are rebellious among themselves...

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richie240: 12:09pm On Feb 23
Ngozi123:


You act like there were hundreds of leaders involved and all were killed a part from the Igbo ones
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Hehehehe..... u need not kill a million people. The moment you capture/kill their king, it's game over. You kill the leaders of other regions while yours weren't harmed in any way yet you expect an applause from those affected because you didn't kill "hundreds of their leaders" okwea?? Clap 4 yasef

[Take away the tribal lense here and analyse what happened.
Sorry brah, there's no other way a sane human will look at it apart from the 'tribal' angle in as much as those who perpetrated the heinous act weren't affected.

The only Igbo leaders who would have been targeted were Nnamdi Azikiwe and Michael Okpara. [color=#990000]The official reason for why Nnamdi Azikiwe left the country was because he was 'sick'. He might have been warned and heeded said warning but we don't know for sure if that was the reason he left. Other leaders like Akintola were warned but they did not flee.

Thanks for saying 'official'. We are much more interested in the 'unofficial' reasons why no igbo leader was killed yet there was a 100% success rate in other regions.

Michael Okpara being arrested but not killed may have been as a result of miscommunication. It's the same reason why Femi Fani-Kayode wasn't killed. This is all according to Fola Oyewole, who fought on the Biafra side during the war.

Hehehehehe ...why wasn't Sadauna of sokoto 'arrested' but killed??
**why wasn't Sadauna of sokoto's
PREGNANT WIFE arrested but killed??
**Why wasn't okotie ebor arrested but killed
**Why wasn't tafawa balewa arrested but killed??
**How come the coupists were made up of over 90% igbós yet the coup recorded 0% success rate in alaigbo but recorded 100% success rate in other regions??

https://dailypost.ng/2019/05/05/ex-biafra-soldier-oyewole-explains-zik-okpara-fani-kayode-not-killed-1966-coup/


A lot of people use conjectures to come to the conclusion that the coup was intended to put Igbo people in power but I really don't think that was the case.

Why did they kill Tafewa Balewa if the mission was to put Aguiyi-Ironsi in power?


If the Nigerian military were to takeover now, would they go ahead and kill Tinubu straight away? Wouldn't they just arrest him like what happened in Niger recently?

The only reason I see is that they wanted to put someone else in a prime minister and that someone else was Awolowo.
When was the last time the perennially clannish average igboman died for others?? grin The only thing that saved awo from the coupists' bullets was bcus he was behind bars or else his sorry ass would've been fried along with his non-igbo counterparts.
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OkCornel(m): 12:29pm On Feb 23
richie240:
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Hehehehe..... u need not kill a million people. The moment you capture/kill their king, it's game over. You kill the leaders of other regions while yours weren't harmed in any way yet you expect an applause from those affected because you didn't kill "hundreds of their leaders" okwea?? Clap 4 yasef


Sorry brah, there's no other way a sane human will look at it apart from the 'tribal' angle in as much as those who perpetrated the heinous act weren't affected.



Thanks for saying 'official'. We are much more interested in the 'unofficial' reasons why no igbo leader was killed yet there was a 100% success rate in other regions.



Hehehehehe ...why wasn't Sadauna of sokoto 'arrested' but killed??
**why wasn't Sadauna of sokoto's
PREGNANT WIFE arrested but killed??
**Why wasn't okotie ebor arrested but killed
**Why wasn't tafawa balewa arrested but killed??
**How come the coupists were made up of over 90% igbós yet the coup recorded 0% success rate in alaigbo but recorded 100% success rate in other regions??


When was the last time the perennially clannish average igboman died for others?? grin The only thing that saved awo from the coupists' bullets was bcus he was behind bars or else his sorry ass would've been fried along with his non-igbo counterparts.
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Arthur Unegbe is not an Igbo man I guess…
gabbytabby: 12:41pm On Feb 23
Babangida is your source of truth.

givedemwotowoto:
Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni



Source: https://x.com/ruffydfire/status/1893162061640688033
professorPABX: 12:43pm On Feb 23
OkCornel:


Ogbeni, think.

When all the warring parties exhaust their ammunition, where exactly will they get their replenishments from if not the armoury?

And how exactly is a coup successful if the coupists have no control over the armoury?

Don’t make me laugh here please. Even a mai-guard will know something as basic as this. Smh

You are just talking nonsense online. I was advised to ignore you and your brothers that was why I restricted myself.

Joe Garba and some officers at the front line are late now but we still have TY Danjuma one of the main man at front line and chief actor in the counter coup. Gowon came back from abroad few days to the coup and was in Lagos.

On several sidelines Gowon and TY Danjuma have given some s. We have the privilege of hearing from some key actors when they were alive and some that are still alive. You don't know anything about military operations and coups.

General TY Danjuma told Aguiyi Ironsi wife few years ago he had no regret for the counter coup. His report is the best report on what happened in both coups. You allowed the key people in your tribe to escape and executed the key people occupying sensitive position in other tribes.


I can bet with anything till date, if you plan to kill an Hausa big trader in computer village, a Yoruba big trader in Computer Village and an IBO big trader in Computer Village on Sunday midnight against Monday morning, before this evening, the IBO big trader would have escaped while the Hausa and the Yoruba would have been eliminated. That is the state till today. You wanted to eliminate others and keep your brothers. Nothing has changed. There was coup earlier in Ghana it was purely military operations.

I will not answer you again as earlier advised.

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gabbytabby: 12:45pm On Feb 23
Nigeria is a country that lends itself to a lot of Narcissist that are mentally incapacitated.
Smartcitizen: 12:46pm On Feb 23
AmazingELixir:
grin

There was an igbo coup planned and masterminded by people of igbo extraction. QED Ipob is a disease.



🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Please hold tight these views so that you can be able to survive this T-PAIN government induced hardship.


Whatever will make you happy, please believe and do it for comfort sake.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thomasankara(m): 12:47pm On Feb 23
[/color]the coup was hijacked from Ademoyega and he would have even lost his life, if not for sheer luck. He was the initiator, but not the executor [color=#770077]
givedemwotowoto:
Ethnic Bigots Are Upset That IBB Debunked The Igbo Coup Narrative - Rufai Oseni



Source: https://x.com/ruffydfire/status/1893162061640688033
Thomasankara(m): 12:52pm On Feb 23
[/color]Nnamdi was a toothless bulldog, he was a ceremonial president that would never sign bills[color=#770077]
Lovelies1:
History needs to be modified and sets well for future progress .


And for some people who said no leaders was killed in the south west..

The record said ahmadu bello was pushing for Islamic law implementation in Nigeria that push the more quest to kill him.

As for Tafawa Bello though a quiet man they felt he strongly align with Ahmadu Bello ideology and also since the picture was to put in Awolowo there was no second consideration..


As for Akintola, the record said they had no intention to kill him but to put him in prison.. however he opened fire on them and this created exchange of bullets.

As for okpara and Azikiwe. The news quickly escalated. Ifeajuna who was to kill both men was quickly subdue and most igbo officers was killed on the spot.


Obiechuna stopped the coup. Which led to aguiyi ironsi first control as the head of state. Though triggered annoyance from the northern sphere on why aguiyi is yet to prosecute them


But on a serious note why will it be an igbo coup when nnamdi Azikiwe is already the then head of state
OkCornel(m): 1:04pm On Feb 23
professorPABX:


You are just talking nonsense online. I was advised to ignore you and your brothers that was why I restricted myself.

Joe Garba and some officers at the front line are late now but we still have TY Danjuma one of the main man at front line and chief actor in the counter coup. Gowon came back from abroad few days to the coup and was in Lagos.

On several sidelines Gowon and TY Danjuma have given some s. We have the privilege of hearing from some key actors when they were alive and some that are still alive. You don't know anything about military operations and coups.

General TY Danjuma told Aguiyi Ironsi wife few years ago he had no regret for the counter coup. His report is the best report on what happened in both coups. You allowed the key people in your tribe to escape and executed the key people occupying sensitive position in other tribes.


I can bet with anything till date, if you plan to kill an Hausa big trader in computer village, a Yoruba big trader in Computer Village and an IBO big trader in Computer Village on Sunday midnight against Monday morning, before this evening, the IBO big trader would have escaped while the Hausa and the Yoruba would have been eliminated. That is the state till today. You wanted to eliminate others and keep your brothers. Nothing has changed. There was coup earlier in Ghana it was purely military operations.

I will not answer you again as earlier advised.



Mention one successful coup in Nigeria where the coupists took over government without securing and controlling the armoury.

I dare you to mention one. We are all waiting patiently to see who’s talking nonsense here.

By the way, who are you referring to as my brothers? 🤷
Yorubafather: 1:05pm On Feb 23
professorPABX:


You are just talking nonsense online. I was advised to ignore you and your brothers that was why I restricted myself.

Joe Garba and some officers at the front line are late now but we still have TY Danjuma one of the main man at front line and chief actor in the counter coup. Gowon came back from abroad few days to the coup and was in Lagos.

On several sidelines Gowon and TY Danjuma have given some s. We have the privilege of hearing from some key actors when they were alive and some that are still alive. You don't know anything about military operations and coups.

General TY Danjuma told Aguiyi Ironsi wife few years ago he had no regret for the counter coup. His report is the best report on what happened in both coups. You allowed the key people in your tribe to escape and executed the key people occupying sensitive position in other tribes.


I can bet with anything till date, if you plan to kill an Hausa big trader in computer village, a Yoruba big trader in Computer Village and an IBO big trader in Computer Village on Sunday midnight against Monday morning, before this evening, the IBO big trader would have escaped while the Hausa and the Yoruba would have been eliminated. That is the state till today. You wanted to eliminate others and keep your brothers. Nothing has changed. There was coup earlier in Ghana it was purely military operations.

I will not answer you again as earlier advised.








So you believe Ty Danjuma and Gowon then why did you reject IBB own? take your useless incoherent gibberish out of here, your comment makes no sense at all, spit

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Yorubafather: 1:07pm On Feb 23
OkCornel:


Mention one successful coup in Nigeria where the coupists took over government without securing and controlling the armoury.

I dare you to mention one. We are all waiting patiently to see who’s talking nonsense here.






Don't mind that dude who end up making fool of himself grin grin

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richie240: 1:26pm On Feb 23
Arthur Unegbe wasn't slated for elimination.
He was - to borrow the teminolgy of the average igbo - a 'sabo'. He stood in the way of the coupists when he blatantly refused to hand over the keys to the armoury.
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OkCornel:


Arthur Unegbe is not an Igbo man I guess…

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