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SW Governors To Site SW Development Commission HQ At Cocoa House, Ibadan. (10178 Views)
UltraSolid: 9:00am On Feb 14 |
masseratti: I know the verminous character I responded to very well. It is about Igbos and their hateful and envious instincts towards Yorubas with that character and others like him. Per the bolded in your post, why build a new structure at great cost when the current structure can be cost-effectively renovated and retrofitted to become more modern and functional? Especially if a building or skyscraper of historical significance and symbolism. You can see a directly comparable example of a historic skyscraper in New York being sympathetically restored below. We should shun intellectual Laziness in Nigeria. It is killing us as one big reasons projects, regularly, are abandoned expensively to pursue new wasteful 'replacements'. The black man, especially Africans, spends money wastefully simply because it is readily available instead of being prudent to then lean towards cost-effectiveness. Especially in relation to use of public funds. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Onewazobia(m): 9:18am On Feb 14 |
mrvitalis: Two wrong those not make right |
RenaissanceGuy: 9:22am On Feb 14 |
LegendHero:Very true, that building should be left in that dilapidated state to show that it's a very old building. In fact, they should collapse a part of it into rubble to further show that old is gold. This is one of the backward reasonings that has made a state capital like Ibadan a sea of mud houses and rustic roofing. |
Ojuntana: 9:23am On Feb 14 |
UltraSolid:Zombified fossil |
Gboom: 9:46am On Feb 14 |
mrvitalis:Hatred and bitterness are terrible diseases, and it may lead you to depression and kpai. 2 Likes 1 Share |
BreconHills(m): 9:49am On Feb 14 |
EmperorIsaac: Which defeats the whole idea of history and tradition. They can give it a make over but never should they build a "befitting whatever" 1 Like |
UltraSolid: 9:51am On Feb 14 |
Gboom: Lol. Why do you think they have always lost and continue losing throughout the post-independent history of our nation? 1 Like |
UltraSolid: 9:54am On Feb 14 |
BreconHills: That is the option they will settle on. Makes financial, historical and cultural sense. 1 Like |
Kaiser20: 9:57am On Feb 14 |
The HQs of SW is Ibadan, Not Lagos, now they got it right. They should develop Ibadan City to be like New York |
mrvitalis(m): 9:59am On Feb 14 |
Truthcat:If I show u 10 what would u do to yourself |
Care4: 10:26am On Feb 14 |
EmperorIsaac: That house, like those built by Awolowo and co, are stronger than what all these politicians are stealing with these days. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
sreamsense: 10:37am On Feb 14 |
mrvitalis:If cocoa house cited in Ibadan Oyo state is not economically viable according to your Biafra theory, how come only Oyo state generate revenue that is more than all your five south east states that built legacy projects? How come with your legacy viable projects cited in the south east, more than half of your populations abandoned your legacy projects to come to south west states to share from the resources of those that built less viable economic projects based on your Biafran analysis? How come more than 70% of your student south east population after graduation must step their feet in south west states before they can get good jobs where you believe is less economically viable with show off projects? You better keep your Biafran analysis to yourself. Money generated from cocoa house alone is nearly equivalent to what your two of the states generate in all your so called international market that can be termed local government market if they were to be cited in south west in of revenue generation 2 Likes 1 Share |
aswani(m): 10:46am On Feb 14 |
UltraSolid: Whilst you have a point, you are also at fault. If you had ignored the Obidient poster, they will soon learn that their ridiculously immature opinions on such matters have no gravitas and stop regaling us with them. |
Blazebond(m): 11:22am On Feb 14 |
The entire regions now have development commission except south-south,they are all forming development commissions without no single source of self funding from their respective region's,they all want to fund the commissions with oil revenues,the NDDC that we have today always had their funding from the oil wealth,but the new commissions that they are creating up and down can't come out openly to state where their funding will be from. And the funny thing is that the NDDC still have states from the East (IMO,ABIA) and state from the west (ondo) included in them, HAHAHAHAHA,this country and the open tribalism being practiced by the three major tribe's (Yoruba igbo and hausa) is really pathetic. I don't have time with all their rubbish commissions o,all I want is that only the funds gotten from the states in each commission should be sent to their development commissions,no other states wealth needs to be given to another region to develop their regions,if you want a development commission,then source for your funds by yourself shikenna. Who want to vex can vex o,I nor send anybody papa and Mama. |
mrvitalis(m): 11:25am On Feb 14 |
sreamsense:Lmao which school did you go to please |
masseratti: 11:35am On Feb 14 |
UltraSolid:it will çost way less to build a new building for the commission than to renovate cocoa house,the istrative building might not even need more than just 4 floors ...a ten floors new skyscraper can suffice ,then we raise money among ourselves to refurbished cocoa house ..those historical buildings you posted most were renovated with endowment funds, contribution..etc..my point is the commission should jusg face what the Manda is South west development...if Odua investment issues and ipo for the renovation of cocoa house .it will be over subscribe by Yorubas immediately..but when you put people who are not competent in such investment company with a very high turnover of management every four or eight years ..what we have now is what you get .. massive corruption is going on there..if you know the kind of assets those investment company sits on...some state budget can not even go near them in figures ..but still mismanagement. |
EmperorIsaac(m): 11:35am On Feb 14 |
anonimi:The problem we have in Nigrria is comprehension, unfortunately. Just last month, we were moved to a new building, because the tallest building we hitherto occupy has lasted for about 50 years! They say its structural integrity is in doubt and they are about to bring it down. All the places you mentioned have undergone serious makeover in millions of pounds and dollars, respectively! So, learn to sieve out intents and don't lord your opinion on others. You don't have all the details; and even if you do, everyone's reasoning cannot be like yours. Don't quote me again as I will not dignify you with a response. |
LegendHero(m): 12:47pm On Feb 14 |
PeachtreeReside: Thank you 🙏. I wish you the same too. 1 Like |
anonimi: 1:22pm On Feb 14 |
EmperorIsaac: Your hypocritical attempt at cyber bullying has failed before arrival. If it is not cyber bullying, then point out where I tried to lord my opinion on others and asked everyone to reason like me ![]() 1 Like 2 Shares |
7lives: 1:45pm On Feb 14 |
ElSudani: Precisely why they had to strike, they don't want to be left behind. They just don't get it, " won o to eye ri, iye ni won a ma wo l'eyin eye ". |
sreamsense: 2:50pm On Feb 14 |
mrvitalis:If I went to the same unrated school (in Nigeria talkless of africa) that produced you, I will disgrace myself like you just did with your poor analysis. We saw what your best lawyers (that never lost cases according to Biafra rating ) that your schools produced performed poorly like they were just 200-level law students in the south west. Is that your same unrated school you went that you want me to mention or what? |
Konquest: 2:51pm On Feb 14 |
TossTos:For the sake of clarity... What the then Senator Bola Tinubu (now President of Nigeria) meant in that two-page interview he granted to Ayo Arowolo who was then a member of staff of "ThisDay" newspapers back in the late 1990s is that "he didn't believe in the way the entirety of Nigeria was inefficiently constituted at that time" which coincided with the pro-democracy struggles by students, lawyers, journalists, and other activists with international to restore democracy in the aftermath of the annulment of the June 12, 1993 elections and the brutal assassinations of several well-known people (such as the car bombing of the Chief Security Officer of Murtala Mohammed International Airport in Ikeja, Alhaja Kudirat Abiola, Chief Alfred Rewane, gun attacks on the vehicles of Chief Abraham Adesanya, Chief Alex Ibru was severely wounded but survived, etc) by the military hit-squads led by Al-Mustapha working for the criminal military dictatorship of Sani Abacha. The headline of that original This Day newspaper article was sensationalized by the ThisDay Editor (like newspapers still love to do) in the late 1990s to generate a larger readership (and to give the impression that Bola Tinubu did NOT want to have anything to do with Nigeria again as of when he granted the interview to Ayo Arowolo). Now, you have an insidious gang of young, headless chickens sharing just the screenshots of ONLY the first page of that article WITHOUT reading the second page which most of those trolls have definitely never read to get a better understanding of what the article entailed. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Konquest: 3:21pm On Feb 14 |
UltraSolid:Absolutely well said. What you wrote above was on my mind until I saw your post which succinctly captured my thoughts. The iconic "Cocoa House" located in the Central Business District (CBD) area of Ibadan can undergo gentrification into a modern masterpiece. Unknown to the younger generation, that building was the FIRST EVER skyscraper in Nigeria, and the famous "Western House" on Lagos Island was ALSO built by the government of the Old Western Region led by Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo, GCFR, SAN, and his dynamic team of strategists, making the "Western House" the tallest skyscraper as of the time of construction on Lagos Island. Second, Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo's thinking was clearly light years ahead in the 1950s with the construction of the first ever modern TV station in Nigeria, first modern stadia, several Industrial Estates in the Old Western Region (Oluyole Industrial Estate in Ibadan, Ikeja Industrial Estate, Ilupeju, Iganmu and Isolo Industrial Estates, etc, which other regions scrambled to ALSO copy in Kaduna, Trans-Amadi in Port Harcourt and in Aba) and the current team of political and business leaders in the Western States of Nigeria have to be "disruptively innovative" and think light years ahead as well, just like Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore transformed an underdeveloped city-state into a modern, technologically advanced country. I have a copy of Lee Kuan Yew's over 800-page book (which I first bought and read n the early 2000s) in my home library, entitled: "From Third World to First: The Singapore Story" and the book literally shows how countries can be transformed with innovative leaders who have a sense of urgency. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Konquest: 3:23pm On Feb 14 |
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ValarDoharis: 3:46pm On Feb 14 |
Stop deceiving yourself before you run away with it that Tinubu has restructured Nigeria. This is not restructuring but creating looting avenues dealslip: |
UltraSolid: 3:50pm On Feb 14 |
Konquest: God bless you. Demolish Cocoa House, a fantastic part of the history of the SW, and put what in it's place? Cocoa house is an architectural museum-standard monument and not just a building. Great post Sir. Below are examples of UK grade 2 listed buildings warranting preservation protection while some want the demolition of one of the most iconically important and symbolic building in Nigeria ever. A historic skyscraper for that matter.
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Mrexcell(m): 4:26pm On Feb 14 |
ValarDoharis: The federal govt is shying away from real restructuring and resources control that's why they are creating regional commissions in its place. |
Konquest: 5:57pm On Feb 14 |
UltraSolid:@UltraSolid, Succinctly stated. It's good to know that folks like you have a great sense of history. Those preserved UK homes in the attached images further emphasize what we are saying here. However, back in the 2000s, I visited the "Western House" skyscraper built in the 1950s by the Old Western Region on Lagos Island before it underwent gentrification years later by Wemabod which is the property division of the Old Western Region and now Odua Investment. (Some elevators were down and repaintings of some sections were needed at that time but some sections that were already occupied by various business offices of Chambers of Commerce and more were okay). So, a structural integrity has to be conducted on the "Cocoa House" as well to ensure that it can withstand future earth tremors (and even earthquakes) because Ibadan and Abeokuta have historically experienced earth tremors (not earthquake scenarios) in the decades past due to the FACT that there's an earthquake fault line running from the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of West Africa. A top Nigerian geologist, Prof. Odeyemi had since the 1980s talked and warned about that fault line which es through the Western parts of Nigeria moving up North, (hence the Abeokuta, Ibadan, Saki in Oyo State earth tremors). Even Abuja and Bayelsa experienced earth tremors in the 2010s. With early warning systems in place though, people can be alerted to potential plate tectonic activities though. That said, I was unhappy with the demolition of some iconic Brazilian-styled buildings built on Lagos Island in the late 1800s and just after 1900 by some wealthy Yoruba returnees from Bahia in Brazil. Those buildings should have been restored to generate income from foreign and Nigeria-based tourists. Fortunately the mansion (Water House or Agua d'Casa) built by Candido da Rocha, (the first ever Nigerian to become a millionaire in British Pounds is still standing. His father was an Ijesa-Yoruba returnee from Bahia, Brazil, and Candido also returned with him in the 1850s). With the rise of ancestry DNA tests by DNA testing companies, more Diasporan African descendants from the unfortunate plantation slavery years are visiting Africa (especially West Africa, Angola, and Congo) more and more to connect with their roots. Just last month (January 2025), A delegation of tourists led by Gina Paige of African Ancestry visited Lagos with her entourage (who had taken DNA tests linking them to specific West African ethnic groups either on the paternal or maternal sides) and the Lagos State Governor Babajide Sanwo-Olu welcomed them in his office. They later visited the J.K. Randle Yoruba Cultural Center on Lagos Island and a few places outside Lagos. That's the cultural and income-generation cashflow from international tourism we are talking about. Enjoy the rest of your day. |
Fahd11: 10:04pm On Feb 14 |
In all that will happen in 2027, may we not elect wrongly with the Pandoran trickster as well. May Nigeria be great again. ValarDoharis: |
Fahd11: 10:10pm On Feb 14 |
The children from the region of hate cannot fathom anything like this in their region. I doubt they have historical buildings and as well know their significance to the identity of the people, history and culture. Sadly, development came too late into that part of the country because they have always been filled with hate and envy from creation. Anyway, they can make Okija shrine the headquarters of the SEDC. The shrine is a monumental and historical location for their history and identity. Awon weyrey |
ValarDoharis: 1:37am On Feb 15 |
They do not have the political will to put Nigeria in the path of greatness. Perhaps, we lack the ability to govern ourselves Mrexcell: |
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