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Dont Come To Canada - It Is Japa To Sapa - Many People Are Living In Poverty (7667 Views)
Kaido: 8:33am On Dec 15, 2024 |
See English. Wetin be "builded"
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Gerrard59(m): 10:48am On Dec 15, 2024 |
In the comment section, it was stated that he left the UK to Canada. Now, if he left Nigeria with that face to the UK, and then left the UK to Canada and the face is still the same.
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Gerrard59(m): 10:54am On Dec 15, 2024 |
tensazangetsu20:I met an American earlier today who studied Japanese in his bachelor's and confessed that studying just a language isn't a skill. He recommended it should be with another program, not only the language. Man is going back to the US for good because, apparently, speaking Japanese isn't a skill in Japan. The same Japan wey I know many Africans who got good jobs months before they graduated. I ed his decision as the US offered him the best opportunity to make money since he is a citizen and a white man. You have to play to your strengths in life to make it. It is a skill issue, not necessarily country. 2 Likes |
dapoRead: 12:05pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
Gerrard59:You will not escape the absolute institutional racism of any European entity. If you like go to Australia, the U.S.A, Canada, or even worse Israel. The Europeans who invaded these countries made sure, the advanced slavery continued, the only difference between now and then is that, in this era, they have mastered how to hide the slavery in their inbuilt system. The men in the video are absolutely right. TheFreshVanilla:The truth of the matter is, every December you see like just 1 to 2 percent of Nigerians abroad returning home to celebrate and spend money that most of them don't have, many have been saving and out of all the 100% abroad, only 2 percent even have such luxury of returning home to celebrate with their love ones. The remaining 98% simply cannot cough out the ticket money let alone money left to spend in Nigeria to rearrange themselves. I know many of them that have hooked up, they cannot cough out 2000 USD at any given time. Once you Japa, it is TRAP, if you manage to Japada and resettle in Nigeria. Those are the smartest ones. Those ones that hooked, omo you are OYO. plaetton: You probably did not watch the video to the end, I think you should buy Data first to watch the video to the end, he was trying to information about a Video of someone who left Nigeria, he had everything but left. Don't always attack the messenger, it is wrong when you do that. Do you know what people are going through? First of all any money made in these debt hole countries stays 100% in them. It is not built for you to work hard and make it. No no n No. It is built to scoop the most precious asset Africans have which is Time. Hard work can get you nowhere, but smart work does. You need to be able to use them interchangeably. Know when to apply smart work to get things done and hard work to get things done. You all talk about JOb, job, Job... OMG, you all have forgotten the African ways. This dead capitalist ideology has already taken so much from us. 5 Likes 3 Shares |
TheFreshVanilla: 12:28pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
Crap. The ones I know are either gainfully employed or doing well in their business. Just because it doesn't work for you or those you know, doesn't mean it won't work for others.
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motymop: 12:44pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
Nigerians are one of the dullest i have ever met online and this is not a diss but a reality. Do Nigerians realise that everybody expereince in life is different Did the guy in the video say he is unemployed or homeless The guy is narrating his own experience and world view Did he say, you shouldnt come to canada. Nigerians act like every Nigerian in canada are living in heaven while the reality is different. majority of Nigerians in canada are working in factories and doing normal immigrant jobs, they pay their bills and live a normal life. people have expereince to share, let them share it. |
Gerrard59(m): 12:49pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
dapoRead:This is true, but it also applies to all sorts of immigrants: most emigrated for economic reasons and any remainder. They settle there and seldomly visit their home countries. It is not a Nigerian or black person concept. There are whites in Singapore who live there for a long time but visit their home countries once in a while. Also, another factor is the reason the person relocated. Expecting diasporans to ALWAYS visit home is very unrealistic. 1 Like |
motymop: 1:11pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
TheFreshVanilla: This is the lies you guys always spread The ones you know are gainfully employed, the question should be, what type of jobs are they doing? and infact there nothing bad in doing low paid jobs as long as you are employed and pay tax, they are good. but what i dont understand is the exagerrated opinions of those who have never been to canada. Words like all the people you know are doing well words like all the people you know are all doing well in business Like how do you know that? are you there, do you know the type of jobs or business they are doing, do you have info about their salaries or revenue and profit in business.( nobody will tell you this info) doing well isnt about wearing winter jacket, head warmers or taking pic, it is in the lifestyle, do you have canadian qualifications, what is your type of job? what is your role in the job, is there career progression?, what are your salaries and tax bracket?, what area are you living in? where do you spend your holidays? Lets stop the exaggeration of achievement 3 Likes 2 Shares |
motymop: 1:14pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
Gerrard59: whataboutism. The discussion is about Nigerians and canada not white in singapore or black people. |
plaetton: 1:23pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
dapoRead:Nonsense. Japa, in the Nigerian context, means to leave this shythole failed nation to look for life opportunities abroad. And yes, most countries outside this shythole offer individuals more opportunities ( the key word here) to build a better life. The very fact that all Nigerians abroad, whether they are washing toilet for a living or on welfare, can still spare money to take care of relatives in Nigeria says it all. |
motymop: 1:33pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
Gerrard59: yeah! it is not necessarily country but a skill issue why don't you go to japan with your skills and make it. you have no idea about the language, so how do you expect to sell your skill in a country that speak no English and do not accept foreigners. what that white guy achieved in Japan, with only his Japanese degree is more than the achievements of many qualified blacks in japan especially those ones from Africa. many of the qualified africans will end up working in factories while the white guy with only a japanese degree will be their boss. I have seen this scenerio many times. On freelancing sites, a white or asian guy from china or japan will earn *10 more than an african with the same skills and qualification, that is how it also plays in real life. 1 Like 1 Share |
motymop: 1:37pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
plaetton: Do you also realise that there are also Nigerians sponsoring their relatives in Uk, canada and america. There are many Nigerians in nigeria also paying for school fees for those abroad. there are also Nigerians in Nigeria taking care of their own families abroad. |
TheFreshVanilla: 2:20pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
I just said the ones I know are doing well in the real sense of the word. You don't expect me to start mentioning their brilliant achievements on a public forum.
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Gerrard59(m): 2:43pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
motymop: There are countless Africans who have good jobs here based on their skills and backed with experience from their home countries. A few don't even speak Japanese at all. But they have good jobs. I am the one who works for a multinational company based on my skills from Nigeria and it is the white guy who is heading back to the US because he lacks the skills. In fact, an Indian who works for a tech company was in our midst - someone who just came in two months ago and does not understand a sentence in Japanese. But hey, he works for a tech company and got subsidised housing. The white guy lacks both. Skill issue, not country. All your talk about white being preferred takes the back seat when it comes to skills and making money. Capitalism is indifferent about the colour of one's skin provided the job can be done by a qualified person. many of the qualified africans will end up working in factories while the white guy with only a japanese degree will be their boss.To be honest, any African who works in factories either lacks the skills or the appropriate working visa. To even obtain the right work visa to work in factories, one has to speak Japanese. This means a Chinese or Vietnamese will oversee a white man. Here, your skills and language take you farther than just the language. The white guy complained about lacking the former while having just the latter. That was the point I was making. On freelancing sites, a white or asian guy from china or japan will earn *10 more than an african with the same skills and qualification, that is how it also plays in real life.Again, I have seen cases where skill oversees the colour of one's skin. My friend who works in Kyoto and lives very comfortably (poor Japanese proficiency) had the opportunity of getting a $100K per annum remote job while as a student but his lack of the appropriate visa (permanent residency/spousal visa) fumbled everything. Skills, not skin colour. 1 Like |
Gerrard59(m): 2:49pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
motymop:How is whataboutism when there are both immigrants in faraway countries? Are you implying no Nigerians are doing well (career-wise) in Canada? Although, Canada has an issue with country-specific qualifications and experience, but that applies to everyone. That said, the person I quoted wants Nigerian immigrants to visit home frequently whereas the term - immigrants - means they would likely domicile in their new countries, at least for a long period of time, rather than move back to their home countries. There are many Nigerians in the Atlanta area and Texas. How many times have they visited Nigeria? Does this mean those who don't do so are doing poorly? |
motymop: 3:51pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
Gerrard59: i never said there are no Nigerians doing well career wise in canada As far as i am concern, it is harder for Nigerians to move up the corporate world in Canada, yeah, there will be 1 or 2 Nigerians in high ranking positions in the corporate world and also in politics but events like that are exceptional cases, they rarely happen. The guy you quoted didnt say he wanted Nigerian immigrants to visit home frequently, he wrote about the affordabilty, that only 1-2% of Nigerians living abroad can afford to buy a ticket back home, he is actually correct. if we look at the bigger pictures, majority of Nigerians abroad are poor and average according to the standards of the country where they reside, less than 1% are doing well but these minority are the ones who make the news. it is just how things works everywhere. |
Gerrard59(m): 4:06pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
motymop:Nigerians started moving en-mass to Canada in less than a decade. Let's give it time compared to the Chinese or Indians. With the experiences of those two groups, let Nigerians band together to uplift themselves in the Canadian society. One is by being entrepreneurial - building sustainable businesses and owning properties. I was told by a colleague who lived in Canada that the Chinese control Vancouver in such a way that a child could grow up speaking only Chinese and working in Chinese-owned enterprises. So, Canada is very new compared to the UK with its long history of Nigerian migrants or the US, especially in the second generation. Compared to the Indians, we have performed poorly considering we speak English. This makes us different from the Chinese. The guy you quoted didnt say he wanted Nigerian immigrants to visit home frequently, he wrote about the affordabilty, that only 1-2% of Nigerians living abroad can afford to buy a ticket back home, he is actually correct.Or probably because they find other places worth visiting rather than Nigeria? There are no numbers to validate such a claim. To state such, we have to consider when these Nigerians emigrated, their residence statuses in their new countries and how long they have lived there. Also, and most importantly, the path through which they emigrated. If most emigrated via visit visa, then yes, they would perform poorly and wouldn't be able to afford to visit home. But again, we should compare to other groups of migrants, how many Indians, Chinese and Filipinos have the wherewithal to visit their home countries frequently? If the numbers are low, then it means immigrants don't bother to visit where they left off. if we look at the bigger pictures, majority of Nigerians abroad are poor and average according to the standards of the country where they reside, less than 1% are doing well but these minority are the ones who make the news.This depends on the country, when they migrated and the path of migration. The Canadian model pre-COVID selected Nigerians. The US' GRE/postgraduate model also selects Nigerians. Your narrative should be towards Nigerians in the UK rather than Canada. it is just how things works everywhere.So, it is not a Nigerian issue then. After all, the elite and upper-middle-class Nigerians are a minority in Nigeria. 1 Like |
motymop: 4:17pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
Gerrard59: With the way the Japanee society is organised, i find it hard to believe There are reasons is this, Japanese society so much seperate foreigners from natives, infact many places do not rent apartments to foreigners except if they live in areas where foreigners resides. A big survival skill as a foreigner in japan is speaking Japanese and the chance of you getting a job and not speaking Japanese is low. many foreigners and even americans work as English teachers and infact, they still prefer taking whites or even black americans over an Africa talkless of Nigerians with very bad reputation in Shinjuku and Roppingi. Whites espcially americans are preferrable in Japan, infact majority of the multinationals in japan all have links to american companies, so if you work in non traditional companies in Japan, you can be employed but not as paid as a white or japanese. You can hardly get any job in traditional japanese companies as a foreigner. Capitalism is also about skin colour and how cheap we can pay you and how high we can sell our product to consumers, isnt it why american and europeans companies move production to China and Indian, isnt it why American tech companies outsource everything to India. Cheap labour is the backbone of capitalism. In japan, you do not need japanese language or expereince to work in a Factory, it is one of the most easiest and low paid job to get as an African, nevertheless, you will still be paid lower than a japanese worker doing the same job as you. and lastly, your friend is not telling the truth, no one with years of expereince will believe your friend, a student in Japan got a $100K remote job, nobody will beleive him, even in the US, a $100k job are top earners in the 1% and you need years of expereince to get that talkless of a student. |
motymop: 4:42pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
Gerrard59: The reasons why Chinese and indians are successful in Canada, has a lot to do with their home country it is the same reason why the chinese and indians are successful in Nigeria. entrepreneuship is big in those countries, these guys bring their skills, cheap labour and wealth from their home country into canada. if it takes 10 years for a nigerian to build a business, it will take them less than 4 years because they employ families as employees, do shady stuffs like avoiding tax and also they do have strong ties back home. (in nigeria, we had similar stuff in faming communities, a farmers marries 10 wives, his 50 children end up working in the farm, making labour cheaper or free, this farmer will get rich very fast over another farmer with 1 wife and 2 children.) the example i gave is how wealth is created among generation of strong tied family in india and china. wealth is kept within the family. 2. Nigerians do not travel even if they imigrate, they only work and do the rat race. there are no luxury to travel to another country because they dont have the resources or they are too addicted to working. btw, travelling for holidays are damn expensive. 3, Many Chinese go home for holidays than nigerians, the chinese are always going home for chinese new year, infact many chinese are the number 1 tourists in many countries, they travel alot to china and outside China for tourism. Many Nigerians living abroad can not afford the luxury of travelling for holidays like the chinese do. 1 Like |
Gerrard59(m): 4:44pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
motymop:You don't live here. I do. As for the rest of your post, choose whatever to believe. If not for privacy purposes, I would have dropped the LinkedIn profiles of countless Africans who work for TRADITIONAL Japanese companies. You can take up the challenge if you wish to - LinkedIn should be accessible wherever you are. Experiences I live and people I have met and talk with na eim I wan lie with? Believe whatever you want to. My inner joy is that there are persons who know me off Nairaland, so I if lie, they would easily burst it. And lastly, your friend is not telling the truth, no one with years of expereince will believe your friend, a student in Japan got a $100K remote job, nobody will beleive him, even in the US, a $100k job are top earners in the 1% and you need years of expereince to get that talkless of a student.So my guy wey we live for the same dormitory, had a first class from a federal university and worked for two notable tech firms in Nigeria before getting the MEXT scholarship is lying? Offer wey I see? House for Kyoto wey I visit? Chai! I don suffer for Nairaland no be small I recall you were the one who doubted Tensa20 $10K per month earnings. Now, I see your disbelief. Anyway, Have a great day. 1 Like |
thesicilian: 5:30pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
Jokerman:Wrong |
tensazangetsu20(m): 5:31pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
Gerrard59: He’s an apc er that wishes all Nigerians abroad are suffering and doing low level jobs 😂😂😂😂. I work in a state bank on a student visa and also work remotely for an American automotive manufacturer. 😂😂 suck on my cock motymop 3 Likes |
LordIsaac(m): 6:00pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
okeysoninv:Leave them. If I hadn't travelled myself, I wouldn't have believed. ![]() |
motymop: 6:00pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
Gerrard59: i do not believe most of you because majority of you are liars. |
motymop: 6:02pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
tensazangetsu20: yeah indeed! you are in Chile and earning $10k every month you are also working for Chile central bank ![]() |
tensazangetsu20(m): 6:03pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
motymop: Yes o e shock you ba ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
motymop: 6:17pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
tensazangetsu20: it doesnt, i can also say i work for the CIA ![]() everybody online works for the Fbi, the fed reserve and the Mossad ![]() We are also senior programmers for the argentinian central bank you can be whatever you want online less i forgot, i am also bat man in gotham city ![]() |
Gerrard59(m): 8:26pm On Dec 15, 2024 |
tensazangetsu20:I should have known this ab initio. Na me fvck up! 1 Like |
2kurupt(m): 4:50am On Dec 16, 2024 |
tensazangetsu20: ![]() ![]() ![]() As in the guy's insistence to push the narrative that Nigerians abroad are suffering really weak me. So they must travel back home every other week to prove they're living well 😄😄😄 who does that?! For flight return ticket wey survival job 1 week pay sef fit cover |
ozoono(m): 9:37am On Dec 16, 2024 |
tensazangetsu20:U wicked I swear |
tensazangetsu20(m): 12:35pm On Dec 16, 2024 |
2kurupt: Like what’s there to even see in Nigeria |
maternal: 1:24pm On Dec 16, 2024 |
motymop: What is a normal immigrant job ? Either way, Nigerians came to Canada to pay their bills and live a normal life. The question is, why couldn't this drug addict do the same ? He's not even in Canada which blows my mind. |
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