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Why Is It That True Lagosian Always Bear A Foreign Or English Surname ? (3896 Views)

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ShadowCracker(m): 7:51pm On Mar 07, 2023
0monnak0da:


Wetin be

se aworawo
Simple question
What is special in se aworawo.

It is hard to directly translate it to English, it simply means "we will recognize one when we see one.".
ShadowCracker(m): 7:52pm On Mar 07, 2023
2mch:

That’s right. Eko Epe fled with Kosoko from Lagos Island during the wars. A lot did not come back and stayed in Epe in fear.
True but Epe Ijebu are thier owners.
christistruth01: 7:52pm On Mar 07, 2023
grin

The Awori Yorubas bear Yoruba names

The Slave returnees were settled and rehabiltated by the Awori Yorubas in Lagos and the Egbas of Abeokuta

Tnere are at least eight Yoruba Clans with Ancient Ancestral Lands in Lagos State
Awori with over 75% of Lagos,Ijebu,Ilaje Egba,Egbado, Oyo Owu Ketu

Egun who descended from Oduduwa through the O!upopo own Badagry

Please read this document written by Sir Alfred Moloney British Colonial Governor of Lagos written in 1890 start from the 4th paragraph

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0monnak0da: 7:53pm On Mar 07, 2023
ShadowCracker:

What is special in se aworawo.

It is hard to directly translate it to English, it simply means "we will recognize one when we see one.".
lol
It is Ijebu language
And if you are from Epe as you claim you will know
What you said is totally off point
2mch(m): 7:55pm On Mar 07, 2023
ShadowCracker:

True but Epe Ijebu are thier owners.
Epe does belong to Ijebu and Ilaje run the fishing there as well. Ilaje also sailed from Ondo to fish in Lagos. They run the rivers but Ijebu own the sea.

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Obaaderemi2: 8:08pm On Mar 07, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Both Idiko1 and laiperi are wrong.
All it took was ONE small Google search. He was fully a slave but not Nupe. He was Egba. See below
You are also wrong. Ajayi was Oyo, not Egba at all.

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Pwettylinda(f): 8:13pm On Mar 07, 2023
laiperi:
Most of them were not and have never been slaves. Ajayi Crowther ship was captured on the sea and returned before reaching slave plantation.

English or Portuguese names were not different from Muslim names given after they have been converted to Christianity or Islam.

It was a pride to have Christian or Muslim names throughout Africa. Christians and Muslims, foolishly, still take pride in it today as first or last names.

Most Yoruba know their Yoruba family name and more important, their ORIKI. Any Lagosian without ORIKI or Yoruba names is not from Lagos.

Na shit just full your brain

Otondo grin grin
Obaaderemi2: 8:14pm On Mar 07, 2023
PoliteActivist:


Why being deceptive. Why not post the article or link to it?? You are implying he denied his EXACT words as printed verbatim by the reputable Guardian newspaper, which is a lie.
Of course he never said Benin owned Lagos. You can go read what he said yourself.
Meanwhile here's the article you screenshot only the heading, but craftily neither linked nor posted!

https://www.timesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/252183-i-never-said-benin-owned-lagos-oba-akiolu.html
You just keep contradicting yourself. Aworis are Yoruba.

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ShadowCracker(m): 8:16pm On Mar 07, 2023
0monnak0da:
lol
It is Ijebu language
And if you are from Epe as you claim you will know
What you said is totally off point

What is it tell me nah, what me I know is it is mostly alawo and cult member say to mean when see each other we would recognise each other.
0monnak0da: 8:17pm On Mar 07, 2023
ShadowCracker:


What is it tell me nah, what me I know is it is mostly alawo and cult member say to mean when see each other we would recognise each other.
it you are Emeka from Awoamama first
ShadowCracker(m): 8:20pm On Mar 07, 2023
0monnak0da:

it you are Emeka from Awoamama first
cheesy cheesy You don't have anything to say.

Shay if I am not Emeka you will come and turn omo egirimeti to Emeka.
princemillla(m): 8:23pm On Mar 07, 2023
laiperi:
Most of them were not and have never been slaves. Ajayi Crowther ship was captured on the sea and returned before reaching slave plantation.

English or Portuguese names were not different from Muslim names given after they have been converted to Christianity or Islam.

It was a pride to have Christian or Muslim names throughout Africa. Christians and Muslims, foolishly, still take pride in it today as first or last names.

Most Yoruba know their Yoruba family name and more important, their ORIKI. Any Lagosian without ORIKI or Yoruba names is not from Lagos.


How many original indigenous people of Lagos state has oriki. Except the few ones. Mostly the Aworis. The Lagos island family mostly don’t. And

Op most of the foreign names are those who were returned from the slave trade.
0monnak0da: 8:23pm On Mar 07, 2023
ShadowCracker:

cheesy cheesy You don't have anything to say.

Shay if I am not Emeka you will come and turn omo egirimeti to Emeka.

I know your monikers
ShadowCracker(m): 8:24pm On Mar 07, 2023
0monnak0da:

I know your monikers
Name them cheesy
0monnak0da: 8:27pm On Mar 07, 2023
ShadowCracker:

Name them cheesy
when the time is right
ElSudani: 8:29pm On Mar 07, 2023
VeryWickedGoat:
This is why we say Lagos is a no-man's land because the true Lagosians are not even pure Nigerians.

Lagosians are slaves that returned or escaped from Brazil, Jamaica, Benin, Togo, Liberia & co. Some of these slaves are even Igbo, Calabar, Benin, Ijaw slaves that were transported via Badagry. Their names are mostly Portuguese or English like Pedro, Rhodes, Williams, Campos, Bucknor & co.



Tinubu, Obanikoro, Sanwo-Olu and co are typical Osogbo names!!

So, in your warped estimation those returnee met a barren land devoid of people in Lagos? Who were the people the Portuguese met in Lagos when the Europeans first landed there?
Is it the Rhodes-Vivours or the Williams or whatever foreign name?
Before slavery Lagos traded with the Europeans especially the Portuguese.
I am not trying to say one Lagosian is more important than the other just trying to educate you on the facts. We will not subscribe to your type of divisive and destructive politics. The type which rendered your homeland uninhabitable.

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drlateef: 8:29pm On Mar 07, 2023
KGD10:


Yoruba should take pride in their culture and stop bearing English or Arabic name!



Yes we do, we still bear yoruba names with arabic names. Thats in 100% of yorubas i know.
ShadowCracker(m): 8:33pm On Mar 07, 2023
0monnak0da:
when the time is right
Hahaha OK when the time is right you will also tell me the special meaning in Se aworawo.
Saao(m): 8:35pm On Mar 07, 2023
Legendguy:
Just like Gbadebo Rhodes Vivour that contesting for governor of Lagos, Funsho Doherty also running for governor of Lagos bears an English surname.
Former lagos governorship candidate, Funsho Williams bears an English surname, compared to typical yorubas from south west hinterlands that bears their native surname.
Is there a reason for true lagosians to bear foreign surnames while making their first name yoruba name?

but that of Vivour is different. It simply means Survivor. He is one of the Lucky slaves that survive and was returned alive so he bore the name vivour that's Survivor.
Gaabasky: 8:40pm On Mar 07, 2023
Legendguy:
Just like Gbadebo Rhodes Vivour that contesting for governor of Lagos, Funsho Doherty also running for governor of Lagos bears an English surname.
Former lagos governorship candidate, Funsho Williams bears an English surname, compared to typical yorubas from south west hinterlands that bears their native surname.
Is there a reason for true lagosians to bear foreign surnames while making their first name yoruba name?

Lagos State origin is a diverse one. There are pure Egun, Badagry, Awori, Ijebus n Brazilian ones and returning slaves from Carribean n Siera Loneans. So Rhodes u are referring to may likely be Brazilian or returned slaves origin.

Ttalk: 8:45pm On Mar 07, 2023
ShadowCracker:

Lol who be Emeka.


Our tell us your oriki. Omo nna
PoliteActivist: 9:01pm On Mar 07, 2023
Obaaderemi2:
You are also wrong. Ajayi was Oyo, not Egba at all.

He is Egba from Osogun in Oyo state. It is settled fact all over the internet. See below

KGD10: 9:01pm On Mar 07, 2023
drlateef:




Yes we do, we still bear yoruba names with arabic names. Thats in 100% of yorubas i know.

I don't have a problem with Arabic or English Christian names but It should rather be the second or third name, not the First name or surnames!
ShadowCracker(m): 9:18pm On Mar 07, 2023
Ttalk:



Our tell us your oriki. Omo nna
Ode ni e, are you from Epe, if I tell you my oriki can you recognise it, arindin agolugo.
Alsenora: 9:25pm On Mar 07, 2023
You are spot on bro. Misconceptions written all over the page would have been averted if History had been returned to Nigerian school curriculum and made compulsory...Young Ajayi Crowther was captured in the then Oyo town of Oshogun and not from Nupe someone ascribed on the page.. .
ElSudani:


So, in your warped estimation those returnee met a barren land devoid of people in Lagos? Who were the people the Portuguese met in Lagos when the Europeans first landed there?
Is it the Rhodes-Vivours or the Williams or whatever foreign name?
Before slavery Lagos traded with the Europeans especially the Portuguese.
I am not trying to say one Lagosian is more important than the other just trying to educate you on the facts. We will not subscribe to your type of divisive and destructive politics. The type which rendered your homeland uninhabitable.
PoliteActivist: 9:47pm On Mar 07, 2023
Obaaderemi2:
You just keep contradicting yourself. Aworis are Yoruba.

(I only posted what's in print. How can I be contradicting myself??)

The king said the Aworis are Bini (see below)

But that's not even the issue. He said Lagos is NOT part of Yoruba land

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