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When people are foolish but they want to hide their foolishness they will say:

"All of us are wise in different ways"

But then they keep disturbing others even though they've concluded that everyone is wise.

How can someone open about 30 threads over just one group of people yet claiming that wisdom is relative?

In case you have forgotten Max.

On the 20th of February 2022, I created this thread - https://nairaland.macsoftware.info/6994962/witnesses-jehovah-documentary

As usual, you jumped on the thread to defend your CULT and I asked you these three questions -

oteneaaron:


That is why there is something called counter-research.

I have put it to you that it is a FACT that the life and story of Jesus in the Bible is not unique.

It is a cheap copy of the life and story of similar God-men from cultures thousands of years older than the Bible.

The best you can you do is show me proof from your extensive research that shows that -

1. Jesus really existed and is not a Mythical Figure,

2. Jesus really existed based on archeological findings, and

3. The teachings of Jesus is original and not copied from HORUS of ancient Egypt and many other Christ figures like Dionysus, Bacchus, Mythiras but to mention a few.

I guess we can start from there.

Show me your well researched proof, and I will show you mine.

Can we do that instead of going back and forth with the name calling?

What do you think?

And this was your reply -

MaxInDHouse:


I love this challenge but before we proceed i want you to rephrase your questions.

Please address your questions to all those claiming CHRISTIANS so that only those coming to speak for Jesus will be known as true believers in Christ.

“Everyone, then, who acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father who is in the heavens. But whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 10:32-33


Or

Rephrase your questions and specifically say "this is a challenge for Christians"
Romans 10:9

Thanks in advance!

This was my counter reply -

oteneaaron:


Lol.

Why are you looking for external ?

Are you doing this research for anyone else?

For me to agree to a change in the of this challenge, we might have to create a new thread to address this square.

But I directed this challenge at YOU.

Come to think of it, why are you involving other "Christians"?

I thought you have always called them common church goers, and have on countless occasions insulted them for their belief in a trinity?

Why do you need their in this instance?

I would like to understand why before agreeing to these new .

Ọmọ sonmvayina doesn't wait a second before denouncing Jesus anytime, anywhere and before anybody.
So instead of hiding behind the crowd come out openly and tell everyone you meet on this forum what you think about Jesus of Nazareth.
Them no fit flog you!

oteneaaron:
In case you have forgotten Max.

On the 20th of February 2022, I created this thread - https://nairaland.macsoftware.info/6994962/witnesses-jehovah-documentary

As usual, you jumped on the thread to defend your CULT and I asked you these three questions -



That is why there is something called counter-research.

I have put it to you that it is a FACT that the life and story of Jesus in the Bible is not unique.

It is a cheap copy of the life and story of similar God-men from cultures thousands of years older than the Bible.

The best you can you do is show me proof from your extensive research that shows that -

1. Jesus really existed and is not a Mythical Figure,

2. Jesus really existed based on archeological findings, and

3. The teachings of Jesus is original and not copied from HORUS of ancient Egypt and many other Christ figures like Dionysus, Bacchus, Mythiras but to mention a few.

I guess we can start from there.

Show me your well researched proof, and I will show you mine.

Can we do that instead of going back and forth with the name calling?

What do you think?



This was your reply -



I love this challenge but before we proceed i want you to rephrase your questions.

Please address your questions to all those claiming CHRISTIANS so that only those coming to speak for Jesus will be known as true believers in Christ.

“Everyone, then, who acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father who is in the heavens. But whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 10:32-33


Or

Rephrase your questions and specifically say "this is a challenge for Christians"
Romans 10:9

Thanks in advance!



This was my counter reply -



Lol.

Why are you looking for external ?

Are you doing this research for anyone else?

For me to agree to a change in the of this challenge, we might have to create a new thread to address this square.

But I directed this challenge at YOU.

Come to think of it, why are you involving other "Christians"?

I thought you have always called them common church goers, and have on countless occasions insulted them for their belief in a trinity?

Why do you need their in this instance?

I would like to understand why before agreeing to these new .

MaxInDHouse have you forgotten when you said this?

MaxInDHouse:



I want you to acknowledge that only true Christians can prove that Jesus is real!
Others are CHURCHGOERS with nothing apart from credulous ideologies!

This was my reply to you -

oteneaaron:


Let's focus here then.

No need creating a new thread.

Since you are a "true Christian", kindly answer the three questions I asked above with proof.

Thank you.

What was your response?

MaxInDHouse:


NO!
I want this to be trashed on a new thread since it's not the topic we are discussing here.
If truthfully you want this challenge just open a new thread and let the topic be.

"Is Jesus real? Challenge for a Christian (MaxInDHouse)"

I want all critics of Jehovah's Witnesses to be ashamed today, ṣebí they're always coming to argue with us regarding Jesus Christ!

I tried to talk you out of creating a new thread -

oteneaaron:


Hahahaha

Does it really matter if it is on a new thread?

No matter where it is, people will find it.

But you insisted by saying -

MaxInDHouse:


You're not ready for this challenge, are you?

Which is what led to this thread - https://nairaland.macsoftware.info/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

So MaxInDHouse, how have I been disturbing you?

Why don't explain this for everyone to see?

oteneaaron:
So MaxInDHouse, how have I been disturbing you?

Why don't explain this for everyone to see?

the guy will lie again

You don't want to accept the evidence Jesus himself gave you now so there's no reason wasting time with you!

oteneaaron:

MaxInDHouse have you forgotten when you said this?
This was my reply to you -
What was your response?
I tried to talk you out of creating a new thread But you insisted by saying -
Which is what led to this thread - https://nairaland.macsoftware.info/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

oteneaaron:

So MaxInDHouse, how have I been disturbing you? Why don't explain this for everyone to see?

MaxInDHouse:
You don't want to accept the evidence Jesus himself gave you now so there's no reason wasting time with you!

Lol

Such shame.

😁😁

Templee333:
the guy will lie again

As in ehn.

Too much falsehood for a single person.

It is quite a shame really.

oteneaaron:

Lol
Such shame.
😁😁

Yeah shame on faithless people!

MaxInDHouse:

Yeah shame on faithless people!

Just like wisdom, faith is also relative.

You have no right to call another man "faithless"

But I'm sure you know this already and you're simply grasping at straws.

🤐🤐🤐

oteneaaron:

Just like wisdom, faith is also relative.
You have no right to call another man "faithless"
But I'm sure you know this already and you're simply grasping at straws. 🤐🤐🤐

FAITH is the assured expectations of what is hoped for the evident demonstration of realities though not seen. Hebrews 11:1

So if you can't work together with any group of people to prove your faith then you are faithless or let's put it the way God's word puts it: your faith is DEAD! James 2:18-26

Today we hear of many people working to achieve something but if no one s another then how will their efforts yield positive results?
So prove your faith by presenting the group of people having the same faith as you do so that everyone can examine what you have through the results of your group action.
In the absence of that ọmọ you're faithless!

Do Jw pay your ? Cause it's like all your are well to do.

2. Can none marry your ladies?
3 can a christian become your member?

Tonytonex:

Do Jw pay your ? Cause it's like all your are well to do.
2. Can none marry your ladies?
3 can a christian become your member?

[1] NO and YES!
If you say "pay" in Nigeria it means two things:
1 it may be that someone is directly paid for the job he or she is doing this is the perception of people everywhere.
2 it may be that someone is always there to cover your back so that you won't be in need of anything that's necessary. Psalms 23:1
As for the first setting i will say NO but as for the second it's YES!


[2] That's impossible because when a person is baptized among JWs he or she must live by the rules which is "marry only in the faith" {1Corinthians 7:39} you may have heard of Serena Williams that she's a witness well she never became one of us until she's baptized that's why she could marry outside the organization had it been she has been baptized she can't marry a none witness because everyone will turn against such a decision!

[3] You are not even a Christian if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses so whatever you've been doing out there has nothing to do with real faith in Christ Jesus.

Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:


[1] NO and YES!
If you say "pay" in Nigeria it means two things:
1 it may be that someone is directly paid for the job he or she is doing this is the perception of people everywhere.
2 it may be that someone is always there to cover your back so that you won't be in need of anything that's necessary. Psalms 23:1
As for the first setting i will say NO but as for the second it's YES!


[2] That's impossible because when a person is baptized among JWs he or she must live by the rules which is "marry only in the faith" {1Corinthians 7:39} you may have heard of Serena Williams that she's a witness well she never became one of us until she's baptized that's why she could marry outside the organization had it been she has been baptized she can't marry a none witness because everyone will turn against such a decision!

[3] You are not even a Christian if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses so whatever you've been doing out there has nothing to do with real faith in Christ Jesus.

Thanks, God bless you and may you have PEACE!

I want to ask you a question concerning the 3rd answer you gave.....My question is...can you tell me or quote a verse from the bible where it was written that a person is not a Christian if he/she is not JW member.?

The early Christians just like the Jews believed in Jehovah but not belong to an assembly or organization called Jehovah witness that started hundreds of years after Christ... Don't you think the Bible called them christians because they behaved n imitate Christ and not JW member?

zoer:


I want to ask you a question concerning the 3rd answer you gave.....My question is...can you tell me or quote a verse from the bible where it was written that a person is not a Christian if he/she is not JW member.?

The early Christians just like the Jews believed in Jehovah but not belong to an assembly or organization called Jehovah witness that started hundreds of years after Christ... Don't you think the Bible called them christians because they behaved n imitate Christ and not JW member?

Bravo!

You must be a critical thinker.

Your question is thought provoking.

zoer:

I want to ask you a question concerning the 3rd answer you gave.....My question is...can you tell me or quote a verse from the bible where it was written that a person is not a Christian if he/she is not JW member.?
The early Christians just like the Jews believed in Jehovah but not belong to an assembly or organization called Jehovah witness that started hundreds of years after Christ... Don't you think the Bible called them christians because they behaved n imitate Christ and not JW member?

The group name "CHRISTIANS" was borrowed from the inhabitants of Antioch who observed the way Jesus' disciples conducted themselves publicly preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom just as Jesus the man who claimed he is CHRIST did in his lifetime! Act 11:26

God's people from Abel till John the baptist aren't followers of Christ so the group name (CHRISTIAN) doesn't go for them because a Christian must be one who practices everything Jesus taught not just someone who have faith that God exists.

For thousands of years God hid the name He had in mind for all His worshipers from Abel till today until the year 1931.
Most of God's servants including C.T Russell whom many thought is the founder of this group never knew that group name in their life time.

It was after Satan's agents have taken up the borrowed name CHRISTIANS and profaned it with killings here and there for politics that God began calling His own worshipers by another name which is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

So had it been that God declared it openly for everyone even the masquerade in our village will also call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses! Isaiah 43:10-12

MaxInDHouse:


FAITH is the assured expectations of what is hoped for the evident demonstration of realities though not seen. Hebrews 11:1

So if you can't work together with any group of people to prove your faith then you are faithless or let's put it the way God's word puts it: your faith is DEAD! James 2:18-26

Today we hear of many people working to achieve something but if no one s another then how will their efforts yield positive results?

So prove your faith by presenting the group of people having the same faith as you do so that everyone can examine what you have through the results of your group action.

In the absence of that ọmọ you're faithless!

You keep looking for group action.

Let me school you a little bit.

I have told you countless times that faith is relative.

I don't need to be a member of any group or religious CULT like yours to have "faith".

Even the dictionary has 3 different definitions of the word "faith"

Noun

faith

1. A trust or confidence in the intentions or abilities of a person, object, or ideal from prior empirical evidence.

2. The process of forming or understanding abstractions, ideas, or beliefs, without empirical evidence, experience, or observation.

3. A religious or spiritual belief system.

As you also clearly defined above, "faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for.."

I still repeat, "faith" is relative and I don't need to be a member of any group or religious CULT like yours to have "faith".

You can take that information to the bank and deposit it.

You're welcome.

oteneaaron:

You keep looking for group action.
Let me school you a little bit.
I have told you countless times that faith is relative.
I don't need to be a member of any group or religious CULT like yours to have "faith".
Even the dictionary has 3 different definitions of the word "faith"
As you also clearly defined above, "faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for.."
I still repeat, "faith" is relative and I don't need to be a member of any group or religious CULT like yours to have "faith".
You can take that information to the bank and deposit it.
You're welcome.

Your dictionary definition tried but in the absence of cooperation to work towards the same goal then your faith is DEAD.
Perhaps you don't know why you're always arguing here well it's because you want others to agree with you!

MaxInDHouse:


Your dictionary definition tried but in the absence of cooperation to work towards the same goal then your faith is DEAD.

I still repeat incase you didn't hear me - I don't need to be a member of any group or religious CULT like yours to have "faith"

Perhaps you don't know why you're always arguing here well it's because you want others to agree with you!

Another falsehood spotted.

How I am always always arguing on NL?

Anyone can check all your post on Nairaland and compare it to mine, and they will see clearly that you live and breathe to argue on Nairaland.

Everybody knows your modus operandi -

- beat around the bush,

- insult and call people names, and

- run away when you have no response.

I don't need anybody on Nairaland to agree with me on anything.

I only share information that requires people who think critically to make their own decisions.

Can you say the same thing about yourself?

oteneaaron:

I still repeat incase you didn't hear me - I don't need to be a member of any group or religious CULT like yours to have "faith"
Another falsehood spotted.
How I am always always arguing on NL?

Ọmọ i'm here in search of our kind {Matthew 10:6} that means whenever i find someone who wants to know God i introduce myself and the message i have.
It's when i found out that you're not our kind that i take my leave since it's not about winning arguments that won't yield positive results.

oteneaaron:

Anyone can check all your post on Nairaland and compare it to mine, and they will see clearly that you live and breathe to argue on Nairaland. Everybody knows your modus operandi -
- beat around the bush,
- insult and call people names, and
- run away when you have no response.
I don't need anybody on Nairaland to agree with me on anything.
I only share information that requires people who think critically to make their own decisions.
Can you say the same thing about yourself?

The highlighted is exactly what makes you faithless {James 2:18-26} because true faith must carry others along working towards something that's REAL! Hebrews 11:1
So if you're of the opinion that each person could just develop his or her own idea and work on it then the man in your street is OK!

What are the key elements of JW?....I asked to learn.

Do JW believe that Jesus died physically but resurrected spiritually...so if so where are the remains of Christ dead body and we were told that his tomb was empty.

zoer:

Do JW believe that Jesus died physically but resurrected spiritually..
.

1 Peter 3:18
".... Christ died in the physical realm and was made alive in the spiritual realm". Bible truth.
No Maggi,no spices.

zoer:

so if so where are the remains of Christ dead body and we were told that his tomb was empty.

. Hebrews 10:10, NLT: [/b]For God's will was for us to be made holy by [b]the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ, once for all time."

The body of Christ was a sacrifice for man's sin and it can't remain in the grave as other dead bodies.

zoer:
What are the key elements of JW?....I asked to learn.

Please, what do you understand by "key elements?"

zoer:

Do JW believe that Jesus died physically but resurrected spiritually...so if so where are the remains of Christ dead body and we were told that his tomb was empty.

Jesus is the firstborn from the dead {Revelations 1:5} his set will all be raised as immortal spirit beings to heaven so they no longer have anything to do with physical bodies {1Corinthians 15:44} all of them will be raised not in physical bodies.

The body with which Jesus dead has been taken away by the angels found at his tomb.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ sonmvayina doesn't wait a second before denouncing Jesus anytime, anywhere and before anybody.
So instead of hiding behind the crowd come out openly and tell everyone you meet on this forum what you think about Jesus of Nazareth.
Them no fit flog you!

Was this for me ...or somebody else?

MaxInDHouse:




Shame on you and all your friends claiming CHRISTIANS as you can't answer the question.

For your information there is no way you can be wise if you're not a believer in Christ Jesus because he is the most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6} so a disciple of Christ even though 10 years of age is a million times wiser than you and your cohorts who disbelieve the Christ!

How many times have I told you that Isaiah 9:6 is reverencing Hezekiah?

You just don't want to grow up..


Peter Pan.

sonmvayina:

Was this for me ...or somebody else?

It's not for you!

sonmvayina:

How many times have I told you that Isaiah 9:6 is reverencing Hezekiah?
You just don't want to grow up.. Peter Pan.

According to you but to me it's talking about Jesus of Nazareth àbí you believe Hezekiah is a mighty God?

MaxInDHouse:


It's not for you!



According to you but to me it's talking about Jesus of Nazareth àbí you believe Hezekiah is a mighty God?

That is the translation of his name..

Hezekiah means "mighty God"..

sonmvayina:

That is the translation of his name..
Hezekiah means "mighty God"..

Funny atheist!

So he will also be called wonderful counselor, everlasting father and prince of peace in whose government peace will not end. Isaiah 9:6-7

Ọmọ shine your eyes o, this is Maximus not your usual misinformed Churchgoers o!

MaxInDHouse:


Funny atheist!

So he will also be called wonderful counselor, everlasting father and prince of peace in whose government peace will not end. Isaiah 9:6-7

Ọmọ shine your eyes o, this is Maximus not your usual misinformed Churchgoers o!

Hahahaha...

No, your not misinformed church goer..

You are just dull..

It is talking about future king Hezekiah..

Just continue reading the chapter and see if it applied to jesus...

You just took a text out of context and ran away with it....and you say you are not miss informed...No your not, you are just dull..