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I have had people ask me this question a few times, "is God partial, is He unfair?" In these people's defence they had great points and examples to show or state that God was been unfair.

I myself I have thought the same way a few times but often told myself there are things beyond my reasoning and certain things I just couldn't see or perceive to be able to adjudge if something was unfair, and to be frank that's basically why we can't easily say or judge that something is unfair, because it's all from our own point of view. A view that is limited to what we see or feel.

When God selects who to heal, do a miracle for, use, elevate or save, what are the criterias and do all these people meet the "criterias" we know? Because there's always something we don't know, and it explains the skepticism of those who disbelieve those who say there's God or that God healed them or heard their prayer, or the envy or hatred towards those who get what other have sort for so long. Cain killed Abel, Esau tried to kill Jacob, both were rejected by God and they hated it. Did they ever think just maybe the other person deserves it better or they themselves did something to be rejected. Did they ever think to learn how to gain such favor or it they maybe they deserve something else other than what others have? Something we may be rejected for one thing but accepted for another thing, our "favor" may just lay somewhere else.

Do the people who are selected for these "special" things feel "God is unfair"? Or is that just a thought that comes into the mind of those who feel rejected?

Does the moon feel bad that it doesn't shine in the day or the sun that it's greatest doesn't reach the night? Do the stars feel left out because they are too far away to rule either day or night? Do they consider their un purpose as insignificant, just a mere symbol of times?

Have you ever thought, "God you are unfair". Abraham believed God is just and won't punish the righteous with the unrighteous. And God did give the city and opportunity, right? But they came to hurt strangers who visited them.

Imagine a woman who believes she has served God all her life, never slept with any man but still not married and approaching 40, or a woman who got married a virgin and at 50 not a single child nor a missed period, but her husband or other woman have more children they can handle. Or a man who has worked diligently and faithfully all his life, yet without the value or respect that he believes he deserves.

You reading this may not feel that God is unfair, maybe because your life is great or you have all you want, well not everything, but most of it. Or you may be reading this, thinking to yourself, God is absolutely not fair, I have served faithfully for so many years, yet what is my reward, what is my gain.

So I reflect a bit on this, and I recall certains things. Paul was Saul and I am sure there were many devote believers, yet a man who did so much wrong was selected, Jesus appeared to him, and he did great and mighty things. Cain and Abel both brought offerings, Esau and Jacob were both blood brothers, yet one was chosen and the other was not.

Is there a way to truly understand why God does what he does or whom God would choose? Have you ever tried to understand or just conclude, "God is unfair"?

Because if the biggest question is not about miracles, healing, wealth or elevation but about salvation, what happens to working out a salvation that may just be given to whom ever God wishes. If God is unfair then your next thought that been good isn't worth it may take root in you, don't you agree?

I recall a question in children department, if God already knows the future and those who will go to hell, what's the point of all of this? I believe that those who perish may be beyond redemption and none that is good would perish, no matter what their present life looks like. So I decided to try to be good not because of heaven or hell, but because it's worth it "being good" and heaven & hell is a future thing, there's enough to do in a today we barely control speak less of tomorrow. If I get there lucky me, if I don't, well I lived a life that was worth it I guess. They told us as kids God is love but I asked why would he send a kid to hell for picking up a Biro or coming late to church, for simple mistakes, I refused to believe that the Lord God who is love would send someone to hell just because they don't know His name. So in a way maybe I wasn't thought about the real God who is love but about a selfish man trying to play God, but the real God should be kind, loving because he is too powerful to be hurt by anybody. Well that's as a child, lol.

Even if God is fair, would those rejected see it that way? It all still boils down to how each person sees it.

Even if God is unfair what can we do about it? Sue him? Lol, we can't sue a rich uncle that fails us much less a being greater than all living things if you feel ignored by him. Lol you don't even know where He is to begin with, do you? No matter how angry we get at God, what does it change? Can you beat God, whether you believe he exists or not. I believe the idea of God is important for we humans to have, it's even more important if it's real because it helps us consider to do the right thing even when we don't want to.

Who is God? Is He unfair?

His shows mercy to whom He shows mercy to. Why Peter and not Judas? Why you and not them?

If you are favored by God would you be hated by those who ain't? Like Joseph's brothers. The Pharisees probably hated Jesus for the same reason, they believed they were righteous yet this nobody who hasn't learnt from anybody, could pray and God would answer, why? Whose authority? And then God choose ordinary folks for disciples, what about the priests?

So is God unfair? My answer God is fair, why? Well, would you want to provoke God to become unfair to you? Right now I am not sure how to answer or convince anyone that God is fair or not. I doubt our personal opinion about him is sufficient to provoke Him, but our wickedness to others might just do that. I just believe God is free to do whatever He wants to whom ever He wants to do it to, and He searches the hearts of men something we do not see, He knows our pasts and our future, something we also do not see, we may not consider why God isn't doing for us what we want, but let's consider that only the prayers of the righteous prevail and the righteous are those whom God view as righteous.

So she may be a prostitute to you, be may be a drug dealer or whatever you think you see or know about them, but they may have a past that speaks favorably for them, a heart far kinder than yours, and even a future where they pay back all the mistakes they have made.

P.S don't mind the mistakes in this post, just thought to share my thoughts with someone, thanks for reading

My dear friend. The mysteries of God, is better left unsaid. But diligently seeking the truth, even true misery, the universe will open up hidden truths about your quest.
Right now, you are on a need to know basis, that you don't need to know.
But I pray the Angel of your destiny, will see you through.

My dear friend. The mysteries of God, is better left unsaid. But diligently seeking the truth, even through misery, the universe will open up hidden truths about your quest.
Right now, you are on a need to know basis, that you don't need to know.
But I pray the Angel of your destiny, will see you through.




Apostle Paul Eshiet

God is a title not a person, so I think you are talking about the Israelite god cum the Christian god, Yahweh.

Read my post on SPIRITUALITY vs RELIGIOSITY
Or more still, for a matured discussion on the subject, call me. Thanks

apstpaulg:
Read my post on SPIRITUALITY vs RELIGIOSITY
Or more still, for a matured discussion on the subject, call me. Thanks

Do you know the origin of the word “spiritual” and “religion”?
Just saying bogus words to make yourself feel better.

apstpaulg:
1. My dear friend. The mysteries of God, is better left unsaid. But diligently seeking the truth, even true misery, the universe will open up hidden truths about your quest.
2. Right now, you are on a need to know basis, that you don't need to know.

3. But I pray the Angel of your destiny, will see you through.

1. You contradict yourself there. Should these so-called mysteries be left unknown or should one seek understanding of even that which is a mystery about God's Kingdom?

2. How did you come to the conclusion that he is what you refer to as a need-to-know basis?

3. And who the heck is an angel of destiny? Where is this idea expressed in Scripture to you and what has it to do with Jesus Christ and His Gospel to you?

gohf:
1. When God selects who to heal, do a miracle for, use, elevate or save, what are the criterias and do all these people meet the "criterias" we know? Because there's always something we don't know, and it explains the skepticism of those who disbelieve those who say there's God or that God healed them or heard their prayer, or the envy or hatred towards those who get what other have sort for so long.

2. Cain killed Abel, Esau tried to kill Jacob, both were rejected by God and they hated it. Did they ever think just maybe the other person deserves it better or they themselves did something to be rejected. Did they ever think to learn how to gain such favor or it they maybe they deserve something else other than what others have?

3. Something we may be rejected for one thing but accepted for another thing, our "favor" may just lay somewhere else. Do the people who are selected for these "special" things feel "God is unfair"? Or is that just a thought that comes into the mind of those who feel rejected?

Does the moon feel bad that it doesn't shine in the day or the sun that it's greatest doesn't reach the night? Do the stars feel left out because they are too far away to rule either day or night? Do they consider their un purpose as insignificant, just a mere symbol of times? Have you ever thought, "God you are unfair". Abraham believed God is just and won't punish the righteous with the unrighteous. And God did give the city and opportunity, right? But they came to hurt strangers who visited them.

4. Imagine a woman who believes she has served God all her life, never slept with any man but still not married and approaching 40, or a woman who got married a virgin and at 50 not a single child nor a missed period, but her husband or other woman have more children they can handle. Or a man who has worked diligently and faithfully all his life, yet without the value or respect that he believes he deserves.

1. So what you, OP, are insinuating here is that when Jesus Christ healed the sick, He only healed some and not all those who came to Him for healing?

2. What has the ways of men to do with God's Way of dealing with men?

3. Did Jesus Christ teach you anywhere in His Gospel that this idea of "favor" you cling to exists in what is the Kingdom of God of which He gave you His Law and Gospel to abide by?

4. You would have to ask her what God she believed she was serving.... the god of the doctrines and traditions of men or Jesus Christ who instead came to save her from the curse that is laboring for the things the treasures of this world?

Kobojunkie:
1. So what you, OP, are insinuating here is that when Jesus Christ healed the sick, He only healed some and not all those who came to Him for healing?

2. What has the ways of men to do with God's Way of dealing with men?

3. Did Jesus Christ teach you anywhere in His Gospel that this idea of "favor" you cling to exists in what is the Kingdom of God of which He gave you His Law and Gospel to abide by?

4. You would have to ask her what God she believed she was serving.... the god of the doctrines and traditions of men or Jesus Christ who instead came to save her from the curse that is laboring for the things the treasures of this world?

How was number 1 insinuated?

And why not answer number 2 as well?

What idea of favor are you talking about?

apstpaulg:
My dear friend. The mysteries of God, is better left unsaid. But diligently seeking the truth, even true misery, the universe will open up hidden truths about your quest.
Right now, you are on a need to know basis, that you don't need to know.
But I pray the Angel of your destiny, will see you through.

what are you even going on about

Maynnmann:
God is a title not a person, so I think you are talking about the Israelite god cum the Christian god, Yahweh.

then Jehovah is who?

apstpaulg:
Read my post on SPIRITUALITY vs RELIGIOSITY
Or more still, for a matured discussion on the subject, call me. Thanks

you said call but you didn't leave your number. Why don't we discuss it here?

gohf:
then Jehovah is who?

“Jehovah” is a foreign name in the hebrew bible, you have to ask william tyndale who created king james VERSION for that, what’s surprising is that william tyndale is also a “jehovah witness”.
I heard he got the name “jehovah” from a monk.

Maynnmann:


“Jehovah” is a foreign name in the hebrew bible, you have to ask william tyndale who created king james VERSION for that, what’s surprising is that william tyndale is also a “jehovah witness”.

then Jesus is what?

gohf:
then Jesus is what?

A common latin name for male.

Maynnmann:


A common latin name for male.

hmm, really, okay. And your point is?

gohf:
hmm, really, okay. And your point is?

Read what i said again to find the point.

Maynnmann:


Read what i said again to find the point.

I didn't dispute that God isn't a title, I didn't even call his name Yahweh, but you brought so many things up that's why I am asking you... What is your point state is clearly


I do know God's name is written as YHVH in the Torah, but what does that have to do with this thread and what you wrote?

gohf:
I didn't dispute that God isn't a title, I didn't even call his name Yahweh, but you brought so many things up that's why I am asking you... What is your point state is clearly


I do know God's name is written as YHVH in the Torah, but what does that have to do with this thread and what you wrote?

It’s written as “YHWH” of shasu tribe.
Torah is just the first 5 books of the tanakh which Christians call “Old Testament”

Maynnmann:


It’s written as “YHWH” of shasu tribe.
Torah is just the first 5 books of the tanakh which Christians call “Old Testament”

be it vav or Waw, even the Torah or old testament doesn't deny that he is a God of war, as one of his many attributes.

And it never said He is the God of only Israel.


Now I ask again, what are you driving at?

gohf:
be it vav or Waw, even the Torah or old testament doesn't deny that he is a God of war, as one of his many attributes.

And it never said He is the God of only Israel.


Now I ask again, what are you driving at?

He is a foreign god from egypt and yes the tanahk said he was only god of israelite..

Maynnmann:


He is a foreign god from egypt and yes the tanahk said he was only god of israelite..

Only God if Israel and God of only Israel, are not the same thing?

What is your point?

gohf:

Only God if Israel and God of only Israel, are not the same thing?

What is your point?

Israel was given to his as a inheritance from his father, elohim.

Defending middle east gods with such vigour

Maynnmann:


Israel was given to his as a inheritance from his father, elohim.

Defending middle east gods with such vigour

who?

gohf:
who?

The torah which is just the first book of tanahk said it, you may not find it in the version you are using by Wwilliam tyndale.

Yahweh also had a mother which later became his wife, asheera.

Maynnmann:


The torah which is just the first book of tanahk said it, you may not find it in the version you are using by Wwilliam tyndale.

Yahweh also had a mother which later became his wife, asheera.

so how does all this information help you be a better person?

Oh and that's good if this the person who defends middle East gods...

How do you claim to understand ancient texts or such writings if you don't seem to understand simple writings on nairaland?

gohf:
so how does all this information help you be a better person?

Oh and that's good if this the person who defends middle East gods...

How do you claim to understand ancient texts or such writings if you don't seem to understand simple writings on nairaland?

“how does not worshipping cartoon make you a better person” that’s how your question sounds.

You understand the ancient texts? Bwahahahah
Lol chrestian

gohf:
1. How was number 1 insinuated?

And why not answer number 2 as well?

What idea of favor are you talking about?

1. Did you read your own write up? According to you, God chooses whom to heal and whom not to heal.

2. I asked you a question since you seem to equate the ways men deal with their fellow men in that block with the way God deals with men.

3. Did you even read what you wrote or is this a copy an paste OP you have there?

Maynnmann:


“how does not worshipping cartoon make you a better person” that’s how your question sounds.

You understand the ancient texts? Bwahahahah
Lol chrestian

who is chrestian? Sorry are you okay, confused or something?


Honestly, please who understands what he is saying

gohf:
who is chrestian? Sorry are you okay, confused or something?


Honestly, please who understands what he is saying

a flock can’t understand it.

Kobojunkie:
1. Did you read your own write up? According to you, God chooses whom to heal and whom not to heal.

2. I asked you a question since you seem to equate the ways men deal with their fellow men in that block with the way God deals with men.

3. Did you even read what you wrote or is this a copy an paste OP you have there?

according to me? Where did I write God chooses whom to heal and whom not to heal?

I do recall writing, God shows mercy to whom he chooses to. Is that wrong or a lie?

Besides even if you came to understand that God chooses whom to heal and whom not to heal, is that also a lie, is that wrong? Did God choose to heal Paul of his affirmity? Did God not choose to leave Mariam leprosy for a certain period of time? Does God not choose whom to deliver, are you saying God has no choice as all, or which God is referred to in scripture as the one who chooses and selects.

2. You asked, "since I seem" according to you... so I ask you, how did I seem that way?

3. You said I cling to an idea, am I supposed to assume what idea is in you mind as regards what I wrote or agree with something I have asked you clarify or speak clearly on?


Besides how do you even assume a person doesn't read what they wrote and posted... Please be straight forward

gohf:
according to me? Where did I write God chooses whom to heal and whom not to heal?I do recall writing, God shows mercy to whom he chooses to. Is that wrong or a lie?
Besides even if you came to understand that God chooses whom to heal and whom not to heal, is that also a lie, is that wrong? Did God choose to heal Paul of his affirmity? Did God not choose to leave Mariam leprosy for a certain period of time? Does God not choose whom to deliver, are you saying God has no choice as all, or which God is referred to in scripture as the one who chooses and selects.
2. You asked, "since I seem" according to you... so I ask you, how did I seem that way?
3. You said I cling to an idea, am I supposed to assume what idea is in you mind as regards what I wrote or agree with something I have asked you clarify or speak clearly on?
Besides how do you even assume a person doesn't read what they wrote and posted... Please be straight forward

Go back through and reread your own post, or at least the bit I responded to in order to gain clear understanding of what you are being asked here.... this before you come back arguing.

gohf:
1. When God selects who to heal, do a miracle for, use, elevate or save, what are the criterias and do all these people meet the "criterias" we know? Because there's always something we don't know, and it explains the skepticism of those who disbelieve those who say there's God or that God healed them or heard their prayer, or the envy or hatred towards those who get what other have sort for so long.

2. Cain killed Abel, Esau tried to kill Jacob, both were rejected by God and they hated it. Did they ever think just maybe the other person deserves it better or they themselves did something to be rejected. Did they ever think to learn how to gain such favor or it they maybe they deserve something else other than what others have?

3. Something we may be rejected for one thing but accepted for another thing, our "favor" may just lay somewhere else. Do the people who are selected for these "special" things feel "God is unfair"? Or is that just a thought that comes into the mind of those who feel rejected?

Does the moon feel bad that it doesn't shine in the day or the sun that it's greatest doesn't reach the night? Do the stars feel left out because they are too far away to rule either day or night? Do they consider their un purpose as insignificant, just a mere symbol of times? Have you ever thought, "God you are unfair". Abraham believed God is just and won't punish the righteous with the unrighteous. And God did give the city and opportunity, right? But they came to hurt strangers who visited them.

4. Imagine a woman who believes she has served God all her life, never slept with any man but still not married and approaching 40, or a woman who got married a virgin and at 50 not a single child nor a missed period, but her husband or other woman have more children they can handle. Or a man who has worked diligently and faithfully all his life, yet without the value or respect that he believes he deserves.

1. So what you, OP, are insinuating here is that when Jesus Christ healed the sick, He only healed some and not all those who came to Him for healing?

2. What has the ways of men to do with God's Way of dealing with men?

3. Did Jesus Christ teach you anywhere in His Gospel that this idea of "favor" you cling to exists in what is the Kingdom of God of which He gave you His Law and Gospel to abide by?

4. You would have to ask her what God she believed she was serving.... the god of the doctrines and traditions of men or Jesus Christ who instead came to save her from the curse that is laboring for the things the treasures of this world?