NewStats: 3,265,443 , 8,186,768 topics. Date: Sunday, 15 June 2025 at 02:01 AM 2w33s

KingCold:
He's on yet another South africa related thread, no suprises there.

says the Saffer on a nairaland platform.

Does that clock tick up there in your head.

WannaHowzit:


🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hebanna, it's Morbid419scam! He probably has 10 others, if not 20!

Morpheus101 have you no shame?😡😡😡

Thank you for the exposès KC😎

I have always had more than one shell in the matrix my dear, had this for years, was quite useful when we used to get banned back in the old versions of Matrix.

Sepukku is simply a japanese inspired avatar, don't fret you haven't unearthed anything fantastic.

Parrot69:


Get my name outta ya xenophobic dick sucking mouth

WannaHowzit:


What a shame, you people are even counting japa remmitances - I'm sure they for half of your GDP.

Yes us and the indians, Chinese, Vietnamese, Central and South Americans make up the largest contingent of remmitters. Did you notice these countries also have very large populations as well? Obviously you skipped introduction to economics 101in school and how factors of production operate in the 21st century

Bantu education really makes for small minds.

WannaHowzit:

Atleast SA magoshas still find it worthwhile and profitable operating in SA. Your magoshas traffick themselves on rickety boats across the Mediterranean to go get pooped on in the middle east. It's really is so sad - your moms and sisters - all shawarma poopified.

Remind me to send them R1 to buy tissue to clean themselves with.

1 word for you lazy Bantu student: Macro economics versus micro economics.

Ps. the magosha's are still working international clients and not your people. Those criminal ANC goons who travel around provinces throwing parties in the guise of doing real work aren't rich enough to feed all them hungry girls. You should know that. A simple visit to clubs like Coco in capetown will answer these questions for you. The next time I am there soliciting one of your magosha's I can give you a ring neh!

WannaHowzit:


Morbid419scam let's talk when South Africans are japaring to Nigeria. Right now, we're ok and will fix our country instead of relying on our granny's to stay behind and fight Buhari and disabled Tinubu

But aren't your poor gogo's the ones who are taking care of all the HIV infected kids the city dwellers are dumping on them as they "japar" to the cities to look for Magosha jobs.

Even common stipends given by the government they don't send back to help the gogo's. At least Naijals abroad remitted more than 20 million dollars last year to help the granny's back home. They have no time for Buhari and Tinubu.

Lionessza6:



LMFAO, the "science "fooled you like it* fooled millions of dumb arses to inject themselves with vaccines that are finishing them off slowly . Science .

Which coloured is science** talking about? . The Ones from the Western Cape whom " Science " has brainwashed into thinking they are indigenous to this place because they are somehow yellowish ? .

There is s very small faction of coloureds in South Africa that could possible be 75% Khoe San, and most of them aren't in the Western Cape but the Northern and Eastern Cape. The West Cape coloureds who are being fooled are obviously not from around here,Genes dont lie but historians and scientists do
( depending on the funder's interests) . Malaysian blood can never be played with,it doesn't joke . The hairline,hair texture and body shape of the Khoe San people can never go unnoticed or be dominated by some other bloodline it stays with you unshaken . Settler blood couldn't have resisted the domination better than Bantu blood ...never!!. I repeat there is no way we would come out looking more like the original Khoe San poeple that people who supposedly have more of their Gene's than us ....no ways . Bantu blood is way stronger than Euro and Malay blood,you see it when all three groups outside of SA have mixed kids. The kids will always look more closer to being black . Asians come next, but Euros can't recreate themselves. So how the the f did we end up with so many straight-haird ,flat arsed and tall 75 % genetic Khoe Sans . Fauci science I guess

Numskull do you know what is referred to as the phenomena of gene Intro gression . What this means is that the smaller the group of people in one given area, when a "foreign" gene is introduced into that group it initially spreads throughout the population but as that same population procreates they increase the original gene sequence back into that small population group.

In lay man if a group of Khoi people interbred with Europeans, Asians, and Bantu but stay isolated in a certain area as they begin to intermarry within their subset ,they would reintroduce the dominant genotype back into the population and would ergo carry a higher degree of Autsomal DNA the original marker(Khoi) in their gene sequencing regardless of Phenotype(physical appearance).

This would be the opposite for groups that were assimilated into the larger Bantu groups as the Khoi gene would be retrogressed or spread out more broadly among the populating causing the Kho ancestry in the Bantu to be less.

Genotype is the not Phenotype!

A couple of journals to peruse. Take your time but what we basically get from the study is that cape colores are predominantly Khoisan in genetic makeup regardless of ixture models.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20490549/

https://www.cell.com/fulltext/S0002-9297%2810%2900096-0

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.11.243840v1.full

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature08795

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Genetic-differentiation-of-Sotho-and-Xhosa-speakers-demonstrated-by-principal-component_fig2_321639935

Lionessza6:


Their * knowledge * of us is dependent on white nationalist propaganda ...they call it history I believe . To many of these idiots writings of delusional white nationalists can override genes ,language formations and customs .....ofcourse not anywhere else in Africa, just here . Sickos!.

Genetics has nothing to do with White nationalist propaganda but I get it now. It depends on who is telling the story, you know just like how we here about the the narrative of Foreiginers "stealing your women".

You say they "stole" them but to me I say the foreigners or "Amakwerekweres" are simply interbreeding and merging cultures with them to become a new group of people.

Its all the same name neh!

AfriqueDuZuid:


Well said

Khoe, san, xa, xu, griqua, baster, nama....


These people in here thinks they know us more than us

GO take a DNA test you slowpoke you will see that Khoi genetics usually flows through Bantu peoples at a 25% median rate and in the Coloreds at a 75% median rate which means you absorbed the click sounding people as there were more of you. Just google any peer reviewed journal on Khoi genetics in the Bantu and you will get your answers, stop listening to old wives tales from your gogo. The science is clear .

Lionessza6:


You might as well call us and modern day East Africans the same people,since we share part of our ancestry with them *Abantu* who were farmers,herders and iron men....but that would be genetically incorrect and unrealistic . We are not the same people but we do share a lot of traits thanks to our shared ancestry.

You do share common ancestry with East Africans and are essentially a continium of groups of" people" that migrated in Southern Africa.

Lionessza6:

That goes for the Namas in the deserts of Namibia,we obviously share a lot of traits,both genetically and culturally but we are not the same people, we simply share a common ancestor.

Again the Khoi and san people are far more closely related linguisticly and genetically and are therefore essentially the same" people" much like the Nguni clans as the Ndebele, the Zulu and the Swati who are "essentially" the same people with variations in their language. siple because you name your clans with totems and change parts of your culture does not negate the fact that you are indeed genetically the same string of people.

Lionessza6:

[b]The khoe and the san share a lot more traits with one another than with Abantu, but that still doesn't make them the exact same people and the differences are seen in today's population of South Africa, in particular the AmaXhosa and Abatswana who carry a lot of these differences culturally, genetically and linguistically.

Zulu and Ndebele share more traits with one another than they do with Swahili speaking Kenyan but there are differences in their language and cultural practices however on a genetic level they are "pretty" much the same group of people.

Try to apply this logic to the Khoi and the san which is why linguistics merge the two groups together when refering those people

Please stop.

Lionessza6:

Sothos use a lot of clicks and they also use a lot of kg's in xhosa we pronounce them as rh. These sounds dominate the Tswana,Pedi and Sotho languages just as the clicks dominate ours. What we call kwenas today are actually descendants of the Khoe not the San and their looks and languages are an obvious give away.[/b]

THey do not dominate these 3 Sotho dialects. You are lieing here. The Xhosa have the heaviest use of the click sounds in their language and you know this. Stop fibbing.




[b]Point of correction; there are no Xhosas who made with the khoe or the San , Xhosa people just like the majority of the so called black SA are a hybrid group of the Abantu and Khoe- San. [/quote]

You are just trying to argumentative here, How does your so called statement above make sense if two groups did not make with one another. How do you get a hybrid again?

Lionessza6:

The Xhosa nation was formed by the bloodlines of the aforementioned groups,hence the language and the physical appearance, so they are in actual fact not really Nguni and neither are they Khoe- San. Xhosa is what we are and we embrace all the groups that make up what we are the same. No one argued that Zulus were more or less Khoe-San than we are ,obviously the percentage of the Bantu or Khoe-San bloodline would differ from nation to nation and clan to clan.

Rubbish There existed clans of people who spoke an Nguni language who migrated down to the eastern cape. These groups were often named by their totems or leaders and often merged to form larger groups of Nguni clans. What you know as Xhosa today were a group of Nguni people who had with Khoi San peoples and incorporated them into their clans hence the hybridization.

Again Xhosa are indeed Nguni people and still speak an essentially Nguni language.

Lionessza6:

[b]You glorified white South Africans for *creating* a language that incorporated different languages ,and demonised* Africsns for doing the same calling us language bandits . And you went on to ask if our Nguni ancestors asked permission from our Khoe-San ancestors to incorporate their languages which was obviously another stupid blunder from you. That's like asking an urban dude who speaks kasi lingo and lives in Limpopo why he is using Zulu,Sotho etc words when using the language * ......moronic!. When people procreate together or live next to each other ,it is inevitable for new languages and bloodlines to come up.

Point 1. If you read that except again you will see that I was actually castigating the Afrikaans language but then again your brain is slow.

Point 2. Language is fluid as I mentioned above however what we see in the Xhosa and Zulu context is that these "dominant" groups incorporated these other groups into their clans and so therefore "stole" these words into the dominant language which is still spoken today

If the Khoi were the dominant ones you would be speaking a strictly khoi language today.

Lionessza6:

Smarty ,you said Xhosa people stole* the language and women* ,meaning that they probably were strong enough to bully the others. Meaning the other people were victims of these bandits * , so my question is .......how did the strong end-up with an imposed name from the victims ***.

There were waring factions among Xhosa groups. The dominant groups absorbed the weaker ones. Its that simple.

As for the name Xhosa, if you are implying that the Khoi named the "xhosa" well you used to be bullied by Zulu people didn't you. I recall reading were some of them used to refer to you as their "xhosa dogs" lol.

Lionessza6:


Numbskull the Ngqika ,Abathwa ,Amaqaba etc are not Nguni clans .They are Xhosa people from the San...

So in essence they are San people who merged with an Nguni clan,( the Xhosa), interbred with them and then the dominant Xhosa language replaced certain words in their language with words from the Khoi San. Where does this narrative differ with my interpretation?

Lionessza6:


LMFAO, numbskull the click parts of the languages don't come from the Khoe but the San people. Tswanas and Sothos are more likely to sound and look Khoeish than the Ngunis.

1.The Khoi and the san are the same people with one set settling as farmers mostly and the other remaining "bushmen" or hunter gatherers so both had click sounds in their language structure.

2. Xhosa 's more so would carry a significant amount of Khoi than San DNA since they made first with them in the interior of South Africa on their way down to the eastern cape. There is a heavy morphological imprint of Khoisan features that exists amongst Xhosa people more so than the Zulu and you know this.

3. I would agree Tswanas and Sothos do carry Khoi and san phenotypes but not any more so than Xhosa's and their language has less click sounds in its structure ergo their early interactions would very likely have been minimal or less compared to the Nguni.

Lionessza6:

Did the whites ask for permission from the others like the French and Germans from incorporating their languages into theirs.?

I don't understand this question, Elaborate?

Lionessza6:

Do you even know where the name Xhosa came from ?. So the *victims *were able to impose an identity on the strong ones ?

Elaborate. Who were the victims and who were the strong ones?

Lionessza6:


How do we steal a language that was spoken by a people we partly originate from ,hows that possible? Do you reason with your anus daily?. Does your brainwashed arse know about Abathwa, Amagqinka, AmaQwabe, Gcalekas ect?

When you absorb a people into your clans and this is what happened, you invariably "take" elements of their language and make it your own.

When you take something that is not yours and don't return it back, is that not "stealing"?

JaceBlaze:


He must just tell us how the language was "stolen"

vey simple explanation. When the Nguni started "stealing women" from the Khoi people and incorporating them into their clans, they invariably "stole" the clicks from the Khoi.

A good example would be the Gonaqua and the Gqunukhwebe

Lionessza6:



LMFAO,how does the bolded make any sense ,whose language did Zulus and Xhosas steal? .....and how does one steal a language? ......in 2023 people still think like this .

Let me guess the war-like Nguni must have taken permission from the Khoi before incorporating the Khoi clicks into their language structure.

JaceBlaze:


Oh I see like wey Una South African slang still lack small small? .. anyway I appreciate the civil engagement but I'm sure very soon I'll be seeing you on the other side of hell where violence is the order of the day.

The best I can respond to that is my potential to be nice is equal to my propensity to be nasty. It all depends on a lot of variables.

WannaHowzit:


I've hit you with this info before: 10 things SAgot right in SA. Google the article . Cross reference with current data.

You haven't hit me with anything Wena in the past. We are fully aware of "the black middle class" in SA but If SA's black middle class has "quadrupled" then show the time frame you are referencing because that is a highly relevant factor in your so called argument.

You made this claim.

I can refer you to a good generator vendor in SA if the lights are giving you problem over there, just let me know.

JaceBlaze:


Wetin be warri now?

See na, you never reach. Warri na the highest levels of pidgin english we pesin fit yan, because na people for Warr dey hammer pidgin .

JaceBlaze:


Point taken...How do you like my pidgin, anyhow?

You dey try small small. When you reach warri levels we go hail thee!

WannaHowzit:


You need a statistic to tell you there are 1 million South Africans in Japageria when most of you have never seen even one

Stop misdirecting. This is not the data I asked for. You made a "claim" about middle class Saffers.please back it up with data so I can review.

If you are experiencing load shedding sorry "blackout" issues at the moment and need more time just say so neh!

WannaHowzit:


Data is that most of you have never seen a South African in Nigeria. FACT.

Eh when you have something substantial to bring ping me again otherwise you are free to continue with your teenage rants here Sotho-Tswhana boy.

Akere!

WannaHowzit:


Proof is that we're not japaring all over the place like you are even you're "Africa's largest in economy". On the paper agberos use to wipe their bums in Lagos gutters

Data please! or do you need more time to siff through the internet?

WannaHowzit:


Goes to prove my point that black South Africans are smarter and more literate

Cause I spelt "wifes" instead of "wives". Boy Please that quote was a verbatim from Will smith that I should have put the apostrophe . It was not plural

NEXT!!!

WannaHowzit:


Social mobility is about moving up the ladder and how that contributes to society - like how black middle class has quadrupled in SA. I think as a Nigerian you thought it meant drowning in the Mediterranean sea while japaring

Black middle class "quadrupled" in what period of time?

What percentage of the entire "black" population is this black middle class ergo what number in 'absolute" is this?

I need data please, cause you are about to get a lecture boy!

WannaHowzit:


Wives, not wifes. Goes to prove my point.

This coming from a venacular speaking Sesotho.

N*GGA Please!

WannaHowzit:


Like you said, we're done. Let that be forever more. Bye!

Keep my "wifes!!.. sorry my name outta your damn mouth! less you get b.tich slapped

WannaHowzit:


Lol, what social mobility - Nigerians have not only gotten poorer but extremely hungry.

1. Do you even know what social mobility is in reference to GDP per capita ?

2. Can you show us pictures or videos of these extremely hungry Nigerians, Where are they, What states do they live in?

WannaHowzit:

You're less educated than South Africans with barely any classrooms not to mention technological additions, so you're highly unlikely to leap frog SA in of education.

EUreka Wanna, you broke the code. This is the reason why Nigeria continues to be a major hub for "youth" innovation with strong investments from people like Meta and the likes. Learn to understand what "absolute" and "relative" mean you M.o.ron.

WannaHowzit:

SA has a better life expectancy despite HIV at 62. What's yours? Malaria? Hunger? Terrorism?

Judging form the way your young under 40 entertainers are dropping like flies from "cardiac arrest" you might want to rethink that life expentancy stat my dear mfethu

JaceBlaze:


Yes they must be wondering how did a guy from a more socially and economically advanced society was able to put few words of the jungle language in a sentence and make sense... that's gotta tickle something

The jungle language is a Lingua spoken by people across Africa and represents a colloquial dialect invented by the innovative West AFricans much like your WHite population who speak a broken pidgin Dutch language which they smartly coined as a real language named "Afrikaans" and your Zulu's and Xhosa's who stole another peoples click language.

Language is a fluid continium .

Good day you slow pokes!

WannaHowzit:


Eish I'm sorry morbid419nigerianscam, I see I totally annihilated you in my previous life. Bye

Jace, when did our morpheus become a softie or has Mkhondo WeSizwe finally broken him?

Job well done boys - where's IronGalaxy - the other warrior?

Morbid419scam is down!

You are starting neh!

Don't wake sleeping giants when they are busy relaxing watching premiership league.

WannaHowzit:



Dangote can be the richest guy in Africa but when you compare the average SA and Nigerian populations, South Africans are far richer. That's what per capita means. You should know this since you're playing pseudo-economist advising Ghana to willly nilly tax it's biggest investor

You do not understand the limitations of a statistical inference like "GDP per capita" in relation to income distribution, social mobility, Gini coeffiecients and the likes, that's why you make ignorant statements like the above and you call others pseudo economists

Bantu education I tell you.

WannaHowzit:


Bathong Jace, you have mastered pidgin now Morpheus101, Parrot69 and GeneralPula are gonna go to sleep hungry tonight but atleast with hardons that a South African man is showing them some affection.

Will you stop pinging me you bloody M.O.R.ON!!!

La gente aprende un nuevo idioma todo el tiempo!

no es una sorpresa.

Na today for SA!