NewStats: 3,265,164 , 8,185,855 topics. Date: Friday, 13 June 2025 at 05:30 PM 2p1fv

Bawss1:


Still does not make a difference.

Why?

Because politicians do not face the consequences of their policies when it goes bad. Trudeau does not have any more skin in the game than any of the other candidates They will all find ways to evade any blowback from their policies that affect them personally.

I will concede that Scheer could have handled this way better than he did. First, this made the headlines because in the past the Conservatives had questioned others about their dual citizenship. Scheer himself questioned Michaelle Jean's legitimacy back in 2005 when she was up the governor-general's office because of her Canadian and French citizenship. This does make him look hypocritical.

In the grand scheme of things, this remains a non-issue. Same way Trudeau's brownface was a non-issue if you asked me... but with politics being what it is everyone is throwing dirt and hoping for some to stick.

If a politician lives in Canada (only citizenship), and their policies destroyed the Canadian economy, how aren't they also facing the consequences ? Nobody cared that Scheer is a duel citizen or his experience or lack of it in the insurance industry. People only care about him lying and being such a hypocrite, especially when it has to do with something so minor. Can you imagine how he'd hide a bigger issue ? Trudeau's brown-face wasn't an issue because he itted he did it, and they'll be other pics of him found as he itted he did it more than once. Big difference between "you never asked me". Plus his track record on loving and embracing minorities hasn't been perfect, but it has been better than any other candidate.

Bawss1:


The dual citizenship thingy of Scheer is a non-issue.

People will, or should be in my opinion, more concerned about things that have real-world effects, such as taxes, jobs etc.

How could you have faith in your PM negotiating a trade deal with the U.S. for example, when he has nothing to lose ? If the deal goes bad for Canada, who cares, he can just move and work legally in the U.S. for example. How can anyone ignore such a conflict of interest ?

salford1:

I don't know why he did not begin the process of renouncing his American citizenship immediately he became the leader of the Con back in May, 2017. Did he not think people/press will find out and blow it out of proportion? He started the process to renounce last August. I believe he still wants to keep his American citizenship and would likely cancel his application to renounce after the election. He is a rich kid, and has no problem paying taxes to the US on his Canadian earnings.

If Rona Ambrose did not retire from politics, and if she was the leader of the Con, maybe I would be more inclined towards the Con. At the moment, I just don't really see how Sheer would make a better leader than Trudeau. I might be wrong.

Do you even believe he's in the process of renouncing his U.S. citizenship? Because he said so ?

Bawss1:
_{make I find small trouble}

PSA to all the Canucks in the house:

to take out the trash on Monday the 21st. Conservatives for the win 2019!

I think most canucks want an actual Canadian in parliament hill.

salford1:

Hmmm. The workforce .. one needs to master the politics. If not, the intimidation, bullying, backstabbing, throwing others under the bus, subtle racism etc can be very overwhelming. However, I have mastered the art.

They are also not all nice outside the corporate world. I have had a few not so pleasant experience inside trains, car parks, inside aeroplanes etc. The fake smiles can be deceiving, so I always have my guards on just in case .

Overall, Canada is a pleasant country to live in.

Hahaha took me years to master the politricks. Years!!!! Now I have mastered it, I run these fake oyibo devils. But what makes me laugh and feel sad is when a new immigrant comes here and you warn them. They never listen and fall for these fake devils until they get burned then vex.

smartkester:
yeah it's easier to get UK study visa but what's the fate of one after the study?
UK immigration policies are quite stiff, getting a work permit and permanent residency after study is almost close to impossible, I stand to be corrected though

Exactly and they know this. A Nigerian who comes to Canada will stay. So people who can't or aren't qualified for EE try to use the school route to migrate pernamentally. It's not really meant for that. So hence the high rate of rejection.

ahiboilandgas:
then why are the school dishing out ission to Nigeria (illegals) Abi they are just collecting application fees,visa fees and smiling to the bank ...they should stop the post gradute work visa

ission from the university and immigration visa are two different things.

I wish you luck. Unfortunately they discriminate against Nigerians when it comes to getting this visa.

NwanyiOkpa:


So what qualifies one to get the visa? I just graduated and i want to go for masters. Is it too hard to ask?

It's easier to get ission and a study visa in the U.K. Why not try there ?

NwanyiOkpa:


legit u mean? don't say that sir. I have been following the thread for some time now. Even people who have paid their tuition are being rejected. What definition of Legit do i not understand?

I always tell my people the Canadian society is negro proof. Whatever shady/ illegal nonsense you try in naija, don't try in Canada. People who aren't qualified for express entry are using the school route to try to enter canada. The Canadian government isn't stupid.

NwanyiOkpa:
Why are Nigerians getting so much visa rejections?

Legit Nigerian applications aren't getting rejected
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Timi1990:


My brother you need the way one guy explained how things work in Rwanda and Burundi for me and how their Govt is making plans for multinational companies to set up in their country, I begin Dey weep for our dear Nigeria . Dem even get 24hrs steady power supply in those countries I no believe am until I did my findings and clear my doubt . This Nigeria nah still shit hole !

They're not as big and diverse as Nigeria.

nairalandposter:
I'm looking for a post where somebody was complaining Nigerians come home from abroad, spend money then return overseas, and they pity Nigerians at home but don't say it out loud.

I wanted to respond to that but I didn't note the moniker and I can't find the comment now. Anyone know where/who it is?

Believe it was me. Deny my comment.

Most abroad come and exploit the country small. Chop suya, use their superior dollar purchasing power then leave. Deep down they even pity those who live there. Complain when u have a yankee port ? For what ?

sentra05:


I think we should not encourage people who have not made up their minds to migrate. From his/her post, you can see he/she has not done their own personal research and does not know what he/she wants in the first place. A lot of Nigerians do "follow follow" and unfortunately migration is a serious issue, it is not something one should jump into anyhow. People need to evaluate themselves thoroughly and be sure they have the right mentality for the move otherwise they won't be able to overcome the initial challenges and shock they may encounter. These are the kind of people that would open a thread tomorrow and bashing the country as if they were forced to migrate.

Some Nigerians do not have the mentality to live abroad and that is why you see them complaining of tax, bills, mortgage etc because they get all those things free in Nigeria. I think anyone who is serious to migrate should have made their personal research and not rely on people to validate or motivate them

Explain this please.

Maple2020:
Hello Nigerian canadians i started this movement in July but i am loosing motivation, i am actually doing this for my kids because i have a comfortable job. My colleague who i started with has changed her mind and its affecting me I'm studying for IELTS buy I've lost that energy i started with.
So guys give me ginger, remind why this is worth every naira, sweat and effort.

Your colleague got rejected and they're too ashamed to say. Don't fall for their nonsense. You're also not comfortable, and if you need motivation to do something life changing for your kids, then I don't know what to say.

Beautyaddy:


lol!...what is stopping you from relocating back to Nigeria na

I am sure no one is putting a gun to your head to not leave that country you are presently tired of

Don't mind him. He's only insulting himself. People abroad read the post of the young people currently there and thank God they found a way to leave.

AkataWoman:
So it seems she’s still facing deportation and fighting it.

Why do I get the feeling she was a proud flag-waving Nigerian until this deportation situation happened?

Everyone in the diaspora is sooo proud of 9ja-until it’s time to live there.

Most aren't proud to be naija abroad. Only when it benefits them like the musicians you see coming up.

ttmacoy:
I disagree that there can only be resistance against illegal migration, there is already growing resistance against legal migration in Canada as liberal as they are and such changes have to be carried out over time and with sensitivity. Even legal migration has an impact on demographics etc and brings both good and bad so there will always be a threshold at which people will push back and that applies to black, Asian or white countries.

That’s part of the rise in right wing politics across Europe etc with people rightly or wrongly feeling that they are losing their identities end jobs etc to migrants. This has always been and will always be.

Even the most racist white Canadian knows the prosperity of the country depends on immigration. Any governement which gets elected will maintain the immigration level if not increase. Campaigning and being in the job are two different things. the Europeans own their country. Only natives own north America and the Europeans changed the identity of the continent through immigration. How can you now shout for someone doing the same ?

Ugosample:


I'm surprised you are responding this way tho

How so ?

salford1:
I have reasons to believe op's story.

I know a bro that came here just after completing secondary school. His parent were probably middle class Nigerians. That was also his first time in Canada after the parents returned to Nigeria, as he was born here in the mid-1970's. His dad came here on scholarship and the mum came along a year after and they had him.

In London, there are several cases on Nigerians born in the 60's and 70's whose parents were also on schorlaships.

The parents all returned to Nigeria with the kids in all the cases, and some of them really suffered in Nigeria before getting a chance to return. One I know of personally as he is family. The mum lost his birth certificate not long after they returned to Nigeria in the early 1970's, and the mum was late. It was tough to prove the citizenship even though he eventually got it. Prior to travelling in his mid 30's, the bro suffer in Nigeria nor be small.

This man left at a really late age despite being a Canadian citizen. That's why I'm doubting his suffa suffa story.

wyzoe:


Like I said, you don't know my story so stop assuming. As for benefits, you're right but you also need information, information YOU have at the back of your hand because you've lived here for long but I don't.
I just learned about Ontario Works two days ago for instance. The title of this thread should give you a clue.

You should stop assuming maternal.

When it comes to your families wealth you always ignore it. Answer now. How does a poor Nigerian secure visa to Canada? How does a poor Nigerian afford to give birth out of pocket ? Not to mention paying for a 2 way ticket and accommodation when she was in Canada to give birth ? You have many services that'll give Canadian citizens all the info they need to access whatever they need. Even the immigration officer could tell you once you land. Including ontario works which you now know off. Stop this false rags to riches story. "My story" you're a Canadian citizen. Your "story" was secure with that port from birth. You're only insulting yourself.

wyzoe:


I didn't grow up rich, don't assume. Yes I had the ability to go back anytime, subject to technicalities. Who would pay for it? If you think it's a meager amount to buy airline tickets then it's the first sign that you lack experience of the true Nigerian life as you call it. How about when you land, where do you stay having no family? You have to raise funds for that too.

It's not a rags to riches story, it's just a story. Nothing to it.
Keep an open mind.

How did your parents get Canadian visa ? You think anyone can just get Canadian visa. How did your parents pay for your delivery since they weren't citizens or legal residence ? You think it's cheap to deliever a child out of pocket abroad ? Who do you think you're fooling. Stop acting like Banky W with your fabricated rags to riches story. How about when you land ? You're a Canadian CITIZEN. You have access to many social benefits including housing when you land. Canada takes care of it's citizens. Stop it.

wyzoe:


What part is the lie Sir?

As for what I'm trying to accomplish, nothing. I'm simply documenting some of the experiences I feel are noteworthy. Not everything or everyone has an ulterior motive. I don't know where you're getting the comparison of suffering from.

It seems clear to me that you need to read the narrative with an open mind.

Nigerians born in Canada or America don't want to go fix Nigeria. At best they may do business there if its mutually beneficial. A blind child born abroad knows its better being a 3rd class citizen in Canada than a 1st in naija. That story is a lie.

Perra:
Wait how are you a citizen when you havent even started living there yet? ... Or you mean a Permanent residence?

If its citizen then u were born there? .... And if yes, then why say things like "dreams do come true when you are a Canadian citizen normal normal"?

He's forming. He grew up rich or at least always had the ability to go to Canada and instantly better his life anytime. Since he was born in Canada and was always a citizen. He's playing the rags to riches guy who grew up and hustled in ajegunle. He's a story teller.

"Story time, story time"

wyzoe:
My body is still operating Nigerian time, which means I'm having a bit of trouble getting quality sleep. Also it's still bright by 8pm but by 9.30pm it gets dark. Anyways I usually wait till 12am or so before going to bed but I'm usually up by 4am (which translates to about 9am Nigerian time) and I find it difficult resuming sleep as it gets bright pretty early. All this will change when winter comes.

Anyhoo, yesterday I decided to stroll around early in the morning and on returning, I saw one neighbor outside smoking. He waved at me, I waved back and decided to approach him.
Turns out he's a Nigerian (either born there or came in as a child). We got talking and it struck me how different people's perspectives can be.

This guy was longing to move to Nigeria. He had this romantic (and unrealistic) notion of Nigeria. Believe me when I say I was quite attentive but at some point, I had to puncture his bubble. We talked a lot about government, he has a white baby Mama and two kids but he says he's not impressed with their women, rather he likes African women.

He felt the system was unfair to him, cheating him and depriving him etc. I had to tell him a few stories about Nigeria. He literally has no idea apart from one or two anecdotes. He said he likes Davido, Wizkid, PSquare (he doesn't know Tuface), but said Sunny Ade is not his thing (and he actually sang some lines). He's yoruba but doesn't speak, not even pidgin.

Anyway, I encouraged him to get a Nigerian port as the first step and travel down and look around. He's into construction, has two cars, a truck and a nice Chrysler. Said he had his own construction company and offered me a job on the spot. A roofing job at 15/h.
I told him I'd think about it but I'm not likely to take it. It however reinforced the things I'd read online about networking. I mean this was someone casually offering me a job.

Now, he told me he grew up on the streets of Toronto and that between 17-25 he had been in and out of jail. He said he's trying to straighten his life out now and he's in college making straight A's.
In his mind, when he finishes he will come to Nigeria and start to make a difference in the country. I didn't know where to start from. I simply told him that many people in Nigeria wish to leave the country for a number of reasons which I tried to outline.

It's easy to take something for granted if you do not have another perspective. I wish him luck and I hope he's able to visit so he can decide what he really wants.

Oh and he asked me at some point where I was from in Nigeria. I told him and then my people, he did it. He actually asked me if I knew this person, and that person, and that person. He was sure I'd know this one because he's a chief. How about that one. I got tired of telling him that there are hundreds or thousands of people with that same name. Finally I gave him an idea of the population size by states. I think he got the picture after that but I believe he'll do it again.

You're lying. Anyone who lives in Canada knows this story is nonsense. I fail to see what you're trying to accomplish with this lie. You were born in Canada. You NEVER suffered like this guy or lived the true Nigerian life.

lami88:
Good day to all the gurus on this thread working to help put us through and answer our questions. I just started this process and a friend of mine also wants to commence hers too. Now shes in a dilemma and I want to seek your opinion on her case.
She just started a thriving business here in Nigeria and it's really thriving for her. Her husband also just started a company with great prospects. However, she wants to apply for skilled worker program because she doesn't know what the future holds and she also doesn't want to wait incase this program is cancelled in the nearest future in order to avoid regrets. So the question is cam she apply for these skilled workers program and not live permanently in Canada. Can she be going in and out. We googled it and it days one has to have spent a total of 1000 days to be eligible for citizenship in a period of 5 years. But we dont know if its continuous period of 1000 days. Can someone with a pr status live in an out of Canada and still be eligible for citizenship. Thanks

It's not continuous. Just within that 5 years. As long as you meet those days you should be fine.

einsteino:


You gave a very good reply, one that I couldn't agree any more with... though with the exception of the bolded. The earlier respondent may have been wrong but that doesn't make him an enemy of progress, that's too serious an accusation to just fling at someone. One may argue that the matter at hand is too dire to pardon misinformation but hey that's a risk you sign up for when soliciting advice on forums. The whole purpose of posting answers on a forum is to help checkmate such ill advise, as it is bound to happen no matter how informed we are. Having people answer questions in the open allows a peer-review(like you did) that normally wouldn't be possible with private message. Knowing this, if someone has any intention of sabotaging another, do you think he would be foolish enough to do it in the open? It may be that he hasn't lived in Ottawa, so it is possible his advice was based on hearsay. In such a case, that can only mean he wasn't cautious to indemnify himself, doesn't make him an Enemy of progress.

If someone asks you for advice and you're extremely ignorant about the situation. Yet not only do you give the person advice, you tell them not take the opportunity. Isn't that enemy of progress?

phemocheee:
Good morning folks. Please I have a good problem and I'm losing sleep over it already.

I'm currently in Calgary, staying with my cousin for about 2 months now. Just recently, I got a job here in Calgary and I'm expected to resume tomorrow. Let me also say that the pay is quite good too. However, last week thursday, I got another job at Ottawa and the difference in salary is about 18k (gross)

Both jobs are of the same category, Senior IT Security role.

Now to the main point: I'm seriously contemplating relocating my wife and son to Ottawa but my cousin feels the increase in salary is not material enough to offset the cost of living @ Ottawa in short and long term. He's of the opinion that staying close to family and friends in Calgary will be beneficial to me in the long run.

Please for folks living in both cities,which do you think is the best choice at this point in time? Should I stay in Calgary or move to Ottawa?

P.S My wife is also into IT Security but she's yet to get a job in Calgary yet.

Thanks

Bros jump on the next plane with your family. To begin with Ottawa is a cheap city to live in. It's a small city (a bit over a million) with big city amenities. Taxes in Ontario is a bit more, but that extra 18k gross will more than offset it. An extra 18k gross a year will net you at least an extra 9k in your pocket easily. You'd be crazy to turn down an extra 9k in your pocket yearly. This narrative that Ottawa is way more expensive than Calgary is a lie. I've lived in both cities. Lastly with Ottawa being the capital, a lot of government agencies are looking for someone in your field. I feel there's more opportunities in Ottawa for you. Not to mention you already got a job that pays 18k more. People should be careful of people who are enemies of progress. Canada is yours to explore. If things don't work out trying to explore X then you can always return to Calgary. I can live with making a mistake, but not regrets.

12inchess:
India is number one ITA country
China is number two ITA country
Nigeria is number 3 ITA country
Pakistan is number 4
United Kingdom citizens are number 5
United States is number 6.

One would wonder why americans and British citizens are doing express entry. But such is life.

Leaving the E.U will make things horrible there. Plus you can't compare Europe to north America. Also I think they go by country of application not citizenship?

PaulSimon2020:
That's so funny , but to be honest, Europe is a lot more safer and saner than US but of course you make more money in US.

America's population is over 300 million. We should also keep things in perspective.

willy2000:

So Europe is trash because it has small roads, small houses, And you almighty USA, where you can be killed by anyone including the police, killed by a drunken driver,be homeless overnight, is a treasure. Kwantinue.
Saying the world revolves around North America shows how myopic and biased you are.

Yes. Nobody works hard to drive a small car, on small roads, to go to their small house. I wan chop life. Europe is absolutely trash. I also don't live in the U.S