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Ibime:


Lies for foolish Putards

Volkswagen owns Audi and Skoda yet the propagandist who wrote this separated them to make it seem to Putards (who mostly have double digit IQ) that car companies are coming back

Volkswagen has sold all its operations in Russia for $140m, something it invested $900m in, and ran away.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/19/business/volkswagen-russia-factory.html

I don't think Putards are as stupid as you want to see.

I agree that the news "Volkswagen returns to Russia" is nothing more than a clickbait headline.

If you dive deeper into the news than the PR headline, then what is it about?
Only that the new owner of Volkswagen's assets in Russia announced the rebranding of Volkswagen's former daughter.

Here is the news published by the new owner of German assets (original source):

Volkswagen Group Rus LLC announces the start of rebranding and will continue to operate under the name of AGR LLC / AGR Automotive Group

See here: https://agr.auto/news/1 (use the Google Translator, if you don't know russian)

I do not know why some journalists have distorted the message about the rebranding into the message "Volkswagen is coming back".

Maybe because AGR Automotive Group announced that he continues to supply spare parts and service for Volkswagen, Audi и Skoda models
(parallel import forever )

Volkswagen can't come back even if it wanted to; at least not now.

Do you know the conditions under which Western companies are forced to sell their business in Russia to Russians?

This is a robbery on the high road in fact

here is a list of conditions approved by the Russian government after the start of the well-known events:

1) A discount of at least 50% of the market value, according to an independent assessment
2) payment to the budget in the amount of 10%, if the transaction is carried out with a discount of less than 90% of the market value
3) fulfillment by the buyer of the KPI - for the development of the company and the preservation of the staff
4) a ban on the withdrawal of funds from sales abroad for owners from unfriendly countries.

and in June of this year, the authorities introduced additional requirements:

1. Prohibition to enter into a repurchase option for a period of more than two years and control over the marketability of the transaction
2. The obligation to place up to 20% of the shares of the acquired PJSC on the stock exchange, regardless of the format in which the transaction is conducted
3. the requirement to conduct a listing even if the PJSC is liquidated as a result of the transaction or loses its public status.

.. Accordingly. Volkswagen has just given away its assets for a penny, and it can only get them back at the market price if it wants to return and it will have an advantage in repurchase only for two years..

Volkswagen does not have the economic situation to return back

so Putards are not idiots at all.

Many Western companies have "left" Russia, but their enterprises have been working and are still working, only the names have changed. The equipment has remained, jobs have not been cut, and so on, it's just that stupid putards, not smart Europeans/Americans, are now making a profit.

budaatum:

You really should do your own research. Not only would you inform yourself, you'd also be in position to inform us others.

https://investingstrategy.co.uk/financial-news/brics-vs-g7-head-to-head-comparison-and-statistics/

You provided a link to the interpretation of the data by a specific expert, I prefer to use the original source (The World Bank)

Many times I have already given a link to the World Bank here at the forum, for example, a list of countries by GDP, taking into PPP:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.PP.CD

As for the article you cited here, I have the following comments:
firstly, it does not make sense to compare countries and blocks of countries by nominal GDP.

and for gdp (ppp), here is a clear illustration (look at the Animated Chart: G7 vs. BRICS by GDP (PPP)) and I recommend you to read the article in full after animation):
https://www.visualcapitalist.com//animated-chart-g7-vs-brics-by-gdp-ppp/

secondly, it is necessary to carefully consider the dates of calculation of certain indicators.

It makes no sense to rely on data known, for example, only for 2017.
Since then, many important events have occurred that have affected the economies of different countries in different ways, for example, the covid epidemic.

opamoses1:
I still don't know this former president's offence. Coup plotters always table some dodgy reasons to justify why they carry out a coup.

Last we heard, they said Nigeria would have been affected if they had not acted, but they still fail to give the exact reason (s) on why they acted.

has anyone asked them about it?
I don't think so. No one was interested in the motives of the junta, everyone immediately started shouting about the damage to democracy and about military punishment.

The junta is going to put Bazoum on trial, the junta said that it has evidence of Basum's treason.

Well, soon the whole world will be told and shown at the trial.

I know very little about Niger and I don't know anything about Bazoum at all.

But at least two things make me think that Bazoum is not the real leader of the nation at all.

1. After the coup, Bazoum did not say anything to his people, but he found the time and opportunity to write and publish an appeal to the Americans/Western countries in the Washington Post.

2. Bazoum in his address called on Western countries to intervene, but how did he justify this?

"intervene, otherwise Russia and Wagner will seize everything here."
It's ridiculous. To call distant foreigners to your country so that other distant foreigners do not receive benefits...

Just yesterday I saw in the press the statement of some African leader on this topic, but I did not who it was.
But if anyone is interested, I can look for it.

UPD.

And, it also seemed strange to me that immediately Islamists and Tuaregs began to declare their commitment to the values of democracy in Niger.

The attack on the State armed forces of Niger by Islamists with the of French aviation surprises me a little
Does it not arouse suspicion at all about the connection of the deposed president and the French with terrorists?

vowiski:


Struggling in Ukraine ?

You watch too much western propaganda western news…

If Putin wants to blow up the entire Ukraine in one day he can surely do it …
You don’t know they were USSR before ? It’s like killing his own people if he decides to use brute force…
It would have been different if Putin was fighting against some western or Asian countries …

that's not the point.
Well, that is, the Russians, of course, are not fighting in Ukraine the way the United States and NATO did in Yugoslavia or in Iraq.

Many Ukranian cities are indeed Russian cities with a Russian/Russian-speaking population (like Odessa, for example, Odessa was founded under Catherine by Russians); and more recently, Putin has been terribly annoying everyone, repeating as broken record "the Ukrainian people are a fraternal people for Russians".

But the real reason why the Russians do not take "Kiev in three days" and do not reach the Polish border "in a week" is another

The Russians have no goal to capture the whole of Ukraine. The Russian authorities have been repeating the same thing from the very beginning. The objectives of the special military operation are: ensuring Russia's strategic security (=it is necessary that Ukraine has a neutral status and never enters NATO); denazification of Ukraine (= it is necessary to ensure that the Bandera Nazis are outlawed in Ukraine); demilitarization of Ukraine (==reduction of the armed forces of Ukraine to a minimum level).

Putin has specifically repeated many times that Russia will not overthrow the Ukrainian government; this is an internal matter of the Ukrainian people.

At the same time, Russia is not at war with Ukraine now, but with NATO countries in a proxy war.

Therefore, it makes no sense for Russia to move further west from the borders that the military chose as convenient for themselves and equipped them for defense.

there is such an expression "military leaders win battles, and economists and logisticians win wars."

Look at the map.

Ukraine and the countries of the former Warsaw Pact have no reserves of Soviet weapons left; now all weapons for Ukrainian troops come from the USA/from Western European countries.

That is, the logistics shoulder of Ukrainians is long, and the Russians have a short one.

Why would the Russians move to the west? so that Western equipment gets to the front faster, or what? to make it easier to send equipment for repair?

And at the same time to take on the maintenance of vast territories ravaged by war with cities of millions?

Well, no.

Russia has taken positions that primarily ensure the water, transport, and energy security of Crimea.
And the occupied territories are being rebuilt at a rapid pace (repairing old roads/laying new ones; restoring factories, housing, schools, hospitals, organizing order in the occupied territories).

That is, the Russians have reliable rear very close, the logistical leverage is very short.

And Ukrainians are fighting about the "Surovikin line" equipped over the previous months.

Russian engineering troops arranged a defensive line in three layers. A lot was dug up, a lot was filled with concrete, a lot of mines were laid, solid..

During the counteroffensive, the Ukrainians were unable to break through even the outermost line of defense.

the Russians are moving slowly forward only where it is justified by the security of the rear.

For example, to stop the shelling of rear cities in the Donbas.

And go ahead and Kiev or capture Kharkov there and further to the West?

What for?

The Russians are waiting until the NATO countries run out of resources and patience and they stop ing Zelensky.


At the same time, the Russians transferred their economy to military rails very smoothly, without shock to the population.

so now the old military factories are working in three shifts seven days a week and a lot of new production facilities have opened.

plus, construction on new territories requires a lot of materials, people and equipment - and this is the driver of the economy.

In general, Russia is fighting very traditionally for itself.

In wars of attrition, she has no equal, especially if she could not be isolated/blockaded.

PS. Just in case, I want to clarify that I live in Russia. So what I wrote above is not the fantasies of some external specialists, this is what the whole of Russia knows about.
This is obvious to us.

panafrican:
First secure yourself with all the possible weapons you can get, otherwise you might be annihilated or taken as a slave when those who starved themselves to make powerful weapons take over your land.

poor Americans.
they constantly live on the verge of death from starvation, apparently.

XAUBulls:

Your perspective on this is well thought out, but military rule is an aberration.

Did you know that Islamist insurgents have taken over more land and territories in Mali since the military coup took place there and the Mali military junta expelled the French military in Mali?

Niger Republic too must not be allowed to degenerate to that level of Mali where violent Islamists will take over after those indisciplined Niger military coup plotters expelled the French and U.S. troops.
This will have dire effects on Nigeria and the rest of West Africa and Africa with an increase in military spending. Moneys that should be used for economic development.

Welcome to this discussion forum by the way. Reading through your previous posts, I knew you were a Russian and you confirmed it here.

All the best!

Thank you for the warm welcome. Yes, I live in Russia and I wasn't going to hide it.

Just in case, I apologize again for my written English; sometimes I have to use a google translator.
Now I will answer the substance of your comments.

1. Military coups are generally evil, I agree.

But the possibility of military coups in the country does not depend at all on the state system, on the personal qualities of the military or the personal qualities of the civil authorities.
To avoid endless military coups in the country, the army must be organized in a strictly defined way.
In the Russian Empire, military coups ended only after the reform of the army, in Turkey the army ceased to be a political force only after the reform of the army, in the USA the army cannot stage a military coup, in England it cannot, in after Napoleon the army is also not capable of coups.


In Turkey in general.. military coups before Erdogan's reform were as familiar to everyone as the sunrise.
I emphasize that it does not matter what kind of state system is in the country. A monarchy or a democratic republic or something else.


It is important how the army is organized.

And coups would have happened in the Soviet Union every month if the Russian Emperor Alexander I had not changed the structure of the army after the military guard overthrew (and killed) his father, Emperor Paul I in 1801.

The main safety valve against coups is the constant rotation of officers.

The same officer does not serve for a long time in one place. All officers, regardless of rank, are constantly being transferred from one duty station to another.

An officer does not acquire connections, soldiers and officers do not appear around him, ready to follow him into fire and water.

In short, the army is a leaky sieve, no conspiracy can be kept secret for more than a couple of days. And you can't prepare anything serious in a couple of days.

And treat coups with foreign invasion.. this is a rather strange idea.
It is very expensive, troublesome and the result is completely unpredictable.

For example, after the "democratic" bloodless February revolution of 1917, which today's USA and Europe would welcome..

The civil war in Russia was unleashed by foreign military units (the Czechoslovak Legion), and the subsequent intervention of the Entente countries (England, , USA) allowed the Bolsheviks to finally establish themselves in the country; the whole people eventually sided with the "Reds".

There are many similar examples in the history of different countries

Botragelad:
Nice thread......
I think it is possible that the United States will still be the world power in the next 100 years.

Can you please explain, how America can be the world power in the next 100 years, if even today China is ahead of the United States economically, and Russia is ahead of the United States militarily?

According to the IMF and the World Bank, China is the world's leading economy today.

and as for the prospects for the G7 as a whole .. for example, here is an article in May in Financial Times "The G7 must accept that it cannot run the world" [url][/url]https://www.ft.com/content/c8cf024d-87b7-4e18-8fa2-1b8a3f3fbba1



As for military power, back in 2021, the former US ambassador to Russia complained, that Russia is ahead of America in some aspects of the field of weapons, and this is a "frightening fact".
first of all, we are talking about nuclear weapons. Not only did it come as a legacy from the USSR, Russian leader Vladimir Putin invested a "fantastic amount of money" in upgrading certain systems.

Yes, Russia is ahead of the United States not only in the number of nuclear warheads, but (most importantly) in delivery vehicles.

In recent years, nuclear parity between countries has been violated for the first time. Because of the latest delivery vehicles, because of systems like Poseidon, Russia can launch a preemptive strike with unacceptable damage and go unpunished.

seguno2:


Why don’t you just share the economic indicators

enjoy:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.PP.CD

Botragelad:

The US has many allies and partners around the world who share its values and interests.

So don't be fooled by the propaganda talk about the US using countries as puppets. Partners are partners/allies, not puppets.

What is the difference between a partner/ally and a puppet?

It seems to me that a partner / ally can have their own interests, but a puppet does not.

Do you think that is an ally / partner of the United States?


Has voluntarily abandoned Russia's cheap energy resources?

Was it in 's national interests to ruin its own industry?

ROFL

Or is it fooled propaganda that the German economy is in recession, that the Russian economy has overtaken the German economy?

For comparison, I will give an example: relations between Turkey and Russia.

Since the emergence of the Republic of Turkey instead of the Ottoman Empire, Turkey has always been and is a pragmatic partner for the USSR / Russia.

Not an ally, but a partner.

For Russia, this is the best option for a border neighbor - a pragmatic partner.



and allies..

The Russian emperor Alexander III once said: Russia has only two allies - its army and navy.

Unions between equal countries can only be situational. Yesterday an ally, today not. In one situation, an ally, in another not - this is normal for equal countries.

pansophist:



4. Most countries are trading with dollars not because it is involatile, but because there is no alternative yet. If an alternative emerges, the migration will be swift. Take a clue from the British pound or the Spanish golden dollar.

the funny thing is that in 2023 the share of the dollar in world trade is only 40%

I do not understand why we are talking about a hundred years of US hegemony in the future?

The United States from an overseas province of no interest to anyone turned into a world-class power only as a result of World War II, but the US was not the hegemon.
Because there was the USSR

The United States became the world hegemon only after the collapse of the USSR.

Today is 2023 on the calendar and the US is no longer the world hegemon. And the US ceased to be the world hegemon obviously not yesterday.

In total, we can only talk about a few decades of hegemony in the past, which from the point of view of history is an instant.

In future history textbooks, they may not even write a single line about this. The fact that the United States - the world hegemon was once

Botragelad:

Arab countries still price their oil in dollars because of a historical agreement they made with the United States in the 1970s...

King Faisal Ibn Abdul Aziz al-Saud once told Nixon about the agreement "trading oil for dollar in exchange for security" that this contract is mutually beneficial, and if relations between the two countries worsen, the United States will lose first of all.
"The Arabs have lived modestly in the desert all their lives, and if the agreement is upset, they will return to their usual way of life again. However, the United States, and, first of all, the American currency, may collapse from this".

As early as March 15, 2022, wsj wrote that Saudi Arabia had begun negotiations with China to trade oil for yuan. see https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-arabia-considers-accepting-yuan-instead-of-dollars-for-chinese-oil-sales-11647351541

And countries that are not US satellites are getting rid of US government debt.
For example, China in four years (since 2019) got rid of 30% of its assets, reducing the amount of investments by more than $250 billion

seguno2:


Are they also an economic minority?

Yes. BRICS countries overtake G7 countries in of GDP. Even a group that includes Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa overtook the G7 countries in of economic indicators.

I wonder why many people here at the forum attach so much importance to the ruble-dollar exchange rate and "worry" about the Russian economy and Russian citizens.

The dollar exchange rate within the country means almost nothing to the population. The ruble is not pegged to the dollar, domestic prices for food, electricity, gas, transport, and the vast majority of goods such as clothing and shoes do not depend on the dollar exchange rate.

Smart people have not kept their savings in dollars / euros for a long time (due to a bunch of sanctions such as disconnection from swift, a ban on the import of cash currency into the country, etc.).

After February 2022, there was an increase in prices for some types of building materials, electronics (=laptops, servers, video cards, and so on), cars, and some medicines.

But since then, Russia has started trading with China, India and many other countries not for the dollar, but for national currencies, so now prices for many medicines/cars/electronics do not depend on the dollar.


And the devaluation of the ruble against the dollar is now beneficial to Russian exporters. Who pay a lot to the Russian budget.

I remind you that Russia is waging war not for the money of private individuals, but for the state budget and the war costs money.

The Russian government at the beginning of the year stated that the most optimal dollar exchange rate is 80-90 rubles, but right now the dollar costs 98 rubles.

What is the tragedy, I don't understand?

Even the most anti-Putin economists in Russia it that only wealthy and very wealthy citizens will suffer from the fall of the ruble.

Well, real whiskey, for example, will soar in price. Or marbled beef from New Zealand and other exclusive Western goods exotic for Russia.

In Russia, completely different things are creating problems now.

The rise in oil prices on the world market is always a problem for us. Because if oil is rising, the price of gasoline is rising==> the price of food is rising.

lexy2014:


You haven't answered my questions.

What has Russia got to do with coup in Niger?

Is it Russia that instigated the coup?

Algeria has gas and is way closer to Europe than nigeria.

So what Russia now do to Algeria?

Algeria buys weapons from Russia (a long-standing and stable buyer) and has the most powerful army in the region. The President of Algeria came to Moscow in June (separately from the Russia-Africa summit). The chief of the Algerian General Staff flew to Moscow to visit the Russian military in July. Algeria has closed the skies to French military and cargo planes. Algeria announced that it would defend its interests in the Sahel during the invasion of Niger.

Russia benefits from any scenario.
The ECOWAS military invasion of Niger is particularly beneficial to Russia.

I have already written here, on the forum, in another thread, why.

AllenSpencer:


Paste your source of info!

Can't you google the words "World Bank website" yourself? And look for a country rating there?

that would be the best way.
but ok, here's the source, enjoy:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.PP.CD

AllenSpencer:


Stop peddling lies!

Pull out your source from verifiable links.


Biggest what?

I understand that psychologically it is very difficult for you to come to with the fact that the Russian economy is the first in Europe and the fifth in the world today, but it is so.

Russia is at war, Russia has the most sanctions imposed on it in the world (14,200), and yet, the Russian economy has overtaken the German one by the end of 2022 and continues to grow.

You can google the World Bank data yourself and check my words, this is open information.

according to the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, the list of Top-5 (GDP, PPP) economies in the world looks like this:
1. China
2. USA
3. India
4. Japan
5. Russia

In Europe:

1. Russia
2.
3.
4. Great Britain
5. Italy

a very funny lying article. It's especially funny about an unhappy retired businessman who has to refuse sweets.

See for yourself.
In large cities of Russia (especially in Moscow), "the food delivery with recipes" service is very popular. How it works (for example let's look at the service 'Шефмаркет":

Choose your menu and dishes (every week, 60 new recipes from chefs); get fresh food (ingredients are packaged for recipes, delivery is free); cook for 15-40 minutes with step-by-step photo recipes and prepared products

You can see how it looks here: https://www.chefmarket.ru/video/cm_unpacking_hires_(720p).mp4

So, for example 5 dinners for TWO persons from the most expensive menu "Balance" (for people involved in sports) costs 4,401 R.

Menu for example:
Beef steaks with warm vegetable salad of zucchini and sweet pepper with yogurt sauce
Sauteed tiger prawns with baked vegetables, quinoa and yogurt tarragon sauce
Tender halibut fillet with tomato relish with avocado, olives and arugula
Rabbit roast with sweet potato, cherry tomatoes, olives and sweet thyme, with pickled zucchini, spicy carrot sauce and almonds
Baked trout with spicy bell pepper tartare and tomato, with vegetable puree and feta cheese sauce with a mix of freshly ground peppers

Of course, if you buy groceries at the supermarket yourself, everything will be much cheaper, even with home delivery. Choose any Russian store's website, go to it yourself and see the prices (use Google translator if you don't know Russian).

And at all. the ruble exchange rate has almost no effect on the cost of food, Russia fully provides itself with food. Imports are only southern fruits.

I do not live in Moscow in the summer, but far outside the city (160 km from Moscow), in a village with a population of 12,000.

Just yesterday I ordered food delivery for 7 days for a family of three; I paid 4,500 Rubles (fresh lamb for grilling, good red wine, fish, milk, cream, beef and chicken, fresh vegetables). and I make sweets myself - it's much tastier and cheaper this way

AllenSpencer:


I thought you said top 5 in Europe. I wanted to know first, second and third in Europe. Russia won’t be found in your list.

Ignore that purchasing power crap. We are talking about the real economy.

Top-5 in Europe:

Russia


Great Britain
Italy


However, if you move your brains, it was not difficult to guess from the previous list. That Russia is the leading economy in Europe today.
If the list of top-5 world economic leaders includes only Russia from all European countries, then Russia is the first economy in Europe.

emerged01:

Sanctions are meant to push citizens against their leaders. In matter of weeks watch how Nigeriens go against the coup leaders when their economy start going down.

And now it will become clear what the deposed president of Niger really is.

If he is the true leader of his country and thinks about his people, he will find a way to appeal to ECOWAS and other countries not to impose sanctions that hit ordinary citizens of Niger.

And if he doesn't say anything, then in Niger they did the right thing by kicking him out. So, this is really a stupid puppet of cruel colonialists. And the sign "democratically elected" means nothing.

emerged01:

Sanctions are meant to push citizens against their leaders. In matter of weeks watch how Nigeriens go against the coup leaders when their economy start going down.

O"Really?

Iran, North Korea, Syria, Serbia, Montenegro, Tunisia and many other African countries, Cuba, Latin American countries, China are laughing. Heavy sanctions have been imposed against these and many other countries from various sources; from the US, from the EU, from the UN..
But Russia laughs the loudest, of course. Most of the sanctions were imposed on it. 14 022 sanctions. Americans also really expected that the Russians were about to rebel against the evil Putin because of this.

The Russians have a saying "щаз, только шнурки поглажу" Means "Yes, I'll just finish scratching my balls/picking my nose, and I'll do it"
No way. When pigs (begin to) fly

If the people the government, sanctions will not force them to take to the streets. On the contrary, the people rally around their leaders and steadfastly endure hardships and eventually achieve their own.

Do not take an example from the logic of Western stupid whites.
This is the logic of white colonialists who are used to using slaves on the plantation - beat a stubborn slave to a pulp with a whip and he will love you, master.

If there were smart people in ECOWAS and in the Nigerian government, they would impose targeted sanctions against specific individuals. And maybe they would have asked the UN, the US, the EU and even Russia to them. So that the leaders' hands were tied and so that the leaders could not use the results of the coup for themselves.

And to arrange a humanitarian catastrophe and think that after that the common people will love democracy and their neighbors who do this to them..

ROFL.

Nigeria will become an enemy for the people of Niger.

When Russia annexed Crimea without firing a shot, the Ukrainian government began to impose sanctions against Crimea.
The North Crimean Fresh Water Channel was blocked (water blockade), electricity from Ukraine stopped being supplied to Crimea, a food and transport blockade (cargo transportation) was declared, financial sanctions were imposed: Ukraine stopped paying pensions to residents of Crimea, servicing bank s, and so on.

And at the same time, Ukraine declared that it loves the people of Crimea very much, that Crimea is Ukrainian territory, that Crimea should return to compliance with the laws.

The same thing happened in the Donbas.

For Crimea and Donbass, the Ukrainian sanctions had a completely opposite effect. Even those who voted against the entry of Crimea into Russia hated Ukraine to death.

Phraences:


A coup has taken place in an ECOWAS country and a democratically elected president has been overthrown and is being held in confinement. Whether they were paying for electricity does not matter. ECOWAS and Nigeria cannot just seat and fold their hands.
...

When Russia annexed Crimea without firing a shot, the Ukrainian government began to impose sanctions against Crimea.
The North Crimean Fresh Water Channel was blocked (water blockade), electricity from Ukraine stopped being supplied to Crimea, a food and transport blockade (cargo transportation) was declared, financial sanctions were imposed: Ukraine stopped paying pensions to residents of Crimea, servicing bank s, and so on.

And at the same time, Ukraine declared that it loves the people of Crimea very much, that Crimea is Ukrainian territory, that Crimea should return to compliance with the laws.

The same thing happened in the Donbas.

don't you think this is a very strange logic? To turn the lives of ordinary people into hell and assume that they will their love for democracy and want to return?
For Crimea and Donbass, the Ukrainian sanctions had a completely opposite effect. Even those who voted against the entry of Crimea into Russia hated Ukraine to death.

Ecowas has imposed sanctions against whom? Against the conspirators?
No.
ECOWAS and the Nigerian Government are punishing ordinary people who cannot influence the situation.
This is the logic of white colonialists who are used to using slaves on the plantation - beat a stubborn slave to a pulp with a whip and he will love you, master.

Moreover, sanctions punish residents not only of Niger, but also residents of Nigeria.

And at the same time , some argue: This is because Niger insulted the great god Democracy. Tell me, does democracy exist for people or do people exist for democracy?
It's terrible how postcolonial countries in Africa and Latin America regularly kill each other every time there is an election in the country. Democratic.Or a military dictatorship.

Why does no one who is used to making human sacrifices to Democracy in these countries come up with a simple thing: there are no such democratic rules in Western countries. This form of democracy was deliberately imposed by the white colonialists on their former colonies in order to keep them under control forever.

In the 90s, too, the Americans imposed such a "democratic" constitution on Russia. Thank God, Yeltsin shot the parliament with tanks in 1993 and the country's Constitution was immediately changed.

Russians were saved by the fact that they have a lot of experience of their own statehood, they quickly realized how dangerous democracy is "for export"

And Africa..

There is such a thing as a cargo cult. Read what it is.
A cargo cult has been imposed on Africa in relation to democracy.

And many countries in Africa live in endless hell because of this.

OmoGomesIlorin:


Please for the rest of the argument on Niger Coup, remove hope in Russia, it is not going to help them. Russia won't want to sabotage its relationship with Nigeria.
..

The Russians, for their part, may think that Nigeria won't want to sabotage its relationship with Russia and will not get involved in an adventure with intervention in Niger.

Because: "Russia, due to the threat of famine in 2023, supplied Nigeria with 34 thousand tons of fertilizers for free", "a meeting with Rosatom on the construction of a nuclear power plant in Nigeria was scheduled at the end of July (I don't know if it took place)", "Russia partially fulfilled the contract for the supply of helicopters to Nigeria" - these are short news headlines in the Russian media for Nigeria over the past month.

In general, you are wrong. Russia has a small trade turnover with Nigeria, in 2021 $ 920 million in total (compare with the leaders in Africa: Egypt - $4.8 billion, Algeria - $3 billion, Morocco - $ 1,6 billion)

As for arms sales, Algeria is a much more profitable (and long-standing) partner of Russia. Do you know Algeria's position on the situation in Niger?

And what are Nigeria's largest trading partners in the world? China ($13,7 billion), India ($13,9 billion), Netherlands ($8,3 billion). China builds 1,980km Oil Pipeline From Niger to Benin Republic.

This is if you think purely from an economic point of view.
But Russians think differently

Russia is at war with Ukraine, and the more problems Western countries that Zelensky and their satellites have, the better for Russia.

Russia has condemned the unconstitutional coup in Niger, but opposes military intervention in the country.
This is the diplomatic position.

But Russia benefits from any scenario in the region. Because in any case, the interests of Western countries will suffer

Perhaps the military option is even more profitable for Russia. Since there is a high probability that the matter will not be limited to a local Niger-Nigeria conflict and the entire Sahel will burn. Then Algeria will be involved, and if Algeria, which supplies gas to Europe, is involved.. Wow! plus, Russia will sell Algeria even more weapons. Plus a wave of refugees to Europe.

PS. I'm from Russia, I saw your comment and it made me laugh very much. From the land of snow and bears, everything looks completely different. It is not Russia that is interested in Nigeria because of the ridiculous 900 million dollars, but Nigeria should be interested in not spoiling relations with Russia and China.

Sorry for my English

UPD. And think about this, please:

Russia simply will not sell the SU-75 to Nigeria for any money. If Nigeria will want to sabotage its relationship with Russia.
Because Russia does not sell the latest weapons to unfriendly countries in principle