NewStats: 3,265,439 , 8,186,750 topics. Date: Saturday, 14 June 2025 at 11:58 PM 2z6p1f

If all Christians can bear the fruit of the Holy Spirit, we can experience Heaven while on earth. There is too much desire for the gift of the Holy Spirit today than the Fruits. People want to manifest for the kingdom without first being ruled by the kingdom. You can have the gifts and go to hell (many received the gifts while in premature repentance), but if you bear the fruit of the Holy Spirit Heaven is sure. Am not saying Gifts are not good; they are good.


STEPS TO BEARING FRUIT OF HOLYSPIRIT
1-Total repentance
2-New Birth/Born again
3-Baptism of the Holy Spirit
4-Abiding in the Word of God
5-Christ nature

God changeth not, you are the one that needs a change, until the totality of your being is transform to Christ nature and you abide in the word of God you start bearing fruit of the Holy Spirit with the help of the Holy Spirit Who dwell in you. it may not be easy but keep your focus on the Master Jesus Christ.
Read 1Corinthians 13, John 15, and book of Galanthians

No wonder the old man wears his army uniform to church this morning. May the souls of the faithfully departed gallant officers rest in peace. Amen

It pays to be faithfull to ones husband/wife

Conflict resolution theories seriously need to be applied there; and this requires consultation of experts. Prayer is also very important.

You quoting bible verse to dis prove peter as the church first pope will not change what is true; no single verse said peter was not a pope. Even the devil quote bible during the temptation of Jesus, the atheist also quote Gen4:13-17 say there other people before Adam and that God didn't create man hence HE does not exist. The traditionalist will quote 2Sam 24:1 and 1chronicles 21:1 to prove that lord= Satan, non-Catholics will quote Mat 13:55 to prove Mary has other children but just check Mat 27:55, Jude1:1, Mark 15:40 you find the real truth.

Some name we gave to things of Christian faith like Bible, Trinity can't be found in the Bible but they are realities. 2Thes 2:15 ask to hold onto the apostolic written and oral truths. That why some information are not found in the scripture but are ed down orally.

On the issue of pope(papa or shepherd) just check Mat16:18 and John21:15-17, Acts 1:15 the remains of St Peter still exist today at St Peters Basilica Rome. Whether he has ever been to Rome check 1Peter 5:13 (NLT).

Nl is not a dictionary, however that word is not familiar and will never be familiar in Nigeria.

The link you posted is broken , though the post exist on NL https://nairaland.macsoftware.info/2502470/see-church-where--worship its not in Nigeria.

Very simple.
create a problem and provide a solution.

I have not seen the image of Robert in any church. That he acted as JESUS CHRIST in a movie does not make him Jesus.

Woman those children belongs to you and him, next time show us a complete family photos(the man included).

The tariff plan is not good for making calls , but the data bonus make sense bb 3gig will be 6gig for 1500.

I swear no place like home, alot of opportunities full 9ja no need to go peep outside.

I will rebuild those hostels when i become president of Nigeria. I don de see wetin zik see years back.

One thing is certain, the spiritual controls the physical. You can change your topic to depict ur post.

brocab:
Sorry I did read it wrong, so God didn't forgive you? God's a forgiven God.
As you can see-we Christians are much different then you Christians, we believe God's a forgiven God, in your case God didn't forgive you. So you tried through His Mother praying the rosary's, and God said so you come through My Mother.
This story still sounds to far fetch-first you say, you had heard God's voice on the mountain, and then after He answered your prayers, you then decided to pray the rosary's asking Mary for that same forgiveness. Why?
Well when Jesus gave us mentors, He gave us some pastors, some teachers, some evangelist, etc. Mary can't teach you, nor can she pastor you, nor evangelise?
Just read back on your prayers page, and you will find your prayer Quote> we said the rosary's with the stations of the cross.
And the voice then said, you come through my mother, you can now, "The rosary is all about meditation.

I felt you do not believe in the rosary nor in Marys intercession. If you have experience the new birth and have receive the baptism of the HolyGhost, ask the HolySpirit for revelations on "Marys intercession and rosary" just ask the HolySpirit.

brocab:
Where did you get this story from?
Repeatedly you went up to the mountain to pray to God, and sang Psalm 51, God then answered you and said. I will forgive you many times.
And then your story changed from receiving forgiveness from God, all of a sudden you decided to pick up the rosaries and start praying to His Mother-wasn't God's forgiveness good enough for you?
Really is it worth the risk, you know you are lying against the word of God, saving yourselves from the condemnation of your Church will not save you. You are lying to yourselves and the Church in this matter, fear God-not the Catholic Church.
Your fears are to far beyond, you said: God answered you, and then what happen the spirit of the Church took God by surprise, and then a second "voice" told you to pick up the Rosaries and start praying to His Mother, Why would God go against His own words, and say, The Rosaries are the station of the cross, again He said, so you come through My Mother.
He had already answered your prayers, forgiven you, isn't that enough?
It seems, with this story you were listening to two voices, God's voice forgave you on the mountain, and the second voice said come and pray the Rosaries.
It seems God isn't worthy of His own authority Psalm 5:2, Acts 7:59, Ephesians 5:20, John 15:16, 16:23.
All these scriptures say we can only pray to God the Father in Jesus name, there are no scriptures written in the bible concerning we pray to Mary the Mother of Jesus.
Mary hasn't got that authority to receive prayers from anybody, nor answer them.
Don't forget Mary said do what ever Jesus tells you to do, she was letting them know Jesus has been given all the authority given by God the Father. No authority was given to Mary the Mother of Jesus, our prayers are directed to God alone. You are wasting your time.

pls bro cab, i don't really know what you did not understand, i will try my best answer some of the issues you raised.
Where did you get this story from?
That was my personal experience December 2013. Since i have been a charismatic; that was first time i experience such.

Repeatedly you went up to the mountain to pray to God, and sang Psalm 51, God then answered you and said. I will forgive you many times.
i was talking a particular encounter here, after the psalm 51 and crying for mercy; the voice still persist, then we ask for Marys intercession through the rosary.
Really is it worth the risk, you know you are lying against the word of God, saving yourselves from the condemnation of your Church will not save you.
what's the lying here, was it that my own experience was a lie, or saying the rosary was a lie against the word of God? John19:26-27 made me understand that Mary is a mother to a disciple. Revelation 5:8 and 8:3-4 tells me that saints offer our prayers to God; how much more of mother of Jesus whom interced in john2:1-11 by just being invited to a wedding. Don't forget this all generations shall call Mary blessed (Luke1:48).
On question of being saved i believed in Jesus Christ see (acts 16:30, Roman 10:9) and always said it in the creed.
and then a second "voice" told you to pick up the Rosaries and start praying to His Mother, Why would God go against His own words, and say, The Rosaries are the station of the cross,
there was no any second voice and i did not see "the rosaries are station of the cross " on my post.

One of my brother had another experience, it happened that one of our charismatic brother left the catholic faith although still friends, one day my brother had a prayer meeting to attend in lagos so stayed with the old friend, now as the old friend came to pick him at the prayer venue, they were about to close and saying the prayer "we fly to thy patronage..." the old friend ed hands with them anointing threw him mightly down. There were many many experiences.

In our relationship with God; its not all about praying in tongues (there are tongues beyond upperroom), vision, prophesy, for many have received the gift of the holy spirit in premature repentance. As you grow spiritually you will have different revelations God, You also need mentors when you outgrow your mentor take another mentor. Holy spirit is really a helper, so is mother Mary an intercessor. May God continue to bless us all.

The rosary is a powerful simple bold prayer. There was a time we went to mountain to pray, as we are asking for Gods mercy a voice audible to us all said "i will not forgive you" many times. We cry for mercy, liedown on bare mountain, sang psalm 51 still the voice persists; Then we said the rosary with the stations of the cross, and the voice then said "so you come through my mother; you can now...". The rosary is all about meditation, contemptlation on the birth, life , death, resurrection of Lord Jesus Christ(joyful,sorrowful,glorious and mysteries of light) and imploying Marys intercession just as She did it cannan added to angelic salute of angel Gabriel. I know some non-catholics do say the chaplet of divine mercy and precious blood of Jesus Christ.

Christianity is all about being Christ like; just as it was recorded in antioch. The problem with some Catholics they don't know what they have and problem with non-Catholics is that "my G.O said.." bread and buyer Christianity forging the cross.

God bless us all.

analice107:

Sweet heart. Catholics are not Christians. Catholicism is a distinct religion, like Islam.

Does it mean the ark of covenant, cheruben, images in the temple of Jerusalem were all idols.
Christianity is all about being Christ like; just as it was recorded in antioch. The apostles headed the Christian sect (Peter was the first pope). The catholic church gave chapters and verses to the Bible and also compile the new testament. The table of last supper, cross on which Jesus was crucified were all preserved in the basilica to this day. Catholics always maintain a daily communion with the almighty through the mass(simple powerful bold communion with heaven and earth, where Christ is both the priest and the offering for sacrifice). Daily reading from the bible plus hymn and simple but powerful prayer, and meditation on the word made flesh(Christ) and try to lead a life were Christ is the model. Christianity is not religion but lifestyle living like Christ.

MRAKPORS:


Not true

Christianity is all about being Christ like; just as it was recorded in antioch. The apostles headed the Christian sect (Peter was the first pope). The catholic church gave chapters and verses to the Bible and also compile the new testament. The table of last supper, cross on which Jesus was crucified were all preserved in the basilica to this day. Catholics always maintain a daily communion with the almighty through the mass(simple powerful bold communion with heaven and earth, where Christ is both the priest and the offering for sacrifice). Daily reading from the bible plus hymn and simple but powerful prayer, and meditation on the word made flesh(Christ) and try to lead a life were Christ is the model. These = Christianity

Touch not my anointed and do my prophet no harm; when the prophet speaks the wise listens.

Well, that was his own personal opinion. December 25 was chosen partly because no one knows the exact date of Christ birth, also because after 25th the world experience longer days, i.e ... the light(CHRIST) entering into the world (jn 1:4-5), partly also to convert the The Roman sun worshipers whom believe that the sun god is the light of the world & usually had their festive on 25th dec. And i know that heaven rejoice over their repentance (Lk 15:7) and it worth celebrating just like the return of prodigal son(LK 15:31-32). In my own case i celebrate christmass because i believe that Christ Jesus is the light of the world (jn 8:12 & jn 9 :5). God made me in his own image image (gen 1:27), in his image am like a light to the world (mat 5:14-16) therefore its my duty to make peace, visit the imprisoned, help the poor, made Christ manifest in whatever i do. I also belive in the sunday sabbath(the first day of the week) because its the day Christ resurrect, penticost, light was made(gen 1:3) and the apostles observe it as its in Acts 20:7 and 1cor 16:2. I have no business with son god. I am in CHRIST JESUS.

Well, that was his own personal opinion. December 25 was chosen partly because no one knows the exact date of Christ birth, also because after 25th the world experience longer days, i.e ... the light(CHRIST) entering into the world (jn 1:4-5), partly also to convert the The Roman sun worshipers whom believe that the sun god is the light of the world & usually had their festive on 25th dec. And i know that heaven rejoice over their repentance (Lk 15:7) and it worth celebrating just like the return of prodigal son(LK 15:31-32). In my own case i celebrate christmass because i believe that Christ Jesus is the light of the world (jn 8:12 & jn 9 :5). God made me in his own image image (gen 1:27), in his image am like a light to the world (mat 5:14-16) therefore its my duty to make peace, visit the imprisoned, help the poor, made Christ manifest in whatever i do. I also belive in the sunday sabbath(the first day of the week) because its the day Christ resurrect, penticost, light was made(gen 1:3) and the apostles observe it as its in Acts 20:7 and 1cor 16:2. I have no business with son god for i am in CHRIST JESUS.