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Atmosfear: 11:17am On Dec 05, 2013
ChickRockz: A Notice to My Fellow Catholic Brothers and Sisters..The Protestants are out to get us..I've been following the religion section for a while and the bone of contention seems to be that we worship Mary and have statues which makes us idol worshippers..please stop trying to convince them..Silence is the best answer for a fool..Ignorance is bliss...stop drinking panadol for their headache..if they like let them rant and rave from today till infinity..I will not change the fact that you are a Catholic..unless your faith isn't strong..Stop the Arguments!!! I ire the fact that many here are trying to defend their faith,but...they won't understand..they will never understand..unless its by the grace of God..So please ignore them

Honour mary my ass. This is what I see idol worshippers/pagans do. This was how the catholics denied the heliocentric earth and jailed Galileo then apologised 350 years later! How you promote and enjoy ignorance in god's name!

Atmosfear: 9:09am On Dec 05, 2013
angiemartinez: you better do before she finds out herslf. buh sincerely must you lie to get a womans love?

Unfortunately yes. Experience have thought men that women love lies that give good impression of future gains.There is a saying "he who does not lie to a woman does not respect her feelings". It works wonderfully until the cover is blown at her expense.Women want a better standard of living ("caring"winkthrough relationships,otherwise it goes cold.

Like wise women lie too!!! All that fake appearances, brazillian hair,nails,pads,etc and how many men they have been with.

Both ways it is a fragile foundation;bound to fail.
Atmosfear: 2:29pm On Dec 04, 2013
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HisRib: Romance should be mandatory in every relationship. Most couples shy away from it because they've been tricked into believing one needs to have a large amount of money in order to be romantic.

I'm going to teach you five ways you can implement romance into your relationship without having to spending too much money:

1) Quality Time

Spending quality time with your significant other can be quite romantic. There are many ways you can spend this time with you partner. I would recommend watching movies (at home), going for a walk, cooking together, shopping together and much more. During quality time, you have your partner's undivided attention. That's what makes it so romantic.

2) Romantic Dinner at Home

You don't always have to go to a fancy restaurant to have a romantic dinner. You can have it at the comfort of your own home and make it special in your own way. What's better than being at home with your lover, eating delicious food and listening to slow/sexy music? And of course after dinner, we all know what's going to happen in the bedroom.

3) Fun Activities

There are so many fun activities for couples out there. Plan something! If you are the boring type of couple, why not do something out of your element? Do something out of the norm.

4) Romantic Gateway

Not everyone can afford to go to Mexico, Monaco, Barcelona or the Bahamas for a romantic vacation. That stuff is great, but it's also overrated. Why not book a weekend at a 4 or 5 star hotel in your city? Not only is it cheaper, it also gives you the chance to explore and create memories in your own city. Or, you can visit another city within your country. It's amazing the things we discover when we stop taking what we have for granted. There's a lot to discover in your city/country. This is your chance.

5) Sex

Yes, that's right! I'm talking about the type of sex where you take your time to make sure your partner is fully satisfied.
Small tip for the Ladies: when he comes home from work, meet him at the door naked and slowly bring him to the room and rock his world. Don't just do the same routine sex like everyday. Once in a while, light it up in the bedroom and I guarantee you, he'll be hooked to your hip forever.


Please Note: I offer free relationship advice and guidance. If you have any questions about your relationship or love life, ask here: http://askhisrib.weebly.com/ask-his-rib.html // I also started a thread on here where I've been giving advice. Feel free to ask your questions there as well.



African women are hardly original. You must have copied this from some western media how whites do their thing. Nigerian ladies watch too much television and want to use naija men for practice.Imitation!!


5) Sex

Yes, that's right! I'm talking about the type of sex where you take your time to make sure your partner is fully satisfied.
Small tip for the Ladies: when he comes home from work, meet him at the door naked and slowly bring him to the room and rock his world. Don't just do the same routine sex like everyday. Once in a while, light it up in the bedroom and I guarantee you, he'll be hooked to your hip forever.
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With time sex becomes more of a duty than romance to men.With all the fake hair, nails,eyelashes stripped the tripping factor is gone.He will only pretend and 'fulfill righteousness' Adviced only at the beginning.
Atmosfear: 11:19am On Dec 04, 2013
Tomoarika: I think dis shd be in Romance Section.

I was a Corper serving in a Bank. She was transferred to my Branch and I was to work directly under her. We hit it off after a while although she was somewhat strict and aloof at first.
She was hot, pretty, very smart, early to mid thirties (bt in great shape like a twenty year old), sassy and stylish... I mean what's not to like! I discovered we had a lot in common and we even had the same Alma Mata!
I would return to the office after CDS every week and she would ask me to buy something for her when coming.
We talked a lot, abt our Uni days and how our social lives were back then (mine was pretty much non-existent and she always teased me abt it).

One day after the close of business with just the two of us in the office (my work desk and hers at abt 45 degress apart facing each) she walked over to my desk, eyes shining radiantly, her face all smiles. I thought to myself, could dis be happening? Was it going to happen right there and then? All sorts of thoughts going through my mind. I was going to get it!

SCAMMER!!!!!!!! grin

That's when she approached me and said....

To be continued. (Battery Low)
Atmosfear: 2:16pm On Dec 02, 2013
densel: martronilla( f ): 7:11am
Different people; different religion... he has no right to say
such. who da hell does he think he is? I am not trying to
oppose his statement because I am a catholic. I will never
criticise another man's way of worship... We catholics know
what we are doing.... if he thinks we are following the wrong
path, then let him leave that for God to judge on the last
day. They insist we are idol worshippers.... they have said all
sorts of trash abt catholics but I do not let them get to
me.... We are all xtians and we serve the same God but in
different ways.... leave matter for mathias.... they claim we
'Worship' Mary bt we do not..... instead, we honour her as
the woman chosen to conceive the saviour.... she wasnt
special, she wasnt d only virgin bt she was selected by God.
so, she deserves to be honoured.... the statues u see in our
churches are not worshipped.... just the way u have faith in
ur bibles, so do we have faith in the satues.... God is not the
only one we should have faith in... faith is a supernatural gift
from God which enables us to beleive without doubting
whatever God has revealed. anytime I see posts on the
internet abt catholics being critised, I simply Ignore them
but today, I had an urge to comment on this thread.... like I
said earlier, let us leave this for God to judge.... Peace be
with you all.

would you say the same if this attack Was about Jehovah Witnesses?...... just asking.

Black man and the god delusion.The white man and other races have moved on,what a pity

Atmosfear: 3:16pm On Dec 01, 2013
Just wondering. In non-christian countries with successful marriages which 'pastors' do god speak through? Or the devil gives a helping hand here. God must have approved of Chris okotie's two failed marraiges before God changed his mind.
Chei! Pastors dey very busy in this lucrative business.

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Atmosfear: 2:18pm On Dec 01, 2013
Ishilove:
My sister, you have said it all. If my husband cannot stand in gap for me and encourage me in the Lord when I am weak, the home is in trouble. I shouldn't be the one carrying the whole spiritual load, my husband should be able to bear it with me.

Women again with religious crap,always blaming the man. Imaginary 'spiritual load'. Try some financial load the man Will really appreciate.so you can be an asset and not a liability. No wonder pastors mess up your minds.Spiro!!!
Atmosfear: 1:11pm On Nov 22, 2013
Forwarded by: FEMI AWODELE

5 WAYS THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL IS HURTING AFRICA

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’m not an African, but in 2008 some Nigerian friends gave me a

Yoruba name (“Akinwale”) because I have been to that country

so often. My visits there, along with trips to Uganda, Kenya,

Malawi, South Africa and Egypt, planted a deep love for Africa

in my heart. My first grandson’s arrival this year from

Ethiopia made the connection even stronger.

I’m often asked to describe how God is moving in Africa today.

Since I’m an optimist, I usually tell of the large churches,

the ionate praise and the intense spiritual hunger that

characterizes African Christianity. But there is also a dark

side, and I think it’s time we addressed one of the most

serious threats to faith on the continent.

I’m talking about the prosperity gospel. Of course, I know a

slick version of this message is preached in the United

States—and I know we are the ones who exported it overseas. I

am not minimizing the damage that prosperity preaching has

done in my own country. But I have witnessed how some African

Christians are taking this money-focused message to new and

even more dangerous extremes.

Here are five reasons the prosperity message is damaging the

continent of Africa today:

1. It is mixed with occultism. Before Christianity came to

Nigeria, people visited witch doctors and sacrificed goats or

cows to get prosperity. They poured libations on the ground so

the gods would hear their prayers. Today similar practices

continue, only the juju priest has been replaced by a pastor

who drives a Mercedes-Benz. I am aware of a pastor who buried

a live animal under the floor of his church to win God’s

favor. Another pastor asked his congregants to bring bottles

of sand to church so he could anoint them; he then told the

people to sprinkle the sand in their houses to bring

blessings. The people who follow these charlatans are reminded

that their promised windfall won’t materialize unless they

give large donations.

2. It fuels greed. Any person who knows Christ will learn the

joy of giving to others. But the prosperity gospel teaches

people to focus on getting, not giving. At its core it is a

selfish and materialistic faith with a thin Christian veneer.

Church are continually urged to sow financial seeds to

reap bigger and bigger rewards. In Africa, entire conferences

are dedicated to collecting offerings in order to achieve

wealth. Preachers boast about how much they paid for suits,

shoes, necklaces and watches. They tell their followers that

spirituality is measured by whether they have a big house or a

first-class ticket. When greed is preached from the pulpit, it

spreads like a cancer in God’s house.

3. It feeds pride. This greedy atmosphere in prosperity

churches has produced a warped style of leadership. My Kenyan

friend Gideon Thuranira, editor of Christian Professional

magazine, calls these men “churchpreneurs.” They plant

churches not because they have a burden to reach lost souls

but because they see dollar signs when they fill an auditorium

with chairs. A selfish message produces bigheaded opportunists

who need position, applause and plenty of perks to keep them

happy. The most successful prosperity preacher is the most

dangerous because he can convince a crowd that Jesus died to

give you and me a Lexus.

4. It works against the formation of Christian character. The

prosperity message is a poor imitation of the gospel because

it leaves no room for brokenness, suffering, humility or

delay. It offers an illegal shortcut. Prosperity preachers

promise instant results and overnight success; if you don’t

get your breakthrough, it’s because you didn’t give enough

money in the offering. Jesus calls us to deny ourselves and

follow Him; prosperity preaching calls us to deny Jesus and

follow our materialistic lusts. There is a leadership crisis

in the African church because many pastors are so set on

getting rich, they can’t go through the process of

discipleship that requires self-denial.

5. It actually keeps people in poverty. The government of

Malawi is currently under international scrutiny because of

fraud carried out by top leaders. The saddest thing about the

so-called “Cashgate” scandal is that professing Christians in

the istration of President Joyce Banda have been

implicated. One of these people stole millions of kwacha from

the government and hid the cash in a teddy bear! Most people

today in Malawi live on less than $1 a day, yet their leaders

have been known to buy fleets of cars and huge plots of land

with money that was not theirs. Sadly, the prosperity gospel

preached in Malawi has encouraged pastors and leaders to

follow the same corrupt pattern. As a result, God’s people

have been financially exploited.

When Jesus described false prophets as wolves in sheep’s

clothing, He warned us to examine their fruit. Matthew 7:17

says, “So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree

bears bad fruit” (NASB). What is the fruit of prosperity

preaching?

Churches have been growing rapidly in many parts of Africa

today, yet sub-Saharan Africa is the only region in the world

where poverty has increased in the past 25 years. So according

to the statistics, the prosperity gospel is not bringing

prosperity! It is a flawed message, but I believe God will use

selfless, broken African leaders to correct it.

J. Lee Grady is the former editor of Charisma and the director

of the Mordecai Project. You can follow him on Twitter at

@leegrady. He is preaching in Kenya this week.

Atmosfear: 4:31pm On Nov 12, 2013
taharqa: 1st, there is nothing like 'race' biological speaking, just Population Clusters and Clines; that's why I en-quoted 'Black man'. But you are right: Sickle Cell Anaemia isn't strictly a disease of 'Black' people, even though the vast majority of people who are carriers are 'Black' Or are descendants of 'Black', esp if they are carrying d Benin-type Variation of d disease (which with d Cameroon-type, are d most pervasive in d world). It is important to stress though that this propensity for 'Black' people and/or their descendants to been carriers of d Variation isn't 'racial' or have any particularly innate biological reasons, but just a Variation that came about and was increased in frequency as an inherited trait due to d need for Africans living in a tropical and wet environment for thousands of years to deal with d menance of Malaria...... Thanks though for d observation and correction

Please read this wonderful book The making of the fittest by Sean B. Carroll. ebook version at http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEAQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pdfbook.co.ke%2Fdetails.php%3Ftitle%3DThe%2520Making%2520of%2520the%2520Fittest%26author%3DSean%2520B.%2520Carroll%26category%3DReligion%26eid%3D16327%26type%3DBook%26popular%3D15&ei=D0mCUqO4DMaBhAfR-IHADw&usg=AFQjCNFrppIDpW9uM2wq_qGt_t45grHLOA

You will better understand the evolutionary necessity of the "sickler" syndrome in the tropics.
Atmosfear: 4:27pm On Nov 12, 2013
texazzpete:

I hope you realize that your logic is also saying the Lord approves of every successful armed robbery episode too?

This is a thorny issue (why good or bad things happen). It's a topic you're advised to steer clear of before one of the NL atheists descends on you cheesy

Thank you texa. "Spiro" Bright (is not bright either) displays the ignorance imposed by religion.God "approves" sickle cell and when man finds the cure he cannot help but "approve" again for the delusion to be sustained. Black man wake up!! The dark ages is over!


Bright is still seeking "fruit of the womb" and "life partner" promised by MoG.

Soon no more "deliverance" from sickle cell! I'm so elated this was done in my Ugbowo neighborhood. Up UBTH!!!
Atmosfear: 10:29am On Nov 12, 2013
Medical science is great !!!!! This is a real miracle to disappoint the bible miracle merchants like TB Joshua, Adeboye, Oyedekpo et al.

This "miracle" department cashcow will soon close for them. Up science!! grin
Atmosfear: 5:29pm On Nov 06, 2013
God created man.

Who created God?
Atmosfear: 4:55pm On Oct 25, 2013
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Fake Lifers!!!!

This is all you spend guys money on!!!

Liabilities!!

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Atmosfear: 4:12pm On Oct 14, 2013
PASTORS ROBBING WIDOWS OF THEIR HOUSES

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[Subject] We find it very difficult in Nigeria Churches

[Message] Dear Mr. Aribisala,

Thank you very much for talking about paying tithes. This is the main problem I and my children are just complaining about. We started going to Nigerian Church in London since February, we used to attend Catholic Church, but due to our spiritual problems we decided to find a C&S church to go. Honestly, it is worse than you think, most of the sermon every time is based on paying tithe, even after you paid the tithe then they will still circle round the trays for nothing less than five to eight times asking for more money, this and that. I am a widow, I and my children decided we cannot keep up with this. This is real business, even the preacher says even if you do not work you can pay your tithe on your weekly benefits. They make you feel guilty and say you are rubbing God by not paying your tithe. My problem now is how can we find a Nigerian Church in London that will not will be singing tithe, tithe tithe in our ears every time we go to Church?
Atmosfear: 4:03pm On Oct 14, 2013
In A nutshell

Tithing Bananas

on May 05, 2013 / in Article of Faith 12:46 am / Comments

By Femi Aribisala
According to the scriptures, money is not acceptable as tithe; it has to be food-crops or livestock.

As far as many pastors are concerned, the most important scripture of all is not to be found in the word of Jesus. Neither is it even in the New Testament. That scripture says: “‘Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house, and try me now in this,’ says the LORD of hosts, ‘If I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you such blessing that there will not be room enough to receive it.’” (Malachi 3:10).

This scripture is drummed repeatedly into Christians on Sundays. However, the only time Jesus mentioned tithing in scripture, he pointed out that it was not a weighty matter of the law. (Matthew 23:23). Hebrews says people only receive tithes “according to the law.” (Hebrews 7:5). It then insists tithing (and everything else under the law) has been annulled: “The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless.” (Hebrews 7:18-19). Nevertheless, mercenary pastors continue to insist on the payment of tithes.

Latter-day Pharisees

Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for keeping part instead of the whole law. (Matthew 23:23). That is what tithe-collecting pastors do today. If we insist our congregants must pay tithes, we must also insist that they keep the rest of the law. James says: “Whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.” (James 2:10). Therefore, if we insist on tithing, we should also refrain from eating pork. We should stone adulterers, execute homosexuals, kill Sabbath violators and restore blood-sacrifices.

Tithe-collecting pastors counter this by maintaining the payment of tithes pre-dated the law. Here Abraham is cited as the cardinal example of someone who paid tithes before the promulgation of the Law of Moses, as did Jacob, his grandson. However, such arguments are disingenuous.

Before the law, tithing was at best an example but not a commandment. Moreover, pastors fail to mention that Abraham only tithed once in his lifetime. When he did, he did not even tithe his own money: he tithed the spoils of war. He gave ten percent of the plunder he took when he rescued Lot to Melchisedec, king of Salem. But then he did not even keep the rest but returned it (all ninety percent) to the king of Sodom.

For his part, Jacob also tithed only once. He did this in a “let’s make a deal” arrangement he offered to God: “Jacob made a vow, saying, ‘If God will be with me, and keep me in this way that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on, so that I come back to my father’s house in peace, then the LORD shall be my God. And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God’s house, and of all that you give me I will surely give a tenth to you.’” (Genesis 28:20-22). This kind of deal about accepting God only under certain self-serving conditions should certainly not be a term of reference for any serious believer.

Lies upon lies

The first lie pastors tell Christians is what some have referred to as “the eleventh commandment:” “Thou shalt pay thy tithes to thy local church.” But the bible says no such thing. The storehouse of Malachi was not a church. It was a place where food was kept.

Pastors hide from church- the fact that money was not acceptable as tithe. The tithe was a tenth of the seed and fruit of the land and of the animals which ate of the land. (Leviticus 27:30-32). That is why God says: “Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be FOOD in my house.” (Malachi 3:10). He does not say “that there may be MONEY in my house.” The food was used to feed the Levites, the poor, widows, orphans and strangers.

Pastors also conveniently fail to teach the biblical tithe. The principles of tithing were not laid down by Malachi. They were laid down by Moses. The study of Moses’ guidelines quickly reveals that the biblical tithe has no application whatsoever to Christians and is mischievously violated by tithe-collecting pastors today.

According to the Law of Moses, the tithe was divided into three allocations. The first year, it was given to the Levite. The second year, it was given to widows, orphans and the poor. The third year, it was eaten in the company of the faithful before the Lord as thanksgiving for his faithfulness. (Deuteronomy 14:22-28). In the seventh year, there was no planting and no reaping and therefore no tithing.

So the next time your pastor asks you to pay tithe, ask him about the seventh-year reprieve. Also ask him if you can give your tithe to the orphanage, or bring it as food items to be eaten in church. Believe me; he will not agree with you because it is your money he is after.

Inapplicability of tithes

Tithing was only applicable to Jews and to the land of Israel. When large populations of Jews lived in Babylon, Ammon, Moab, Egypt, and Syria, these lands became tithe-able lands. However, tithes were not acceptable from strictly Gentile lands. So you need to ask your pastor how come he is collecting tithes in Nigeria.

Servants or slaves who worked on the land did not tithe because the land did not belong to them. Since only agricultural and animal resources were included, a fisherman gave no tithe of his fisheries. Neither did a miner or a carpenter pay tithes, nor anyone from the various professional occupations. So if you are not a farmer or a keeper of livestock, tell your 419 pastor tithing is biblically inapplicable to you.

Moreover, the only people authorised to receive tithes were the Levites. (Hebrews 7:5). So if your Pastor is a “tithe-collector,” ask him if he happens to be a Jew. Remind him that, even though a Jew, Jesus could not receive the tithe because he was not from the tribe of Levi but from that of Judah.

The trick, of course, is for pastors today to claim we are “Levites.” If your pastor is one such dissembler, ask him if he lives as a Levite. Remind him that Levites had no land and did not have private property. Ask him also how he knows he is from the tribe of Levi, which happens to be one of the lost tribes of Israel. Point out to him that even Jewish rabbis don’t claim to be Levites today because all Jewish genealogical records were lost with the destruction of the Temple in AD 70, ensuring that it is no longer possible to ascertain the true identity of Levites.

Therefore, if Jews no longer tithe because the Levites are a lost tribe, how can Christian pastors collect tithes when we are not even Jewish, how much more Levites? If Jewish rabbis, whose of reference remain the Old Testament no longer collect tithes, then pastors who insist Christians are under a New Testament have no business doing so.
- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/05/tithing-bananas/#sthash.ywcK9wj3.dpuf

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Atmosfear: 3:51pm On Sep 12, 2013
Food for thought.
Slowly the church is trying to satisfy the world, if you can't beat the world it!!!!

Atmosfear: 11:49am On Sep 11, 2013
Atmosfear: I am interested in this line of business. You sell them through chic fashion boutiques and saloon by word of mouth. me at [email protected]. Ladies love them, I have a few from ,too expensive

Still waiting for you to me.Email [email protected]
Atmosfear: 8:59pm On Sep 09, 2013
NnamdiN: Ehm yeah. Like I have someone that is willing to send me adult toys from Asia grin I feel like I'm gonna directly/indirectly be involved in promoting immorality. I know it's a kinda immoral business line (against some religious beliefs) and I also know the se x industry is a multi billion dollar industry. I've just "graduated" and without a "job". I tried consoling myself with the fact that I'm gonna concentrate on married folks, but we all know that majority of the s of these toys are unmarried folks. (especially *u know dem na*).

Truth is, the only thing stopping me is, I do not know how and where to get customers for that ish. Plus, it's something I find difficult to explain to people. My religious beliefs won't stop me.
I am interested in this line of business. You sell them through chic fashion boutiques and saloon by word of mouth. me at [email protected]. Ladies love them, I have a few from ,too expensive
Atmosfear: 3:31pm On Sep 09, 2013
angry

Atmosfear: 10:43am On Aug 29, 2013
STAGE MANAGEMENT!!! grin

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Atmosfear: 2:04pm On Aug 25, 2013
Losing your religion!!! We are legion. Most churchgoers are pretenders anyway. Play golf.
Atmosfear: 7:02pm On Aug 24, 2013
Please folks what's the president doing in aso rocks.
Atmosfear: 3:10pm On Aug 22, 2013
FOOD FOR THOUGHT


Tithing Bananas

on May 05, 2013 / in Article of Faith 12:46 am / Comments

By Femi Aribisala
According to the scriptures, money is not acceptable as tithe; it has to be food-crops or livestock.

As far as many pastors are concerned, the most important scripture of all is not to be found in the word of Jesus. Neither is it even in the New Testament. That scripture says: “‘Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house, and try me now in this,’ says the LORD of hosts, ‘If I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you such blessing that there will not be room enough to receive it.’” (Malachi 3:10).

This scripture is drummed repeatedly into Christians on Sundays. However, the only time Jesus mentioned tithing in scripture, he pointed out that it was not a weighty matter of the law. (Matthew 23:23). Hebrews says people only receive tithes “according to the law.” (Hebrews 7:5). It then insists tithing (and everything else under the law) has been annulled: “The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless.” (Hebrews 7:18-19). Nevertheless, mercenary pastors continue to insist on the payment of tithes.

Latter-day Pharisees

Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for keeping part instead of the whole law. (Matthew 23:23). That is what tithe-collecting pastors do today. If we insist our congregants must pay tithes, we must also insist that they keep the rest of the law. James says: “Whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.” (James 2:10). Therefore, if we insist on tithing, we should also refrain from eating pork. We should stone adulterers, execute homosexuals, kill Sabbath violators and restore blood-sacrifices.

Tithe-collecting pastors counter this by maintaining the payment of tithes pre-dated the law. Here Abraham is cited as the cardinal example of someone who paid tithes before the promulgation of the Law of Moses, as did Jacob, his grandson. However, such arguments are disingenuous.

Before the law, tithing was at best an example but not a commandment. Moreover, pastors fail to mention that Abraham only tithed once in his lifetime. When he did, he did not even tithe his own money: he tithed the spoils of war. He gave ten percent of the plunder he took when he rescued Lot to Melchisedec, king of Salem. But then he did not even keep the rest but returned it (all ninety percent) to the king of Sodom.

For his part, Jacob also tithed only once. He did this in a “let’s make a deal” arrangement he offered to God: “Jacob made a vow, saying, ‘If God will be with me, and keep me in this way that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on, so that I come back to my father’s house in peace, then the LORD shall be my God. And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God’s house, and of all that you give me I will surely give a tenth to you.’” (Genesis 28:20-22). This kind of deal about accepting God only under certain self-serving conditions should certainly not be a term of reference for any serious believer.

Lies upon lies

The first lie pastors tell Christians is what some have referred to as “the eleventh commandment:” “Thou shalt pay thy tithes to thy local church.” But the bible says no such thing. The storehouse of Malachi was not a church. It was a place where food was kept.

Pastors hide from church- the fact that money was not acceptable as tithe. The tithe was a tenth of the seed and fruit of the land and of the animals which ate of the land. (Leviticus 27:30-32). That is why God says: “Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be FOOD in my house.” (Malachi 3:10). He does not say “that there may be MONEY in my house.” The food was used to feed the Levites, the poor, widows, orphans and strangers.

Pastors also conveniently fail to teach the biblical tithe. The principles of tithing were not laid down by Malachi. They were laid down by Moses. The study of Moses’ guidelines quickly reveals that the biblical tithe has no application whatsoever to Christians and is mischievously violated by tithe-collecting pastors today.

According to the Law of Moses, the tithe was divided into three allocations. The first year, it was given to the Levite. The second year, it was given to widows, orphans and the poor. The third year, it was eaten in the company of the faithful before the Lord as thanksgiving for his faithfulness. (Deuteronomy 14:22-28). In the seventh year, there was no planting and no reaping and therefore no tithing.

So the next time your pastor asks you to pay tithe, ask him about the seventh-year reprieve. Also ask him if you can give your tithe to the orphanage, or bring it as food items to be eaten in church. Believe me; he will not agree with you because it is your money he is after.

Inapplicability of tithes

Tithing was only applicable to Jews and to the land of Israel. When large populations of Jews lived in Babylon, Ammon, Moab, Egypt, and Syria, these lands became tithe-able lands. However, tithes were not acceptable from strictly Gentile lands. So you need to ask your pastor how come he is collecting tithes in Nigeria.

Servants or slaves who worked on the land did not tithe because the land did not belong to them. Since only agricultural and animal resources were included, a fisherman gave no tithe of his fisheries. Neither did a miner or a carpenter pay tithes, nor anyone from the various professional occupations. So if you are not a farmer or a keeper of livestock, tell your 419 pastor tithing is biblically inapplicable to you.

Moreover, the only people authorised to receive tithes were the Levites. (Hebrews 7:5). So if your Pastor is a “tithe-collector,” ask him if he happens to be a Jew. Remind him that, even though a Jew, Jesus could not receive the tithe because he was not from the tribe of Levi but from that of Judah.

The trick, of course, is for pastors today to claim we are “Levites.” If your pastor is one such dissembler, ask him if he lives as a Levite. Remind him that Levites had no land and did not have private property. Ask him also how he knows he is from the tribe of Levi, which happens to be one of the lost tribes of Israel. Point out to him that even Jewish rabbis don’t claim to be Levites today because all Jewish genealogical records were lost with the destruction of the Temple in AD 70, ensuring that it is no longer possible to ascertain the true identity of Levites.

Therefore, if Jews no longer tithe because the Levites are a lost tribe, how can Christian pastors collect tithes when we are not even Jewish, how much more Levites? If Jewish rabbis, whose of reference remain the Old Testament no longer collect tithes, then pastors who insist Christians are under a New Testament have no business doing so.

The conclusion then is inescapable. Every pastor who collects tithes is nothing but “a thief and a robber.” (John 10:1).

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Atmosfear: 1:40pm On Aug 20, 2013
Perfect. Locally made and foreign will compete side by side. When is the pilgrimage coming?

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Atmosfear: 11:16am On Aug 15, 2013
Some curious facts from this thread.
God is a single parent: Jesus being the son of god without god having a wife!
To fill this vacuum introduce mighty Mary.
Traditional/chieftaincy title in heaven "Queen of heaven"; where is the king?. undecided
She is of course sitting at the left hand of God and jesus the right hand side.
Now she is also of virgin birth and rose into the clouds like jesus-no death.
Joseph is the step father of jesus since the holy spirit did the job for him. grin
Poor joseph did not even consummate the marraige after his "wife" was used since good Catholics jesus had no siblings wink
Jesus has half the DNA of mary so how come he is descended from the line of Joseph,abraham,david,etc shocked
Matthew has 40 generations and luke 28.
Confusion galore.
Am I losing my religion like the Westerners?
Atmosfear: 12:31pm On Aug 14, 2013
justified prostitution cheesy You will eventually have daughters.Imagine they pose this question to you.
Atmosfear: 12:17pm On Aug 11, 2013
Pls is it not somewhere that a little wine is good for the stomach? That wine maketh merry?

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Atmosfear: 8:28am On Aug 03, 2013
oyinglory: Funke isn't lukin radiant as b4, why?
[color=#006600][/color].

MANopause
Atmosfear: 4:51am On Aug 01, 2013
For the overlove of money,waiting for the next naija scam. God creates devil uses!
Atmosfear: 7:03pm On Jul 31, 2013
For what

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