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I'm An Ikwerre Man, My Claiming Igbo Was Just Political - Rotimi Amaechi - Politics (10) - Nairaland 4x2j28

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Akungitit: 2:23am On Jun 05
Annangs and Efiks speak a language similar to the Ibibios but the Ibibios have never called them Ibibios.

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AguluLiar: 2:23am On Jun 05
IyfeNamikaze:
The Oil in Rivers is in Both the Igbo areas and Ikwere areas, but it's more in the Ijaw part part of Rivers state.


No Ibo in Rivers state

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aribisala0(m): 2:24am On Jun 05
oluwaahmed:

What you are saying is tantamount to people In benè republic or togo saying the yorubas are settlers & not indigenous because yorubas exist primarily in Nigeria. The fact that politicians & colonialists draw border lines fir their advantage does not mean the indigenous people are stupid. Ikwerres are confirmed igbo people. Their kings are referred to as Igwe or Eze, their language is like 70% igbo and they behave like igbo people- proud & stubborn. Ok Duncan mighty is ikwerre but see the title of his song. It's translated Jesus is king in both ikwerre & igbo
Their language is not 70% Igbo That is not true

Ikwerre is a distinct language

Your logic about Benin is upside down

Ikwerre people do not identify as Igbos
They NEVER did
They used to sell Igbos whom they call Isuoma as slaves


There are many languages that are close or similar that does not make them dialects
Good examples are French, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese. They belong to the family of languages called the Romance family

Spanish people cannot say Portuguese people are Spanish because they bear names like Roberto, Eduardo, Maria, Anna, Ronaldo or Antonio

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pquaver(m): 2:55am On Jun 05
Zulu11zulu:
I told my people long time ago not to trust amechi to me I never and he just confirms it.

If you want to be Nigeria president you must hate igbo to please your master if not tell me why amaech will make that statement, though he think he will deceived fulani it doesn't matter what you call your self they see you as igbo man.

Or you trying to press yeruba mumu button.

I don't know who advise him to make that statement that person just kill his political carrier that person is political enemies to him.

Even if your papa tell you that your not igbo what your benefits of coming out to say it, know where will you get your vote yeruba will not leave tinubu and vote for you, fulani will not leave Atiku to vote for you igbo man will not leave obi to vote for you, even your ikwerre man will not vote for you.

Why will He Not make the Statement? He Always identified AS igbo but when Push came to shove ndiigbo choose wike WHO never identified AS igbo and Goodluck who ist ijaw and threw amaechi Under the Bus ,yet u Want him to identify with u...never Impossible tense!!!!

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Konquest: 3:17am On Jun 05
aribisala0:
Their language is not 70% Igbo That is not true

Ikwerre is a distinct language

Your logic about Benin is upside down

Ikwerre people do not identify as Igbos
They NEVER did
They used to sell Igbos whom they call Isuoma as slaves


There are many languages that are close or similar that does not make them dialects
Good examples are French, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese. They belong to the family of languanges called the Romance family

Spanish people cannot say Portuguese people are Spanish because they bear names like Ronaldo or Antonio
True that.

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Konquest: 3:19am On Jun 05
aribisala0:
Ikwerre have been saying they are not Igbo even before independence in 1960
They went to the WIllinks Commission to assert that fact

Do you know about the Willinks Commission?

They formed Ogbakor Ikwerre BEFORE Ohanaeze

Your Story about a killing spree in Port Harcourt is a lie.



Can you give us a date for when this happened>

Can you provide a source for that claim

You are telling lies

Even before Independence Ikwerre were agitating against Igbo domination and sought to assert a separate Identity

As usual Igbos just sit down and concoct fictional stories without any evidence

Ikwerres have ALWAYS DENIED BEING IGBO and this goes back before 1960 independence

UpaIweka: 5:22am On Jun 05
Weep not child but your tears go sweet me.

soak[quotenauthor=ERockson post=135623510]Lol. I have never heard Amaechi spoke the truth. He lies a lot. You're not serious if you take Amaechi serious. [/quote]
viodemus: 5:48am On Jun 05
Spandau:

A person said he is not Ibo, you're annoyed. Why is it difficult for you to just accept a simple statement. You people are the only ethnic group that likes to determine other people's identity. Isn't that preposterous? Why do you want to sustain that "majority tribe" narrative by swallowing other ethnic groups? You just find it so difficult to swallow facts. Ikwerres are not Ibos. Period!!



Where did he say he is not Igbo, and who is forcing him or anyone in that denial.

Guy, believe it or not, majority of ikwerre, and over 88% of the people in Rivers are igbos, take it or leave it.

The question is, why are you and other bully tribes like you, around to bully igbos? Na you dey wait for one perceived atom of igbo doubt for Rivers. and other Igbo areas, especially in the SS and middle belt. What is wrong in Igbos acknowledging themselves and seeing how they can cooperatively plan and grow like yorubas, like hausas, fulanis. Nobody questions fulanis that are minorities everywhere in west africa; and they also acknowledge themselves; same as yorubas, etc. but when na igbo turn, all the haters will come out of the forest to make sure that division still exists.


You guys should be tired by now, always doing monitoring spirit of the igbos all around the so called SE and SS. You guys like to see igbos and use bully tactics, - you no be igbo shey, you are SS shey; You guys are so obsessed with igbo division, but our chukwu una.


Why is it wrong for say igbos in the SS, know that those in the SE are their tribesmen, like africans in diaspora and Africans on the continent. Yorubas even try to claim Brazilians, when the truth is, majority of the Brazilians are igbos more than any other African tribe, same as USA and the Caribbean, even within some African countries.


Live and let live. There are igbos in Lagos, in large numbers, not to talk about igbos in Rivers, or delta, and all around current SE states.


By the way, there's no need to drag majority. So called SE by itself, if all of them come back from all over Nigeria, is easily number 1 or 2, if ojoro no dey: then if you add, south south and middle belt indigenous igbos, it's no match with any other tribe in Nigeria. Even if hausa add all the whole of Niger republic, and yoruba add all the whole of Benin republic, and all the whole igbos from Brazil wey dem dey hold hostage, igbo still many una.. Igbos are the most discrete tribe in Nigeria, as much as they are boisterous. Igbo haven't even claimed their Cameroon side, african side, and others outside the continent.


If you don't anything, this, the great Igbo tribe don't force claim anybody. Do you know how many tribes are between cross river, and akwa ibom? Igbo have never forced their identity on any of those tribes ever. Even though, some tribes from rivers to edo , were spanish/portugese brought ins, maybe as storage or freedom slaves, when portugese and other Europeans were fighting for world supremacy in the 1400s 1500s and even 1600s.


Igbos don't claim others, igbos respects others, but it seems like everybody panics and get jittery when igbos hug themselves and say I love you nwanne. You guys want us to be your comedic entertainment, by fighting against each other. Well, una divide and conquer strategy on the igbos, have failed. The Igbos will continue to unite for better for worse. That shouldn't be a problem, except to evil people that want to keep leeching on the igbos.

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Magicdon(m): 6:00am On Jun 05
Spandau:


The problem with you guys is that you think any place that has "gbo" either starting or ending, belongs to Ibos. That's the height of delusion and disingenuity. Very annoying!!

Nwa Jen Zee wetin you know, even your history u dont know, yet u answer Igbo name.....No you be Ijaw man nwa Jen Zee
Magicdon(m): 6:05am On Jun 05
AguluLiar:


No Ibo in Rivers state

Indomie generation well done...............wetin u know mamam thank ma
werisetogether(m): 6:23am On Jun 05
Factcheck0001:
everyone don know their Mumu button

If u want to grow your page on twitter, just keep insulting tinubu n hyping their packaged fraud

Before 1 month u go get over 2k organic followers

That's what's Mr dabo is doing on twitter now n he's cashing out

But seriously, what kind of toxic "growth" is that?

Sad that bad news seems to attract more people...
DomPerignon: 6:37am On Jun 05
gidgiddy:
How an unimportant thing like this got to 5 pages is just incredible. Wether Amaechi is Japanese pr French is not going to add any value to anyone

The Igbo nation already has more than enough population than it needs


Its un important now after they have rejected you guys again.

Let me go and dig up your posts celebrating the emergence of that opportunistic Ikwere man born of an IBO woman who was made PG of Ohaneze.

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gidgiddy: 7:15am On Jun 05
aribisala0:
Their language is not 70% Igbo That is not true

Ikwerre is a distinct language

Your logic about Benin is upside down

Ikwerre people do not identify as Igbos
They NEVER did
They used to sell Igbos whom they call Isuoma as slaves


There are many languages that are close or similar that does not make them dialects
Good examples are French, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese. They belong to the family of languages called the Romance family

Spanish people cannot say Portuguese people are Spanish because they bear names like Roberto, Eduardo, Maria, Anna, Ronaldo or Antonio

If Ikwerre was speaking a distinct dialect, nobody would understand except Ikwerre. But in a situation where me from Anambra will understand 80% of it, then what they are speaking is a not distinct, but a dialect. I even understand Ikwerre more than some Igbo dialects in Enugu Ebonyi and Abia.

Ikwerre are free to identify as Japanese if they want to, but the truth is that nobody has managed to identify any difference between those called Igbo and those called Ikwerre, except denial

When denial is the only thing you can show as what makes you "distinct", then you fool no one but your self

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gidgiddy: 7:19am On Jun 05
DomPerignon:



Its un important now after they have rejected you guys again.

Let me go and dig up your posts celebrating the emergence of that opportunistic Ikwere man born of an IBO woman who was made PG of Ohaneze.


While you are at it, dig up any difference you see between those called Igbos and those called Ikwerre, there is none except for denial


Ikwerre are just or three local government and will make little difference either way if they are part of the Igbo nation

Anioma with 9 local governments are not even making noise

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DomPerignon: 7:21am On Jun 05
gidgiddy:



While you are at it, dig up any difference you see between those called Igbos and those called Ikwerre, there is none except for denial


Ikwerre are just or three local government and will make little difference either way if they are part of the Igbo nation

Anioma with 9 local governments are not even making noise


They have rejected you.

Stop being so shameless.

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Tranquill: 7:27am On Jun 05
gidgiddy:


If Ikwerre was speaking a distinct dialect, nobody would understand except Ikwerre. But in a situation where me from Anambra will understand 80% of it, then what they are speaking is a not distinct, but a dialect. I even understand Ikwerre more than some Igbo dialects in Enugu Ebonyi and Abia.

Ikwerre are free to identify as Japanese if they want to, but the truth is that nobody has managed to identify any difference between those called Igbo and those called Ikwerre, except denial

When denial is the only thing you can show as what makes you "distinct", then you fool no one but your self

The cry of a gidiggidy!

Cry more….

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8starmember: 8:12am On Jun 05
porthouse7:
nobody actually need igbo
Tell me your tribe first before I know what I will tell you
Irony1: 8:32am On Jun 05
Spandau:


Oga, whether I am a Yoruba person or not is inconsequential to my submission. I have spoken the truth and I know it hurts. As for creating ethnic tension, I don't think I have said anything to cause that. I only spoke the truth and opened the eye of the ignorant ones to it.

You say any truth and there is nothing hurting in your statements because they are lies and all you are saying is from the position of ignorance you want to open the eyes of ignorant ones. grin grin grin that is the joke of the century coming from someone who is ignorant coupled with dangerous obsession laced with hatred and bigotry.

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Ttalk: 8:38am On Jun 05
Spandau:


The problem with you guys is that you think any place that has "gbo" either starting or ending, belongs to Ibos. That's the height of delusion and disingenuity. Very annoying!!

Don't mind them, that's why they want to claim Lagos because of Igbosere and Igbobi
porthouse7(f): 8:41am On Jun 05
8starmember:
Tell me your tribe first before I know what I will tell you
na you go cry las las I get igbo marking
aribisala0(m): 9:26am On Jun 05
gidgiddy:


If Ikwerre was speaking a distinct dialect, nobody would understand except Ikwerre. But in a situation where me from Anambra will understand 80% of it, then what they are speaking is a not distinct, but a dialect. I even understand Ikwerre more than some Igbo dialects in Enugu Ebonyi and Abia.

Ikwerre are free to identify as Japanese if they want to, but the truth is that nobody has managed to identify any difference between those called Igbo and those called Ikwerre, except denial

When denial is the only thing you can show as what makes you "distinct", then you fool no one but your self
Portuguese people understand Spanish that does not make them Spanish
That does not also make Portuguese a dialect of Spanish
Quit talking like an Illiterate

YOU claim to understand 80% of what they are speaking. Without any exposure to Ikwerre that is a lie
HOW MANY IGBOS UNDERSTAND EZZA FROM EBONYI
There is an Ikwerre Bible for a very good reason

Now let me burst your bubble

The EZZA people are a group that actually Identify as Igbo

But they do not speak Igbo they speak an Igboid language. It is NOT a dialect of Igbo but a language in its own right
Most Igbo speakers do not understand it

Just like Ikwerrre is an Igboid language

What that simply means is that both languages have an ancient root but they are so different from each other as bo be classified not as dialects of each other but languages

Why are they called Igboid because when the classification was done. The Igbo language had the largest number of speakers. in the language family That is the only reason . Nothing else

So back to the Spanish and Portuguese example they belong to a family called Romance Languages which includes Italian and French ~You can check this on Google
E,g
French: "tout" (singular) or "tous" (plural)
Spanish: "todo" (singular) or "todos" (plural)
Italian: "tutto" (singular) or "tutti" (plural)
Portuguese: "todo" (singular) or "todos" (plural)


That does not make them the same people

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DomPerignon: 9:42am On Jun 05
aribisala0:
Portuguese people understand Spanish that does not make them Spanish
That does not also make Portuguese a dialect of Spanish
Quit talking like an Illiterate

YOU claim to understand 80% of what they are speaking. Without any exposure to Ikwerre that is a lie
HOW MANY IGBOS UNDERSTAND EZZA FROM EBONYI
There is an Ikwerre Bible for a very good reason

Now let me burst your bubble

The EZZA people are a group that actually Identify as Igbo

But they do not speak Igbo they speak an Igboid language. It is NOT a dialect of Igbo but a language in its own right
Most Igbo speakers do not understand it

Just like Ikwerrre is an Igboid language

What that simply means is that both languages have an ancient root but they are so different from each other as bo be classified not as dialects of each other but languages

Why are they called Igboid because when the classification was done. The Igbo language had the largest number of speakers. in the language family That is the only reason . Nothing else

So back to the Spanish and Portuguese example they belong to a family called Romance Languages which includes Italian and French ~You can check this on Google
E,g
French: "tout" (singular) or "tous" (plural)
Spanish: "todo" (singular) or "todos" (plural)
Italian: "tutto" (singular) or "tutti" (plural)
Portuguese: "todo" (singular) or "todos" (plural)


That does not make them the same people

To buttress your posts, English language originates from Olde German which is Flemish .

The English language has more connection to German than French. Modern English only evolved to what it is today through Roman rule that saw to Latin words being adopted. Later on, French contributed a lot to the English we see today through cultural interactions between the two.

The real roots of English is German but you don't see Germans laying claim to England .

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gidgiddy: 9:57am On Jun 05
aribisala0:
Portuguese people understand Spanish that does not make them Spanish
That does not also make Portuguese a dialect of Spanish
Quit talking like an Illiterate

YOU claim to understand 80% of what they are speaking. Without any exposure to Ikwerre that is a lie
HOW MANY IGBOS UNDERSTAND EZZA FROM EBONYI
There is an Ikwerre Bible for a very good reason

Now let me burst your bubble

The EZZA people are a group that actually Identify as Igbo

But they do not speak Igbo they speak an Igboid language. It is NOT a dialect of Igbo but a language in its own right
Most Igbo speakers do not understand it

Just like Ikwerrre is an Igboid language

What that simply means is that both languages have an ancient root but they are so different from each other as bo be classified not as dialects of each other but languages

Why are they called Igboid because when the classification was done. The Igbo language had the largest number of speakers. in the language family That is the only reason . Nothing else

So back to the Spanish and Portuguese example they belong to a family called Romance Languages which includes Italian and French ~You can check this on Google
E,g
French: "tout" (singular) or "tous" (plural)
Spanish: "todo" (singular) or "todos" (plural)
Italian: "tutto" (singular) or "tutti" (plural)
Portuguese: "todo" (singular) or "todos" (plural)


That does not make them the same people

I understand Ikwerre more than I do Ezza, everyone has their own dialect in Igbo land. Any of them could have chosen to translate the bible to their dialect. Some dialects I have to listen to more attentively, some areas I have to put two and two together, but I will still understand majority of it enough to communicate

But this goes beyond just language. What do Ikwerres call their kings? Eze, just like all Igbos do

What do Ikwerres call their tradition and customs? They call it Omeneli, while Igbo call it Omenala. In my dialect of Anambra, were call it Omenana

What do Ikwerres call their trading main house where elders decide matters, they call it Obiri, while Igbos call it Obi

What is the Ikwerre marriage rights called? Okuakanuro, while Igbo call it Ikuakanulo.

What do Ikwerres call their new yam festival? Iri-ji, same as Igbos

What is the Ikwerre traditional wrestling called? Egelege, while Igbos call it Ekereke or Ekereke-Mgba

Most Igbo communities start with the name 'Umu', while most Ikwerre communities start with 'Rumu'

In all these things, the difference is only small dialectical difference, the meaning remains the same in both Ikwerre and Igbo

As I said before, Ikwerres can identify as Chinese if they want, it is their right, but nobody has managed to show any difference between those called Igbo, and those called Ikwerre, both in language, culture and tradition

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chrisxxx(m): 10:20am On Jun 05
gidgiddy:



Oh they are called Ikwerre?

There are Nsukka people

There Ngwa people

There are Abakaliki people

There are Onitsha people

There are Ohawfia people

So why do you group all these people together and call them Igbo?

Are you aware there's no difference between these people and those you call Ikwerre, in culture and language, except small difference in dialect?
Will it be safe to say that all those group you mentioned are Ikwerre people? If they have a lot in common with the Ikwerre people then they are Ikwerres.

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chrisxxx(m): 10:29am On Jun 05
aribisala0:
Their language is not 70% Igbo That is not true

Ikwerre is a distinct language

Your logic about Benin is upside down

Ikwerre people do not identify as Igbos
They NEVER did
They used to sell Igbos whom they call Isuoma as slaves


There are many languages that are close or similar that does not make them dialects
Good examples are French, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese. They belong to the family of languages called the Romance family

Spanish people cannot say Portuguese people are Spanish because they bear names like Roberto, Eduardo, Maria, Anna, Ronaldo or Antonio
Bros you are well read. Igbos are one of the well traveled tribes in Nigeria. They recognised that the Spanish man differs from the Portuguese despite speaking similar language. This also includes Indonesia and Malaysia, Poland and Ukraine, Sweden and Denmark including Norway and Finland..Igbos see these people as different people but doesn't see it in their backyard because of if their annexation agenda. Similarity of languages despite being of different people is recognised in Linguistics as Mutual Intelligibility of Language.

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chrisxxx(m): 10:34am On Jun 05
gidgiddy:


If Ikwerre was speaking a distinct dialect, nobody would understand except Ikwerre. But in a situation where me from Anambra will understand 80% of it, then what they are speaking is a not distinct, but a dialect. I even understand Ikwerre more than some Igbo dialects in Enugu Ebonyi and Abia.

Ikwerre are free to identify as Japanese if they want to, but the truth is that nobody has managed to identify any difference between those called Igbo and those called Ikwerre, except denial

When denial is the only thing you can show as what makes you "distinct", then you fool no one but your self
If you understand Ikwerre why can't see yourself as Ikwerre?
Meanwhile which Ikwerre dialect do you understand?
Ikwerres have over 12 dialects. Which one do you understand?

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chrisxxx(m): 10:37am On Jun 05
aribisala0:
Portuguese people understand Spanish that does not make them Spanish
That does not also make Portuguese a dialect of Spanish
Quit talking like an Illiterate

YOU claim to understand 80% of what they are speaking. Without any exposure to Ikwerre that is a lie
HOW MANY IGBOS UNDERSTAND EZZA FROM EBONYI
There is an Ikwerre Bible for a very good reason

Now let me burst your bubble

The EZZA people are a group that actually Identify as Igbo

But they do not speak Igbo they speak an Igboid language. It is NOT a dialect of Igbo but a language in its own right
Most Igbo speakers do not understand it

Just like Ikwerrre is an Igboid language

What that simply means is that both languages have an ancient root but they are so different from each other as bo be classified not as dialects of each other but languages

Why are they called Igboid because when the classification was done. The Igbo language had the largest number of speakers. in the language family That is the only reason . Nothing else

So back to the Spanish and Portuguese example they belong to a family called Romance Languages which includes Italian and French ~You can check this on Google
E,g
French: "tout" (singular) or "tous" (plural)
Spanish: "todo" (singular) or "todos" (plural)
Italian: "tutto" (singular) or "tutti" (plural)
Portuguese: "todo" (singular) or "todos" (plural)


That does not make them the same people
Stop teaching them. It is difficult to teach anyone who pretends not to understand just as it is difficult to wake anyone pretending to be asleep.

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aribisala0(m): 10:40am On Jun 05
chrisxxx:

Stop teaching them. It is difficult to teach anyone who pretends not to understand just as it is difficult to wake anyone pretending to be asleep.
Actually I am doing this because if you do not challenge lies lazy and ignorant people will start believing it

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aribisala0(m): 10:50am On Jun 05
gidgiddy:


I understand Ikwerre more than I do Ezza, everyone has their own dialect in Igbo land. Any of them could have chosen to translate the bible to their dialect. Some dialects I have to listen to more attentively, some areas I have to put two and two together, but I will still understand majority of it enough to communicate

But this goes beyond just language. What do Ikwerres call their kings? Eze, just like all Igbos do

What do Ikwerres call their tradition and customs? They call it Omeneli, while Igbo call it Omenala. In my dialect of Anambra, were call it Omenana

What do Ikwerres call their trading main house where elders decide matters, they call it Obiri, while Igbos call it Obi

What is the Ikwerre marriage rights called? Okuakanuro, while Igbo call it Ikuakanulo.

What do Ikwerres call their new yam festival? Iri-ji, same as Igbos

What is the Ikwerre traditional wrestling called? Egelege, while Igbos call it Ekereke or Ekereke-Mgba

Most Igbo communities start with the name 'Umu', while most Ikwerre communities start with 'Rumu'

In all these things, the difference is only small dialectical difference, the meaning remains the same in both Ikwerre and Igbo

As I said before, Ikwerres can identify as Chinese if they want, it is their right, but nobody has managed to show any difference between those called Igbo, and those called Ikwerre, both in language, culture and tradition

Your claim that you understand Ikwerre is not verifiable

I do not believe you and even if it were true it is irrelevant
By your logic are we to Conclude that Ezza people are not Igbo because you understand it less?

YOu sound like an OMATA totally incapable of Logic

You say it goes beyond language and then contradict yourselr by going back to language asking what do Ikwerre call their Kings?


How is that relevant It only proves the point that the languages repeat laguages have COGNATES Google wha that means

By the way I thought Ibos don't have Kings. ?? So Obi of Onitsha is not Ibo.


Portuguese ...... Spanish ...... Italian ...... French ..... English
Rei ............................ Rey .. ......... Re .. ....... Roi ........... King

Does that make Portuguese Spanish or the French and Italians Spanish?

What Logical conclusion would a sane person make from this example from Europe?



That is where the word ROYAL comes from which is a French word

The same word in Spanish is REAL as in Real Madrid

That is also where the phrase Real Estate comes from


Languages proves NOTHING beyond BEING NEIGHBOURS once upon a time

Many Igbos now say Oya and are ashamed to so Ngwanu in public places among civilized people


What are the Igbo words for stone Yoruba = Okuta Ground Yoruba = Ile Ear Yoruba = Eti Yoruba Bag=Apo Nose=Imu THREE= Eta
Agbon= Chin Afefe= wind Apoti= box Egbe= Age mate Oka= Maize/corn

They are quite similar and is easily explained BY GEOGRAPHY not by being the same people

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IyfeNamikaze(m): 11:47am On Jun 05
AguluLiar:


No Ibo in Rivers state
Lol .. who's this ignoramus? Have you ever even been to Rivers state before in your life? There are the Etche, Ekpeye, Ogba and Ndoni people who are Igbo.

Even some parts of Ikwere are Igbo, despite what amaechi says here, I have met a lot of Ikwere people here in Lagos who claim to be Igbo.
Go and sit down kid.

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