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raumdeuter: 11:21pm On Jun 05
EnlightenedUFO:


Shouldn't you be calling for the release of the Epstein files? You just ran cold on it. Why?

What's my business with that? The files have been with govt agencies for decades. They can go ahead and release it

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feedthenation(m): 11:28pm On Jun 05
---Musk unfollows MAGAs Stephen Miller and Charlie Kirk on the X platform---

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Flamemignon1(m): 11:38pm On Jun 05
feedthenation:
---Musk unfollows MAGAs Stephen Miller and Charlie Kirk on the X platform---
The Dems better not be so foolish to let this fool back in

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ribbit: 11:40pm On Jun 05
Flamemignon1:

The Dems better not be so foolish to let this fool back in
exactly.

I'm still insisting it's a big show to save his dying company.

Trump is likely in on it too.

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Flamemignon1(m): 11:45pm On Jun 05
happney65:


Those ones? Those ones that dont know when to fight. They will start forming moral police now when the people you are fighting with are nothing but Pigs
What do y'all expect them to do? They literally have no power hence why they are waiting for the mid and with the way the orange clown is destroying the country, he's basically handling over the mid to them

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Flamemignon1(m): 11:47pm On Jun 05
ribbit:
exactly.

I'm still insisting it's a big show to save his dying company.

Trump is likely in on it too.

The bill has already been ed. Big show or not, the damage the bill will do to Tesla and SpaceX will be much, stocks are already plummeting as investors are scared that they will loose government

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Flamemignon1(m): 11:48pm On Jun 05
ribbit:
exactly.

I'm still insisting it's a big show to save his dying company.

Trump is likely in on it too.

Not to mention the way Congress sneaked the bill in the middle of the night as if they were trying to avoid someone (cough cough Musk)

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AmazonTopaz(f): 11:55pm On Jun 05
folake4u:



E remain make Musk just do podcast abeg, my weekend go just soft. grin grin
My sister. grin grin

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feedthenation(m): 11:55pm On Jun 05
---There’s an emergency meeting happening right now inside the Oval Office—directly related to the fallout with Elon Musk---something big is unfolding---stay tuned---

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happney65: 12:00am On Jun 06
Flamemignon1:

What do y'all expect them to do? They literally have no power hence why they are waiting for the mid and with the way the orange clown is destroying the country, he's basically handling over the mid to them

You dont have to be in power yet. They should not be on the side of either party. They should do purposeful oppostion and not die off and behave like the PDP in Nigeria

I dont think I have seen any Elected Dem say a word in the last few hours. They should not dit idle. They should hit the keep shouting on Trump and the nonesense and joke he has turned the US into
ribbit: 12:08am On Jun 06
Flamemignon1:

The bill has already been ed. Big show or not, the damage the bill will do to Tesla and SpaceX will be much, stocks are already plummeting as investors are scared that they will loose government
There is still the Senate.

Although I doubt anything is going to change in the Senate, my money is still on them putting on a charade so far.

Some Democrats are already unblocking Elon Musk on Twitter. How long before he sneaks his slimy ways back into their hearts?

This could also be a distraction. So I'm just going to enjoy the show. This type of drama is why some Democrats in the mainstream media want Trump in the White House anyway.

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A40(m): 12:20am On Jun 06
Ibime:

I don't believe anyone on Epstein file has evidence against them, it's made larger than life, but if you think Epstein file is important, then it would incriminate all sides so democrats won't go after it either. Epstein dealt in women and girls close to 18. Epstein fit dey plug you with legal runs, then plug one or two other guys with illegal one. Both you and the pdf files will now wear same tros even though your runs is legit. At worst it's embarrassing (though not criminal) so it better make them die the matter.

For an Alvin Bragg to drag Trump into Epstein mess, he must simultaneously drag Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew for example so this your theory no valid, that's if you think Epstein file is a thing.
Lol the Epstein talk na laughable one cos the way I see it Epstein was probably like Diddy in the 90s. Who no socialize with Diddy? You see how everybody dey Waka jeje throughout him trial. Nobody talk pim

Epstein had ties with everyone and this is why I keep telling people it's not a race war or party war but a class war.

Can you cast Trump without casting the Clintons and other highly ranked Dems. Trump was a Democrat as well people forget

Why is Elon telling us all this one? Make e careful sha cos Trump fit call Vladimir make e tidy am Russian window style or give am Russian tea without trace
A40(m): 12:28am On Jun 06
raumdeuter:


Let's even assume Trump dey Epstein file, what do you think that information will do to him? Is he running for elections again

Elon has a lot of money and business to lose, what does Trump have to lose? He is a billionaire, president and popular with the people

You want to play Trump's game against Trump?

Trump is a natural at trolling not Elon who is at best socially awkward

Don't be surprised if Trump is just laughing while Elon is furiously pounding his keypads

Lastly Trump won an election and was voted by Americans, who voted Elon?

If Trump wan catch am, he will set Bondi, Kash, Bongino Bannon etc after him

Bannon has been trying to get him since their last December H1B visa argument where Elon ed H1Bs

If one doesn't know how to read the room, they end up like Elon. He would just be the white brother of Kanye
Elon will fvck around and lose half his networth let him keep fooling. He will soon find out that after God na government

Cos one thing about Trump is he has seen it all and has nothing to lose. He likely saw all of this coming from Elon a million miles away. He's not the first former ally to turn
LordAdam16: 2:01am On Jun 06
Ibeme:


Who will take you serious?

In January you are for cutting waste and in June you are for pork

In the West you claim Conservative and in the Global South, you are a Communist

Fiscal Conservatism is the bedrock of being a Conservative, of which you are not, just a Trump worshipper and Conspiracy theorist

I am the one with Conservative principles on this thread, not you hotchpotch of Conspiracy theorists, populists and pseudo communists

I cease being for reducing deficits because I am being politically practical to fulfill a core campaign promise.
I am a communist.
Conservatism is a monolith. There is no liberal on the planet who is a fiscal conservative. Or conservative who is a fiscal liberal.
You are a liberal but have conservative principles. And said in the same breath that fiscal conservatism is the bedrock of being a conservative.
What are you, a shape shifter?

Every sentence is a falsehood.
That's got to be a record.

Stick to being a slogan-slinging lemming. You would give yourself an aneurysm dabbling in political theory.
I'm sorry, you're not that clued-up.

-Lord

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GloriousGbola: 2:12am On Jun 06
Ibime:



I don't believe anyone on Epstein file has evidence against them, it's made larger than life, but if you think Epstein file is important, then it would incriminate all sides so democrats won't go after it either. Epstein dealt in women and girls close to 18. Epstein fit dey plug you with legal runs, then plug one or two other guys with illegal one. Both you and the pdf files will now wear same tros even though your runs is legit. At worst it's embarrassing (though not criminal) so it better make them die the matter.

For an Alvin Bragg to drag Trump into Epstein mess, he must simultaneously drag Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew for example so this your theory no valid, that's if you think Epstein file is a thing.

also bill gates

what phrase is this platform converting to pdf files?
IjeBos(m): 2:15am On Jun 06
Elon is what happens when you do drugs.
Not sure he thought out this strategy.
Set fire to Trump, himself and a pile of his money.

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ObaIgwe1: 2:16am On Jun 06
raumdeuter:


Even if you are running a legit business without govt patronage, you cannot just start dragging a president in public and think it will end well. Now Elon that does a lot of govt contracting

Truth is Elon talking about lean govt and cutting spending is right ideologically but when you are in govt like Trump is, the fat that has been grown over 40 to 50yrs wont be cut at once

If Trump insists on doing it the Elon way, that bill will never get ed. There are lots of special interests involved. Every president that campaigned on doing this cut, getting rid of this and that all came into power and realized it's not as easy as they want

This Trump bill is as good as you can get given the current realities. Anyone thinking you can cut further without crisis is just looking for a govt shutdown

Now coming to drag a president publicly for this especially a president like Trump who is in his 2nd term and has nothing to lose

I dont want to believe Elon is that stupid to think he can take on Trump in this manner and win
Either

1. Its a cruise show to entertain us or get Elon a soft landing with anti Trumpers

2. Someone will mediate and let calmer heads prevail

There is no scenario where Elon wins this. Zero

Trump being petty will even make him regret it

I agree with all you wrote including your 1st ittance that Trump is petty cheesy

It might be one of those options above... cos like you wrote I don't think Elon is that insane to just wanna go against Trump, even if high under drugs. But then there's also another possibility of Elon having a number of incriminating evidence against Trump or somehow having info that can sink Trump's istration.

Anyways Trump's istration is a cruse/joke. So we should expect more of these entertainments from time to time. I'm enjoying the show and eagerly waiting for the next episode. grin

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cococandy(f): 2:21am On Jun 06
You guys are laughing at Elon and Trump.

I’m laughing at the resident doofuses who thought Elon was something to write home about in the first place.
I mean it’s been established that Trump is an imbecilé so no need to over-flog a dead horse. Wasn’t he on the Whitehouse lawn degrading the office by doing car sales man for him for the so called “worthless” cars? And yall went along with it.

But Elon? We were supposed to be wowed by his ingenuity. His smarts and unparalleled brain power.
These bozos refused to acknowledge for once that Elon didn’t get to where he is by being the best on the planet at what he does. If y’all had been sincere from the beginning, you won’t look like circus monkeys now with eggs on your faces.

Now you want to acknowledge he was enlarged by govt handouts? That his companies grew not by merit but by being propped up on tax payer money at the expense of generations of American citizens like we’ve been saying? But we were “billionaire haters” then weren’t we?


Oh now you guys want to know who voted Elon? You didn’t ask that when he was given unprecedented illegal authority without congressional oversight to get into confidential files at top govt agencies who were investigating him? The conflict of interest in that alone didn’t bother you guys one bit.

Shame on all of you. Know when to shut up and take an L.

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cococandy(f): 2:33am On Jun 06
Donald Trump says Elon musk has “TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME”

Wasn’t he his best pal just 3 days ago? When did he get infected with the syndrome? BTW This stupidity of classifying anyone who disagrees with Trump as deranged is something a child molesting republican tried to have ed into law.

I hope any one of you who has ever used that term buries your head in shame.

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folake4u(f): 2:44am On Jun 06
AmazonTopaz:

My sister. grin grin

I'm amused honestly.

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raumdeuter: 2:47am On Jun 06
ObaIgwe1:


I agree with all you wrote including your 1st ittance that Trump is petty cheesy

It might be one of those options above... cos like you wrote I don't think Elon is that insane to just wanna go against Trump, even if high under drugs. But then there's also another possibility of Elon having a number of incriminating evidence against Trump or somehow having info that can sink Trump's istration.

Anyways Trump's istration is a cruse/joke. So we should expect more of these entertainments from time to time. I'm enjoying the show and eagerly waiting for the next episode. grin

Think of the worst thing that can incriminate Trump and say it now, it wont do anything to Trump's

Trump never presented a curated view of himself, his entire life was lived in front of cameras all through and many knew who he was yet voted twice

So what information about Trump can he possibly release that will damage him that we dont already

Elon is insisting on cutting cost which is a core conservative view, but realistically you cannot cut the bloat of 50yrs in one bill without killing the , moreover it wont even the congress especially with the razor thin majority

Enjoy the show, we have an energetic president who can do all gbas gbos
LordAdam16: 3:05am On Jun 06
A40:
Elon will fvck around and lose half his networth let him keep fooling. He will soon find out that after God na government

Cos one thing about Trump is he has seen it all and has nothing to lose. He likely saw all of this coming from Elon a million miles away. He's not the first former ally to turn

Trump has just 3 years left.
1 year really until the mid which Dems are poised to win.
The judiciary has been an impediment and politicians, most of whom plan to stay around long after Trump is out of the WH, need donors.
Elon is not a lightweight.

Elon has a lot riding on getting back in the good graces of half the population he'd pissed.
If he's unable to do that, he'll be ousted at Tesla. So I can respect that he's giving this tiff his best shot.
Sadly, he is an autist. He will overshoot. Comes with the territory.

The Freedom Caucus opposed the bill until it became apparent they had to be team players.
Massie and Paul are also in opposition.
Neither are having a publicized crash out and still stick to their guns after unjustified Trump jibes.
They're politicians. They know how to navigate the marshes. Elon is not a politician and it shows.

I wouldn't go into theorizing who'll come out on top.
I can assure you there are many in crypto, AI, and big tech who are biting their fingers going, "Don't f*ck this up for us, Elon".
Crypto have their Big Beautiful Bill coming with full-throated from the Trump WH.
AI got 10 years of regulatory reprieve that concurrently blunted domestic tripwires like California's legislation in that so-called disgusting bill Elon is raging about.
Big Tech are like, dude, we still have ongoing anti-trust cases.

Place Elon's musings on mute until he sobers up. He did spend $300m to get Trump elected.
Can't be coddled. Can't be dismissed. He is an autistic Lisa Murkowski.
We talk about primarying Murkowski every six years, but then she returns to Washington and we have to bring her breakfast in bed to get sh*t done. If Elon wants to be difficult, put him in the same bucket as Murkowski and Collins. Move on to serious sh*t.

You know the crazy part.
Trump has signaled he is okay with the Senate taking an axe to the Bill.
The prevailing thought in the Capitol and the WH is that it wouldn't be a 5T deficit after the Senate is done.
Then the leaner version would be forced on the business-as-usual caucus in the House.

That's supposed to be the prime benefit of one bill.
Get the "what's in it for my district guys" to blow their load early. Ram through the really nice sh*t -- the tax cuts and AI regulatory cut.
Then you spend the rest of the term trying to codify deficit reduction measures.
Elon wants to do things differently. That's cute. But it wouldn't work.
What was his deadline for getting humanity to Mars? He's blown past it. But he wants to gut entitlement programs within weeks?!
Sh*t that get 3x Trump voters to say "Hold up!"
Dude should take a beat.

-Lord

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GloriousGbola: 3:06am On Jun 06
cococandy:
Donald Trump says Elon musk has “TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME”

Wasn’t he his best pal just 3 days ago? When did he get infected with the syndrome? BTW This stupidity of classifying anyone who disagrees with Trump as deranged is something a child molesting republican tried to have ed into law.

I hope any one of you who has ever used that term buries your head in shame.

Poor boy. The Sith always betray one another. But I’m sure you’ll learn that soon enough.”
— Shaak Ti

MAGA in a nutshell

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GloriousGbola: 3:09am On Jun 06
IjeBos:
Elon is what happens when you do drugs.
Not sure he thought out this strategy.
Set fire to Trump, himself and a pile of his money.

elon is what happens when you are a billionaire who has not suffered any consequences for any of his actions

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LordAdam16: 3:15am On Jun 06
raumdeuter:


Think of the worst thing that can incriminate Trump and say it now, it wont do anything to Trump's

Trump never presented a curated view of himself, his entire life was lived in front of cameras all through and many knew who he was yet voted twice

So what information about Trump can he possibly release that will damage him that we dont already

Elon is insisting on cutting cost which is a core conservative view, but realistically you cannot cut the bloat of 50yrs in one bill without killing the , moreover it wont even the congress especially with the razor thin majority

Enjoy the show, we have an energetic president who can do all gbas gbos


Elon knows what's up.
We all know what's up.
I hope the gambit pays off.

Will be watching out for Tesla Q2 and Q3 financials.
X will do numbers.

I am entertained.

Chortled when I saw JD Vance X post.

Slow news day, what are we even going to talk about? @TheoVon

https://x.com/JDVance/status/1930777785057869916

Trump 2.0 is the shiznit.

-Lord
cococandy(f): 3:16am On Jun 06
IjeBos:
Elon is what happens when you do drugs.
Not sure he thought out this strategy.
Set fire to Trump, himself and a pile of his money.
I’m just shocked that he’s shocked this is happening to him.

For a “smart” man, he’s incredibly dumb to not have pieced Trump’s pattern together from his first time in office. Trump requires absolute loyalty like an 8 year old king who cannot be told he’s wrong even as he’s walking around with his underwear inside out.

Like the jokesters say,

“If a person shenan once, they’re gonna shenanigan”

He should’ve seen it coming.

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bemeruca: 3:26am On Jun 06
LordAdam16:


Elon knows what's up.
We all know what's up.
I hope the gambit pays off.

Will be watching out for Tesla Q2 and Q3 financials.
X will do numbers.

I am entertained.

Chortled when I saw JD Vance X post.



https://x.com/JDVance/status/1930777785057869916

Trump 2.0 is the shiznit.

-Lord

This is a big gamble for Elon. There was no need for this at all. Tesla was doing well and their stock was gaining momentum. The left is misguided, and there’s no reason to make amends. If Elon were a criminal, they would have embraced him like the prodigal son but he is a good man who gave voice to the censored.
armyofone(m): 3:32am On Jun 06
Elon M is now very upset at the BBB

Was the man who tweeted about deficit not acceptable now replaced by body double ?

This Elon na real African man grin grin
armyofone(m): 3:36am On Jun 06
bemeruca:


This is a big gamble for Elon. There was no need for this at all. Tesla was doing well and their stock was gaining momentum. The left is misguided, and there’s no reason to make amends. If Elon were a criminal, they would have embraced him like the prodigal son but he is a good man who gave voice to the censored.

He is a good man kawai and fighting for the deficit fa. May he accomplish what he started - bringing the debt down.
bemeruca: 3:41am On Jun 06
armyofone:


He is a good man kawai and fighting for the deficit fa. May he accomplish what he started - bringing the debt down.

Elon and Trump are good people, they are simply engaged in a foo lish cat fight.
A40(m): 3:41am On Jun 06
LordAdam16:


Trump has just 3 years left.
1 year really until the mid which Dems are poised to win.
The judiciary has been an impediment and politicians, most of whom plan to stay around long after Trump is out of the WH, need donors.
Elon is not a lightweight.

Elon has a lot riding on getting back in the good graces of half the population he'd pissed.
If he's unable to do that, he'll be ousted at Tesla. So I can respect that he's giving this tiff his best shot.
Sadly, he is an autist. He will overshoot. Comes with the territory.

The Freedom Caucus opposed the bill until it became apparent they had to be team players.
Massie and Paul are also in opposition.
Neither are having a publicized crash out and still stick to their guns after unjustified Trump jibes.
They're politicians. They know how to navigate the marshes. Elon is not a politician and it shows.

I wouldn't go into theorizing who'll come out on top.
I can assure you there are many in crypto, AI, and big tech who are biting their fingers going, "Don't f*ck this up for us, Elon".
Crypto have their Big Beautiful Bill coming with full-throated from the Trump WH.
AI got 10 years of regulatory reprieve that concurrently blunted domestic tripwires like California's legislation in that so-called disgusting bill Elon is raging about.
Big Tech are like, dude, we still have ongoing anti-trust cases.

Place Elon's musings on mute until he sobers up. He did spend $300m to get Trump elected.
Can't be coddled. Can't be dismissed. He is an autistic Lisa Murkowski.
We talk about primarying Murkowski every six years, but then she returns to Washington and we have to bring her breakfast in bed to get sh*t done. If Elon wants to be difficult, put him in the same bucket as Murkowski and Collins. Move on to serious sh*t.

You know the crazy part.
Trump has signaled he is okay with the Senate taking an axe to the Bill.
The prevailing thought in the Capitol and the WH is that it wouldn't be a 5T deficit after the Senate is done.
Then the leaner version would be forced on the business-as-usual caucus in the House.

That's supposed to be the prime benefit of one bill.
Get the "what's in it for my district guys" to blow their load early. Ram through the really nice sh*t -- the tax cuts and AI regulatory cut.
Then you spend the rest of the term trying to codify deficit reduction measures.
Elon wants to do things differently. That's cute. But it wouldn't work.
What was his deadline for getting humanity to Mars? He's blown past it. But he wants to gut entitlement programs within weeks?!
Sh*t that get 3x Trump voters to say "Hold up!"
Dude should take a beat.

-Lord
Elon has outlived his usefulness. Disagreeing with a policy is one thing but like you said he's not a politician and thus is conveying his disagreements in the worst possible way. I really think Elon has cooked his goose

Donors stay in the background. Why will I want a donor who can go rogue on me anytime I don't dance to his tune and this donor just happens to have the world's SM biggest platform. Even leftie politicians are taking note

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