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This here would be the game changer......

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-02/uk-isn-t-ruling-out-making-immigration-restrictions-retroactive

Jamesclooney:
Now that BRP has been phased out, what happens when you add a new dependant?
Also, how long is the actual processing time for a standard application? I know it’s d as 8 weeks, but I’d like to hear from anyone with recent experience—was it faster or longer?

Don't know about dependants processing timelines but for my recent visa switch application - applied on Friday, got the approval on Tuesday. They had said it might take up to 8 weeks as well. Seems they're much faster nowadays.

As to BRPs, the new visa validity shows up on the evisa page immediately so it'll serve to prove status for anything in-country. In my recent trips outside, BRPs weren't even checked at all on the UK side.

Lexusgs430:
This here would be the game changer......

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-02/uk-isn-t-ruling-out-making-immigration-restrictions-retroactive

Hmm, there were allusions to this right from the start...
Can you screen grab pls? The story is behind a pay wall.

mizGene:

Hmm, there were allusions to this right from the start...
Can you screen grab pls? The story is behind a pay wall.

https://archive.is/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-02/uk-isn-t-ruling-out-making-immigration-restrictions-retroactive

Goodenoch:


https://archive.is/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-02/uk-isn-t-ruling-out-making-immigration-restrictions-retroactive

Thank you!

Goodenoch:


Don't know about dependants processing timelines but for my recent visa switch application - applied on Friday, got the approval on Tuesday. They had said it might take up to 8 weeks as well. Seems they're much faster nowadays.

As to BRPs, the new visa validity shows up on the evisa page immediately so it'll serve to prove status for anything in-country. In my recent trips outside, BRPs weren't even checked at all on the UK side.

Thank you!

babajeje123:
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Lexusgs430:
This here would be the game changer......

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-02/uk-isn-t-ruling-out-making-immigration-restrictions-retroactive

Yet you still go about encouraging folks to invest in the country: pouring their only leverage (raw cash) into an environment that's willing to use them and spit them out?

Hopefully you'll tone down on the "rent money is dead money" rhetoric this time.

Hi, applied on Friday, my visa came out today and it was the standard visa application

Jamesclooney:
Now that BRP has been phased out, what happens when you add a new dependant?
Also, how long is the actual processing time for a standard application? I know it’s d as 8 weeks, but I’d like to hear from anyone with recent experience—was it faster or longer?

Evagreenfields:
Hi, applied on Friday, my visa came out today and it was the standard visa application

Gracias!

Raalsalghul:


Yet you still go about encouraging folks to invest in the country: pouring their only leverage (raw cash) into an environment that's willing to use them and spit them out?

Hopefully you'll tone down on the "rent money is dead money" rhetoric this time.

Rent money is still dead money, because you're still paying your landlord's mortgage...... ZERO EQUITY APPRECIATION....

Buy your property, build equity and sell whenever you want to JAPADA....... 😊😂😁

Prooceds from the property sale, would build a massive fish farm(among other investments)......😂🐠🐟😁

Lexusgs430:
This here would be the game changer......

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-02/uk-isn-t-ruling-out-making-immigration-restrictions-retroactive

What were they thinking when issuing millions of visas.

These folks don’t want anyone else to share benefit money with them but they want you to contribute to the system.

lavida001:


What were they thinking when issuing millions of visas.

These folks don’t want anyone else to share benefit money with them but they want you to contribute to the system.

I talked about this 2 weeks ago or so.......

Those that would qualify for benefits + the English channel bandits + their own very lazy yoots + pension bill etc etc..... They can see the impending dangers looming ahead..... The vault is running empty...... 🤔😏

Jamesclooney:
Now that BRP has been phased out, what happens when you add a new dependant?
Also, how long is the actual processing time for a standard application? I know it’s d as 8 weeks, but I’d like to hear from anyone with recent experience—was it faster or longer?

Congratulations on your new dependant!

Lexusgs430:


I talked about this 2 weeks ago or so.......

Those that would qualify for benefits + the English channel bandits + their own very lazy yoots + pension bill etc etc..... They can see the impending dangers looming ahead..... The vault is running empty...... 🤔😏

Tax and IHS and visa fee rises coming too. The extended 10 year period will be a wild ride....

lavida001:


That’s why I keep advocating for us to force and revive Nigeria and Africa. Even with your ILR you will be summed up with the rest of your kind.

I when Sukkot (had to mention his moniker) stated he knows many Black Brits (born and bred in England) who moved to the Caribbean, and they became happier ever since. Psychological happiness is so underrated. People in Nigeria wouldn't fully grasp it. I was once like them, so I can understand. Nothing beats being in your dominant society. Chinese bred in the US are now realising it. Good for them, though they have many options to replicate or even sur living standards.

There are pros and cons to living abroad, but all things being equal, nothing beats a relatively functioning and prosperous sub-Saharan Africa.

jedisco:
Didn't take long. Telegraph is already arguing against ILR for our great british care workers. When they were used to subsidize care costs, they didn't know they were 'low-skilled'. Now its time to become citizens, they don their skill... lol
Interesting how these folks advocate a UAE-esque system when it suits but when it doesn't, accuse those folks of human right abuses. If its a mistake, why is the visa pathway still open? Well, I'm happy Keir is overseeing the return of migration numbers to 'normalcy'

Over the next two years, many of those who arrived since 2021 will become eligible for indefinite leave to remain. Once this is granted, no matter how expensive they may turn out to be, they can stay. The priority for the Government should be preventing this from happening – extending the time taken for eligibility, imposing fiscal contribution thresholds and, in the longer term, shifting towards a guest worker model for short-term, low-wage work. The alternative is too costly to contemplate.

Generally, developed countries would have to increase birth rates or revamp the pension system. Something has to give in. The UAE model is good for even immigrants (after all most immigrants are economic in nature), but bad for the pension system in the UK. Another option is to increase taxes, but many wealthier European countries have high taxes and low birth rates. The UAE/Qatari/Singapore model fits smaller and wealthier nations. The alternative for more populated countries would be to increase the birth rate or rework the pension system.

lavida001:


Yes DEI must DIE. There is not diversity in China yet, they are doing so well. Maybe country’s should start developing their nations rather than wanting to be included and identified in another country.

I ire your evangelism!

Truth is: nothing beats being in your dominant land that is functioning and prosperous. Na why I envy Black South Africans. Wetin concern those ones with japa? As the African population rises, which means there will be MORE Black people than some racial groups, there will be further restrictive immigration policies. Gradually, everybody go begin answer their papa name.

Raalsalghul:


Yet you still go about encouraging folks to invest in the country: pouring their only leverage (raw cash) into an environment that's willing to use them and spit them out?

Hopefully you'll tone down on the "rent money is dead money" rhetoric this time.

Oga Lexus, don't want you to leave him in the UK, na. He's only talking out of love, oh!

lavida001:


What were they thinking when issuing millions of visas.

These folks don’t want anyone else to share benefit money with them, but they want you to contribute to the system.

That's the reason behind all the noise o! na that benefit o and they must share it by force by fire you can't collect my hard-earned money and bolt away, for where!

lavida001:
That’s why I keep advocating for us to force and revive Nigeria and Africa.

Even with your ILR you will be summed up with the rest of your kind.

You are so correct that we should work to enLIGHTen ourselves until we get the critical mass that understands what is at stake.

TheBedWench:
The one-drop rule is a social and legal principle of racial classification that was historically prominent in the United States in the 20th century. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of black ancestry ("one drop" of black blood)[1][2] is considered black (Negro or colored in historical ).

This concept became codified into the law of some states in the early 20th century. It was associated with the principle of "invisible blackness" that developed after the long history of racial interaction in the South, which had included the hardening of slavery as a racial caste and later segregation. It is an example of hypodescent, the automatic assignment of children of a mixed union between different socioeconomic or ethnic groups to the group with the lower status, regardless of proportion of ancestry in different groups.[3]

The one-drop rule is defunct in law in the United States and was never codified into federal law.

anonimi:
Neo-black Problem: Must Blacks Be Ruled by Whites in Order to Prosper?

In short, the neo-black dilemma may be framed as follows: is it better to live under white rule without political dignity but with basic life-sustaining standards for many;

or to live under black rule with illusory political dignity and without basic life- sustaining standards for the majority?
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The path forward for Africa lies in cultivating higher and adequate levels of personal and communal agential integrity as well as full personal responsibility and productivity. Not to mention creativity (including epistemic creativity), productive justice (such as merit and freedom), harmony and reconciliation at local and international levels, and a proper domestication of capitalism and other related values and institutions.

Africa must stop wasting her time on dreams of socialism because it is a system of wealth distribution primarily. Whereas, capitalism is a system of wealth creation primarily, and wealth has to be produced before it can be distributed.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/10/12/neo-black-problem-must-blacks-be-ruled-by-whites-in-order-to-prosper/

lavida001:


What were they thinking when issuing millions of visas.

These folks don’t want anyone else to share benefit money with them but they want you to contribute to the system.

Lol, given the way you've ionately criticised Brits for being lazy and dependent on benefits, I would have thought that the argument would be for the government to keep all their benefits and just grant permanent residence, as immigrants are hardworking and resilient and don't need/want any benefits.

Lexusgs430:


I talked about this 2 weeks ago or so.......

Those that would qualify for benefits + the English channel bandits + their own very lazy yoots + pension bill etc etc..... They can see the impending dangers looming ahead..... The vault is running empty...... 🤔😏

Lol, the government is already having a massive headache trying to figure out how to withdraw pensioners' WFA without losing the next GE. They're lamenting that lifting the 2 child benefit cap will cost billions....Starmer wants to make us "war ready" without confirming how or where the money will come from....Rayner in her leaked memo to Reeves (before the White Paper) suggested restricting benefits for recent arrivals.....not easy times for them.

Gerrard59:

I ire your evangelism!

Truth is: nothing beats being in your dominant land that is functioning and prosperous. Na why I envy Black South Africans. Wetin concern those ones with japa? As the African population rises, which means there will be MORE Black people than some racial groups, there will be further restrictive immigration policies. Gradually, everybody go begin answer their papa name.

Those ones Trump is suppressing despite being thousands of miles away, phew! You need to watch the SA President in one of their parliamentary sessions lamenting how the blacks do not possess ownership of their economy, I wonder what is to envied about people who are not economically free in their own land.

Zahra29:


Lol, the government is already having a massive headache trying to figure out how to withdraw pensioners' WFA without losing the next GE. They're lamenting that lifting the 2 child benefit cap will cost billions....Starmer wants to make us "war ready" without confirming how or where the money will come from....Rayner in her leaked memo to Reeves (before the White Paper) suggested restricting benefits for recent arrivals.....not easy times for them.

I watched Reform party member on LBC Youtube channel the other day and i felt something.... the next GE is for Reform political part. I don't like Reform but i can not dimiss the fact that some of their points hits home.

They have borrowed a page from Trump's playbook but in this case regarding foreign aid,WFA and funding education in this country.

Labour is in trouble

justwise:


I watched Reform party member on LBC Youtube channel the other day and i felt something.... the next GE is for Reform political part. I don't like Reform but i can not dimiss the fact that some of their points hits home.

They have borrowed a page from Trump's playbook but in this case regarding foreign aid,WFA and funding education in this country.

Labour is in trouble

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I've said for a while now that Reform is the real fox to watch, the Kemi obsession was just a red herring.

Farage is now playing Labour and influencing their policy decisions in the same way he manipulated Cameron & co and engineered the Brexit vote, and eventually Brexit.

Like Blair said recently - ignore populists at your peril. Populists don't create a grievance, they exploit grievances (of the silent majority).

Zahra29:


💯

I've said for a while now that Reform is the real fox to watch, the Kemi obsession was just a red herring.

Farage is now playing Labour and influencing their policy decisions in the same way he manipulated Cameron & co and engineered the Brexit vote, and eventually Brexit.

Like Blair said recently - ignore populists at your peril. Populists don't create a grievance, they exploit grievances (of the silent majority).

Nailed it!!!!, eve as i know that it will backfire when they get into power..However it will put them in No10

Lexusgs430:


Rent money is still dead money, because you're still paying your landlord's mortgage...... ZERO EQUITY APPRECIATION....

Buy your property, build equity and sell whenever you want to JAPADA....... 😊😂😁

Prooceds from the property sale, would build a massive fish farm(among other investments)......😂🐠🐟😁

Very simple concept. I don't know why folks keep making a big deal out of it.

Zahra29:


Lol, given the way you've ionately criticised Brits for being lazy and dependent on benefits, I would have thought that the argument would be for the government to keep all their benefits and just grant permanent residence, as immigrants are hardworking and resilient and don't need/want any benefits.

To be fair, most immigrants would jump at this offer. I, for example, would prefer a quick permanent residency and the benefits can be left out really. Not sure what benefit anyone is really even looking forward to. The Permanent Residency crave is to help with some stability, ability to switch employers, plan long term, avoid these huge visa fees, etc. Most folks are really not after the benefits

justwise:
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Nailed it!!!!, eve as i know that it will backfire when they get into power..However it will put them in No10

They're going for Scottish Labour now and looking to overtake them as the no 2 party in Scotland.

Ahead of Thursday's by-election they've publicly accused Sarwar of sectarianism, advertising a speech he made to the south Asian community where he said that the time has come for Pakistanis to lead the country and decide what is taught in schools. Sarwar inturn accused Reform of racism, but his speech has obviously not gone down well with many Scots or non Pakistanis/other south Asians.

Solumtoya:


To be fair, most immigrants would jump at this offer. I, for example, would prefer a quick permanent residency and the benefits can be left out really. Not sure what benefit anyone is really even looking forward to. The Permanent Residency crave is to help with some stability, ability to switch employers, plan long term, avoid these huge visa fees, etc. Most folks are really not after the benefits

Benefits/ public funds such as

- 30 hrs free childcare from 9 months (open to permanent residents earning < £100k)

- child care benefits of nearly £80 a week for 4 children (income threshold £60 - 80k)

- universal credit, housing and other welfare payments ( in- work allowances to help supplement household incomes where wages are too low or housing costs too high)

Not all benefits are the maligned "giro" payment aka unemployment benefit or free council house lol

There are several in-work benefits/public funds which I don't think most people, including immigrants, earning less than £80k- 100k would turn down.

I saw a thread following the white paper where a group of immigrants were advocating starting a petition to call for the government to decouple all benefits from permanent residence, until another group jumped on and accused them of selling themselves short and g away their entitlements. So it's not that black and white.

Zahra29:


They're going for Scottish Labour now and looking to overtake them as the no 2 party in Scotland.

Ahead of Thursday's by-election they've accused Sarwar of sectarianism, advertising a speech he made to the south Asian community where he said that the time has come for Pakistanis to lead the country and decide what is taught in schools. Sarwar inturn accused Reform of racism lol, but his speech has obviously not gone down well with many Scots or non Pakistanis/other south Asians.

Not surprised because that is him pretty much talking about sharia law