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MSGAMBLE9: 8:37am On May 31
daveP:


They wished
They got
They're quiet

Lol
it's the lack of ambition mixed with emotions that irked me...some are okay/comfortable with just trying to be second best...

There are visible areas that needs improving to cross the line for 2 years now buh we are either going for 25m back-up GK and been linked with Ajax's Hato ( another defender) for 50m again...


Have seen this "Script" before...
MSGAMBLE9: 8:47am On May 31
Congratulations to Sister Marionna for winning the UWCL Goal of the Season with the strike away at Lyon...


Up next Balloon d'Or (21goals + 15 Assist)


Phenomenal cool cool cool!!

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iamoyindamola(m): 9:22am On May 31
MSGAMBLE9:
Congratulations to Sister Marionna for winning the UWCL Goal of the Season with the strike away at Lyon...


Up next Balloon d'Or (21goals + 15 Assist)


Phenomenal cool cool cool!!
Are you sure about the goals and assists
I thought Russo was our top scorer last season
MSGAMBLE9: 11:49am On May 31
iamoyindamola:

Are you sure about the goals and assists
I thought Russo was our top scorer last season
In All competition yes... She has more goals in UWCL, FA cup than Russo... Russo is our highest scorer in the WSL


Breakdown - 9 WSL, 8 UWCl and 4 others goals....

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mostob(m): 12:27pm On May 31
germaphobe:

Abi. No mind me bro, na to see my team win be my concern, wetin person label me no really concern me.
This!!!
Why I go dey worry myself over nothing I can't control. It is well jare

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dominique(f): 12:44pm On May 31
Spy360:

You don't have to employ false information to indicate hatred for Arteta.

No club has signed anyone until Sunday. And Arsenal have a deal set for Zubimendi who is having his medical today.

I'm one of Arteta's biggest ers. Back in 21/22 when people were calling for his sack, I was part of the people that was preaching to impatient fans to cut his some slack and trust the process. Yes, I've been trusting the process for over 5 years now and I still trust his process but I still can't help but raise my eyebrow at his player selection. As if we've not suffered enough in the hands of Chelsea and man city rejects, he wants to go and bring in Leroy Sane, wtf? Anyways I'm happy with his Zubimendi selection and Sesko is not so bad. He had an average of 25% shot to goal accuracy last season which was his poorest so far. I believe Arteta can help him work on his goal scoring abilities like he did with Merino. We're still in the race for Gyökres and possibly Alvarez from Athletico Madrid. I hope the board listen to the cries of the fans and release enough funds, we will surely eat well next season.

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Lush100(m): 12:58pm On May 31
mostob:
This!!!
Why I go dey worry myself over nothing I can't control. It is well jare
.
That's it sir.
I remeber correctly it was the influence of Haaland father having played for Mancity that swayed the his movement to Mancity.
His father stays in the director's box during matched and he negotiated very high fees for him.
I'm very sure all of us want isak.
Will Newcastle sell or will the board even drop the money to get him.
Second for 3 straight season is an effort to be commended.
We are all pained but what the use of abusing your club , the manager and his entourage.
Arteta lacks some experience and the learning curve is improving.
In fact during the just concluded season when we lost Saka and Odegard, I was scared for the thing...but we were winning 1 nil most matches by Gabu stepping up only to have injury
But we then lost white and then Kai..
and at some.point martinelli....unless illogical...We were definitely going to drop point......only Rodri injury and then Debryne see how Mancity was fumbling...
Every coach playing has his playing style and their some.key people for it.
When Ancelotti was available why didn't they move for him.
What of Zidane ....We are talking of.people with pedigree...not trying another person that will take us back to 8th position.
It's easier.to.help some one who is on 2nd to first
Let hope we get a good striker and keep our core and a crossed finger to.be injury-free.
I can't loose over what I can't control

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dominique(f): 1:08pm On May 31
daveP:


The delulians want us to be eternally grateful that he "lifted the club from misery"


Let's assume that's even the factual truth, are we then meant to stay stuck on that as each season es? No criticism? No questions? Nothing divergent must be raised to his royal highness?

1st season- stay grateful
2nd
3rd
4th
5th-ask no question. He took you out of misery


Begging question: But Mikel Arteta himself is the one that said Trust The Process?

Meaning we have every right to be critical as time es, especially with respect to what rivals are doing better.


Delulians: Gekskksoodnbdgudowkmsvtsrfsfdaetaoak affaiaoakhsvwgowlsnvstiwonsvcsnl you guys are ungrateful and deluded. Blame the board.

Had to bring this back. As one of the delulu Arteta er, I'm not going to let this slide. Do you know how much Arteta has spent on players from 2020 to date, £600m+! Klopp spent almost a billion pounds to buy players before Liverpool could win the league after 5 years he's been coaching them. We keep screaming at Arteta to buy this player and that player, we never ask how much funds he has at his disposal. Last transfer window, the board didn't release any funds. What else was he supposed to do? Buy players from his own pocket? I don't believe any coach can do better than Arteta is doing with the resources at his disposal.

Proudly delulu Arteta er cool✌🏽
iamoyindamola(m): 1:22pm On May 31
dominique:


Had to bring this back. As one of the delulu Arteta er, I'm not going to let this slide. Do you know how much Arteta has spent on players from 2020 to date, £600m+! Klopp spent almost a billion pounds to buy players before Liverpool could win the league after 5 years he's been coaching them. We keep screaming at Arteta to buy this player and that player, we never ask how much funds he has at his disposal. Last transfer window, the board didn't release any funds. What else was he supposed to do? Buy players from his own pocket? I don't believe any coach can do better than Arteta is doing with the resources at his disposal.

Proudly delulu Arteta er cool✌🏽
When he was given money who did he buy
Did we ever need kai?
shoud we talk about the likes of Viera, Ramsdale, Maquinhos, Tavares, Awilo, Mari etc
Everyone knows our club doesn't have much to spend, we can't compete with the big boys, imagine we eventually get Mydrk how do we come out of such a mess
iamoyindamola(m): 1:23pm On May 31
MSGAMBLE9:
In All competition yes... She has more goals in UWCL, FA cup than Russo... Russo is our highest scorer in the WSL


Breakdown - 9 WSL, 8 UWCl and 4 others goals....
That's really huge, if she wins Euros with Spain
Then it will be between Bonati and her, but she will have the edge
MSGAMBLE9: 2:13pm On May 31
iamoyindamola:

That's really huge, if she wins Euros with Spain
Then it will be between Bonati and her, but she will have the edge
You are right...the scary part is her leading the whole Arsenal team in Tackles won, Interception, duels, Assist and Goals...She even has 2 Assists for Spain last night.


We wasted Carzola potentials that year with half-baked players like Song, Denilson Giroud etc.
Spy360(m): 5:58pm On May 31
dominique:


I'm one of Arteta's biggest ers. Back in 21/22 when people were calling for his sack, I was part of the people that was preaching to impatient fans to cut his some slack and trust the process. Yes, I've been trusting the process for over 5 years now and I still trust his process but I still can't help but raise my eyebrow at his player selection. As if we've not suffered enough in the hands of Chelsea and man city rejects, he wants to go and bring in Leroy Sane, wtf? Anyways I'm happy with his Zubimendi selection and Sesko is not so bad. He had an average of 25% shot to goal accuracy last season which was his poorest so far. I believe Arteta can help him work on his goal scoring abilities like he did with Merino. We're still in the race for Gyökres and possibly Alvarez from Athletico Madrid. I hope the board listen to the cries of the fans and release enough funds, we will surely eat well next season.
That's the spirit
kodded(m): 5:58pm On May 31
dominique:


Had to bring this back. As one of the delulu Arteta er, I'm not going to let this slide. Do you know how much Arteta has spent on players from 2020 to date, £600m+! Klopp spent almost a billion pounds to buy players before Liverpool could win the league after 5 years he's been coaching them. We keep screaming at Arteta to buy this player and that player, we never ask how much funds he has at his disposal. Last transfer window, the board didn't release any funds. What else was he supposed to do? Buy players from his own pocket? I don't believe any coach can do better than Arteta is doing with the resources at his disposal.

Proudly delulu Arteta er cool✌🏽


Lol


The lies delulu fans make just to remain in their delusion grin grin grin

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Spy360(m): 6:01pm On May 31
iamoyindamola:
When he was given money who did he buy
Did we ever need kai?
shoud we talk about the likes of Viera, Ramsdale, Maquinhos, Tavares, Awilo, Mari etc
Everyone knows our club doesn't have much to spend, we can't compete with the big boys, imagine we eventually get Mydrk how do we come out of such a mess
You forget easily that then Arsenal was not attractive to top players. It's the same reason Man United is settling for Cunha and not Gyokeres, Chelsea is settling for Delap.

Now that we are attractive we are getting Zubimendi and Gyokeres is begging to .

It didn't happen in one day.

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daveP(m): 6:54pm On May 31
MSGAMBLE9:
it's the lack of ambition mixed with emotions that irked me...some are okay/comfortable with just trying to be second best...

There are visible areas that needs improving to cross the line for 2 years now buh we are either going for 25m back-up GK and been linked with Ajax's Hato ( another defender) for 50m again...


Have seen this "Script" before...

Thank you. They wear it as armor that any little sparring, they just use the armor over and over. You throway strikers and na Kai you carry come to replace them. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Infact he didn't replace them. Empty zone. Got his Kai and then shifted him to the 9 zone. Confusion confusion.

One would think we aren't surrounded by witnesses and evidences to make any foolish defense of his decisions. One would think we have clubs from Latvia league as rivals. Moving like say other teams no dey do their own to grab trophies and that ours is the uniquest of all. Smh
daveP(m): 7:02pm On May 31
dominique:


Had to bring this back. As one of the delulu Arteta er, I'm not going to let this slide. Do you know how much Arteta has spent on players from 2020 to date, £600m+! Klopp spent almost a billion pounds to buy players before Liverpool could win the league after 5 years he's been coaching them. We keep screaming at Arteta to buy this player and that player, we never ask how much funds he has at his disposal. Last transfer window, the board didn't release any funds. What else was he supposed to do? Buy players from his own pocket? I don't believe any coach can do better than Arteta is doing with the resources at his disposal.

Proudly delulu Arteta er cool✌🏽

Oh my!!!

You started and ended this the wrongest of ways. You make it seem like none of us complaining currently were not staunch ers. You also seem to not grasp the usage of that term with respect to time and hence, decided to wear it as some proud laurel.... I dunno how to react to this overall, but you started off on the wrong foot.


Most of those complaining have details wrt time and that's what irks many. Internal details abound. Not to talk of the external details, the ones of rivals also competing for trophies-what makes them stand out and all.

Why the term delulu is because they kick against any criticism of MA when even his godfather gets criticism in loads in that very Man City he is. They kick against any sort of reasonable assessment of his term as manager when we assessed Emery and use it to taunt him till date. Did Emery ever get this level of grace ever, to say the least?

So Klopp build a team, and then Slot came and used that team to win over Arteta that won FA with Emery's team but suddenly can't smell even Carabao each season?


Woh. Oro por jare. Bottom line-you seriously misconstrued what that term meant in context

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daveP(m): 7:08pm On May 31
When you say reason, an excuse pops up for it. When you demand results, the comparism that was dodged suddenly pops back in usage.

What exactly irks y'all about demanding for results and game changers when that's what's lacking in philosophy? Or is winning one trophy what you'll be satisfied with and then drought continues? Is that it?


Recruitment alone is one big evidence to everything we disagree about. Throwing away without replacements. Even girls that don't understand football but watch it with you can see it well.

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daveP(m): 7:10pm On May 31
iamoyindamola:

Evidence of delulu fans
Even club legends are complaining, enough is enough


Alll over club football, legends speak up. Perhaps Bayern fans should drag Kahn for saying some stuff about the club.

Perhaps When Koeman and co made statements about Barca, they're foolish. Until e reason Henry and suddenly they push sinister agendas as why he talks that way. Lol.

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daveP(m): 10:28pm On May 31
"the best team lost tonight"


Imagine Simone Inzaghi saying that after this lashing to a technical and tactical Luis Enrique team....

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Roland17(m): 11:25pm On May 31
kodded:



Lol


The lies delulu fans make just to remain in their delusion grin grin grin

Them go conjure another lie.. Just wait.

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WhiteIverson: 11:49pm On May 31
dominique:


Had to bring this back. As one of the delulu Arteta er, I'm not going to let this slide. Do you know how much Arteta has spent on players from 2020 to date, £600m+! Klopp spent almost a billion pounds to buy players before Liverpool could win the league after 5 years he's been coaching them. We keep screaming at Arteta to buy this player and that player, we never ask how much funds he has at his disposal. Last transfer window, the board didn't release any funds. What else was he supposed to do? Buy players from his own pocket? I don't believe any coach can do better than Arteta is doing with the resources at his disposal.

Proudly delulu Arteta er cool✌🏽
Klopp spent a billion in 9 years, won the EPL, UCL, Super cup, Club world cup. 4 major trophies.

Arteta has spent 791 million in 5 years (it would be 6 by December) but can only boast of FA cup, Community Shield and finishing second in the EPL every time.

Going by your comparison, he has 3 more seasons and 300 million Euros left to spend and achieve what Klopp did.

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WhiteIverson: 11:57pm On May 31
Note that Mancity did 4 in a row after Arteta was hired, despite spending less that Arsenal in that timeframe

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germaphobe(m): 12:40am On Jun 01
The way the word delulu have been used here is actually funny to me, I using this same word some months back, abi years back and one of you guys almost wanted a physical fight with me.
The thing is, you guys think and believe some of us only wants to defend Arteta(well some might), but that's not true. I see things just a little differently from some of us here, Arteta isn't above criticism, but bringing pure hate into criticism isn't ideal. If he fucvks up, he suppose collect, call out his mistakes and question it but degrading a club you because of the coach isn't right. I have gone through the pages and I respect one moniker here for how he talks about the team, you can see he isn't ok with Arteta but his criticism ends there and not dragging the club and team, but I can't say the same for you lots. Last last Arteta isn't leaving and will be here next season so why drag and kill on the matter, d disappointment was felt by everyone but the season is over and he isn't leaving. It's OK to vent about last season errors, and then look forward to the new season with optimism(even though it might be hard). Omor!!!.

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ObaIgwe1: 1:05pm On Jun 01
germaphobe:
The way the word delulu have been used here is actually funny to me, I using this same word some months back, abi years back and one of you guys almost wanted a physical fight with me.
The thing is, you guys think and believe some of us only wants to defend Arteta(well some might), but that's not true. I see things just a little differently from some of us here, Arteta isn't above criticism, but bringing pure hate into criticism isn't ideal. If he fucvks up, he suppose collect, call out his mistakes and question it but degrading a club you because of the coach isn't right. I have gone through the pages and I respect one moniker here for how he talks about the team, you can see he isn't ok with Arteta but his criticism ends there and not dragging the club and team, but I can't say the same for you lots. Last last Arteta isn't leaving and will be here next season so why drag and kill on the matter, d disappointment was felt by everyone but the season is over and he isn't leaving. It's OK to vent about last season errors, and then look forward to the new season with optimism(even though it might be hard). Omor!!!.

I get you bro. But I doubt many here are dragging the club down. I have only seen people dragging Arteta and sometimes they also drag Kroenke. And you really can't blame them, after each and every disappointment, Arteta has to bear the brunt cos the buck stops at his desk.

I am one of the people who ed Arteta from the start and believed he should be given time to grow and implement the process. Has he improved the team? I will say Yes Tremendously. Did he make mistakes? Yes very many, including very costly ones. These including some of the bad gs and bad decisions made on the field. But then even highly experienced Managers make these same mistakes.

I honestly still couldn't shake off the feeling that Arsenal would have won the CL yesterday if only Arteta had done more, especially if he had made more effort on getting a good CF in January after Jesus' injury, but he thought Harvez would be injury free.

One thing is sure for all fans, we love the club 1st before any manager. Managers come and go but the club remains. At the end of last season, I thought we shouldn't gamble on bringing a new manager that might disrupt the team progress, but then Slot happened at Liverpool. It wouldn't have mattered to me if Arteta is removed now, but I know he is not going anywhere, the guy brought in lots of money for the owners last season.

So moving forward is to hope that Arteta has learned more from his mistakes and will only improve, the board will provide the fund to get the quality additions we need, and with luck not against us, we might bring in some trophies this season.

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germaphobe(m): 2:23pm On Jun 01
ObaIgwe1:


I get you bro. But I doubt many here are dragging the club down. I have only seen people dragging Arteta and sometimes they also drag Kroenke. And you really can't blame them, after each and every disappointment, Arteta has to bear the brunt cos the buck stops at his desk.

I am one of the people who ed Arteta from the start and believed he should be given time to grow and implement the process. Has he improved the team? I will say Yes Tremendously. Did he make mistakes? Yes very many, including very costly ones. These including some of the bad gs and bad decisions made on the field. But then even highly experienced Managers make these same mistakes.

I honestly still couldn't shake off the feeling that Arsenal would have won the CL yesterday if only Arteta had done more, especially if he had made more effort on getting a good CF in January after Jesus' injury, but he thought Harvez would be injury free.

One thing is sure for all fans, we love the club 1st before any manager. Managers come and go but the club remains. At the end of last season, I thought we shouldn't gamble on bringing a new manager that might disrupt the team progress, but then Slot happened at Liverpool. It wouldn't have mattered to me if Arteta is removed now, but I know he is not going anywhere, the guy brought in lots of money for the owners last season.

So moving forward is to hope that Arteta has learned more from his mistakes and will only improve, the board will provide the fund to get the quality additions we need, and with luck not against us, we might bring in some trophies this season.

apt!!!!
Lush100(m): 3:54pm On Jun 01
ObaIgwe1:


I get you bro. But I doubt many here are dragging the club down. I have only seen people dragging Arteta and sometimes they also drag Kroenke. And you really can't blame them, after each and every disappointment, Arteta has to bear the brunt cos the buck stops at his desk.

I am one of the people who ed Arteta from the start and believed he should be given time to grow and implement the process. Has he improved the team? I will say Yes Tremendously. Did he make mistakes? Yes very many, including very costly ones. These including some of the bad gs and bad decisions made on the field. But then even highly experienced Managers make these same mistakes.

I honestly still couldn't shake off the feeling that Arsenal would have won the CL yesterday if only Arteta had done more, especially if he had made more effort on getting a good CF in January after Jesus' injury, but he thought Harvez would be injury free.

One thing is sure for all fans, we love the club 1st before any manager. Managers come and go but the club remains. At the end of last season, I thought we shouldn't gamble on bringing a new manager that might disrupt the team progress, but then Slot happened at Liverpool. It wouldn't have mattered to me if Arteta is removed now, but I know he is not going anywhere, the guy brought in lots of money for the owners last season.

So moving forward is to hope that Arteta has learned more from his mistakes and will only improve, the board will provide the fund to get the quality additions we need, and with luck not against us, we might bring in some trophies this season.

.

Sir
I'm not even of the opinion that Arteta can't or should not be sacked....as we are keeping hold of Arteta for good job done...if Ancelotti is available or Zidane, let's move for them,
But because of bit hitting the CUP target we loose our senses and employ ZeRoberto or
Porter....just to be swinging managers...like Chelsea or Spurs.
For each manager exit b4 enfung payments are made.
I am sure we all.wanted a CF in January but they bided at window end to a club that sold it's other CF.
Ofcourse as a manager if your employer says they have not much cash you can only tell.them you will use the available resources to achieve hoping by next splash you will be given more funds.

I'm.happy we have sporting director so that all of them will share blame including Arteta.
Me sef I was critical of him playing some players during that dead rubber game with PSV and left butler oyedeji on bench.
But comparing it yo last year....he has started dropping players to rest them unlike b4 he will play players to the ground even to lesser cup game.
Roland17(m): 7:46pm On Jun 01
ObaIgwe1:


I get you bro. But I doubt many here are dragging the club down. I have only seen people dragging Arteta and sometimes they also drag Kroenke. And you really can't blame them, after each and every disappointment, Arteta has to bear the brunt cos the buck stops at his desk.

I am one of the people who ed Arteta from the start and believed he should be given time to grow and implement the process. Has he improved the team? I will say Yes Tremendously. Did he make mistakes? Yes very many, including very costly ones. These including some of the bad gs and bad decisions made on the field. But then even highly experienced Managers make these same mistakes.

I honestly still couldn't shake off the feeling that Arsenal would have won the CL yesterday if only Arteta had done more, especially if he had made more effort on getting a good CF in January after Jesus' injury, but he thought Harvez would be injury free.

One thing is sure for all fans, we love the club 1st before any manager. Managers come and go but the club remains. At the end of last season, I thought we shouldn't gamble on bringing a new manager that might disrupt the team progress, but then Slot happened at Liverpool. It wouldn't have mattered to me if Arteta is removed now, but I know he is not going anywhere, the guy brought in lots of money for the owners last season.

So moving forward is to hope that Arteta has learned more from his mistakes and will only improve, the board will provide the fund to get the quality additions we need, and with luck not against us, we might bring in some trophies this season.


I can accommodate this perspective from a fan who still believes in Arteta.

Suddenly, the agenda and angu has degenerated into bringing the club down because after 6 years some of us have become stronger critics of Arteta because of the continuous lack of ability and valuable success.

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iamoyindamola(m): 9:22pm On Jun 01
Roland17:


I can accommodate this perspective from a fan who still believes in Arteta.

Suddenly, the agenda and angu has degenerated into bringing the club down because after 6 years some of us have become stronger critics of Arteta because of the continuous lack of ability and valuable success.





Omo I didn’t know you noticed too
germaphobe(m): 11:07pm On Jun 01
I guess making fun of the club in the name of sarcasm because of a bad season caused by different reasons of which the coach's mistakes is one of them is just about criticising Arteta. All of us still dey here and next season go long shaa.
Agenda ni, Agumba ke.
germaphobe(m): 11:20pm On Jun 01
For someone who sees the g of Calafiori as a scam and Merino too when our existing players in their position before their g haven't been reliable in the course of a full season, that is the real definition of delusion. We all advocated for the g of a striker and Saka deputy, but it didn't happen, so we should kill ourselves because of it or move forward with what we have?. We talk about packing defenders but when Ben white was out and if not for Timber playing through injury we would have been seeing Partey as a left back for long. Kiwior coming in for Gabriel, Calafiori giving skelly the rest he needs(even though he too was injured) But somehow it's all useless gs. We need investment in other areas doesn't mean the ones we reinforced in wasn't necessary. The only issue I have is changing goalkeepers every season.

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Roland17(m): 1:15am On Jun 02
iamoyindamola:

Omo I didn’t know you noticed too

Hahaaa

We plenty wen wan bring the club down oh!

Thank God say TH14 don our group.

grin

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germaphobe(m): 2:10am On Jun 02
Just as Henry said, "I’m not saying it’s a disappointment, but it’s normal that people are raising questions now about what the team is doing.” we should be competing for trophies and getting to them finals steadily and the lack of that can be blamed on everyone of them involved, from the players, to the coach, to the directors and board. Questioning what the team is doing is 100% different from hate watching.(but what do i know, i'm just a delulu Arteta lover, who wants Agenda) grin grin. We were interested in isak when he was still at sociedad but nothing concrete was done because the board thought the price was too much for such a player then. Same with other gs, but somehow it's always Arteta's fault. Werey rush go carry sterling wey him life don finish, and the board approve am sharp sharp. So much bitter leaf from people wey talk say cool cool 🤐

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