NewStats: 3,264,056 , 8,182,446 topics. Date: Monday, 09 June 2025 at 01:14 PM 714a

samistry:
https://x.com/FadeAwayMedia/status/1927748179174302101
Just when you think you've seen it all

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https://x.com/JulianWks/status/1927888563812663314
The deathriders are never denying the racist allegations.

pu7pl3:


Better to leave the title in the hands of a veteran like Jayne then.

https://www.cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=21368&page=4
Veteran wey never beat anybody notable 🤣. study cagematch and get back to me

samistry:

According to rumors Jordynne and Stephanie may be called up soon.

another thing I don't get is why they have to lose before they migrate. Why lose to a rookie when you're becoming a main roster person. Makes no sense. It simply means the rookie is still better than you. I'm still glad Austin didn't have to lose the IC belt before he went for the world title. One of wrestling's rules we still have to look into.

ValeeLove:
another thing I don't get is why they have to lose before they migrate. Why lose to a rookie when you're becoming a main roster person. Makes no sense. It simply means the rookie is still better than you. I'm still glad Austin didn't have to lose the IC belt before he went for the world title. One of wrestling's rules we still have to look into.

Vacating a title isn't much better in my opinion. It creates a gap in the succession, cheapens the lineage and credibility.

samistry:

Vacating a title isn't much better in my opinion. It creates a gap in the succession, cheapens the lineage and credibility.

like it's a taboo to vacate titles. Titles are vacated regularly. I know vacating the title protects the wrestler. They don't look weak going up. How's the perception of Stephanie going up now that she's lost? The first impression is that she's arrived a loser. Perhaps it's why they don't make impact initially when they arrive. Compare with Asuka who never lost. Before she debuted, they had a match for who would get to face her. That's how I see it. I always apply logic to these debates.

Does Cena still toss his shirts as a heel?

ValeeLove:
like it's a taboo to vacate titles. Titles are vacated regularly. I know vacating the title protects the wrestler. They don't look weak going up. How's the perception of Stephanie going up now that she's lost? The first impression is that she's arrived a loser. Perhaps it's why they don't make impact initially when they arrive. Compare with Asuka who never lost. Before she debuted, they had a match for who would get to face her. That's how I see it. I always apply logic to these debates.

Stephanie has already had matches on the main roster before she lost the NXT title so I don't know what weakness you're on about.

Your solution is to give everyone an asuka streak? How long do we expand this streak? because I seem to recall the iwc losing their minds when Charlotte broke Asuka streak at mania.
You vacate your titles periodically then nobody is going to care about it. Booking 101.
Fact it happened with Stone Cold and Asuka is the rarity and not the norm.

My issue isn't Stephanie losing but rather the lack of build for who defeated her?
I didn't complain when Roxanne lost to giulia.
Same way I didn't complain when giulia lost to Stephanie because they built up the challengers well.

ValeeLove:
another thing I don't get is why they have to lose before they migrate. Why lose to a rookie when you're becoming a main roster person. Makes no sense. It simply means the rookie is still better than you. I'm still glad Austin didn't have to lose the IC belt before he went for the world title. One of wrestling's rules we still have to look into.

It's common practice for wrestlers to bow out on their backs, hopefully putting someone over

ValeeLove:
Does Cena still toss his shirts as a heel?

No. You get nothing.

samistry:

Stephanie has already had matches on the main roster before she lost the NXT title so I don't know what weakness you're on about.

Your solution is to give everyone an asuka streak? How long do we expand this streak? because I seem to recall the iwc losing their minds when Charlotte broke Asuka streak at mania.
You vacate your titles periodically then nobody is going to care about it. Booking 101.
Fact it happened with Stone Cold and Asuka is the rarity and not the norm.

My issue isn't Stephanie losing but rather the lack of build for who defeated her?
I didn't complain when Roxanne lost to giulia.
Same way I didn't complain when giulia lost to Stephanie because they built up the challengers well.

the last is what's ed - who did you lose to and when. Regardless of her main roster matches, her current status is that she lost to a rookie.
Don't give anyone Asuka or Goldberg streak, just learn to imbibe a culture of vacating titles so not to water down the wrestlers and their accomplishment before they get called up. If it worked for Austin and Asuka, then it will work for everyone else.

Coolname:


It's common practice for wrestlers to bow out on their backs, hopefully putting someone over

it's counter-productive.

ValeeLove:
it's counter-productive.

I absolutely disagree. Keeping the title on an exiting weather is peak LolTNA era booking. It should only be done very rarely

Coolname:


I absolutely disagree. Keeping the title on an exiting weather is peak LolTNA era booking. It should only be done very rarely

why?

ValeeLove:
why?

When someone who is in top of the card is about to leave, there should be a succession plan. One good way is to let your big star put over an star.

Although a clean win is ideal, this isn't a hard rule because that could be boring if overdone. There could always be outside shenanigans. An heel can cheat to win. You can have more than two competitors in the match so the star doesn't have to take the pin. All these work to establish a new top star to a certain extent.

Relinquishing the belt rarely ever achieves this.

Coolname:


When someone who is in top of the card is about to leave, there should be a succession plan. One good way is to let your big star put over an star.

Although a clean win is ideal, this isn't a hard rule because that could be boring if overdone. There could always be outside shenanigans. An heel can cheat to win. You can have more than two competitors in the match so the star doesn't have to take the pin. All these work to establish a new top star to a certain extent.

Relinquishing the belt rarely ever achieves this.

you forgot one thing; nobody really cares about the developmental belts. The reason for developmental is preparation for the main roster. The belts at best sets a wrestler on the path to the main roster. It puts a stamp on you that you're ready, then you go ahead and lose it. That stamp goes away. The new talents can't be established in the dev brand because technically they're not yet talent. They are only taken seriously when they go up.
Again, if it worked for Austin and Asuka then it's something they should look into and do more. The coming wrestlers will be fine, but they shouldn't water down those going up. Logically speaking Jacy should be the one going to the main roster, after all she's just proved that she's better than Steph.

ValeeLove:
you forgot one thing; nobody really cares about the developmental belts. The reason for developmental is preparation for the main roster. The belts at best sets a wrestler on the path to the main roster. It puts a stamp on you that you're ready, then you go ahead and lose it. That stamp goes away. The new talents can't be established in the dev brand because technically they're not yet talent. They are only taken seriously when they go up.
Again, if it worked for Austin and Asuka then it's something they should look into and do more. The coming wrestlers will be fine, but they shouldn't water down those going up. Logically speaking Jacy should be the one going to the main roster, after all she's just proved that she's better than Steph.

Granted, they are developmental belts. However NXT is still a show its own right, with it's viewership sometimes competing with AEW Dynamite before the latter moved to streaming. Therefore, it has its own top stars and ecosystem. Furthermore, WWE wants to make as much money from the product as possible, so of course there'll be a succession plan for the main attraction. Matter of fact, the title is more of a right of age for promising talent than anything. There shouldn't be a problem dropping it when a good portion of WWE fans don't even know much about NXT.

Also, you can't make everyone Asuka. It's bad booking to cheapen Austin and Asuka streaks by giving it to every Tom, Dick, and Harry. We saw Bron Breakker drop his belt to Carmelo Hayes and then drop the tag team title to Fraxiom before leaving NXT. Has he had any trouble establishing himself as a threat?

Now we know who is winning women's MITB

https://x.com/WWE/status/1928575899827581076?t=8jd_-mSzh0s_Q_VtHVx8mg&s=19

Ehen now. Since the company that owns him has refused to promote their up coming match with him, even going as far as unprofessionally declaring a winner before the match, he has to promote it himself. Nice work.

Ehen now. Since the company that owns him has refused to promote their up coming match with him, even going as far as unprofessionally declaring a winner before the match, he has to promote it himself. Nice work.

ValeeLove:
Ehen now. Since the company that owns him has refused to promote their up coming match with him, even going as far as unprofessionally declaring a winner before the match, he has to promote it himself. Nice work.

ing a domestic ab to own the Fed

ValeeLove:
Ehen now. Since the company that owns him has refused to promote their up coming match with him, even going as far as unprofessionally declaring a winner before the match, he has to promote it himself. Nice work.

No Smackdown updates? And I missed this one.

Coolname:


ing a domestic ab to own the Fed

strip him or promote him. Can't have both.

Coolname:


Granted, they are developmental belts. However NXT is still a show its own right, with it's viewership sometimes competing with AEW Dynamite before the latter moved to streaming. Therefore, it has its own top stars and ecosystem. Furthermore, WWE wants to make as much money from the product as possible, so of course there'll be a succession plan for the main attraction. Matter of fact, the title is more of a right of age for promising talent than anything. There shouldn't be a problem dropping it when a good portion of WWE fans don't even know much about NXT.

Also, you can't make everyone Asuka. It's bad booking to cheapen Austin and Asuka streaks by giving it to every Tom, Dick, and Harry. We saw Bron Breakker drop his belt to Carmelo Hayes and then drop the tag team title to Fraxiom before leaving NXT. Has he had any trouble establishing himself as a threat?

the belt might not matter that much, but the culture does. What happens in NXT happens on the main roster and it has an adverse effect, really. For a lot of fans, it's always about culture and tradition; I don't care about those. I only keep a culture if it makes sense. It's a new age, some things have to be done away with. This one is one of them. I can't stand Gunther losing the IC title to Sami at Mania and that suddenly promotes him to main event status? Where's the logic? You're not even good enough to remain a midcarder but somehow the main event is what suits you? Make it make sense. That's my peace.

ValeeLove:
strip him or promote him. Can't have both.

The acquisition isn't finalized until September iirc and they probably didn't want to be promoting a guy who tied a woman to a chair and assaulted her for hours.

Mariah May seems Fed-bound

ValeeLove:
the belt might not matter that much, but the culture does. What happens in NXT happens on the main roster and it has an adverse effect, really. For a lot of fans, it's always about culture and tradition; I don't care about those. I only keep a culture if it makes sense. It's a new age, some things have to be done away with. This one is one of them. I can't stand Gunther losing the IC title to Sami at Mania and that suddenly promotes him to main event status? Where's the logic? You're not even good enough to remain a midcarder but somehow the main event is what suits you? Make it make sense. That's my peace.

It makes sense because he earned the title. You can just say got cocky and lost the title to Sami Zayn at Mania, so he locked in and won a more prestigious title. Simple as that.

Weren't Spurs just a step above relegation when they won the Europa League?

Coolname:
Mariah May seems Fed-bound

She's never hidden her love for the fed

Sorry Hunter, no confidence


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI8lDQNKWrY

Coolname:
Sorry Hunter, no confidence


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI8lDQNKWrY

This one pain me😪😪