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Gbadebo19(m): 1:58pm On May 29 |
Bigsam99:Don't say things I didn't say. I never said I was persecuted by Muslims. Let's be guided. To your other point about if a Muslim sees what is happening in Gaza, your point will only hold water if they are not the real criminal hiding under the cloak "victims of genocide." We have seen women and children as suicide bombers, the same group who anyone will want to protect. In places like that Gaza you talk of, give the Muslims a breathing space and you'll be sorry you did. Israel knows exactly what they are doing and the Arab world themselves know what Hamas and Palestinians seek to achieve. Have you asked yourself why none of the Arab countries is willing to take the Palestinians as refugees? Have you asked why they don't even donate aid to them. Everyone knows that Hamas is simply a terror tool used by some groups to try to wipe out Israel. |
Bigsam99: 2:09pm On May 29 |
Like I said earlier, the violence of the Palestinians is not the action, it is a reaction to their oppression by the Jews. Mind you, there are also Christians in Palestine and they are in the struggle as well. Nelson Mandela was considered a terrorist before he won the hearts of the western powers. The reasons for not taking in Palestinian refugees has nothing to do with why they should be oppressed. There are different middle eastern states with different agendas for Palestine based on what benefits their leaders. Saudi, Qatar, Egypt, and Jordan all have selfish agendas concerning Palestine. Even Iran is not altogether innocent just that it is willing to risk a great deal to protect the Palestinians despite belonging to a different sect of Islam. Gbadebo19: |
usmanpogo(m): 2:21pm On May 29 |
FoolishBoy419: I wish I could like this statement multiple times, the intolerance preached by these three religions are unparalleled. At some point we need to examine the adverse effect these religions have in our society, I gave up defending any of these religions because you can't do it without looking stupid. At one point in history all these three religions was able to spread through committing genocide on a scale that has never been seen. The Jews have done it and are still doing it, the Christians did it through colonization, the Muslim did it during the Islamization of the middle east and Africa. Look at the role Muslim terrorist are playing in Africa, look at the role the Jews are playing in Palestine, till these day many Americans continue to celebrate thanksgiving, an holiday that has been whitewashed to cover the atrocities of the puritans calling themselves the Pilgrims. Like I said, it's impossible to defend these three religions with a working brain. The sad part is most Africans can't see it through all these charades. While this is not a call to jettison or besmirch anyone's religious affiliation, however, we must ask certain questions. Another observation, We all have our Muslim names and Christian names, in most cases, these names have nothing to do with our religious practices but the region it originates actually. Take the name Muhammad for example, there were people bearing the name before the prophet (SAW), the name is more of an Arabic name than a Muslim name, the question here is why would Africans bear Arabic names while we aren't Arabs. I quite understand if people call or name their sons after the prophet but the need for the rest of it is what I think is unnecessary. As I have said earlier, this not limited to the Muslim, the most common "Christian" name is James, yet James is an English name. I'm sure you get the picture by now. If Arabs aren't taking African's name, why should we take their names ? The English aren't taking our names either why should we take their names. You can still be a Muslim and not have an Arabic name, just as you can be a Christian and not have an English name. I say this with all due respect, I think the people that came before us made a few mistakes and we must learn from that mistake. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Gbadebo19(m): 2:31pm On May 29 |
Bigsam99:Exactly where you have no point. How can Palestinians say people can't claim their father's house just because they have been away despite the fact their remnants still remain. Violence is definitely bound to happen that way and the only solution is to divide it which they rejected. C'est finis. If 50,000 of Kemi Badenoch come back to Nigeria, they will still claim their ancestral house or land as long as it was never legally sold to anyone else. Anyone occupying that land or house will have to vacate or better still, a division will occur. C'est finis. Any other thing is simple gibberish which will only bring war. |
Mikasaobi: 2:37pm On May 29 |
@bigsam99 I thank you for your response and education on history, DNA evidence of Arabs and the europeans in palestine s your claims. I agree with you on anyone approving what is happening to the Arabs in Palestine is an extremist and is no different from boko haram and Isis. 2 Likes |
Bigsam99: 2:44pm On May 29 |
My brother. Did you know the tribe that was living on the land of your father 2,000 years ago? What if their descendants came back and tell you to split your village in 2? There was no reasonable need for Zionism except the urgent need to pacify the Jews by the western powers who had persecuted them for centuries. Why was Zionism championed from Europe and not from Palestine at that time? Why is it that it is the Ashkenazi Jews from Europe who are at the top of the Israeli society today, discriminating against blacks and Asian Jews? I mentioned the story of the Bantu tribes, who migrated from present day South Eastern Nigeria around a thousand years ago, at a time not even up to how long the Hebrews have disappeared. Mind you, some people on the Mambilla Plateau still speak those languages in Nigeria. Imagine if the bantu tribes suddenly tell the Igbos and the middle beltans to split Igbo land and central Nigeria? Gbadebo19: |
Gbadebo19(m): 2:49pm On May 29 |
FoolishBoy419:Always nonsense and gibberish as usual. Religion was fabricated - Accepted. But that Jews used Judaism to conquer some "indigenous population" is arrant nonsense. 1. It is not from the Jewish religious books that we know that Judea was renamed to Palestine. 2. It is not from the Jewish religious books that we know that Emperor Hadrian did it. The only thing we should be contesting is "whether or not the population of Judea as at the time it was renamed is of the recent Palestinians blood or of the initial Jews." The larger percentage of the Palestinians population has always been semitic Arab. They also have a very very small percentage of semitic Jews. Semites are a group of people linked by related language such as Arabic, Aramaic or Hebrew. Whatever link the very very small percentage of even the semitic Jews have with the Jews is only a matter of language, which is Hebrew. Using the above to determine the population of the Palestinians, it becomes much clearer that they were just a group of people without any distinct identity. And that gives further credence to why they never had a capital seat of istration nor any known currency. All that gibberish of "indigenous population" is arrant nonsense. |
Gbadebo19(m): 2:53pm On May 29 |
Bigsam99:You keep using irrelevant circumstances to justify your point. I do not know the tribe that was living on my father's land 2000 years ago. But if a minority of them remained, I lived with them on the same land, I was aware that my father didn't buy the land, it definitely still belongs to them. If I didn't live with them or didn't know them, I could make a claim that it is mine but that isn't the situation in Palestine and Israel. Yes, understandably, 2000 years is a long time and I would fight to keep it. All these takes us back to why the partition was necessary. 3 Likes |
soqmeov: 2:54pm On May 29 |
FoolishBoy419:💯💯💯 Wis I could like this a thousand times 😬 2 Likes |
Gbadebo19(m): 3:00pm On May 29 |
Bigsam99:Where else should it have been championed from? From the minority in Palestine? Give me a better argument pls. 1 Like |
obedience4(m): 3:06pm On May 29 |
Bigsam99: Your issue is with the European Jews right?? that is a legitimate reason but it's not sufficient reason to downgrade the Jews right to a Jewish sovereign state. Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR): Article 13 of the UDHR explicitly states that everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state, and the right to leave any country, including their own, and to return to their country. Immigration is and will always be part of human life, the Muslim Arabs you call the inhabitants of the lands weren't the original owners and were once strangers too. There's is nothing wrong with European Jews moving to British mandate Palestine, It is within their right as far as the UN is concerned, They bought lands from Arabs and Jews alike and populated already established Jewish communities. The question should be? did the Palestinian Jews a minority in the land welcomed them?? Yes they did and together both European Jews and Palestine jews fought for the creation of a sovereign Jewish state. If your entire argument for the illegitimacy of the creation of the Jewish state is based solely on immigration, then sadly it seriously doesn't hold water. 1 Like |
FoolishBoy419: 3:36pm On May 29 |
usmanpogo: Sadly, that change might never ever come. In my community, a Hausa name attracts nothing but ridicule from Hausas themselves. The other day, Kano banned 'Kauyawa day,' a lovely and harmless Hausa tradition because it promotes 'immorality.' and the vast majority of them the ban. We are conquered people 😞 |
FoolishBoy419: 3:44pm On May 29 |
Gbadebo19: He is still clinging onto events much older than the great grandparents of his great grandmas parents. I was merely talking about what's evident in the Jewish books. I don't care whether they're the same ones that lived there 2000 years ago or not. I just have a problem with supremacists placed in a land they don't belong and being ed by self-acclaimed moral people as they carry out what their religious books encourage them to do. You are a terrorist sympathizer. Just hours ago, you implied that moderate muslims are all terrorists in disguise. That means if given the power, you'd kill everyone of them. |
obedience4(m): 3:47pm On May 29 |
Bigsam99: It was a proposal by the UN it wasn't law binding, Did the Arabs asked for negotiations on the proposals or they decide to initiate a civil war with the intent of destroying Jewish communities, a round table discussions would have thrashed any form of discord arsing from the partition in respect to displacement and the holy sites claimed by both entity, but the Arabs knowing fully well that they had the numbers and a superior military decided to destroy the Jewish state. Both sides had claims to the land, the Palestine jews although were the minority also had claims to the entire British mandate Palestine, Forget about the European Jews, the minority Palestinian Jews their ancestors once rule the entire f**king place and so they had authentic rights to the place. Are you denying that Arab Jews don't have legitimate claims to Palestine? Or do they not have the right to a Jewish state if they so chooses?. You said the British didn't have rights and lacked legitimacy, that's laughable, was the British the ancestral owners of Present day Nigeria, who carved out a country out of the vast land. the British, who gave you the name you currently bear the British. You become the legitimate ruler or authority by conquest either by force or by political means. How did the Jews once become the occupiers of the land? Wasn't it by conquest? How did the Ottoman Empire become the authority over Palestine? Wasn't it by conquest, the defeat of the Ottoman Empire in WW1 made the British empire the sole authority over Palestine, thus had legitimate rule over Palestine as backed by the League of Nations in 1922. One of the reasons given by the Arab coalition w for the military intervention was that the British Mandate was over and there wasn't a recognised authority over Palestine, hence they intervened. here you are saying the British lacked legitimacy and authority over Palestine. If present day Palestine are fighting and deserved a Palestine state, then the Jews also deserved a Jewish state in I947. 2 Likes |
Alamkiir: 3:50pm On May 29 |
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Gbadebo19(m): 4:01pm On May 29 |
FoolishBoy419:Dindinrin. Alasey!! 1 Like |
obedience4(m): 4:04pm On May 29 |
usmanpogo: Religion has it advantages and disvantages, your ancestors were killing twins and committing human sacrifices before the Religion came, education came to African mostly through religion by missionaries, trade and development are all benefits of Religion. Religion is not issue facing the Africa continent neither is it the names will bear, religious countries like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, are all doing fine and prospering, non religious countries like China is also prospering. All things should be done in moderation including Religion. |
FoolishBoy419: 4:12pm On May 29 |
Gbadebo19: Kai Kasan wannan yaren 😂 |
Gbadebo19(m): 4:18pm On May 29 |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Kokhba_revolt All you need about The Bar Kokhba revolt which was the displacement of Jews in their own land. Read the last line in the attached image and please tell me who the foreigners were if not some bastardized unrecognized people without an identity who are now claiming "indigenous population"
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usmanpogo(m): 4:19pm On May 29 |
FoolishBoy419: We are sadly the conquered race, we are at the bottom of the pile but I believe we can still savage what's left of our cultural dignity. Mental enslavement is real, we have been defeated mentally to the point that we believe everything or anything that came from us is not worthy of preservation or celebration. 2 Likes |
usmanpogo(m): 4:43pm On May 29 |
obedience4: While it's true there are some parts of South South Nigeria that killed twins. The SW Nigeria celebrates twins and think they are deities. The puritans burned witches alive, same goes to the Catholics at some point, are you saying the same people that brought Christianity to Nigeria to educate us aren't educated themselves. I can give you several instances that are similar to our condemnable act that you brought up, but what is evil is evil. There's no way to go about it, the three religions have caused nothing but deaths and continues to do so. Yes it has it advantages but it's disadvantages far outweighs it advantages at this point, especially on the African continent. How convenient of you to mention Saudi Arabia, UAE and Kuwait, what about their neighboring countries ? Lol 2 Likes |
obedience4(m): 4:49pm On May 29 |
usmanpogo: All am trying to bring out is that Religion is not the pressing issue in of the problems faced by the Africa continent. |
usmanpogo(m): 4:51pm On May 29 |
obedience4: Religion is the root cause of our insecurity in Africa, it's public knowledge, so many terror group, all have religious affiliations. 2 Likes |
obedience4(m): 5:01pm On May 29 |
usmanpogo: True, but Religion alone is not the culprits, for me ethnicism is the real issue facing the state. [i]Many Africa countries are not facing insurgency issues, they are still not developed[/]. |
usmanpogo(m): 5:51pm On May 29 |
obedience4: On the contrary, we have been facing insurgencies for almost two decades in Nigeria. Perhaps you have another definition for insurgency. It's a shame but it's the truth, almost all terror groups in Africa are Islamic d. Are you certain you're from the same Nigeria we are talking about ? Because this your argument get as e be oo lol 1 Like |
obedience4(m): 6:12pm On May 29 |
usmanpogo: I agreed with you 💯... Am just saying ethnicism is a bigger issue than Religion in Nigeria. The destruction of lives and property during Nigeria years of insurgency can't be compared to the destruction caused by ethnicism which pludged the country into civil war. |
sainttwist1(m): 6:25pm On May 29 |
Bigsam99:brother calm down, you are the one bending history to your narrative The land belong to the Jews maybe by conquest, history or whatever way |
WritterNg: 6:54pm On May 29 |
⚡Israel and Hamas have agreed to begin a ceasefire within hours.
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WritterNg: 6:55pm On May 29 |
WritterNg: If Hamas have been completely destroyed, according to some bozos here..... Who is Israel negotiating ceasefires with then?? 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 🇮🇱 🇺🇸 🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🤡 🤡 🤡 🤡 8 Likes |
WritterNg: 6:58pm On May 29 |
⚡The Russian delegation for the second round of talks in Istanbul will remain the same: Maria Zakharova
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