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Bigsam99:
The whole premise of the existence of a Jewish state was wrong from the onset, why won't the aArabs protest it.

Somebody came to your house and asked you to divide your house into 2 just because his ancestor used to live there 2 thousand years ago. When you protest, he in alliance with his powerful friends kill your children, forcefully takes the part he likes and fences you off. Then anytime you come out the enclosement to try to reclaim your land they label you terrorists.

Brother, if you are living in Southern Nigeria, chances are that you are living on a land that belonged to the Bantu tribes 1,000 years ago. The Bantus are currently in South Africa. Imagine if one day, somebody tells you that your village should be split in 2 because the Bantus are back. I hope you will gladly forfeit half of your father's land.

Forget all this back and forth on whether the Jewish state was necessary or not. We have thrashed that one over and over again just in case you are new to the thread. The land has always belong to Jews. I know your argument is all about "some Europeans" You are of the opinion that Palestinians are more of Jews than the Europeans. That is an argument that doesn't hold water. European Jews have been existing for over 1500 years. Stephen, the first xtian martyr was a Greek jew, Paul that wrote the majority of the new testament was a Turkish Jew. Arguments about "some Europeans" are not Jews is a very daft one.
That leaves us with the legality of the so called Palestinians who claim to be Jews. Their claim of being Jewish has always been contested for thousands of years. Answer the following questions.

1. How can a people claim to be Jews and not have a capital (something we knew the israelites had which was Jerusalem and Samaria.)
2. How can they claim to be Jews and cannot state their currency. (We knew the israelites used shekels).
The legality of the claim of being Jewish of the Palestinians is one that has never been settled convincingly and I repeat ,never been settled convincingly. Mere large population does not grant ownership of land to some people. Ilorin for instance till tomorrow will always belong to the Fulani even though the population is over 70% Yoruba.

Bigsam99:
Yes there are Bantus in Nigeria. There are people on the Mambilla plateu who speak the same language till this day. There was never a need to create a Jewish state.The creation of a Jewish state on one half of Palestine definitely displaced people. Remenber Jews and Arabs lived side by side on the land until the European Jews who had no land in Palestine arrived. It was a great fraud and wickedness.
Every Palestinian Jew had their own land and could have easily belonged to a state of Palestine with power sharing between Jews and Palestine. Why did those wicked Jews from Europe forcefully carve out a peaceful Palestine with the help of their European friends?

That's were you get it wrong yes Palestinian Jews had lands but were dhimis under the ottoman empire who the bristish took over Palestine from. Pogroms and Violence were constant
From 1830, there were recurring instances of violence against Jewish communities in Palestine, driven by a desire to prevent the establishment of a Jewish state and discourage Jewish immigration. Jews will never be safe in a Palestine where Muslims are the majority.


Jews migrated even from middle eastern countries reasons being persecution.

More Jews were expelled from middle eastern countries than Palestinians expelled from Palestine.

I don't know where you wanted those Jews to go.

Again European Jews were the most persecuted ethnicity in Europe maybe after blacks.

I get it the Jews are the only know people to return to a land that they have migrated from Some will say it's a miracle I'm very religious I believe that.


The Jews deserve a land where they are safe only Israel guarantees that.

Bigsam99:


You dey mind those nitwits? How can Russia that has twice the number of POWs as Ukraine have more casualties?

Them no dey use brain reason Ukraine matter just believe whatever nonsense you are told... From Russia is fighting with shovel to Russia is outproducing the entire west.

The most absurd reason for dispossessing anybody of their ancestral land is 'my forefathers used to live there'.

Today, there are Yorubas in Brazil. How absorb will it sound that those descendants come back to Nigeria and ask that Southern Nigeria be splitted up so they can have land. Please help me make it make sense. There was no basis for creating a Jewish state except that the Jews are influential and can get what they want. There is no other entity that has ever done that.

Mind you, the so called Arabs of Palestine are direct descendants of ancient Hebrews too and must have converted at a time when the Islamic wave swept that part.

Let me ask you, does Netanyahu look like a middle easterners?
Have you seen a white Yoruba before?
Why should there be a white Jew?

They are simply colonialists with a sweet story. The real Jews are the Arab Jews who have been on that land all along. The so called European Jews claim to Jerusalem is as baseless as Kemi Badenoch's 20th descendants claim to owning land i
in Oyo.

Gbadebo19:

Forget all this back and forth on whether the Jewish state was necessary or not. We have thrashed that one over and over again just in case you are new to the thread. The land has always belong to Jews. I know your argument is all about "some Europeans" You are of the opinion that Palestinians are more of Jews than the Europeans. That is an argument that doesn't hold water. European Jews have been existing for over 1500 years. Stephen, the first xtian martyr was a Greek jew, Paul that wrote the majority of the new testament was a Turkish Jew. Arguments about "some Europeans" are not Jews is a very daft one.
That leaves us with the legality of the so called Palestinians who claim to be Jews. Their claim of being Jewish has always been contested for thousands of years. Answer the following questions.

1. How can a people claim to be Jews and not have a capital (something we knew the israelites had which was Jerusalem and Samaria.)
2. How can they claim to be Jews and cannot state their currency. (We knew the israelites used shekels).
The legality of the claim of being Jewish of the Palestinians is one that has never been settled convincingly and I repeat ,never been settled convincingly. Mere large population does not grant ownership of land to some people. Ilorin for instance till tomorrow will always belong to the Fulani even though the population is over 70% Yoruba.

Bigsam99:
The whole premise of the existence of a Jewish state was wrong from the onset, why won't the aArabs protest it.

Somebody came to your house and asked you to divide your house into 2 just because his ancestor used to live there 2 thousand years ago. When you protest, he in alliance with his powerful friends kill your children, forcefully takes the part he likes and fences you off. Then anytime you come out the enclosement to try to reclaim your land they label you terrorists.

Brother, if you are living in Southern Nigeria, chances are that you are living on a land that belonged to the Bantu tribes 1,000 years ago. The Bantus are currently in South Africa. Imagine if one day, somebody tells you that your village should be split in 2 because the Bantus are back. I hope you will gladly forfeit half of your father's land.

Firstly, thank God you said the Jews are the ancestral owners of the land, They were Jews living in Palestine before the creation of the Jewish state, They were simply the minority because a lot of them migrated to European countries. The persecution of European Jews made the jews saw the need for a Jewish sovereign state, where the jews can live in safety among its kindred, European Jews bought lands from Arabs and non Arabs and created the "Yishuv" settlements while pressuring the UN and the British empire who controlled the Palestinian territory for a universal sovereign state of Israel. Which was granted by the UN . The US and the Soviet Union were the first two countries to acknowledge the state of Israel

The only reason why the state of Israel expanded was because of its victory in battle, The West Bank, goland heights, the sinai peninsula won't be Jewish territory if the Arabs did not decide to fight and invade the jews

Bigsam99:

The most absurd reason for dispossessing anybody of their ancestral land is 'my forefathers used to live there'.

Today, there are Yorubas in Brazil. How absorb will it sound that those descendants come back to Nigeria and ask that Southern Nigeria be splitted up so they can have land. Please help me make it make sense. There was no basis for creating a Jewish state except that the Jews are influential and can get what they want. There is no other entity that has ever done that.

Mind you, the so called Arabs of Palestine are direct descendants of ancient Hebrews too and must have converted at a time when the Islamic wave swept that part.

Let me ask you, does Netanyahu look like a middle easterners?
Have you seen a white Yoruba before?
Why should there be a white Jew?

They are simply colonialists with a sweet story. The real Jews are the Arab Jews who have been on that land all along. The so called European Jews claim to Jerusalem is as baseless as Kemi Badenoch's 20th descendants claim to owning land i
in Oyo.

Oga look here, while there may be no reason for them to ask that the land be divided, there is also no reason to say they cannot inhabit.. And that's exactly why the land had to be divided. And as long as they have a better claim or equal title to the existing people they meet, it is absurd to deny their claim.

Bigsam99:


Today, there are Yorubas in Brazil. How absorb will it sound that those descendants come back to Nigeria and ask that Southern Nigeria be splitted up so they can have land. Please help me make it make sense. There was no basis for creating a Jewish state except that the Jews are influential and can get what they want. There is no other entity that has ever done that.

Let's use this analogy, if the Yoruba people are being persecuted in Brazil, and they decide to migrate to their ancestral land which is Western Nigeria, let's also imagine that over time Western Nigeria has become dominated by Fulanis, but controlled by a foreign power lets use Russia as the foreign power, note they are still ethic Nigerian Yorubas living in Western Nigeria just that they're the minority, if the influential Brazilian Yorubas starts buying lands creating a Yoruba settlement with the aim of creating a Yoruba state, if they successfully make an appeal to the UN and pressure Russia to grant then independence, they shouldn't create a Yoruba state?? Because certain "Yoruba people" have overtime become Fulanis and that western Nigeria has become dominated by Fulanis??

Some years back there was a talk of an independent Yoruba nation, "Oduduwa Nation"
If it was implemented are you going to deny Brazilian Yorubas the right of being part of the newly formed nation because there fore fathers migrated??.

The Jews were the ancestral owners of the Palestine land, many migrated, but there's wasn't a time were there was no Jews in Palestine, they had lands, it was the persecution, and killings of the Jews particularly in Europe that brought the need of a Jewish state for Jews to live in.

Chelsea club is cursed they will never win anything until they give the club back to roman

Kingsnairaland:
Chelsea club is cursed they will never win anything until they give the club back to roman

jobless

obedience4:
For emphasis sake, he was killed in a Hamas structure under a hospital
Coward!!!

one "intelligent being" will till ask......where is the command center under the hospital?

Another "smart" guy will still shout genocide

2 Jets, 7 Drones, $1 Billion: Why the US Backed Out Against Houthis
The U.S. called it a success. Trump claimed the Houthis "don’t want to fight." But behind the ceasefire in the Red Sea lies a story of military missteps, lost jets, downed drones, and over $1 billion spent, with little to show for it. Operation Rough Rider was meant to crush the Iran-backed Houthis. Instead, it exposed cracks in America’s military strategy, left allies in the dark, and handed rebels a propaganda win.

The fact is that the US has never itted it lost any war

dvkot:
Them no dey use brain reason Ukraine matter just believe whatever nonsense you are told... From Russia is fighting with shovel to Russia is outproducing the entire west.

You forgot to include russia is using washing machine. Russia soldiers are training with sticks because guns have finished, russia soldiers are eating expired food

seunny4lif:

2 Jets, 7 Drones, $1 Billion: Why the US Backed Out Against Houthis
The U.S. called it a success. Trump claimed the Houthis "don’t want to fight." But behind the ceasefire in the Red Sea lies a story of military missteps, lost jets, downed drones, and over $1 billion spent, with little to show for it. Operation Rough Rider was meant to crush the Iran-backed Houthis. Instead, it exposed cracks in America’s military strategy, left allies in the dark, and handed rebels a propaganda win.

The fact is that the US has never itted it lost any war

Guy why do u and writerng keep posting rubbish fake news for years now...

Even if the us lost 1000 jets in a war it will still mean nothing to them because they have the money.

For a record houthis didn't shoot down any jet

The us has thousands of jet most of which they don't know what to do with them. Two jets crashed and these guys can't stop talking about it.

Russia is still trying to capture kharkiv since the beginning of the conflict

Kingsnairaland:
Chelsea club is cursed they will never win anything until they give the club back to roman

Height of madness

nedu666:



You forgot to include russia is using washing machine. Russia soldiers are training with sticks because guns have finished, russia soldiers are eating expired food

Lol

Allthelight:
jobless

It funny and it seems you're jobless

I heard Kremlin said trump is emotional

Which means trump is crying that Ukraine is losing so bad

Kingsnairaland:
I heard Kremlin said trump is emotional

Which means trump is crying that Ukraine is losing so bad

Russia’s export revenues have sured the European Union’s total aid to Ukraine, over 22B from the EU alone this year, driven largely by increased trade with China, India and Turkiye.
The European Union spent more on Russian energy imports last year than it sent as military aid to Ukraine, according to Trump.
The EU rebound on Russia gas after saying they will ban all Russia gas

So why can't they just buy land and live in peace along side their neighbours the Arabs. But they had to take half of the whole land and when the Arabs rebelled against this injustice they are labelled as savages.

Gold Meir and many early Zionists lived in Palestine and carried Palestinian port. Why did they carve out a specific area and make it exclusive for only Jews?

Gbadebo19:

Oga look here, while there may be no reason for them to ask that the land be divided, there is also no reason to say they cannot inhabit.. And that's exactly why the land had to be divided. And as long as they have a better claim or equal title to the existing people they meet, it is absurd to deny their claim.

The current Yorubaland is contiguously dominated by Yorubas and no other ethnic group so your analogy doesn't hold water. It was not the Palestinians that expelled the ancient Hebrews. Meanwhile, not all the so called European Jews even have genetic link to the ancient Hebrews. There ancestors were Europeans who got converted to the Jewish ways and now they want to reap where they never sowed.

Your analogy applies more to a place like the USA. Why not invite all descendants ofbthe red Indians and divide the USA and name one part Indian America.

obedience4:


Let's use this analogy, if the Yoruba people are being persecuted in Brazil, and they decide to migrate to their ancestral land which is Western Nigeria, let's also imagine that over time Western Nigeria has become dominated by Fulanis, but controlled by a foreign power lets use Russia as the foreign power, note they are still ethic Nigerian Yorubas living in Western Nigeria just that they're the minority, if the influential Brazilian Yorubas starts buying lands creating a Yoruba settlement with the aim of creating a Yoruba state, if they successfully make an appeal to the UN and pressure Russia to grant then independence, they shouldn't create a Yoruba state?? Because certain "Yoruba people" have overtime become Fulanis and that western Nigeria has become dominated by Fulanis??

Some years back there was a talk of an independent Yoruba nation, "Oduduwa Nation"
If it was implemented are you going to deny Brazilian Yorubas the right of being part of the newly formed nation because there fore fathers migrated??.

The Jews were the ancestral owners of the Palestine land, many migrated, but there's wasn't a time were there was no Jews in Palestine, they had lands, it was the persecution, and killings of the Jews particularly in Europe that brought the need of a Jewish state for Jews to live in.

Bigsam99:
So why can't they just buy land and live in peace along side their neighbours the Arabs. But they had to take half of the whole land and when the Arabs rebelled against this injustice they are labelled as savages.

Gold Meir and many early Zionists lived in Palestine and carried Palestinian port. Why did they carve out a specific area and make it exclusive for only Jews?

Live peaceful with the Arabs?? Was there ever peaceful co-habitation with the Jews and Arabs??young man go and read your history books. Go and read about the early hostilities between the Jews and the Arabs, The fued between the jews and Arabs is as old as time itself. There wasn't a Jewish state when a civil war broke out between jews and Arabs in British controlled Palestine.

There is no chance of a Jewish Arab peaceful co-habitation, Why was British India shared into two india and Pakistan?? why not allow the Hindus and moslems live together?? Both are two distinct sovereign states yet are fighting wars till tomorrow.

Gold Meir before the Jewish state creation would certainly carry a Palestine port. which port would you expect she would carry?? Palestine as a British control territory comprises of both Arab and Jewish people. before the creation of the state of Israel there were Jewish Palestine people Gold Meir inclusive. The British government relinquishes its authority over Palestine which gave birth to the Jewish state being created. Thus she became an Israeli citizen. will a Muslim man still be carrying the port of British controlled India after the creation of Pakistan??[/I]

[i]Jewish people will only be free and safe within a Jewish sovereign state.

Bigsam99:
The current Yorubaland is contiguously dominated by Yorubas and no other ethnic group so your analogy doesn't hold water. It was not the Palestinians that expelled the ancient Hebrews. Meanwhile, not all the so called European Jews even have genetic link to the ancient Hebrews There ancestors were Europeans who got converted to the Jewish ways and now they want to reap where they never sowed.

Your analogy applies more to a place like the USA. Why not invite all descendants ofbthe red Indians and divide the USA and name one part Indian America.

Dude it is called an example, the present day Palestine was once dominated by Jews, that's fact, All the early churches in the bible were all sited in present day Turkey and some middle-eastern countries like Jordan and Syria are they Christians today?? Is kwara state not a de-facto Fulani state?? Was it so before??

All your argument is base on European Jews They were already ethic Palestine Jews in British control Palestine before the Europeans Jews came, that is Fact, they were also European Jews who's ancestors were from present day Palestine that migrated due to being persecuted That's also fact, The Original Palestinian Jews wanted a Jewish sovereign state. All Jews were welcome from all part of the world to create, and defend the newly created Jewish state, Jews came from Europe, from America from Asia even from Africa mostly Ethiopian Jews, your argument about European Jews is sadly baseless.


P.s Before the creation of the Jewish state Palestine means both Arabs and Jews living in Britain controlled Palestine, it is on record that Palestine Arabs persecuted Palestine Jews.

⚡Washington and Tehran are close to reaching a comprehensive nuclear deal and it could be signed at the next meeting, CNN reported, citing sources familiar with the matter.

Bigsam99:
The current Yorubaland is contiguously dominated by Yorubas and no other ethnic group so your analogy doesn't hold water. It was not the Palestinians that expelled the ancient Hebrews. Meanwhile, not all the so called European Jews even have genetic link to the ancient Hebrews. There ancestors were Europeans who got converted to the Jewish ways and now they want to reap where they never sowed.

Your analogy applies more to a place like the USA. Why not invite all descendants ofbthe red Indians and divide the USA and name one part Indian America.

brother, pls stop trying to rewrite history, a lot of people here have tried to and it is not working.....

⚡️Ukraine refuses to negotiate with Russia on the territory of Belarus because "missiles were flying from there" — Zelensky

WritterNg:
⚡️Ukraine refuses to negotiate with Russia on the territory of Belarus because "missiles were flying from there" — Zelensky

Confused zelensky

sainttwist1:
brother, pls stop trying to rewrite history, a lot of people here have tried to and it is not working.....

I tire for that guy.. The same Islamic league who pressured the British to divide British controlled India into two, The Muslim League advocated and fought the British for a separate state for Muslims, fearing their marginalization in a Hindu-majority India.

It's OK for the Muslims to get a separate state, in an Hindu dominated India, but the Jews should live peacefully in a Arab dominated Palestine.

Bigsam99:
So why can't they just buy land and live in peace along side their neighbours the Arabs. But they had to take half of the whole land and when the Arabs rebelled against this injustice they are labelled as savages.

Gold Meir and many early Zionists lived in Palestine and carried Palestinian port. Why did they carve out a specific area and make it exclusive for only Jews?

Don't be a dunce if it was exclusively for only jews why did the Arabs tell the Palestinians Arabs that where living in newly formed israel to evacuate so they could chase the Jews into the sea?


Those who did not evacuate are the over 20% Arabs now that are citizens of the state of Israel.


When israel was formed the Arabs who lived in Israel were considered as Israeli and part of Israel should they desire it.

So what nonsense exclusivity are you talking about?

⚡Switzerland rejected the export of almost 100 Leopard 1 tanks belonging to state arms company RUAG to Ukraine.

Switzerland’s Federal Council said the export of 96 Leopard 1A5 tanks was "not possible under the law as it stands."