NewStats: 3,264,652 , 8,184,339 topics. Date: Wednesday, 11 June 2025 at 08:58 PM 6b1mg

psalmsjob:


Says who?.... He who forgets his history has no future. Bini empire lives on in present day Edo State.

Bini empire was in existence when there was never an Igbo empire they weren't a people to reckon with along side the Bini empire. The igbo were conquered group of people that were spread around at those days savaging. If not for the colonialism there wouldn't have been a group called Igbo existing today with the population they are beating chest on over people like Bini, Igala, Ebira, Tiv, Efik even Ijaw. The Igbos were not a people to reckon with in the days before the colonialism. There were like Mai Boila, like iron condemn gatherers, common thieves and bandits of those era. They couldn't form a nation-state because that's a venture too sophisticated for them to manage or actualise.

Empires are evil. Empire is not thing but the stealing of other people's lands through war

Christistruth02:


Go and read the History
It is public knowledge and Azikiwe didn't hide it

Do your homework yourself

any evidence?

gidgiddy:


Empires are evil. Empire is not thing but the stealing of other people's lands through war

Who gave those people whose land was taken through war those land to begin with? How did it become "their" land?

The world has always been a survival of the fittest in both biological and community survival and the strongest people create empires and dynasties just as adoptions come to be.

Bini empire controls all the territories of the south east all those Igbo settlements that are now states or LGA are either under direct rule of the empire or paying royalty and protection money if you know don't know you better go and read the history books.

psalmsjob:


Who gave those people whose land was taken through war those land to begin with? How did it become "their" land?

The world has always been a survival of the fittest in both biological and community survival and the strongest people create empires and dynasties just as adoptions come to be.

Bini empire controls all the territories of the south east all those Igbo settlements that are now states or LGA are either under direct rule of the empire or paying royalty and protection money if you know don't know you better go and read the history books.

This is 2025, not 1865. Empire is an evil thing, Bini empire was evil. Empire means at some point, some people left their land to go and take over the lands of others through violence and war. This is evil

Christistruth02:


Azikiwe insisted that the Yoruba speaking Kwara belonged to the North and mustn't
be part of the west and he was so adamant he completely rejected all reasonable arguments on the matter so considering that this your argument get k-leg

When did Zik become Lord Luggard?

gidgiddy:


This is 2025, not 1865. Empire is an evil thing, Bini empire was evil. Empire means at some point, some people left their land to go and take over the lands of others through violence and war. This is evil

Just as evil as in 2025 some people will claim they are of a certain tribe so that where they reside in another man's land automatically belongs to their tribe. Is that not same evil if not more evil in your eyes? If not then you don't know or understand what you are talking about or trying to talk about.

paramakina202:


When did Zik become Lord Luggard?

Please kindly park one side
Let those who understand the History Speak
so genuine people can learn

Kwara was added to the North in 1950s
when Azikiwe was head of NCNC

Christistruth02:


Please kindly park one side
Let those who understand the History Speak
so genuine people can learn

Kwara was added to the North in 1950s
when Azikiwe was head of NCNC

Mr history master, was Zik head of state in 50s?Tell us how it happened. That he was head of NCNC is not enough.

paramakina202:


Mr history master, was Zik head of state in 50s?Tell us how it happened. That he was head of NCNC is not enough.

Go and the British end of Empire documents for Nigeria and read

temitope27:
oba of Benin gave them those land, can't you understand simple statement

Oba also gave Yorubas Ife. Once we all agree with this statement, I will ask Igbanke to accept Bini overlordship.

Otherwise, if Oba or anyone for that matter, tries to tamper with Igbanke land, any such group will loose all their lands. This is a promise.

No one in Ika, Anioma or the larger Igboland will tolerate the stealing of Igbanke land.

Why are people talking what they don't know, was it not this same oba of Benin that suspended one of the king and about 3 high chief in Benin last year, why is this particular suspension paining some people. Igbanke had being a part of Edo state as far back as babangida regiem, and had shared the same traditional institution with Edo for many decade, they had never been something like this before, today it has happen, and some person's don't know what the matter is, they started talking forgetting that this same Igbanke till now is still part of Edo state and not Delta state. I don't know what the problem is neither have I read from here what problem is. I believe people should allow the institution to settle there own issues them selves, crying from now till tomorrow solve anything, accept if the institution decide.

Christistruth02:



Go and the British end of Empire documents for Nigeria and read

Rubbish!
You either post your proof or its just another Yoruba propaganda.

IGBOPROMISE1:


This pretty much sums up what’s at play! Notice how the same pro-Tinubu/APC characters that spend all day obsessing over anything to do with Ndigbo, are the same schmucks against an indigenous set of people asserting their Igbo identity!?

I will continue to warn Ndigbo in the south-east, and those indigenous to Edo, Rivers, Delta and Benue states, that you have to be wary of these people (they know themselves)! They will tolerate you and pretend to like you only to the extent that you don’t rock the Nigerian boat, deny your Igbo heritage, and cooperate in sustaining the hegemonic alliance they have with their northern partners!

You can be shortsighted, naive or even daft enough to answer Ifeanyi and speak Igbo, yet deny your Igbo heritage just to try and curry their favour and hope they throw a few crumbs your way! But when the chips are down, and they see you as a threat to their hegemonic control of Nigeria, they will come after you with a vengeance that will shock you, and by then you’ll find yourself all alone with no one to have your back! Hope you see what Emefiele is going through at the moment!? Assuming without conceding that he’s as kwarrupt as they claim he is, you think he’s more corrupt than the likes of Tinubu, his son, Ganduje and their ilk!?

Igbo Promise. Chai. see name. Very patriotic and divine name. Igbo promise to stay the course of greatness, igbo promise to be the best in this life and after life.

Igbo Promise, God bless you sir.
Ko na diri gi na ndi ulo gi, mma, ne bo wula okpa gi ruru. Ka Chineke gozie gi na ndi ulo gi ta na echi. Is more prayers i wish to convey, but I am still brushing up on my igbo linguistics, especially writing. In summary, may God continue to bless you, and continue to bless all igbo Patriots.


Igbos for the most part know that those ndi iro around them, are filled with envy, hate, propensity to oppress the igbos, etc. And like you rightly advised, Igbos will be aware of what you advised.


As for that scammer of Benin, wey one use igbo oppression shine, the igbo nation is saying no more to that. Igbankes, agbor, ika, or any other igbo clan, are not going on a conquest mission like these igbo haters. But, useless people don't want them to drink and drop cup.


May God continue to bless the great igbo tribe, wherever they find themselves.

paramakina202:


Rubbish!
You either post your proof or its just another Yoruba propaganda.

You better go and do your homework
All Truth is Proganda to you

Christistruth02:



You better go and do your homework
All Truth is Proganda to you

What does forming alliance with Awo got to do with what you said?
Provide your evidence that Zik created north and south Nigeria and place Kwarra people in northern Nigeria.

paramakina202:


What does forming alliance with Awo got to do with what you said?
Provide your evidence that Zik created north and south Nigeria and place Kwarra people in northern Nigeria.

Go and read it up
I told you where to find it already
And I don't care what you think
Azikiwe edt and helped he North to get Kwara

AguluLiar:


Our Mkpurumini blodas and land grabbing.

How did they grab lands? Did the force you at gun point to give up your land? Your statement is not the sensible at best.

AguluLiar:


When will our Mkpurumini blodas get tired of this attarche by force?

Ikwerres, Ibibio, Ogoni, Ijaw, Kalabari, Idoma, have all disowned our blodas in the past.

Bro grow up, this your statement is very childish.

Shattuck:
to be fair if the land the igbanke people occupy is the ancestral land of the Benin kingdom they he has a right over that territory traditionally, the oba does not have the power and has never made any attempt to suspend any esan king or auchi king you know why because those communities are indegenous to the state and separate even though the esan tribe migrated from the Benin kingdom but igbanke is not the same the land they occupy is a Benin land according to certain history they were slaves, if they chose to be igbos fine but they can't claim the territory as theirs or part of the igbo nation.

Oga Nigeria is no longer under the control of a traditional hegemony, even the Oba is still subject to the control of government and as such he has no right to control any community especially the igbankes.

ReubenE:

That is actually a peculiar case unlike the one reported from Edo. Ofoni people actually share two ancestry - Ijaw and Urhobo. They are children of Tarakiri just like some other Urhobo communities in Patani and Bomadi axis like Oduophori, Odorubu etc.
Ofoni people have strong ancestral link with Ijaws that's why you don't hear any problems there - Sen Lawrence, the deputy governor is even a member of the INC despite being Urhobo.

Even Ofoni is an Ijaw name. It is same way in Kiagbodo axis where it is an Ijaw community but you see many speaking Urhobo.

Back to the topic. Same way the Oba of Bini is interfering in matters of people that doesn't concern him with the Igbanke people, he tried to do same with the Ijaw kingdoms in Edo - Egbema kingdom that is divided into Delta and Edo, Furupagha, Okomu, Olodiama, Gbarain.

Thanks for the insight.

Good to read from a learned person who knows how to articulate his thoughts without insults.

Its a breath of fresh air here.

AguluLiar:


Our Mkpurumini blodas and attarche by force

If you want to be unfortunate, please be.

But do not bring it to my mention or attention here again.

Irony1:


Oga Nigeria is no longer under the control of a traditional hegemony, even the Oba is still subject to the control of government and as such he has no right to control any community especially the igbankes.

he does not have constitutional power, doesn't mean he doesn't have his constitutional territory and as a custodian of the Benin heritage, I am sure the obi of onitsha has an area he rules over or that his kingdom extends to, even though he does not have constitutional power, can I and my tribes people now relocate to onitsha in thousands and settle there and then create our own kingdom in onitsha and then rename onitsha and when the obi complains I then say because he doesn't have constitutional power, that shouldn't be an issue.

Shattuck:
to be fair if the land the igbanke people occupy is the ancestral land of the Benin kingdom they he has a right over that territory traditionally, the oba does not have the power and has never made any attempt to suspend any esan king or auchi king you know why because those communities are indegenous to the state and separate even though the esan tribe migrated from the Benin kingdom but igbanke is not the same the land they occupy is a Benin land according to certain history they were slaves, if they chose to be igbos fine but they can't claim the territory as theirs or part of the igbo nation.

Igbanke land is Igbanke ancestral land, it was never given to them by Bini.

temitope27:
oba of Benin gave them those land, can't you understand simple statement

No he didn't, stop talking nonsense.

viodemus:



In summary, igbos were at the short end of discrimination from the oba.

The oba of Benin cannot challenge the north or even yoruba. because they don't tolerate those types of disrespect in their indigenous land.

The oba used the opportunity that presented itself, because the igbos lost the war, so, he used that defeat, to step on the necks of the igbos, for too long, if you ask me. Igbos that bowed to him were lorded over, and in return he convinced the abokis not to worry that he got igbos in edo or former midwest, undercontrol. If the igbos try to live free, he threatened them with land seizure, death, banishment, or he will just set them up against the core north that were ruling and the sw.
Is more to it .....

This.

MrDoGood:


The best balanced response would be:

There’s no concrete historical evidence that the Oba of Benin systematically oppressed Igbos or acted as an agent of the North or Yoruba after the Biafran War. While Igbos did face discrimination in many parts of Nigeria post-war, including economic and political setbacks, the Oba’s role is largely traditional, not political. The narrative may reflect deep-rooted grievances, but it isn’t fully ed by documented facts.

My take before your diversion is... You can't come from a state and you're claiming you're not from that state. It's safe and better you relocate to the place you think you're from. The Israelites said they were not Egyptian and they moved. Pharoah didn't chase them. When Bendel was shared, even some Bini speaking lands were added to delta state. Have you heard them say they're not from Delta State?
Even in Kogi State, they have the Yoruba speaking people. Does that mean they will choose a Yoruba state and fill it in their state of origin?

Edo state is an artificial creation. Igbanke and the rest of Anioma were once in Bendel state.
That Igbanke was left in Edo state when Bendel was divided doesn't make them Bini subjects.
Stop the stupidity already.

Christistruth02:



Go and read it up
I told you where to find it already
And I don't care what you think
Azikiwe edt and helped he North to get Kwara

Was it Zik that helped Fulani to conquer Illori?
You should have used that energy you used in posting how Michael Okpara regrates over his advise to Zik to post your evidence here.History is science so if you allege something you must prove it truly happened.I wont waste my time searching for something that does not exist.

pazienza:


Edo state is an artificial creation. Igbanke and the rest of Anioma were once in Bendel state.
That Igbanke was left in Edo state when Bendel was divided doesn't make them Bini subjects.
Stop the stupidity already.

And the capital of Bendel state was?


Now I know I'm communicating with a kid.

Go to the palace and challenge the oba.

Enjoy your weekend

looseweight:
Due to cultural proximity between Edo and Igbo, it would have been cool if they resolve this amicably without going public.

It would have been cool if Bini people and their Oba were just comfortable ruling themselves and not extend their hegemony on Igbanke.
But since they can't do that, they left Ndiigbo with no option immediately Igbanke called for our help, we were always going to answer.
Brotherhood will always come first before politics.
Russians are in Ukraine over Ukraine maltreatment of Russians in Donbass region of Ukraine, that's how nationalism works.
If Igbanke kings maintained the normal folly of Ikas where they claim they are not Igbo, Ndiigbo would not even bother about whatever Bini is dishing to them, Bini has been dishing that to them since the war ended and we didn't care because they became happy slaves who felt their redemption will come by denying their Igbo identity, it obviously backfired and they are back to us now, and of course we will never run away from the cry of a brother irrespective of what happened in the past.

The Igbanke ordeal is a reminder to all Igbo speaking but Igbo denying groups outside SE.
Those who encourage you to deny your Igbo heritage don't mean well for you, they are only doing so because they want to isolate you from your much bigger brothers in SE, so that they can devour you silently with no help coming your way.
The way of a wise predator is to isolate a sheep from the herd to enable it to overpower and eat it without the herd coming for its help.
You will never be stronger standing alone as against standing with your brothers. Our ancestors say: IGWEBUIKE( Unity is strength) and our foes know it.

Notice that Binis will actively tell you that" Igbanke is not Igbo, Igbanke is not Ika, Igbanke is just Igbanke".
😃
If you challenge them over the last part of the above sentence, they will concede that Igbanke is Ika, but they will never accept that Igbanke is Igbo?
Why? They are playing the number games, the predator game, Igbanke is Igbanke is easy for them to deal with, Igbanke is just Ika is still a fair game since Ika is just 2LGA and Binis are like 3! But Igbanke is Igbo is a death sentence. They can't live with that, it destroys their end game, so they will never concede that and they will fight hard to avoid that.
I can't blame the Binis, they are playing their predator game well, but does the preys ( Igbo speaking groups outside SE) even know there is a game that is on?

Bini moves is a typical predatory isolation move, other minorities in SS hoping to "colombi" confused Igbo groups in SS are using same template.
The target is always isolation of the sheep from the herd.

As long as Igbanke kings maintain that they are Igbo, and don't revert back to "We are just Ika" or "we are just Igbanke", the Oba of Bini and infact the entire Bini people will be scared to do anything against them, because of the overwhelming population of Igbos in SE he will be coming up against.

IGWEBUIKE!

MrDoGood:


And the capital of Bendel state was?


Now I know I'm communicating with a kid.

Go to the palace and challenge the oba.

Enjoy your weekend

So because the capital of Nigeria is in Gwariland, it means all of us are now subjects to King of Gwari?
Were you dropped on the head as a baby?

paramakina202:


Was it Zik that helped Fulani to conquer Illori?
You should have used that energy you used in posting how Michael Okpara regrates over his advise to Zik to post your evidence here.History is science so if you allege something you must prove it truly happened.I wont waste my time searching for something that does not exist.

You don't even know that the Yoruba of Ilorin had reconquered it before the British arrived and that it was Yoruba Balogun Alanamu who was the Ruler of Ilorin after the Emir had been defeated and deposed.

You don't know the History it it


Azikiwe played a major role in making sure Kwara was carved into the North

pazienza:


So because the capital of Nigeria is in Gwariland, it means all of us are now subjects to King of Gwari?
Were you dropped on the head as a baby?

I don't need to respond to you anymore because it's a waste of time. You can conclude whatever you like, it has no effect or impact. Enjoy your rant.