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"Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War (32670 Views)

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favor914: 10:21pm On Feb 28
franchasng:
For your information, Putin's madness didn't just start in 2022 that he invaded Ukraine's mainland.


Putin first invaded and annexed Crimea in 2014 unprovoked. Then Ukraine wasn't talking about ing NATO, Zelensky wasn't the President. It was due to Putin's constant bullying of Ukraine that made Zelensky resolve to take Ukraine to NATO as a way of safeguarding Ukraine from Putin's future invasion madness.



You guys are being fed the wrong information just because you just want to form Russian lover and American hater.


Go back and study history of Putin and Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Its beyond ing NATO, something made Ukraine desire to NATO
Go back & read the agreement between Gobachev & Reagan to end the Cold War, you re talking of Crimea issue that is just 10 years old?

NATO expansionist agenda is solely responsible for this war, Ukraine president the biggest Mumu, he just showed his stupidity for the whole world to view today @ the white house, he should go back to his comedy on showtime.

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fxexperts: 10:27pm On Feb 28
favor914:
The nuclear weapons belonged to Russia o.
That must be a joke. let say Nigeria divide tomorrow and the Niger delta decide to secede are you trying to say that all the oil well will belong to Nigeria. lets say some other part like the Biafra folks decide to claim that the owns Nigeria, or the North will lay claim to the oil wells. The nuclear war head belongs to the soviet union a union Ukraine was a part of, tax payers money was used to manufacture those nuclear war heads so it belongs to Ukraine as much as it belongs to Russia too.
Nicoddemus(m): 10:28pm On Feb 28
Akalia:
Zelensky should shove his ego up his ass and cut a deal with the US in order to end the war.

US has seen that Russia is a formidable force economically and militarily after testing Russia's strength using Zelensky as a proxy.

US now knows that no amount of military aid to Ukraine can throw Russia off balance because Ukraine isn't just built tough enough to face Russia ordinarily.
God bless mother Russia. With love from Nigeria for Russia.
Stupidity at the highest order
favor914: 10:29pm On Feb 28
fxexperts:
That must be a joke. let say Nigeria divide tomorrow and the Niger delta decide to secede are you trying to say that all the oil well will belong to Nigeria. lets say some other part like the Biafra folks decide to claim that the owns Nigeria, or the North will lay claim to the oil wells. The nuclear war head belongs to the soviet union a union Ukraine was a part of, tax payers money was used to manufacture those nuclear war heads so it belongs to Ukraine as much as it belongs to Russia too.
If it was Ukraine’s own, why is it not in their possession today?

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Great0ne1: 10:30pm On Feb 28
RealLordZeus:
This is very shameful

I feel like crying for President Zelensky..

This situation will make any country review their military alliance with the US.

Coz lets say you make a deal with a cool headed president and someone like President Trump comes in and rubbish everything.


Political stability is part of what makes a country a developed one
What exactly do you really want trump to do ? Give zelensky more long range weapons to strike deep into Russia, with the help of usa soldiers ? Do you know the consequences of direct conflict between usa and Russia? You guys should be very thankful that someone like
Trump is the president of usa

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favor914: 10:31pm On Feb 28
Nicoddemus:

Stupidity at the highest order
Yes o, Zelenskyy na confirmed.

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Great0ne1: 10:34pm On Feb 28
EnterpriseMan:
Ukraine should be wipe off the map. All it's citizens have already found homes in other countries. They don't have the resources and man power to fight any war. Without the aid and threat of USA, Russia would have gone 100% against Ukraine long ago and wiped them off the face of the earth. They should take whatever Trump is giving them and crawl back into the hole they came from.
The clown was openly campaigning for Kamala Harris grin grin grin he forgot Trump shows no mercy to his enemies
Trump was actually nice. He was trying to make him see the reality of things. Usa cannot go to war with Russia. It is way toooooo risky

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hassinho707(m): 10:35pm On Feb 28
God1000:
Such balderdash and disgraceful behavior from Donald trump and JD Vance

Hold your ground Mr zelensky, He’s a con artist and a crook.

Don't sign a deal giving your minerals away, just Walk away instead

JD Vance is a bigger idiot than I initially thought
Donald Trump is a criminal.

Towards the end, he said "we can empower you to be a tough guy, I don't think you can become a tough guy without the united states"

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favor914: 10:36pm On Feb 28
Great0ne1:

Trump was actually nice. He was trying to make him see the reality of things. Usa cannot go to war with Russia. It is way toooooo risky
Damage Control, Trump knows that Ukraine cannot pay back the money.
Great0ne1: 10:38pm On Feb 28
justwise:
Zelensky has done today what no head of state has done in white house...refused to be bulled by those two buffoons.

JD vance and Trump are two shameless bullies
Una dey craze for this country ooh.
So you actually want Trump to send us soldiers to fight Russia in Ukraine? Are you aware that such action will gives Russia every justificatfion to strike us cities ? Do you want to start a world war ? What kind of humans beings do we even have here ?

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favor914: 10:39pm On Feb 28
hassinho707:
Donald Trump is a criminal.

Towards the end, he said "we can empower you to be a tough, I don't think you can become a tough guy without the united states"
The people that deceived the idiot to go & fight his uncle, are no longer in power, from The European nations The UK, , Italy etc, Emmanuel Macron is the only survivor.

Yankee Biden done fall.

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Empresa: 10:42pm On Feb 28
Zelensky needs to understand that peace is much better than seeing people dieing.

If US pulls out, he will be dead, because Putin will go for his head and take over the entire Ukraine

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Speeding1: 10:44pm On Feb 28
The war has to end. Someone must concede defeat and it has to be Ukraine. To me both sides have lost in this war, millions are gone from both countries, Sweden and Finland today are NATO courtesy of this war which is a disadvantage to Russia.
I don't blame Trump's stand at the moment because even Joe Biden clearly stated that American soldiers will not be deployed in Ukraine. How then is Ukraine going to win this war? If the US decides to go all out, the man Putin is a mad dog, we will experience a www3. Is that what the world wants right now? So someone has to take losses and let's close this chapter and learn never to repeat the mistake again
Nicoddemus(m): 10:46pm On Feb 28
favor914:
Yes o, Zelenskyy na confirmed.
Sharrap there. I didn't say zelenskyy is stupid this idiot
favor914: 10:49pm On Feb 28
Nicoddemus:

Sharrap there. I didn't say zelenskyy is stupid this idiot
Zelensky is an oblivious idiot like Mumu Fubara of Rivers State.

U can kiss the bride.

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pansophist(m): 10:55pm On Feb 28
justwise:


My respect for Zelensky has gone on top of the roof, he is a real man. JD Vance is a lapdog

A lapdog for wanting peace? shocked
justwise(m): 10:56pm On Feb 28
Great0ne1:

Una dey craze for this country ooh.
So you actually want Trump to send us soldiers to fight Russia in Ukraine? Are you aware that such action will gives Russia every justificatfion to strike us cities ? Do you want to start a world war ? What kind of humans beings do we even have here ?

Where did you get that from? Are you struggling to read or you need help understanding what you read? Tell me where i mentioned about American Soldiers going to Ukraine to fight in the post you quoted
Nicoddemus(m): 10:59pm On Feb 28
favor914:
Zelensky is an oblivious idiot like Mumu Fubara of Rivers State.

U can kiss the bride.

May life treat you the way trump and Putin is treating Ukraine

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justwise(m): 11:02pm On Feb 28
pansophist:


A lapdog for wanting peace? shocked

...no for begging for thank you for his dad Trump
favor914: 11:03pm On Feb 28
Nicoddemus:


May life treat you the way trump and Putin is treating Ukraine
Make dey carry give me $350 billion I accept.

How much is your country Nigeria’s external debt, yet in 3 years Zelenskyy the comedian done obtain over $350 billion from Uncle Sam?

On top of a war he has no chance of winning.

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pansophist(m): 11:13pm On Feb 28
justwise:


My respect for Zelensky has gone on top of the roof, he is a real man. JD Vance is a lapdog

Respect Zelensky that is against peace? That signed a decree never to negotiate with Putin, a stronger neighbour?

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favor914: 11:16pm On Feb 28
pansophist:


Respect Zelensky that is against peace? That signed a decree never to negotiate with Putin, a stronger neighbour?
Ukraine done enter one chance, bus driver Biden done retire, conductor Zelenskyy has to find a way to reach Ojuelegba.

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pansophist(m): 11:19pm On Feb 28
favor914:
Ukraine done enter one chance, bus driver Biden done retire, conductor Zelenskyy has to find a way to reach Ojuelegba.

grin grin

If na Ojuelegba, e for better.

Zelensky need to make sure he will not be prosecuted after the war, and will probably claim asylum in Europe.

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Moveittothem: 11:23pm On Feb 28
God1000:
Such balderdash and disgraceful behavior from Donald trump and JD Vance

Hold your ground Mr zelensky, He’s a con artist and a crook.

Don't sign a deal giving your minerals away, just Walk away instead

JD Vance is a bigger idiot than I initially thought

Walk away and fight the war with what exactly, have you forgotten USA is the sole financier of Ukraine on the War?

If EU, which I doubt, doesn't stand up for Ukraine, this war won't last another 3 months.

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Illusioneffect(m): 11:32pm On Feb 28
God1000:
Such balderdash and disgraceful behavior from Donald trump and JD Vance

Hold your ground Mr zelensky, He’s a con artist and a crook.

Don't sign a deal giving your minerals away, just Walk away instead

JD Vance is a bigger idiot than I initially thought
Yeah it's better to keep your minerals while your youth population dies off!
Illusioneffect(m): 11:33pm On Feb 28
Goke7:


Jd Vance was too disrespectful there even Trump was still diplomatic until Vance added fire
This shows you just watched a 2 minute clip
I watched the entire press conference with Zelensky. There was 40 minutes of discussion up to the argument. Most people saw at most the last ten minutes. The whole video gives the proper context.

When I first watched the argument without the proper context, I thought it was possible that Trump and Vance ambushed Zelensky or were even trying to humiliate him. That's not what happened.

You had 40 minutes of calm conversation. Vance made a point that didn't attack Zelensky and wasn't even addressed to him, and Zelensky clearly started the argument.

In the first 40 minutes, Zelensky kept trying to go beyond what was negotiated in the deal. When Trump was asked a question, it was always "we'll see." Zelensky made blanket assertions that there would be no negotiating with Putin, and that Russia would pay for the war. When Trump said that it was a tragedy that people on both sides were dying, Zelensky interjected that the Russians were the invaders.

For his part, Trump made clear that the US would continue delivering military aid. All Zelensky had to do was remain calm for a few more minutes and they would've signed a deal.

The argument started when Trump pointed out that it would be hard to make a deal if you talk about Putin the way Zelensky does. Vance interjects to make the reasonable point that Biden called Putin names and that didn't get us anywhere.

The Zelensky/Trump dynamic was calm and stable. It was when Vance spoke that Zelensky started to interrogate him. Throughout the press conference to that point, everyone was making their arguments directly to the audience. Zelensky decided to challenge Vance and ask him hostile questions. He went back to his point that Putin never sticks to ceasefires, once again implying that negotiations are pointless. Why on earth would you do this? Then came the fight we all saw.

Zelensky was minutes away from being home free, and he would have had the deal and new commitments from the Trump istration. The point Vance made was directed against Biden and the media, taking them to task for speaking in moralistic . This offended Zelensky, and that began the argument.

I've been a fan of Zelensky up to this point, but this showed so much incompetence, if not emotional instability, that I don't see how he recovers from this. The relationship with the istration is broken. Ukraine should probably go with new leadership at this point.

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pansophist(m): 11:40pm On Feb 28
Ekaka14:

Exactly, imagine traveling all the way to Saudi Arabia to engage Russia on Ukraine without any representation from Ukraine ....5jen Orange 🍊 head Trump started asking for Elections in Ukraine 🇺🇦 😳
These crop of American cowboys in the WH no nothing about diplomacy...they openly have been all over the news trying hard to discredit Zalensky and calling him ",ungrateful" 😒 to his face...and annoyingly none of these people have seen action in any war all their lives until now.....shocking the Way Trump is heading and herding his mob team 🙄

When EU leaders, Ukraine and a bunch of many countries and organisation head to Switzerland for peace summit while excluding Russia, was that diplomacy?

Or what is good for Adanma is not good for Adamu? grin

Besides, the Saudi Arabia meeting are just preparations and preliminary consultations for the real meeting between Ukraine and Russia. Ukraine is in the US today for discussion with the US.

But at the end, whether anyone likes it or not, Ukraine lost. Their most richest part of the country is gone, millions dead or injured, more millions have fled, and the rest hate Zelensky with ion.

Ukraine will serves an example to other puppets, which sadly, some people are born to be.
Originalsly: 11:40pm On Feb 28
ScamDemicEra:


...... deep state, CIA-MOSSAD, USAID who maneuvered him into Ukrainian presidency can also remove him and finish him in a flash !!

Zelensky does not seem to know Obama-Biden woke money laundering crowd are all gone and a new devil is in the white house !!

He better sign a deal, get off the stage and enjoy his cut of the money laundering loot in peace !!!



Exactly. When he gets back home his eyes will clear. Resignation loading.... a good time to hand over the rubble.

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justwise(m): 11:42pm On Feb 28
pansophist:


Respect Zelensky that is against peace? That signed a decree never to negotiate with Putin, a stronger neighbour?

Zelensky Is against peace? And Putin has been engaging in peace mission in Ukraine?
pansophist(m): 11:47pm On Feb 28
erniok:


I dont you dont get the full picture. Hitler was able to arm strong Europe because no one initially stood up to him even when he invaded poland.

Zelensky is just asking for a guarantee that Putin won't break the ceasefire like he did in 2014 and trump keeps dancing around that question.

When putin gets away with this one, another one is loading.

You have dranked to stupour western propaganda.

Ever heard of Minsk agreement? If Zelensky truly wants security guarantee, the minsk agreement was the best bet. But Zelensky didnt missed a chance to fork up.

Even German Chancellor Merkel itted that the Minsk agreement was just to buy time to Ukraine can fight Russia. so what are you talking about?

I know we like to think of this fight like the one of an underdog and a giant, David and Goliath, or a helpless victim and an aggressor, but in reality, the fight is the one of a mad dog with HIV coming for a Tiger than lives across the stream.

If Ukraine didnt outrightly cancelled Russian language as an official language despite having millions of native Russian citizens, kill Million of Russians in Donbass, and want to a hostile military organisation, there would have been peace.

Ukraine is the aggressor, a stupid one at that.

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