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JESHAL007:
Whatever you do with your woman, ensure you always put yourself first and you are above her. Never raise her to your level or above it, and never be in a situation where you depend on her financially. If a woman wants to grow, let her hustle it on her own. If possible, don't take her abroad. Her behaviour (due to the Nigerian environment, leverage, and your masculine attitude here) won't necessarily be the same in the western environment. The Western world corrupts and embolden women with impunity. If things are working well for you here, leave her here and go pursue your dreams. As you get better, your family will benefit from it.

If you don't take your woman abroad with you, she will be fücƙed by other men as you are not around to monitor her.
You will be sending her money that she will be flexing with other men

Uptheante:

If you don't take your woman abroad with you, she will be fücƙed by other men as you are not around to monitor her.
You will be sending her money that she will be flexing with other men

Chai you have a valid point
It is a loose loose situation
Go abroad to a none gynocentric country best solution like middle East

My brethren if we can be disciplined and control our sexual urges we have won

Phant0mStranger:



This thread will die a natural death if it is filled with people like you..



Where were you when this thread was averaging 5 post per week?
I haven't seen you post any redpill nugget or bring any tips that will be of help to the community. Nobody is forcing you to read his post, if you can't contribute then fück off



JESHAL007 ride on bro 💪

I actually dislike teachings that is showing us men how to value ourselves and know our worth. A fruitful union and a lasting marriage is one where the man don’t know his worth and learn to take rubbish and disrespect from his woman

JESHAL007:



Chai you have a valid point
It is a loose loose situation
Go abroad to a none gynocentric country best solution like middle East

Then you should at least drop a word of advice for men who travel abroad & leave their wives behind.
I'm sure many men don't realize that their wives can cheat even when they are together, & can even do worse when the husband is not around to monitor them.
There are married women who a fücƙing around while their husbands are toiling day & night abroad & sending money to them.
There are women who are carrying out abortions while their husbands are abroad & have no idea what is going on.
I really pity men, if you carry your Nigerian wife with you abroad, she may likely grow wings, turn against you, divorce you or have you deported. If you decide to leave her behind in Nigeria, she will explore the freedom & fücƙ different men in your absence.
It's like being between the devil & the deep blue sea

pansophist:
You have to leave your girl and your friend. Under no circumstances and begging should you accept them back. 

If you forgive a woman for cheating on you, you’ve proven to her that you’re a weak man, and you’ll be punished for it, only a matter of time. 

Also, you won’t feel like a man. Your pride, ego, masculinity will feel shattered, like a tamed lion, where a dirty pig can come and shit on, and you will pay fully (bride price) for it. You’re defeated. 

Deep in her psyche, she will feel like she is the best you can do, hence, you can’t act like a man and kick her out, which will embolden her. She will be tempted to push the goal post further, to see your breaking point. 

Your friend will not respect you, and every body that hear about it won’t rate you. You won’t even rate yourself. 

If you can’t reach her for hours (maybe because her battery is low), something in you will always suspect she has gone to cheat. 
Believing her on anything without verification will be difficult because the trust is gone. 

She will be tempted to overdo and overprove herself, because she knows the dilemma you’re in. You don’t trust her, and she won’t trust you either. 

With every child she begat, you’ll always wonder if it’s yours and if you should do DNA, especially if you think the child doesn’t look and act like you. 

With every small argument, you’ll say things that you don’t have to say, because you’re operating from a place of incurable foundational wound. 

The  persistence of the relationship will be an evidence that you are not man enough to call it off, and negotiate a better deal for yourself. You’ll both low key-hate each other for settling with each other.

The door of hell has being open and it must consume one person. If you stay in the relationship, then you’ve paid for her sins and it will consume you. If you let her go, she will pay for her sins and it will consume her. 

In reality, you’ve lost nothing if you let her go. The pain and emotional trauma you’ll feel after her departure is like recovering from an addiction. With time, you’ll feel better than before. 

Right now you’re fighting a one-front battle, which is to let her go. If you stay in the relationship, it becomes a two-front war, which is to forgive her, forgive yourself, and tolerate all the assault that comes with negotiating a bad deal for yourself. 

If she happens to cheat again (which is high likely), you will never forgive yourself because you saw it coming and decided that you deserve the worse. Hopefully it doesn’t lead to depression. 

Marriage is sweet, but hell if done wrongly. Hopefully you won’t find peace at a bar, than in your own home. 

THIS UppaZakum's POST is what I am responding to, bit by bit.

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As promised, I will now share my perspective. Also, for the sake of others that will hope to learn, I will delve into much details.

Great! Glad to see you are devoted to improving yourself and you have crafted a solid plan to undertake such improvement. Nothing wrong here.

Well, your wife has seen an unmissable opportunity to achieve financial independence for herself in a more successful, liberal society that gives women insane leverage in marriage... or more generally, the intersexual dynamic.

This opportunity deeply aligns with her personal interests, and as a woman, she will put her interests and feelings without regard to the sacrifices and costs incurred by her man. Afterall, in a woman's eyes, a man is simply a vehicle to her destination/objective in her survival script. You must have noticed this in the way she always remained unmindful of your logical reservations and possible downsides you will face if you strung her along. This is not a mistake; your wife knows what she is doing.

If she has calculated that the vehicle is no longer needed, it will be brutally discarded, resented and/or snubbed, regardless of the "damages" and sacrifices the vehicle endured (willingly or unwillingly) to get her to her destination/objective. You become in her eyes a deadweight that slows her down. This happens when you are no longer needed; when you have landed beneath her; or when you financially depend on her.

You must take note of the last two paragraphs: do not let the playfulness, respect, sex, show of kindness and present profession of love from your wife beguile you into disbelieving them. Never get lost in the sauce. If you dismiss the red pill here and you succumb to the situations I warned you against after taking your wife abroad, you will discover real quick that you never really knew your wife. Also, just to add, the fact that some ladies spent their whole lives in Nigeria doesn't mean they are not aware of how domestic, marital and child laws work over there.

Whatever you do with your woman, ensure you always put yourself first and you are above her. Never raise her to your level or above it, and never be in a situation where you depend on her financially. If a woman wants to grow, let her hustle it on her own. If possible, don't take her abroad. Her behaviour (due to the Nigerian environment, leverage, and your masculine attitude here) won't necessarily be the same in the western environment. The Western world corrupts and embolden women with impunity. If things are working well for you here, leave her here and go pursue your dreams. As you get better, your family will benefit from it.


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Martinez39s:
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@UppaZakum

Wise of you to realise where you bleeped up. A man must never ever let a woman have full access to how much he earns, has, or the flow of his money. Of course, they will try to find, but never let them... e get why. If they don't like it, they either hold their peace, or move on to a new husband that will show them his financial records. It is that simple.

By the way, I am curious as to the life you've led and, if any, previous marital dynamics in which you found it okay to let her in on your finances. Where you always a red pill guy during your marriage? Or did you just slip up in the moment due to ignorance or temporary weakness?

Well, redpillers know that you don't take what comes out of a woman's mouth seriously. Of course, she will give her best on this plan of hers and say anything to convince you to her plan, even making promises she knows she won't keep. This is the feelings/emotions of the moment; even if she thinks she will keep to her promise, situation will expose her female nature and she will follow suit without remorse. All that really matters to her is her objective. It is left for you as a red pill guy to detect this and remain steadfast in not yielding to feminine wiles.

As for her plan to you when she is stable and you need her help, I need not say much. You will see a different side of your wife if you find yourself in this situation, and you will certainly not like it. You will most likely not believe what you are seeing. Worse is if she happens to meet other well-to-do men that she feels are above her new level and better than her dependent husband.

Very good.


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Martinez39s:
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@UppaZakum
A nice plan. Just don't mind her; forge ahead with your plan instead. Let her sort herself out. If possible, don't take her abroad. Put yourself first and keep yourself safe.

Well, you know what's up and the right route to take, but for some reason something is holding you back. Could it be that you don't want to be inadvertently mean and cruel to who you perceive to be a good woman? Well, if that's the case, find calm in the fact that it is perfectly normal for red pill execution to demand some level of coldness and indifference from time to time to prevent you from getting fleeced, played and ensure positive/desired female response. Besides, I will always repeat that you don't take your wife to stay with you permanently in a western society.


Glad you are not easily carried away. You might think you know your woman, until certain situations reveal a beast and personality you never knew of.

Ask men if the version of their wives they saw in the divorce court, western environment (especially when the migration is permanent), or breadwinning position are the versions they experienced during dating (before marriage) or when they were breadwinners. Even western men who marry western women see a different version of their wives when situation changes... you grab? Even western divorce attorneys and divorced men have a saying: "you never know your wife until you meet her in court."

My point is, instead of thinking you know your wife and banking on that, just follow the red pill which never fails. Finally, I must repeat:
(1) Always put yourself first,
(2) Never put yourself in a situation where you depend on a woman's money,
(3) Ensure that you are always above and bigger than your woman. Never help elevate your woman's level to yours or above yours. If a women must grow, let it be without your help.
(4) To add, never put your safety, well-being, and financial situation at risk because you want to accommodate the interests of a woman. The games women can play are too inconsiderate and unforgiving for men who take such risks or give too much benefit of doubt.

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Martinez39s:
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@UppaZakum

Your fears are valid, and it is a very serious issue that may not seem so at the moment.

Smart! Never give up leverage. Smart men who are red-pill aware and are deep in the game know that leverage is invaluable in long-term relationships. A man, however great his red-pill awareness, cannot operate effectively and unchallenged as the head and authoritative figure without leverage. Also, having leverage isn't just enough, a man must be aware of his leverage and wield it unapologetically to his benefit.

Leverage is important, it can even determine and regulate female behaviour and attitude in the relationship if it is used wisely. Change leverage and see a different version/attitude of your wife.

Men who think leverage isn't important or that much of a big deal —or that the issue of leverage is simply petty secondary school manipulation tactics— are just ignorant and know nothing. Never give up leverage by whatever means.


Hmmmm. You have carefully thought too deep strategically. Nevertheless, I would always advice a man never to move with his spouse abroad. If possible, go alone and improve yourself abroad; send money back home regularly; and come back after your are done. If you decide to act differently, ensure that if sh!t goes to fan, you don't lose all you have worked for, you are not financially blighted, and you can move your kids with you back to Nigeria. Whatever you decision you make, ensure you can easily endure and move on if the worse happens.

Over there, there are many eventualities that can befall you in forms of opportunities for your wife to change, scheme and misbehave. I don’t need to explicate, do I?


E N D.

women know that what they want from men (money) they can't survive without, but what men want from women (sex) men can survive without. Women know that what women want from men (money) women can't masturbate and get, but what men want from women (sex) men can masturbate and get. Because what women want from men is a real thing, but what men want from women is simply a feeling. You can create a feeling from nothing but you can't create a real thing from nothing.

And the day men fully realize this is the day the Pussy Cartel will cease to exist.


But as long as men continue to walk in ignorance women are the only winners in this Game, because women get paid while men simply get laid. Women walk away with money, men walk away with mere memories.

Even your wives and girlfriends masturbate to the memories of the sexual ion and intense marathon fvcks they had with their ex-boyfriends even as they are in commited relationships with you their husband and boyfriend

Also, she would always cherish the memory of the man that disvirgined her

If she has calculated that the vehicle is no longer needed, it will be brutally discarded, resented and/or snubbed, regardless of the "damages" and sacrifices the vehicle endured (willingly or unwillingly) to get her to her destination/objective. You become in her eyes a deadweight that slows her down. This happens when you are no longer needed; when you have landed beneath her; or when you financially depend on her.

You must take note of the last two paragraphs: do not let the playfulness, respect, sex, show of kindness and present profession of love from your wife beguile you into disbelieving them. Never get lost in the sauce. If you dismiss the red pill here and you succumb to the situations I warned you against after taking your wife abroad, you will discover real quick that you never really knew your wife. Also, just to add, the fact that some ladies spent their whole lives in Nigeria doesn't mean they are not aware of how domestic, marital and child laws work over there.

Do not let the playfulness, respect, sex, show of kindness and present profession of love from women beguile you into forgetting female nature. Never get lost in the sauce, always be on guard that is why you are redpilled and different from most of the ignorant bluepilled mofos in the world, you know women inside out with redpill awareness

we are in modern times
Be data driven, follow logic, definitely you would be emotional in your dealing with women it's inevitable that is how you are wired but the redpill will aid you especially in times your emotions overwhelm your empirical driven redpill insights

Modern times equals new order
Traditional times equals old order

JESHAL007:
we are in modern times
Be data driven, follow logic, definitely you would be emotional in your dealing with women it's inevitable that is how you are wired but the redpill will aid you especially in times your emotions overwhelm your empirical driven redpill insights

Modern times equals new order
Traditional times equals old order

Bro stop posting. You talk a lot of nonsense. Go out and live life

Rizzputin:


Bro stop posting. You talk a lot of nonsense. Go out and live life

Shût dafuq UP and crawl away into a deep dark hole, without your toothbrush.

luminouz:


Shût dafuq UP and crawl away into a deep dark hole, without your toothbrush.

him. You guys get a life. You clearly have no lives

JESHAL007:
My brethren if we can be disciplined and control our sexual urges we have won

Since this is how we win, how about we focus on this?

In realistic , how do we control our sexual urges?

Kipaji:
From Esther Vilar's The Polygamous Sex. Along with masculinity, authenticity and the capacity of walking away, sexual control is one of the pillars you must rely on when dealing with women.

Even Esther Vilar recognized how much men controlling their sex drive would change the game. Now, it's all about how to realistically and consistently do it.

Kipaji:

ubunja post=113910941:
you do have a point, the thread may not be as welcome. Which is all the reason why the thread is needed.
Plus this very thread we're on needs to be backedup somewhere in case it gets deleted. Tech gurus need to make a plan.if I could I would do something to preserve this thread but this web stuff is alien to me.

Yes, please. This thread must be archived or saved somehow.

This is partly why I made compilations of the gems dropped by two of the most respected contributors here, namely ubunja and pansophist.

They are freely accessible and don't require to sign up to anything.

You can check them out here:
https://nairaland.macsoftware.info/8343531/pansophists-wisdom-booklet

Women or not, men must provide, either for their family or themselves. It is because of this eternal burden to provide that makes them dwell less in the emotional domain. That emotional plane is for women because nobody expects much from them.

Men must either provide or create or else, be considered a nuisance. A bigger nuisance if he opts out of the game because he will first be disrespected and later die of hunger.

Kipaji:


Since this is how we win, how about we focus on this?

In realistic , how do we control our sexual urges?

Temptations are too strong
Sexual urge is like hunger
But the good news is that it comes in waves unless we directly go looking for it via porn, social media, it comes you relax, it will leave

JESHAL007:
women know that what they want from men (money) they can't survive without, but what men want from women (sex) men can survive without. Women know that what women want from men (money) women can't masturbate and get, but what men want from women (sex) men can masturbate and get. Because what women want from men is a real thing, but what men want from women is simply a feeling. You can create a feeling from nothing but you can't create a real thing from nothing.

And the day men fully realize this is the day the Pussy Cartel will cease to exist.


But as long as men continue to walk in ignorance women are the only winners in this Game, because women get paid while men simply get laid. Women walk away with money, men walk away with mere memories.

I love the analogy.

luminouz:


Shût dafuq UP and crawl away into a deep dark hole, without your toothbrush.

Lumi , you funny sha

Smartb0y:

Lumi , you funny sha

😉

Rizzputin:


Bro stop posting. You talk a lot of nonsense. Go out and live life

The thread has gone stale.
It's now simply the rehashing of past posts,discussions & issues nothing more.
My layman's advise to any & everyone is to read the first 500 pages & be gone

CaveAdullam:
Nice one from pansophist.

A little add: women by default are machiavellians, they know when, where, and how to mimic to any situation regardless of whether it's good or bad. Women, especially those who are approaching the wall, hit the wall or past the wall will play the chameleon game effectively, pretending to your vetting scrutinization. Many of them at their epiphany phase or wall phase, will then discover a need for a religious salvation, and begin to act as wise sages. And any man that approaches them in their religious salvation phase will definitely fall for their whims, with little or no cognizance of their past.

We all have a moment of change, but women change not for the sake of change itself, it is a subtle act of game and manipulation; an attempt to eat their cake during the h0e/party phase, and desire it back during the epiphany/salvation phase. What propel this change is because of a decline in beauty, attention, age, fertility and to quickly latch onto a man for marriage.

Therefore, as a man, entering into a long term relationship or marriage, the vetting process for women should be between the ages of 18-25, using the "virgin/hymen" requirement as a prerequisite. If a woman is a virgin, there is a very high probability of ing other tests. In addition to the vetting process: stir all forms of emotions in her; anger, pain, joy, gladness, anxiety etc. This is to determine her balance and extremes, and how to counter it when you eventually commit to her.

You don't need to like this, a man that has upheave himself to a king standard will never find problem searching and finally engaged himself to a virgin with a high dose of femininity. Other lower men can settle for repentant wh0res who wear a facade of intellect, logic, good behaviour, good character etc.

So, as a man, become high quality in every areas of your life, and only commit to a high quality woman. Settling for less is an unbalanced equation and a waste of your resources. Take a detailed analysis of her past, her sexual escapades, her social behaviour, ideologies and belief system.

Do not commit to a woman in her epiphany phase, because it is foolish to buy the cow when the milk is free. If she freely gave the milk in the past, there's no need paying for it in the present. Do not be deceived by the appearance of the cow, it is a facade.

Thanks.

God bless.

IHate9jerianss:

The thread has gone stale.
It's now simply the rehashing of past posts,discussions & issues nothing more.
My layman's advise to any & everyone is to read the first 500 pages & be gone

K

Advice on someone who doesn't like approaching but wants sex. A lot of sex.

IHate9jerianss:

The thread has gone stale.
It's now simply the rehashing of past posts,discussions & issues nothing more.
My layman's advise to any & everyone is to read the first 500 pages & be gone

I agree. It's just boring nonsense none of them have ever tried or will ever try.

And it got even more stale because none of them are trying out things they read so new epiphanies. Just boys jerking off how women are evil to their pathetic selves