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IjeBos:


Again you got caught making shit up and have now moved to another angle. Why don't you post anything to back up what you posted, you can't.

You must have missed the "largely" part. There have some that have wielded more power. Cheney was one of course as he picked himself. But noone expects the VP to accomplish much as they just fulfill the policies of the President.

Again, you are being disingenuous.

HW was consequential, Cheney was consequential, Pence was consequential. Kamala was not. She leads the pack of those inconsequential VeePees. You know why?

Her selection process ensured that. She was chosen because of her gender alone. Of all the Democratic contestants in 2020, She was the worst by a distance. So its not surprising that she failed and was inconsequential.

LordAdam16:


Kamala had the worst VP approval rating in history before she became the nominee.

Why did they think she had such an atrocious job performance review.
Pundits were openly saying she was dragging Biden down and should be replaced.

Kamala has been a disaster.
Whether it's because she was the last one in the room for the fatal Afghan debacle and so walked side-by-side with Biden and owns the istration's failures.
Or because as she now wants to insinuate, she essentially sat idly by while Americans were pummeled by sky-high inflation, horrible housing and insurance costs, a wide-open border and outrageous influx of illegal migrants, and new wars raged in Europe and the ME.

Her actions and inactions contributed to the disastrous situation that the plurality of Americans recognize and want to change.
And when she had the opportunity to give an of her stewardship (or lack thereof), she opted to disrespect the American population by deliberately punting questions and offering meaningless platitudes. She refused to offer an apology for her role in putting Americans through a horrible economic malaise and failed to elucidate her plans to restore the low-inflation, low-unemployment, booming economy and safe borders under the pre-pandemic Trump istration that Americans fondly.

-Lord

Her selection process was faulty

raumdeuter:
What does Kamala Harrris add to Joe Biden that he does not have before?

This was my post over 4yrs ago questioning what exactly Kamala adds to Bidens ticket. So you can see why she was inconsequential. The only thing she added was her gender and color. There were many Black women who would have done wayyyy better. Susan Rice or Stacy Abrams would have been better

Even many in the Democratic party were not convinced, That was why when Biden was asked to step down, some top Democrats were suggesting throwing the race open because they had little faith in her. The fear of a party civil war and optics of dropping a black woman was why they stuck to her

raumdeuter:

Her selection process was faulty

This was my post over 4yrs ago questioning what exactly Kamala adds to Bidens ticket. So you can see why she was inconsequential. The only thing she added was her gender and color. There were many Black women who would have done wayyyy better. Susan Rice or Stacy Abrams would have been better

Even many in the Democratic party were not convinced, That was why when Biden was asked to step down, some top Democrats were suggesting throwing the race open because they had little faith in her. The fear of a party civil war and optics of dropping a black woman was why they stuck to her

Biden picked her for the same reason Obama picked him and Harris picked Walz.
He didn't want a VP who would overshadow him.

Susan Rice was an easy pick and he went with this DEI merchant who punted every tough question on primetime TV.
Susan Rice will articulate her vision and offer granular details in a debate. She will hold press conferences and square off with hostile scribes. She will not be an inconsequential VP.

-Lord

SpaceX:
covid did a lot of damage, you can't put all the blame on him!
most of the jobs were bounce back jobs!
we are witnessing record high border crossings that have never been seen!
Wrong, you are lying! People are no longer report cases of crime that does mean it not happening!
Where is she going to get the moolah after blowing cash on Ukraine and Israel, this is the same tactics Joe Biden use to secure votes the last time with students loan and it ended up being a scam same with the above opportunity economy!

1st you claimed you didn't hear anything from her, now it's about disagreeing with her policies... I have no problem with you disagreeing with her policies but don't claim she didn't mention any policy. Please stay in one place and stop confusing the thunder.

She will get the money from raising tax on the rich. You can disagree with that, it's same way I disagree with Trump's plan to give more tax cut for the rich and increasing tariffs claiming China will pay.

I import many things from China, if the government increases tariffs on those things, I simply the extra cost to my customers too, cos China certainly will not pay me nada. But you Trumpists believe him same way you believed him when he claimed Mexico will pay for building bother wall.

I like Susan Rice don't get me wrong, but how many elections has she won compare to Harris? And please don't tell me she sucked dicks to win election... Sucking dicks doesn't do campaign and after winning wouldn't have given her all those achievements she has as a DA and AG. Her achievements pushed her to the Senate and she got more on National limelights when she dealt with those Trump's appointies at the Senate.

I like the way you guys are underestimating her. Na so she go dey laugh like a small girl, but still crushing all those who dare her. Let Trump come for the 2nd debate and receive additional flogging.

Interesting Data. Chart of Google searches for "Voter Registration" during the debate. Notice the times when it increased.

happney65:
The Coward,Thug and Bully is now running away from more Debates.

Truly,The Dems did the very right thing by asking Biden to drop the Baton for a younger Person.

Honestly, this was a good campaign decision. Kamala was going to crush him in the next debate. She would have gotten better, been less nervous and learned from her flaws here. Probably would have goaded him more as it was very effective. Trump had 0 chance of winning the next debate. Has he ever won a debate? There was no upside and he's not an honorable man to do it for Democracy sake.

That being said, it is an absolutely gutless cowardly thing to do. Should be disqualifying. Probably the first candidate in decades that would have refused to do the 3 debates. The Bully got Bullied, took his ball and cried all the way home.
But this is Trump, he may change again.

SpaceX:
hope you know she snubbed a fox news debate and again this is Trump's third debate. It disingenuous for you to say he is running from a debate!

It would have been Trump's third debate. He has only done 2. Most non incumbents do 3 and many more in the primaries. He skipped the primaries as well, like the coward he is.
There was no Trump debate. No one agreed to it. Kamala was not giving Fox a debate after they paid 750 Million for trying to help Trump commit a coup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsbIUEy3Yc

Trump Campaign vs. Trump

Trump advisers have a theory for who’s letting the campaign down: It’s the candidate.

Axios reports that they’re saying he lost the debate because of deep-seated personality traits. They say he “falls for fake news,” listens too much to sycophants, and is too old to change.

What they’re saying to reporters is very plausible. That they’re saying it is pretty dishonorable.

P.S. Some Trump ers have theorized that many disappointments from his first term happened because he had too many disloyal aides, but now he knows how to weed them out. Stories like this one don’t bolster that theory.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-trump-campaign-vs-trump/

Trump announced no tax on overtime

I expect Kamala to announce same too

Bernie Sanders said it

NBC News host Kristen Welker asked: "She has previously ed Medicare for All, now she does not. She's previously ed a ban on fracking, now she does not. These, Senator, are ideas that you have campaigned on. Do you think that she is abandoning her progressive ideals?"

Sanders: "No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals. I think she is trying to be pragmatic and do what she thinks is right in order to win the election."

IjeBos:


And that was her goal. And because she was debating Trump who doesn't have ANY policies, I don't really care.
There is too much of a double standard with Trump.
What policies did he put out during that debate

Tell me what he said he would do about:
Health Care
Inflation
Middle East
Ukraine Russia

This isn't about what Trump. I could equally say that was his goal.

kkins25:


This isn't about what Trump. I could equally say that was his goal.

So why do your standards seem to apply to only Kamala? Isn't that the double standard I was talking about?
I can understand if you took the position, you don't care if either has policies.
Or if you took the position you care if both don't have policies.
But, the approach of I care about Kamala's policies but not Trumps' is inconsistent.

So, if that was his goal. Do you think he succeeded?

raumdeuter:
Bernie Sanders said it

NBC News host Kristen Welker asked: "She has previously ed Medicare for All, now she does not. She's previously ed a ban on fracking, now she does not. These, Senator, are ideas that you have campaigned on. Do you think that she is abandoning her progressive ideals?"

Sanders: "No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals. I think she is trying to be pragmatic and do what she thinks is right in order to win the election."

Copy pasted .

Nine areas in which Harris has shifted views or her current position is unknown:

Banning plastic straws for environmental concerns. (She's no longer for it, as Axios reported Thursday.)
A mandate for automakers to only make electric and hydrogen vehicles by 2035. (The Harris campaign won't say whether she's still for it.)
Banning fracking because of concerns over global warming and potential water contamination. (No longer favors a ban.)
A mandatory buyback program for assault weapons as part of her gun safety agenda. (She's dropped this idea.)
Decriminalizing crossing the border from a criminal offense to a civil one. (No longer s.)
Reparations for slavery, which many progressives argued for during the 2020 primary. (Position unclear.)
Building a wall on the Southwest border, a defining Trump promise that many Democrats have fought. (Accepted it as part of the bipartisan border package that Republicans killed.)
A federal jobs guarantee that was part of her Green New Deal proposal. (No longer for it.)
Medicare for All, which Harris embraced in her first year as senator. (She's backed off this.)

raumdeuter:
Bernie Sanders said it

NBC News host Kristen Welker asked: "She has previously ed Medicare for All, now she does not. She's previously ed a ban on fracking, now she does not. These, Senator, are ideas that you have campaigned on. Do you think that she is abandoning her progressive ideals?"

Sanders: "No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals. I think she is trying to be pragmatic and do what she thinks is right in order to win the election."

And? What do you think that says?
She is going to be president. She has to find a pragmatic way to approach a divided country. So, she will go with being pragmatic instead of what she really wants. Obama did the same with Obamacare. That's what governing is.

IjeBos:


And? What do you think that says?
She is going to be president. She has to find a pragmatic way to approach a divided country. So, she will go with being pragmatic instead of what she really wants. Obama did the same with Obamacare. That's what governing is.

What is says is that she will say anything to get elected which is different from what she believes while masking her core beliefs as the most left leaning candidate that has ever contested for president

Bernie knows she has not changed she's just pretending to get elected, once in office she will push her radical ideas

raumdeuter:


What is says is that she will say anything to get elected which is different from what she believes while masking her core beliefs as the most left leaning candidate that has ever contested for president

Bernie knows she has not changed she's just pretending to get elected, once in office she will push her radical ideas

That is not what Bernie said. That is what you misread from what he said.

IjeBos:


And? What do you think that says?
She is going to be president. She has to find a pragmatic way to approach a divided country. So, she will go with being pragmatic instead of what she really wants. Obama did the same with Obamacare. That's what governing is.

harvard

he is saying she is lying dumbo

Trump proposes no tax on overtime.
That would inspire esp blue collar workers to put in extra effort abd result in overall more disposable income.
No taxes on tips also benefits a lot of workers take home pay.

Without setting minimum hourly wage , Trump common sense proposals benefits millions of workers without increasing any employers costs.

Our resident idiot says Trump has no plans.

bemeruca:


harvard

he is saying she is lying dumbo

She can do no wrong. Harvard brains .
We would vote for Trump , we don't think of him as perfect, we point out his flaws.
Yet they call us cultists ,they can't see how trapped they are by democrats to the point of absurdity.

Fani Willis Georgia election cases.. 3 more charges dropped by Judge McFee yesterday, rules she does not have authority to charge federal crimes.

Georgia Senate has also subpoenad her to testify about the indictments, they are investigating election interference. Today is the D-Day.
She obviously colluded with DOJ and the J6 sham committee to jail Trump. She had filed an injunction, ,yesterday 3 judges recused themselves meaning she has to appear . If she doesn't then a contempt case is opened against her..More troubles Fani, you are not fit to play in those big leagues. I dropped a name here some days ago, Mary McCord. If Fani testifies that name will come up prominently.

She has a JD..Why does she make such stupid blunders? Her boyfriend, married then, is a divorce lawyer, she hired him to take down a billionaire at 3 times his normal rates. He railroads so many and stacks up charges ensuring the cases will go on for many years while he is billing $250 an hour.
Fani testified they had parted. Last week Fani's 20 year old daughter gets arrested over a traffic violation. Fani Willis shows up pronto at the scene accompanied by? You guessed right. Nathan Wade of all other people! Caught on police bodycam. This would have gone under the radar, she must hate bodycams by now.

As I have always said good always prevails in the end. Fani is in trouble, I doubt she sleeps soundly . She was chasing glory.

IjeBos:
Trump Campaign vs. Trump

He lies to himself!

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/12/trump-debate-harris-bait

basilico:
Fani Willis Georgia election cases.. 3 more charges dropped by Judge McFee yesterday, rules she does not have authority to charge federal crimes.

Georgia Senate has also subpoenad her to testify about the indictments, they are investigating election interference. Today is the D-Day.
She obviously colluded with DOJ and the J6 sham committee to jail Trump. She had filed an injunction, ,yesterday 3 judges recused themselves meaning she has to appear . If she doesn't then a contempt case is opened against her..More troubles Fani, you are not fit to play in those big leagues. I dropped a name here some days ago, Mary McCord If Fani testifies that name will come up prominently.

She has a JD..Why does she make such stupid blunders? Her boyfriend, married then, is a divorce lawyer, she hired him to take down a billionaire at 3 times his normal rates. He railroads so many and stacks up charges ensuring the cases will go on for many years while he is billing $250 an hour.
Fani testified they had parted. Last week Fani's 20 year old daughter gets arrested over a traffic violation. Fani Willis shows up pronto at the scene. With Nathan Wade of all other people! Caught by bodycam. This would have gone under the radar, she must hate bodycams by now.

As I have always said good always prevails in the end. Fani is in trouble, I doubt she sleeps soundly . She was chasing glory.

She is a train wreck

budaatum:

He lies to himself!

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/12/trump-debate-harris-bait

axios is a far left website. You should always take everything from it with a pinch of salt.
It's main purpose nowadays seems to help liberals enjoy the joys of Kamala , a black Indian American bicycle rider who gave out free rides early in her career finally be the one to break the topmost glass ceiling in history.

The rapist felon trump had a serious senile dementia moment in Arizona hours ago.
But you won't see it here and basilico loco the deranged maga cultist won't even get to see it.

He calls Tim Walz the current Vice President Lmao
Then says Pennsylvania should go out to vote while he is Arizona.
And some other deranged shit and lies.

basilico loco, let me ask you one question! Do you ever, i mean ever, watch your rapist overlord's rallies? Like do you ever watch every minute of it? I BET YOU DON'T FOO.

The rapist and racist traitor is done.

I've given up trying to show maga cultists that the rapist needs to be committed to an elderly home.

I hope they find out themselves that their racist overlord is already cooked.

basilico:


Yet they call us cultists ,they can't see how trapped they are by democrats to the point of absurdity.

brooo, you are a maga cultist, you ain't even republican leaning, just a deranged conspiracy theorist with a fried brain.

VP Harris had two "sold-out" rallies in North Carolina, but the russian friendly s on nairaland won't let people see it.
They'll keep nigerians deluded thinking the rapist trump has gas meanwhile in reality and on the ground, he is getting trounced.

At the end what matters is the real american voter in America and not what one brain dead maga cultist like basilico loco or fake pastor olaadegbu spreads on nairaland.

cc: Mynd44

News you won't see on nairaland because russian friendly mods will be pissed. Reminds them of Jan 6th.

The Department of Homeland Security has just designated the Jan. 6 counting and certification of electoral votes as a national special security event — affording it a level of security similar to events like the State of the Union and the Super Bowl.
@MSNBC

Hey basilico loco, see the change your fellow maga cultists wrought on us. I guess you'll be glad for it to repeat itself again, right?

IjeBos:


Honestly, this was a good campaign decision. Kamala was going to crush him in the next debate. She would have gotten better, been less nervous and learned from her flaws here. Probably would have goaded him more as it was very effective. Trump had 0 chance of winning the next debate. Has he ever won a debate? There was no upside and he's not an honorable man to do it for Democracy sake.

That being said, it is an absolutely gutless cowardly thing to do. Should be disqualifying. Probably the first candidate in decades that would have refused to do the 3 debates. The Bully got Bullied, took his ball and cried all the way home.
But this is Trump, he may change again.

Of course, He can never ever change

Trump: “Residents are reporting the migrants are walking off with the town's geese. They've taken the geese. You know where the geese are? In the park, in the lake. And even walking off with their pets. My dog's been taken! My dog's gone! These people are the worst”

happney65:
Trump: “Residents are reporting the migrants are walking off with the town's geese. They've taken the geese. You know where the geese are? In the park, in the lake. And even walking off with their pets. My dog's been taken! My dog's gone! These people are the worst”

I've beaten tha dog already. The Haitians are voodoo people . They offer animal sacrifices