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elyte89:



I know d reason…it is because both coaches soak up knowledge from la masia and from guardiola too 😃😃😃

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Kog45:
Win or lose should be your priority in senior team football though seeing a team play in a very organized way gives joy …sincerely am not impressed with our styles during Afcon and only impressed with Cameroon match.The team need to do more in the midfield.

I believe the pursuit of dominance will lead to winning more in the long run than chasing short wins. So defending to win a cup will not result in more wins than a team working toward dominance. I also see developing a team towards playing possessively-offensively as the best way towards dominance.

Let me repost this here. An article I shared in 2016. This will show you how much I believe in the Spanish football development system.

TheGoodJoe:

The Success Of Spain: A Lesson For Every Football Nation

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The seniors showed how to do it! And now the juniors showed that even they can do it. Next what? Even the Spanish U5 might win their respective football tournament in the very same way. It’s that time to say that Brazil is no more the most feared football country in the world. It’s time for Spain to take the throne. The victory of Spain U-21 in the European championships recently has further substantiated the claim of the kings of world football. But how has Spain managed this unprecedented success, this unbelievable consistency that every country wants to emulate the Spanish success model?

The Process of Winning

Rome was not built in a day nor was Spain’s WC triumph or its major episodes of glory. It had been planned meticulously and every single detail was given great attention. Spain is a hub of youth academies where every club has a superb academy structure. Spain is not a cash rich country like England where major clubs would spend cash to obtain star players. Most of the clubs operate with mostly Spanish players and less foreign players and this helps the clubs and the national team greatly. There are clubs like Athletic Bilbao who have been solely dependent on their academy players to keep up themselves competitive enough with the big players. The process of creating a unified youth set up for all the clubs started in 1995-96. The clubs in association with the RFEF (REAL FEDERACIÓN ESPAÑOLA DE FÚTBOL) decided that they would strive with a common aim of developing players from their own country rather than rely on foreigners. And thus, they started the training program for new coaches and churning out players who were technically sound.

The La liga president Jose Luis Astiazaran in an interview with the Telegraph mentioned how the Liga clubs went about their way to help the cause of the national team and help themselves financially as well as competitively.

“We started around 10 years ago to make a big effort investing in training camps. The fidelity strategy works in two ways. It provides coaching and the opportunity to play for clubs. The other aspect is to have teachers who help the young players prepare for life outside of football. This is important for the parents.

The most important thing is to be patient. If you are making good progress with home players, the ers will understand if it is not a good year because next year they will have, say, three home-grown players. In six years, it might be 11 home-grown players. This is the future because they share your philosophy.”

Firstly, Spain started with a vision, a vision to create a distinct identity for them in the football world and decided to start with grass root level. They observed that their players were not physically imposing as such and hence devised their plans and structure to suit the personality of their players. They called upon the clubs which were responsible for scouting talent and communicated to them all their plans to ensure that the national federation and the clubs were united in producing a WC winning side.



The System at Grass-Root Level

For example, Real Madrid has a youth system consisting of 13 levels to reach the senior side. And the beauty is that all these youth teams function in the same way as the senior club side and also play in the same kind of leagues designed for their specific ages. So, as the players move up the order they begin to gain the necessary exposure playing in competitive leagues rather than some meaningless reserve games that hold no importance. Players performing well in these youth leagues are then picked up by the regional football federations for representation.

RFEF has 19 regional football federations and all these federations work in sync with the national and the club federations. All the players’ information is ed from the club level to the regional level and then to the national level in a detailed manner. If any player manages to impress at club level, he is called to play for his regional federation and if he further impresses, he then progresses to play at the national level. Spain churns out 100’s of footballers every year and we can imagine the kind of effort, the filtering and the competition these kids face to make it to the national youth side.

The RFEF has divided its youth set up into two groups- Formation group and performing group. The U15, U16, U17 and U18 teams come under the formation group and U19, U20 and U21 come under the Performing groups. Each age group has a dedicated coach and an assistant and if the dedicated coach decides to move on, the assistant takes up his job with the coach in the next age group appointed as his assistant. This ensures the continuity of progress. And when the player has good success at U21 level, he is then graduated to the National A squad, which is the stepping stone to a place in the Spanish National team.

Communication between Coaches of all Levels

The most important tool in this Spanish youth set up is the communication between different coaches. All youth coaches interact regularly with the club youth coaches finding new talent and then making sure that their talents are utilized to the optimum. Also, the biggest advantage is that these coaches follow the same pattern and coach in the same way laying emphasis on ball retention, ball control, use of ball in tight spaces, setting the pace of the game and the steps to take when they lose possession of the ball. Team values, discipline and compromise for the greater good of the team are highly valued and every player is made sure that he follows the same path. And this is quite evident in the senior team today.

The players are also taught to improvise and are pushed to think when they play. the Thiago – Canales FK that drew a record number of views on Youtube and also the Thiago Alcantara free kick in the recent U21 finals?! The players are taught to make sure of the position of their team mates and their opposition on the pitch and then make their moves and utilize the spaces on the field. The players are asked not to depend on some luck but to create their own chance. It’s no exaggeration that all the Spanish teams from the youth level to the national team play the same brand of football so that if they needed to replace anyone in the senior squad, the federation would always have multiple options because they all play in the same way and their coaches have been coaching the same way. For example, a Cesc Fabregas can play in the role of Iniesta or Xavi and a Fernando Torres can replace David Villa to win the Euro and a Silva can replace Pedro to provide that extra creativity.

The philosophy have paid dividends as nearly 80% of the players playing in the La Liga are eligible to play for the Spanish national team unlike only 40% in the English premier league. Since 1998 until their WC victory, Spanish youth teams from under-16 to under-21 level have won 19 UEFA and FIFA championships and have given players such as Fernando Torres, Andres Iniesta and Sergio Ramos who have now become the spine of the current senior squad. Their style of play has only developed with more playing time and now the results are for everyone to see. The progress has been spectacular.

Huge Number of “Educated” Coaches

This progress has been possible not only by focusing on developing more Spanish players and by making them more technically sound but also making sure that there are sufficient number of coaches to educate and instill the correct footballing philosophy. According to UEFA, Spain had almost 15,000 UEFA A and Pro Licence coaches in 2008 – more than double the number of any other European nation. And that is despite it taking 750 study hours to acquire a Pro Licence in Spain, compared with just 245 in England; follows with 6500 and England with only 1000.

Since then, Spain have clinched the EURO and the FIFA WC and you can only imagine the number to grow. These coaches are trained to make sure that all the players play the same way and hold a common football philosophy so that when these players come together to play for the national team they can be on the same page and with the same ideas. A school level coach in Spain has the same qualification as the top division coach. The coaches undergo special training programs on national level where they reach a level so that they could be eligible to go to any country and coach any team.

For years now, every nation had a distinct style of play attached to it. The RFEF has made sure that their coaches promote exactly the same style of football – the highly technical, possession-based game. Brazilians were considered the magicians while the Italians were considered to the masters at the art of Defense. Now all this effort and success has finally managed to give Spain a distinct identity in the world of football.

The Spanish federation technical director, the former Spain and Real Madrid legend, Fernando Hierro could not have put it in a better way:

“We have moved on from the time when nobody knew what the characteristics of Spanish football were. Before, we all knew about Italian football, English football, German, Argentine, and Brazilian. Now, it’s good to say that Spanish football is here.”

The technical review report by UEFA for EURO 2008 also hailed the importance of the structures put in place by the Spanish federation by noting,

“The important thing, however, is not a list of names and tournaments but rather what they have signified. During two decades of Angel María Villar’s presidency of the national association, Spain has had a stable coaching family – and, in consequence, a stable philosophy. Although Spain’s collection of gold medals is impressive, the emphasis has always been on development, experience and education rather than winning. The names have changed year by year, but the footballing style has remained unchanged. The ball is primordial; play is based on technique; attacking moves are rich in short-ing combinations. For years, Spanish youth football has carried the same, recognizable hallmark. And, after years of watering the roots; the plant has matured and blossomed. “

Luis Aragones deserved a special mention in this regard as he ensured that the Spanish team with such flair overcome their mental barriers and not bottle up in crucial situations as he worked on instilling a sense of calm at all times and this is evident in the Spanish play today. Even in the U21 Euro championship match against Belarus, Spain was a goal down in the 89th minute but not even once, Spain lost the plot or hurried for the goal but managed to finish with three goals.

And finally when Iker Casillas lifted the FIFA World Cup in 2010, it was a dream that had been waiting to happen. It did not happen just like that. It took a grand vision and fifteen years of meticulous planning, dedication and sacrifices to make that dream a reality. But the real challenge is to sustain that success and Spain looks all set to sustain it for years to come thanks to its flawless youth set up and philosophy.
http://www.thehardtackle.com/2011/the-success-of-spain-a-lesson-for-every-football-nation/

https://nairaland.macsoftware.info/3019225/success-spain-lesson-every-football

lbrichman2:


At this point Chief, its just pure hate and jealousy
It's becoming more and more difficult for them to hide..

Na today una know. Sey I no talk am before?

Forget those people

Kog45:
Win or lose should be your priority in senior team football though seeing a team play in a very organized way gives joy …sincerely am not impressed with our styles during Afcon and only impressed with Cameroon match.The team need to do more in the midfield.

Win or what, To him, Just play sexy Ashawo football, with smooth penetration through the sides and Middle, with an Organism one touch that's attractive that matter

Finito

The technical review report by UEFA for EURO 2008 also hailed the importance of the structures put in place by the Spanish federation by noting,

“The important thing, however, is not a list of names and tournaments but rather what they have signified. During two decades of Angel María Villar’s presidency of the national association, Spain has had a stable coaching family – and, in consequence, a stable philosophy. Although Spain’s collection of gold medals is impressive, the emphasis has always been on development, experience and education rather than winning. The names have changed year by year, but the footballing style has remained unchanged. The ball is primordial; play is based on technique; attacking moves are rich in short-ing combinations. For years, Spanish youth football has carried the same, recognizable hallmark. And, after years of watering the roots; the plant has matured and blossomed. “

Luis Aragones deserved a special mention in this regard as he ensured that the Spanish team with such flair overcome their mental barriers and not bottle up in crucial situations as he worked on instilling a sense of calm at all times and this is evident in the Spanish play today. Even in the U21 Euro championship match against Belarus, Spain was a goal down in the 89th minute but not even once, Spain lost the plot or hurried for the goal but managed to finish with three goals.

And finally when Iker Casillas lifted the FIFA World Cup in 2010, it was a dream that had been waiting to happen. It did not happen just like that. It took a grand vision and fifteen years of meticulous planning, dedication and sacrifices to make that dream a reality. But the real challenge is to sustain that success and Spain looks all set to sustain it for years to come thanks to its flawless youth set up and philosophy.
http://www.thehardtackle.com/2011/the-success-of-spain-a-lesson-for-every-football-nation/

An important excerpt of the article.

“The important thing, however, is not a list of names and tournaments but rather what they have signified. During two decades of Angel María Villar’s presidency of the national association, Spain has had a stable coaching family – and, in consequence, a stable philosophy. Although Spain’s collection of gold medals is impressive, the emphasis has always been on development, experience and education rather than winning. The names have changed year by year, but the footballing style has remained unchanged. The ball is primordial; play is based on technique; attacking moves are rich in short-ing combinations. For years, Spanish youth football has carried the same, recognizable hallmark. And, after years of watering the roots; the plant has matured and blossomed. “

I love the Spanish philosophy because it is so intuned with my orientation of the game. Long term approach will lead to success in the long run.

Kog45:
Beyond Limit boys arrives

Which tournament is that?

TheGoodJoe:

An important excerpt of the article.

Unless you're talking about management and off field aspects. Using 15 years to build dominance in international football is crazy. It is a plan that is insane and unachievable. Let's even set aside age issue, what of the constant and frequent evolvement of football? By the time you use 15 years to perfect your tikitaka football, teams you're hoping to dominate would have evolved with up-to-date tactic.

Let me also add that your team will be found out. It will be so easy to prepare against your team because oppositions already figure out what to expect.

Guess it’s bye bye 👋

Princezibk:
Some peeps are born that way ,,, Just naturally evil minded …

I have someone like him at my work place ,,, he has been sacked in many organizations due to that attitude, though he got talent so that’s working for him but in a short period, he’ll become an irritant that for the first time one will wish his fellow man evil or death …

This nuisance man at my work place castigated the eagles 🦅 sothe, he’ll be mocking we eagles ers. He’ll come before every match and say today you guys go cry 😭,,, When we got to finals you won’t believe this man posted eagles and was saying “ he believes in them from day one “ jubilating all over his media space … My colleagues had to call me to ask if this man his mentally stable ? 🤣🤣

When we lost the final , he came back again and said you see I told you’ll to thread carefully,, that can we see they disappointed as usual ! We had to report him to the director and we dragged him so much that he hated himself. Imagine a 43 yrs old man 👴

You work with blueelf?

It's official JP no longer SE coach

https://x.com/JosePeseiro/status/1763545791258374170?s=20

mostob:
Unless you're talking about management and off field aspects. Using 15 years to build dominance in international football is crazy. It is a plan that is insane and unachievable. Let's even set aside age issue, what of the constant and frequent evolvement of football? By the time you use 15 years to perfect your tikitaka football, teams you're hoping to dominate would have evolved with up-to-date tactic.

Let me also add that your team will be found out. It will be so easy to prepare against your team because oppositions already figure out what to expect.

First of all, there is nothing like found out because there is a term called MASTERY. As long as you keep mastering your philosophy, you will stay ahead and win more. It is also easier to dominate in the long run.

Than spending your days trying to adapt with up-to-date tactics.

Get a sound philosophy and keep building on it. That is the only way to long term success. Any other thing is less.

Perfecting possessive play means improving in all aspects. Technique, positioning, movement, ing etc.

Than looking for short wins.

TheGoodJoe:


First of all, there is nothing like found out because there is a term called MASTERY. As long as you keep mastering your philosophy, you will stay ahead and win more. It is also easier to dominate in the long run.

Than spending your days trying to adapt with up-to-date tactics.

Get a sound philosophy and keep building on it. That is the only way to long term success. Any other thing is less.

Perfecting possessive play means improving in all aspects. Technique, positioning, movement, ing etc.

Than looking for short wins.

while trying to perfect whatever tactics you must show workings sha, you can’t refuse to qualify for Afcon then you tell us to be patient because you are building something, such a coach should be sacked very quick

MetalJigsaw:
Which tournament is that?

Viareggio cup for under 18.This year tournament saw eventual winner Beyond Limits vs Nigeria arch rival Ojodu boys in the semi final…..Inter Milan prodigy Ebenezer Akinsanmiro of Beyond Limit was discovered through Viareggio cup last year in Italy

jihday:
Guess it’s bye bye 👋

Not a surprise, win or lose he was bound to go. We await that magical coach we, as a people think, is out there

chrisooblog:
It's official JP no longer SE coach

https://x.com/JosePeseiro/status/1763545791258374170?s=20

guess we are left with salisu for the next international.

Goke7:


Not a surprise, win or lose he was bound to go. We await that magical coach we, as a people think, is out there

That is what we have been praying for no body gave him a chance.

Asking fans to trust and be patient with a process not yielding results is unrealistic.

Besides football evolves no one style guarantees you success over a long period of time. Countries that have won trophies did so with various formations and styles over a period of time.

jihday:
while trying to perfect whatever tactics you must show workings sha, you can’t refuse to qualify for Afcon then you tell us to be patient because you are building something, such a coach should be sacked very quick

Goke7:


Not a surprise, win or lose he was bound to go. We await that magical coach we, as a people think, is out there

Wailing and gnashing of teeth will be many

Won't lie I'm not shedding tears at JP's seeming departure. Apart from the slight disruption it will cause in of stability and continuity
we can still get it right if the right coach for the team is selected. I think Finidi should be trusted considering how long he's been involved in the immediate past setup.

Abeg no Salisu nonsense!

jieta:
That is what we have been praying for no body gave him a chance.

Breaking news
Peseiro finally takes a bow. Time for a new dawn without iwobi and his likes. Who do you want as replacement

chrisooblog:
Won't lie I'm not shedding tears at JP's seeming departure. Apart from the slight disruption it will cause in of stability and continuity
we can still get it right if the right coach for the team is selected. I think Finidi should be trusted considering how long he's been involved in the immediate past setup.

Abeg no Salisu nonsense!

if I hear finidi for ya mouth again, I will smash your jaw

We want siasia

jihday:
while trying to perfect whatever tactics you must show workings sha, you can’t refuse to qualify for Afcon then you tell us to be patient because you are building something, such a coach should be sacked very quick

The target is not refusing to qualify but judging on a carefully planned playing target. If you target improvement in scouting players, developing players and playing style. Then carefully monitor the playing progress, even if you don't qualify, in a few years, you will be doing better than just qualifying. Qualifying and going to tournaments can never be compared to going to a tournament and making a big impact.

maidaboi:
Osimhen has been scoring 10+ league goals for the 6 seasons

It’s nothing new osimehn is world class an elite so that’s to be expected

MetalJigsaw:
Na today una know. Sey I no talk am before?

Forget those people

Yeah you did actually

Amedino99:
guess we are left with salisu for the next international.

I prefer Salisu to Peseiro. Salisu selected the squad that thrashed Sao tome and Principe 10 unreplied goals. That squad had more balance than the squad Peseiro selected.

Cant have him till August

Katcall:
We want siasia

It's George Finidi's time!

Thank you JP! You made us believe again!

Goodluck in your future endeavors!

Don't know why we are perturbed about JPES contract not being renewed.
I have said it long before now that a new indigenous coach will be appointed for the Super Eagles.

It's definitely not Samson Siasia as his ban still extends till August. It won't be Austin Eguaveon or Salisu Yusuf either.

Tom Samfiet is with the Philippines.

It will be between the duo of Emmanuel Amuneke or Finidi George.

It's also possible that both of them will be employed as coaches but for now,we don't know who will be the Head Coach.

Pitso is also a strong contender as he has a lot of irers in the glass house.

Anything can happen though.

Goodbye JPes..
You fought well..
One thing is sure, he enhanced his CV during the AFCON
A 2nd placed finish will definitely attract offers
All the best JPes
You fought valiantly
Not easy working with the NFF who have a reputation for owing salaries and creating difficult working conditions..

All the best in your future endeavors
Weldone JPes
Go make some money!

As much as we would love you to stay for stability sake, and for some lessons you learned that you might potentially apply, we understand that you deserve better, especially remunerations and better working conditions

Gives a nostalgic feeling
Adios JPes!